WWI Digest 2745 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Nieuport Tripe questions by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 2) Re: The agony and the ecstasy by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 3) Ebay list by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 4) Re: Scratchbuilt Wings by "Neil Crawford" 5) Re: Lloyd Triplane bomber thing by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 6) Re: Results of a "Thought" Experiment: Dilthey's Cross Fields by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 7) Diego is down by "Bob Pearson" 8) WWI Books 4 sale by BStett3770@aol.com 9) Re: Nieuport Tripe questions by mdf 10) Re: Nieuport Triplane, was UK Nats. by Todd Hayes 11) RE: Scratchbuilt Wings by Shane Weier 12) Re: Decal help by "Tom Solinski" 13) RE: Scratchbuilt Wings by "Lance Krieg" 14) Re: The agony and the ecstasy by "DAVID BURKE" 15) More Camel News by "DAVID BURKE" 16) Re: Scratchbuilt Wings by Peter Leonard 17) Re: UK Nats by Peter Leonard 18) Re: List members Ebay ID's - posted by Zulis@aol.com 19) Re: The agony and the ecstasy by Todd Hayes 20) vac quality by "Michael Kendix" 21) Re: Scratchbuilt Wings by smperry@mindspring.com 22) Re: vac quality by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 23) Re: vac quality by "Matt Bittner" 24) Re: vac quality by BStett3770@aol.com 25) Re: The agony and the ecstasy by "David Calhoun" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:59:20 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Nieuport Tripe questions Message-ID: I missed the beginning of this thread but the lovely drawings of this plane have caught my fancy. I have a 32nd scale Ni-17 kicking around that I want to do something different with, having just done one in Russian colours. Would this make an appropriate conversion to the triplane?/ Can I just scratch up a third wing, and the necessary struts and rigging or is there a lot more to it than that? Any thoughts would be appreciated. And if this has been covered in earlier posts someone tell me to shut up and check the archives later. TIA MVJ (Itching to convert something.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:05:20 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The agony and the ecstasy Message-ID: Snip I do not have the latest address >for >> Koster, it's probably in the latest FSM. >> Dave Calhoun > > >---jumping in before Bittner-- > > HAVE YOU CHECKED THE SITE? > >:-) > > > >DB Snip Smack - hand slapping forehead to Homer Simpson impression. Actually DB I did check the site. . .just not the right place. Oh well, the list came to the rescue anyway. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:50:25 -0500 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'WWI Modeling Digest'" Subject: Ebay list Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A249078012ABA2C@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> I've still got a copy from a few months back. I can email it to anyone who wants it, just contact me off-list. Ken Zelnick kzelnic@entergy.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:11:29 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: Re: Scratchbuilt Wings Message-ID: <20001024191705.DZMV6148.fep01-svc.swip.net@default> Lance asked: "...Anyone else have my problems with the leading edge? Anyone use heat to help make this fold?..." I used this on my first scratchbuild, a 1/50(!) scale Ö1 Tummelisa swedish trainer, and it worked great. I think it was because I followed Harry Woodmans instuctions to the inch. I used it again later on the u/c crossbar on my Spad and it split, that sort of thing is just too small. I don't think it will work well in 1/72, its difficult to get the wood centre thin enough, unless its a bomber of course, and the creasing method doesn't seem to work so well on thinner leading edges. I agree with Shane that its fun to hear all the various methods people use. It seems that you can get a good result from widely different methods. /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:17:40 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lloyd Triplane bomber thing Message-ID: IIRC there are a couple of the Meikraft 40.15 kit on a shelf in Ft Worth. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:31:03 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Results of a "Thought" Experiment: Dilthey's Cross Fields Message-ID: Howdy! I've given this matter a bit of thought and here is what I came up with. As you all know I'm pro-green wings. I plan on painting my struts the RLM-02ish shade of gray. I am basing my opinion more on how I would've done it if I were there as opposed to meticulous study of pictures. As I figure it the entire plane would be disassembled. The fuse gets painted, then the wings. At last there's a pile of struts which haven't been painted yet. I figure they'd all be painted at the same time if they were going to be. Since it's clear some of them were gray I'm going to assume they were all gray. I wonder if the plane was painted during a lengthy spell of rainy wheather? The sun came out and Dilthey was all excited to show off his new paint job. No time to paint struts now! The sun's out. I haven't determined what to do with the L/G spreader. Perhaps white. Perhaps green. Stripes? Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:48:55 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Diego is down Message-ID: <200010242001.NAA09561@mail.rapidnet.net> > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3055236535_493619_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Greetings all, I just heard from our Southernmost member and he is even lower than normal right now (hahahaha. . southern. .lower. . get it. .. oh nevermind). ... . He informs me that " Sorry about this, but seems like a Trojan horse has entered my machine. Please do NOT open any attachment from my Email address until new notice. The file is called "sorry_about_yesterday.DOC.pif" and goes to undisclosed recipients. Seems like this file resends when I send a true attachment and not when I send just a plain message. I'm trying to fix this as soon as possible and I'll call you when my disk is sane again. Sorry for any inconvenience..." So to recap. ... don't open any attachments from Diego Fernetti until further notice. . I now return you to the previously scheduled program Bob --MS_Mac_OE_3055236535_493619_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Diego is down Greetings all,

I just heard from our Southernmost member and he is even lower than normal = right now (hahahaha. . southern. .lower. . get it. .. oh nevermind). ... . H= e informs me that

" Sorry about this, but seems like a Trojan horse h= as entered my machine. Please do NOT open any attachment from my Email addre= ss until new notice. The file is called "sorry_about_yesterday.DOC.pif&= quot; and goes to undisclosed recipients. Seems like this file resends when = I send a true attachment and not when I send just a plain message. I'm tryin= g to fix this as soon as possible and I'll call you when my disk is sane aga= in. Sorry for any inconvenience..."

So to recap. ... don't open any attachments from Diego Fernetti until furth= er notice. .

I now return you to the previously scheduled program

Bob

--MS_Mac_OE_3055236535_493619_MIME_Part-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:59:17 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: WWI Books 4 sale Message-ID: <8.bd25b09.27274415@aol.com> Hi Gang Just got another collection of books today. Offering to the group first before I put them out to the general public All in good condition, some have owners name stamped on inside cover. None have dust covers. Tauble Dove of War - by John de Vries - Soft Cover - $45.00 The Fighting Triplanes - by Evan Hadingham Hard Cover - $30.00 Fighter Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War -Harleyford Hard Cover - $40.00 Air Aces of the 1914-1918 War Harleyford - Hard Cover - $40.00 Von Richthofen & the Flying Circus - Harleyford Hard Cover - $40.00 Air Aces of the Austro Hungarian Empire- O'Conner - 1 st edition Hard Cover - $45.00 Cross & Cockade Great Britain Vol.1 & Vol .2 in Binder - $65.00 German Aircraft of the First World War Gray & thetford - Putnum Hard Cover 1970 printing - $45.00 Aviation Awards of Imperial Germany in World War I & the Men Who Earned Them- Neal O'Conner - Vol#1 Kingdom of Bavaria Vol#2 Kingdom of Prussia Vol#3 Kingdom of Saxony Vol#4 Kingdom of Wurttemberg Vol#5 EightThuringian States & duchy of Anhalt Sold as Set like new - $350.00 Post additional on all. Email me of list if interested - bstett3770@aol.com Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:07:43 -0400 From: mdf To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nieuport Tripe questions Message-ID: <39F5EC0F.F12595C1@mars.ark.com> As far as I can tell the fuselage was unmolested, with the exception of the lewis (which should actually have been offset...) The ailerons on the top wing would have probably been somewhat near to stock but you will need to canabalize 2 other kits for the wings. If you plan to do that you might want to look at the Berliner-Joyce Nieuport helicopter (which survives btw) for one of the remaining kits. Mark Vaughan-Jackson wrote: > > I missed the beginning of this thread but the lovely drawings of this plane > have caught my fancy. > > I have a 32nd scale Ni-17 kicking around that I want to do something > different with, having just done one in Russian colours. > Would this make an appropriate conversion to the triplane?/ Can I just > scratch up a third wing, and the necessary struts and rigging or is there a > lot more to it than that? > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > And if this has been covered in earlier posts someone tell me to shut up > and check the archives later. > > TIA > MVJ > (Itching to convert something.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nieuport Triplane, was UK Nats. Message-ID: <20001024191044.68170.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone considered doing the tripe that's based on the N.11 or 21. All positive wing stagger. TH --- mdf wrote: > The WW1 Aero article has top, side and bottom views > of the 10 fuselage, > 10 wings but only side and top views of the 17 based > triplane with no > wing drawings, plus 1 side view of the 17bis > triplane (misidentified as > a 24bis). The side drawings have the wings drawn as > if it had sweepback > (which it didn't) and don't add much to the Stair > drawings. Karlstrom > also did drawings, and I have drawings from a 1936 > Popular Aviation > magazine (posted temporarily @ > http://members.home.net/nieuport/Drawings/Nieuport_17_triplane.jpg > ). > The fuselage is the same as for the 17 which I have > drawings on my site > for (use the German ones - not the British). The > quality of the drawings > in the FMP book vary widely, depending on what they > had as a source but > I haven't really analized their Nieuport scout > drawings. If it was being > modelled while in British service, a wicker seat > could probably be > argued (but probably unlikely). > > Mike Fletcher > > Len Smith wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > and one resin kit - the RVHP Nieuport Triplane, > French version. > > > > This is the second kit that I have from this > maker, the other being the SVA > > 10 that owes much to the older Pegasus SVA 5. > The triplane, however, is a > > new effort and about a 300% improvement on the > other. Well moulded and > > cast, only one small pinhole at the edge of one > wing, and well engineered. > > The bottom wing includes the floor of the one > piece fuselage, the middle > > wing part of the decking behind the cowl, and the > main inter wing struts are > > cast in one piece making assembly relatively easy. > Altogether a very nice > > kit, but it does raise a few problems, firstly > because it does not match the > > drawing Triplane #2 in the FMP book. Against that > the fuselage in the > > drawing does not match any Nieuport up to 27 of > which I have a drawing, so I > > suspect the drawing may be in error, and I would > like any of the List > > Nieuport experts thoughts on this. Secondly the > kit contains a beautifuly > > moulded seat, but it is of the wicker variety. > Again I have no knowledge of > > a Nieuport using this type of seat, so comments > would be appreciated. > > Lastly the only other reference that I have of > this A/c is Windsock Vol .7 > > No.2 which recommends an article in WW1 Aero > No.112, which I do not have. > > If anyone can let me have a copy of this article I > would be extremely > > grateful. > > > > Regards Len. > > lensmith@clara.net > > http://home.clara.net/lensmith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:16:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Scratchbuilt Wings Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621BB1@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Lance, > Shane, I realized what you meant on re-reading your post - > your tape is merely there to keep the parts aligned to the > wood for the heat application. With the bend accomplished, > you don't need tape to keep the skins in reasonable contact > with the cores before cementing the edges. Oh no! I *always* put double sided tape onto the *wood* core beefore inserting it into the folded plastic envelope. IMHO it's crucial to the the finished wing because it holds the camber. The other tape is removed because I don't want tape outside the wing, just paint :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:17:31 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Decal help Message-ID: <000a01c03dff$d27965e0$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> Also there is an article in this Months Model Airplane News on a product called Vitacal from Vitachrome at http://www.vitachrome.com/vitacalhome.htm Little expensive for the starter kit $25.00 but in our scales we'd have materials for decades. Barry from the above address it looks like Walthers train folks are the only one's carrying it right now, maybe you could get in on this too HTH Tom S ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Decal help > Hi Dale > > TPD has solid white decals sheets, I run it through my Cannon copier plain > paper B&W copier)all the time, never had a problem. > > Keep Modeling > Barry > Rosemont Hobby > www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:34:54 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: Scratchbuilt Wings Message-ID: Shane and Lance, struggling with the common tongue that divides us, reach consensus: "...put double sided tape onto the *wood* core before inserting it into the folded plastic envelope... it's crucial to the finished wing because it holds the camber." J'ai accorde. Back to dihedral, for a moment. When cutting or scoring the wing, especially a wood core wing, how do you re-cement it at the dihedral angle and get a good firm join? What adhesive do you prefer for this? CA? Epoxy? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:36:04 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: The agony and the ecstasy Message-ID: <001f01c03e02$7a26e540$53eb79a5@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Vaughan-Jackson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 1:32 PM Subject: Re: The agony and the ecstasy > Snip > I do not have the latest address > >for > >> Koster, it's probably in the latest FSM. > >> Dave Calhoun > > > > > >---jumping in before Bittner-- > > > > HAVE YOU CHECKED THE SITE? > > > >:-) > > > > > > > >DB > > Snip > > Smack - hand slapping forehead to Homer Simpson impression. > > Actually DB I did check the site. . .just not the right place. > > Oh well, the list came to the rescue anyway. > > MVJ > Good deal Bud, I reccomend Koster most highly for everything that he has done - you guys who are considering a first vac - GO KOSTER!! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:39:43 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: More Camel News Message-ID: <002f01c03e02$ed62b660$53eb79a5@com> Well, The ribs on the wings are getting sanded down. I will be doping Japanese tissue strips for the tapes onto the wings. Possibly over the entire model's fabric surfaces. The model is 1/28 scale, so a fabric effect might look good. Anybody else try this? DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:52:45 +0100 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Scratchbuilt Wings Message-ID: <39F604AC.302170F2@cwcom.net> Lance...."Peter, do you use the tape, or is your scoring sufficient to bring the skin to shape? If you prefer a scoring approach to ribs, as opposed to embossment, why skin at all?...." I prefer to skin a wing even though I know that a simple scored lump of plastic is probably closer to scale. Modelers perfidy ;) And I do use tape. Even though I beleive that, with care, it should be possible to cement the skin directly to the core I just don't have the nerve cheers Peter L Lance Krieg wrote: > Thanks, Shane and Peter. > > When I'm embossing .010 card too aggressively, I end up distorting and curling the plastic, stretching parts of it out of shape. This is especially pronounced on a wing with leading edge riblets. > > One can usually still use the resulting skin, but the alignment chore is especially tricky if using a two-piece approach with a separate leading edge. > > I'd prefer to perfect the bending method and avoid this problem. > > Shane, I realized what you meant on re-reading your post - your tape is merely there to keep the parts aligned to the wood for the heat application. With the bend accomplished, you don't need tape to keep the skins in reasonable contact with the cores before cementing the edges. > > Peter, do you use the tape, or is your scoring sufficient to bring the skin to shape? If you prefer a scoring approach to ribs, as opposed to embossment, why skin at all? > > Long post... sorry! > > Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:58:39 +0100 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: UK Nats Message-ID: <39F6060F.96EC0CE4@cwcom.net> David L (no relation) ..."Any sightings of the Aeroclub BE2's?" Yes, and very nice too. I'm resisting at the moment because I have a stack of Falcon Vacforms, but the prognosis is not good and I expect to cave in at an early date cheers Peter L DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: > Any sightings of the Aeroclub BE2's? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:00:32 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List members Ebay ID's - posted Message-ID: <65.b6b2d06.27276080@aol.com> << Probably Dave #13 >> Ah... that Pearson guy knows me too well.... Here is the list. If anyone would like to be added to it for future distribution, please send me a note OFF-LIST and, if there are any additions, I will re-publish the list in about a week's time. achound = panz-meador@vsti.com (Phillip D. Anz-Meador) aew = Allan Wright amadonRI = Gerry McOsker asilid = Eric Fisher Biggles = Brad Gossen braille_scale_modeler = Paul A. Schwartzkopf Brent-o = Brent Theobald cam27 = Cameron Riley cduckworth = Charles Duckworth channard = Mark Shanks davecww1 = Dave Calhoun davekim = Dave Sterner Redfokker = Mike Dicianna eatons@onr.com = Richard Eaton fflt = Jon V. Theisen fighter2 = Shane Weier fokker = David Watts furzball = David Laws graham3 = Graham Nash hagerupk = K. Hagerup ipms4450 = Russ Niles JastaElf = Sharon Henderson jberlien = Jack Berlien kzelnick@tcainternet.com = Kenneth Zelnick lejeune = Fernando Lamas Lothar = John Glaser MACFARB = MacFarb Macsporran = Sandy Adam mbittner = Matt Bittner modelhound = Mike Franklin Moritz1 = David Layton Nieuport29 = Mike Fletcher phoward@abilene.com = P. Howard roguerpj@black-hole.com = Rob Johnson Sopwithdolphin = Ray Boorman Viper32 = Rob Woodbury Vulture2 = Dave Zulis winks147 = Kevin Wenker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:06:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The agony and the ecstasy Message-ID: <20001024200646.76428.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> David, The kit is still available so the decals probably are too. Koster also offers a 1:48 Argus in 17 pcs. I wonder how good it is. TH --- David Calhoun wrote: > Hi Mark, > The best sheet available IMO for the Sopwith > Triplane is from Koster. He > issued it with his vacuform triplane, and it has > markings for a lot of > different aircraft, including the entire Black > flight. I bought mine > separately a couple of years ago, costs about $4.00 > last time I saw. > Hopefully he still has some in stock. I do not have > the latest address for > Koster, it's probably in the latest FSM. > Dave Calhoun > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Kendix" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:13 AM > Subject: Re: The agony and the ecstasy > > > > >From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson > > > > >Who makes good 1:48 scale Sopwith Tripe decals?? > > >I haven't checked the Americal list yet but just > wondered if anyone >had > > >any suggestions. > > > > As you say, Americal-Gryphon is one that I've used > for 1/72nd scale - I > have > > their large and small RFC/RAF roundel sheets. I > assume this is a > > Commonwealth aeroplane since it's PC-10 - some > Sopwith Triplanes were in > > French colours but I recall mainly CDL. > > > > Michael > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own > public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 00:35:29 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: vac quality Message-ID: From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com >Honestly though Bob's vacs are the best no matter the subject or >scale. >From my time spent at model contests I find more SS vacs built than >any >other brand. That ought to tell you something. I have never attempted Sierra Scale vacuform or even seen one. Are they as good as Roseplane's vacs? I've built a couple of those and they are right on the money. Also built a VLE Models vac, which was good but not as good as Roseplane. Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:01:09 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Scratchbuilt Wings Message-ID: <001d01c03e1f$10b85cc0$fbf2aec7@default> > I prefer to skin a wing even though I know that a simple scored lump of plastic is probably closer to scale. Modelers perfidy ;) And I do use tape. Even though I beleive that, with care, it should be possible to cement the skin directly to the core I just don't have the nerve R/C modeler's trick: Balsa skins on foam (often polystyrene) cores are done by painting a thin coat of white glue on both pieces and letting it dry. Then iron the skin to the core.with low heat. The plastic & wood are reversed, but since not much heat is required, there is no reason it shouldn't work. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 20:46:44 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: vac quality Message-ID: Howdy! Michael says: "I have never attempted Sierra Scale vacuform or even seen one. Are they as good as Roseplane's vacs? I've built a couple of those and they are right on the money. Also built a VLE Models vac, which was good but not as good as Roseplane." I say: I may be a bit jaded towards Roseplane. The only kit of theirs I have purchased or completed is their Caudron G.III. I wasn't very happy with this kit. Matt later informed me that this was not originally a Roseplane vac, but purchased from another company. Therefore not up to their usual high standards. I may try another one, but I don't know when. The following kits from Sierra scale are on my workbench. Mostly cut out and awaiting interior detailing. I need to write to P. Grose (sp?) one of these days and discuss coloring on that Gotha! Gotha Gl.VII Phonix C.I and D.I Fredrichshaven FF.33 All of these were made from nice thick plastic. The halves all mated nicely too. These are the important things to look for in vac kits. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:00:12 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: vac quality Message-ID: <200010250159.SAA02091@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:51:35 -0400 (EDT), Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com wrote: > I may be a bit jaded towards Roseplane. The only kit of theirs I have > purchased or completed is their Caudron G.III. I wasn't very happy with > this kit. Matt later informed me that this was not originally a Roseplane > vac, but purchased from another company. Therefore not up to their usual > high standards. I may try another one, but I don't know when. Sorry, Brent, but I would have never said that. It is original, just one of their first releases. Maybe try something besides a boomer for your first vac? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:11:12 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: vac quality Message-ID: <60.81320a5.27279b40@aol.com> In a message dated 10/24/2000 10:02:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << Sorry, Brent, but I would have never said that. It is original, just one of their first releases. >> Hi gang The Caudron G-3 masters were made in the UK for us years ago. All our current vacs are made in house & are much better -at least we think so :-) Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:16:46 -0700 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: The agony and the ecstasy Message-ID: <00c701c03e42$c6a5eb60$8e2f3ccc@oemcomputer> The Argus is great - resin pistons & crankcase, individual cast metal pushrods w/ rocker arms, etc, it is the engine that comes with his Hannover kit. Dave Calhoun ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Hayes" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 3:16 PM Subject: Re: The agony and the ecstasy > David, > > The kit is still available so the decals probably are > too. Koster also offers a 1:48 Argus in 17 pcs. I > wonder how good it is. > > TH > --- David Calhoun wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > The best sheet available IMO for the Sopwith > > Triplane is from Koster. He > > issued it with his vacuform triplane, and it has > > markings for a lot of > > different aircraft, including the entire Black > > flight. I bought mine > > separately a couple of years ago, costs about $4.00 > > last time I saw. > > Hopefully he still has some in stock. I do not have > > the latest address for > > Koster, it's probably in the latest FSM. > > Dave Calhoun > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Kendix" > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:13 AM > > Subject: Re: The agony and the ecstasy > > > > > > > >From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson > > > > > > >Who makes good 1:48 scale Sopwith Tripe decals?? > > > >I haven't checked the Americal list yet but just > > wondered if anyone >had > > > >any suggestions. > > > > > > As you say, Americal-Gryphon is one that I've used > > for 1/72nd scale - I > > have > > > their large and small RFC/RAF roundel sheets. I > > assume this is a > > > Commonwealth aeroplane since it's PC-10 - some > > Sopwith Triplanes were in > > > French colours but I recall mainly CDL. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own > > public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2745 **********************