WWI Digest 2741 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) DH4. by "Len Smith" 2) Re: UK Nats by "Len Smith" 3) Re: Comic Camels by "Len Smith" 4) Re: Next cookup voting -final results by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 5) Re: WWI digest 2740 by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 6) Americal Decals Question by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 7) Re: Americal Decals Question by Todd Hayes 8) Re:scale of model kits by "Neil Crawford" 9) Re: Shane's scratchbuilds, was UK Nats by "Nigel Rayner" 10) Re: Tauro A7V by "Nigel Rayner" 11) Re: Shane's scratchbuilds, was UK Nats by Matt Bittner 12) Re: The Curse of Weier by "Nigel Rayner" 13) One Last Question On Collishaw's Sopwith Strutter by "Laskodi" 14) Re: RE: Colour of Cockpit Interior of Pfalz D.III by "Ray Boorman" 15) Re: scale of model kits by KarrArt@aol.com 16) Re: RE: Colour of Cockpit Interior of Pfalz D.III by "Michael Kendix" 17) Re: scale of model kits by "Mark Shannon" 18) Re: Colour of Cockpit Interior of Pfalz D.III by KarrArt@aol.com 19) Re: UK Nats by "Steven Schofield" 20) Re: scale of model kits by Matt Bittner 21) Re: One Last Question On Collishaw's Sopwith Strutter by "Bob Pearson" 22) Fw: http://www.aviationnow.com/TwoShare/getPage/AWContent/Quiz/Q by "Tom Solinski" 23) re: Squadron/mmd, What a ripoff!! by Todd Hayes 24) RE: Soon to be unveiled by Shane Weier 25) ot: Private Pilots by "Gaston Graf" 26) RE: UK Nats by Shane Weier 27) RE: Bob Down? by Shane Weier 28) Re: scale of model kits by Lee Mensinger 29) RE: UK Nats (and sacrificial goats) by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:45:19 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: DH4. Message-ID: <000f01c03d15$62488020$ef4f08c3@mesh> Greetings, Released at the Scale Modelworld show was the Datafile Special Volume 1 on the DH4, by J.M.Bruce (who else?). This is a veritable 'tour de force' of a book, 60 pages plus cover, containing over 135 photos, four pages of colour profiles (including several very pretty camouflaged ones ) and Ian Stair plans mainly for the Eagle versions but also side views of the RAF 3a and Siddeley Puma. Both marks of undercarriage are shown, and the different strut sizes are quoted. For anyone contemplating building a DH4 this book is a must have. Be warned that there are many differences in various aircraft, the pilots cockpit on the RAF3a and most of the Puma engined aircraft is further forward than the Eagle powered ones for example and in the Appendices is a listing of 27 airscrews, 2 and 4 bladed and left and right handed, used. An even closer study than usual of photos is going to be necessary when modelling a specific 'plane. Volume 2 , coming soon, "will include late war examples (including Belgian machines) , post-war conversions and the American-built DH4 Liberty Plane." Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:48:12 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: UK Nats Message-ID: <001101c03d15$63b09ba0$ef4f08c3@mesh> Ray, Sorry to disappoint you, but the Model Engineer Exhibition has gone downhll over the last several years, in fact I believe it was cancelled last year. The latest news is that it is on this year, 29/12/00 to 1/1/01 at Sandown Park, but only for ENGINEERING modelling, plastic not allowed. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Boorman" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 7:44 PM Subject: RE: UK Nats > I don't know if its still held but another event in Britain was the Model > Engineer Exhibition (Usually held in late December early January). It was in > London when I lived there but I think its moved to the midlands now. > > I have never seen anything quite like this anywhere else. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:32:50 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Comic Camels Message-ID: <001201c03d15$647a0620$ef4f08c3@mesh> Ray, The Camel File by Ray Sturtivant and Gordon Page has a very full set of Camel drawings including prototypes, taper wing, two seat trainers, Comics and nightfighters,trench fighter, Camel seaplane, Swallow and Scooter. all are in 1/48 scale, but apart from that are useful. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Boorman" > Now on to Comic Camels. From what I have read the Comic Camels would seem to > have been a field conversion only, originally by 44 Squadron. The conversion > involved the fuel tank and pilot positions being swapped around. A smaller > fuel tank from a BE2 was installed instead of the standard tank. > Unfortunately this reduced the endurance of the Aircraft drastically. > > Along with the resiting of the pilot, the Vickers Machine Guns - > Synchronizing gear and Covering hump were removed. Twin Overwing Lewis guns > replaced the Vickers. This created a very racy looking aircraft. According > to what I read this modification created an aircraft that was more > maneuverable and controllable, climbed like stink and with the exception of > endurance was a better aircraft than the normal Sopwith Camel. Typically > these aircraft were fitted with Le Rhone Rotaries (these being considerably > lighter than Clergets). - You could say they created the GT Version of the > Camel ;) > > Does anyone know if there are any drawings of this type available?? The > later Night Fighter Camels were standard Camels as far as I can tell, the > Comic Camel being a field mod only. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:24:27 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Next cookup voting -final results Message-ID: In a message dated 10/23/00 3:12:06 AM EST, ammi-alme@unicalce.it writes: << just wonder why the List's quizlet results are not taken into consideration to know which is the real winner ... Alberto Casirati >> Due to the fact there was no way to be sure that *list members* were the voters. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:14:41 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI digest 2740 Message-ID: <85256981.00649E22.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com> Hi All, Just finishing up an old Entex (yeah, that's right, I'm a masochist!!!) D-III interior, that I am doing as Lothar von Richtofen's mount(the one he got "handed down" to him from big brother Manfred, and I just wanted to double check my research(from the site, web and my reference library) that the interior framing was wood and not metal tubing. I am getting ready to paint and just wanted some input. Also, any good interior shots anywhere? I haven't gone thru all of the build photos on the site yet. I was wondering if the seat had lightening holes in it and really was a black or leather or what..... TIA Regards, John P.S. I'm really hoping that this sow's ear does become a silk purse!!!! At least you get your money's worth in building(and correcting!!!!) skills out of these old kits......... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:24:33 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Americal Decals Question Message-ID: <85256981.0065858D.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com> Hi Folks, Does any who is familiar with their 1/72(LUNATIC SCALE!!!) sheets know if any of them have Albatros company(rudder) logos on them? I thought I had some in this scale, but don't..Need them for my current project. TIA. Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:33:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Americal Decals Question Message-ID: <20001023183303.32795.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> John, I'm not sure about the logos (probably), but a/g does a first class job of providing all necessary decals. TH --- John_Impenna@hyperion.com wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > Does any who is familiar with their 1/72(LUNATIC > SCALE!!!) sheets know if any of > them have Albatros company(rudder) logos on them? I > thought I had some in this > scale, but don't..Need them for my current project. > TIA. > > Regards, > John > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:26:22 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: Re:scale of model kits Message-ID: <20001023183402.RVW25920.fep03-svc.swip.net@default> On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:24:55 -0400 (EDT), Xoty Xot wrote: > Does anyone out there know why model kits come in the > scales they do? Why is 1/72 the only scale you can > find both armor and airplane kits in? From a diorama > perspective it would be nice to have a plane in 1/35 > or a tank/staff car (etc) in 1/48. The reason for 1/72: One of the first scales for model aircraft was 1/36 (one yard = one inch) , but people thought the models were too big for a decent collection, especially if you think of the size of british housing in the thirties. So they divided it by two. And that is still the real reason for 1/72, although a lot of people don't realise it. The essence of 1/72 is the collection, its the only scale in which you can build a really representative collection, other scales are either too big, or too few kits are available. 1/72 is half of 1/36, and 1/144 is half of 1/72. Then 1/12 is one inch per foot, 1/24 is half that, and 1/48 is half of a half, so thats why its called quarter-scale! How on earth the armour people arrived at 1/35 is something I've never understood, but what's logic got to do with it anyway. Can someone also explain 1/32 ? /Neil ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:46:51 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Re: Shane's scratchbuilds, was UK Nats Message-ID: <001e01c03d21$9c366700$9f4f883e@w1o0t3> Shane wrote: >So - you should expect injection kits of the Albatros W.4, LVG C.VI and >Caproni Ca.3 to appear in the next two years since I have major chunks of >all three completed and am waiting for the necessary rush of enthusiasm to >actually finish one Neither. Could you please start that Lloyd 40.08 triplane thing, because I'd love to see an injected version of that :-) Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:57:12 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Re: Tauro A7V Message-ID: <002b01c03d23$0e492c00$9f4f883e@w1o0t3> DB wrote (re the Tauro A7V): >It looks like a detailed kit, but are there pointers as to how to avoid any problems, or >detail suggestions? Hey Dave, go here http://www.cs.net/panzer/panzergruppe/apr99/apr99.htm and click on "Building an A7V." Great Tauro build article which I used for my Milicast braille scale A7V. Sorry if someone else already posted this, I'm digesting.... Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:52:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Shane's scratchbuilds, was UK Nats Message-ID: <20001023185219.6699.qmail@web1103.mail.yahoo.com> --- Nigel Rayner wrote: > Neither. Could you please start that Lloyd 40.08 triplane > thing, because I'd > love to see an injected version of that :-) But it's already been released in injected plastic! Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:05:55 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Re: The Curse of Weier Message-ID: <003401c03d24$45fb7bc0$9f4f883e@w1o0t3> Poor Diego exasperated, upon hearing the news of the Pegasus Halberstadt DII: >WHAT? WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING??????????' >D. >covered in plastic dust, with an almost scratchbuilt Halberstadt fuselage in >his bloody fingers. Hard luck Diego. It's called the Curse of Weier. If you're not mad already when you start a scratchbuild, this one's guaranteed to send you over the top..... Cheers, Nigel (Still amazed at the skill and patience of anyone who can scratchbuild anything!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:12:05 -0700 From: "Laskodi" To: "Post WW1 List" Subject: One Last Question On Collishaw's Sopwith Strutter Message-ID: <001301c03d25$22096820$553819d0@laskodi> Making good progress on the CSM Sopwith Strutter that I'm doing for a Canadian museum as Ray Collishaw's "9407" and it's time to start laying down decals. I have three profiles of this aircraft done by different artists and they all conflict! Unfortunately, I have no actual photos of this specific aircraft. On Collishaw's machine were the "RAF-style" roundels (not to be confused with the regular RFC roundels also present) also on the top side of the horizontal stabilizers? And, was the "RAF" roundel also done on the topside of the turtleback? I am appealing to this list's vast knowledge of markings gods to help and it may come down to who wins the vote! TIA ----------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:09:29 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: RE: Colour of Cockpit Interior of Pfalz D.III Message-ID: <67B3DBA6BF8A4D115A450005B80A2E33@Ray_B.prontomail.com>
Lance,
   I think you could well be correct with not painting the interior.
Just varnished or doped and thats it. The DIII used the same method
as the Rolands, I based this supposition on 1 paragraph in the DIII
datafile. It definatley said it was the earlier Roland method. The
other info came from the Roland datfile.

Ray (Eeps if html guck gets appended could someone let me know I am
posting this from work and have turned it off in prontomail I hope)


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From: "Lance Krieg" <lance.krieg@amerus.com>
Sent: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:52:07 -0400 (EDT)
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Colour of Cockpit Interior of Pfalz D.III


There have been a couple of threads on this subject over the years,
and I have no documentation one way or another.

But is raises some questions:

With a shortage of materials, why paint the interiors at all?

Was the Roland method of strip veneers the same as Pfalz? The clinker-
built Roland D.VI is a different technique than the one used for the
D.II and C.II.

I'm glad I'm not planning to build any of these planes for a while...

Lance



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------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:31:54 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scale of model kits Message-ID: <11.ab13219.2725ec2a@aol.com> In a message dated 10/23/00 11:42:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, neil.crawford@swipnet.se writes: << How on earth the armour people arrived at 1/35 is something I've never understood, but what's logic got to do with it anyway. Can someone also explain 1/32 ? /Neil >> What about the car guys who contend with both 1/24 AND 1/25? Now that's odd. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:39:03 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: RE: Colour of Cockpit Interior of Pfalz D.III Message-ID: Ray says... >I think you could well be correct with not painting the interior. Just >varnished or doped and thats it. The DIII used the same method as the >Rolands, I based this supposition on 1 paragraph in the DIII datafile. Does this mean it's OK to paint the interior "brown" (wood)? The Pfalz D.XII on the WWI site has a brown/wood interior I believe. Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:53:15 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: scale of model kits Message-ID: I think 1/35 and 1/32 for armor kits came from the popular 'tin soldier' scale of 54mm -- two different interpretations of what scale the average 54mm soldier would be depending on the average person's height. Now, as to where 54mm as a toy soldier scale came about I have no idea -- unless it was one of those 'box scale' sort of things, it gives a roughly 2-2 1/2 " tall figurine, good for toy size. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:56:30 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Colour of Cockpit Interior of Pfalz D.III Message-ID: In a message dated 10/23/00 12:42:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mkendix@hotmail.com writes: << Does this mean it's OK to paint the interior "brown" (wood)? The Pfalz D.XII on the WWI site has a brown/wood interior I believe. Michael >> Both the Australian D.XII and the Champlin one have grayish painted interiors. Factory footage of Pfalz D.VIIs or D.VIIIs seem to show the interiors painted with whatever was sprayed on the exterior. The seams between the veneer strips were covered with paper tapes and would've presented a most untidy appearance left unpainted! RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:10:15 +0100 From: "Steven Schofield" To: Subject: Re: UK Nats Message-ID: <003b01c03d2d$5c5b8be0$61a993c3@oemcomputer> Well fellows, the UK Nats did get me motivated. I've put the LVG in a box and instead returned to my roots. I've started a Sopwith Pup - chequerboard finish, just so there's a bit of a challenge. I actually felt the competition area was a bit disappointing this year, though that could be my jaded mood showing. It was great to see Len again and to meet Nigel for the first time, good on you both - lovely people, though I envy Len's lifestyle a little... The racist comments from some Yorkshire and Lincolnshire IPMS members overheard at the bar caused me to desist from joining said body. (In fact I had to restrain myself from forcibly entering their 'discussion' with a mallet. I hope they had a car accident on the way home.) I'm currently re-designing my web site, based on contemporary (WW1 - era) art forms. Perhaps by the time I've done that, and updated the kit database, I'll have some new models to show off. Fret-Ye-Not, Scho http://www.ww1.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:14:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scale of model kits Message-ID: <20001023201415.21008.qmail@web1102.mail.yahoo.com> --- Mark Shannon wrote: > I think 1/35 and 1/32 for armor kits came from the popular 'tin > soldier' scale of 54mm -- two different interpretations of what > scale the average 54mm soldier would be depending on the > average person's height. I'm also pretty certain 1/35th was started by large-armor company Tamiya. Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:17:57 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: One Last Question On Collishaw's Sopwith Strutter Message-ID: <200010232030.NAA31197@mail.rapidnet.net> Depends on the period you are building it in. the aircraft in 3 wing were given unique markings to each aircraft. . however another fighter also carried the 'RAF roundel' .. OTTOMH the September 1916 photo showing 9407 has the roundel also on the turtledeck. It is my opinion that this was an early marking and as such was also worn by the other so marked Strutter. . the common practice later on was to have the marking on the fuselage sides and on the tailplane. By 12 October 1916, 9407 was wearing the flight number of 16, which is note shown in the photo. I go further into this in my article on 3 Wing's aircraft in OTF 13/4. Which profiles are you refering to? I know of Rimell's showing the September appearance. . this is the same one that I copied for my original watercolour profile. Also note that the roundels would have had NO white outline. Bob ---------- >From: "Laskodi" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: One Last Question On Collishaw's Sopwith Strutter >Date: Mon, Oct 23, 2000, 12:19 pm > > Making good progress on the CSM Sopwith Strutter that I'm doing for a > Canadian museum as Ray Collishaw's "9407" and it's time to start laying down > decals. I have three profiles of this aircraft done by different artists and > they all conflict! Unfortunately, I have no actual photos of this specific > aircraft. On Collishaw's machine were the "RAF-style" roundels (not to be > confused with the regular RFC roundels also present) also on the top side of > the horizontal stabilizers? And, was the "RAF" roundel also done on the > topside of the turtleback? I am appealing to this list's vast knowledge of > markings gods to help and it may come down to who wins the vote! > TIA > ----------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:52:05 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Fw: http://www.aviationnow.com/TwoShare/getPage/AWContent/Quiz/Q Message-ID: <007801c03d33$1a555400$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> hi Listees the Aviation Week and space tech weekly quiz has some OT questions this week Enjoy Tom S ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Solinski To: Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 1:11 PM Subject: http://www.aviationnow.com/TwoShare/getPage/AWContent/Quiz/Q > http://www.aviationnow.com/TwoShare/getPage/AWContent/Quiz/Quiz > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:18:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: re: Squadron/mmd, What a ripoff!! Message-ID: <20001023211802.50643.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> $42.00+ for the BM Dolphin? Blue Max direct is $31.78. Squadron, pull your heads out of your *#@^ and stop trying to rip us off!!! TH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:18:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Soon to be unveiled Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621B98@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> David, > >but the detail pics in the datafile have > >me salivating at the thought of a large scale scratchbuild, > maybe 1:24 (or 1:28 to match David Charles (soon to be unveiled??) DH-5) > > > I've just pulled the flat rigging wires off the DH5 and > replaced them with > "cable". For the streamline wires I had used fly tinsel cut > to about 0.3mm > in width and encountered two problems. > 1. Where the flying wires and the landing wires cross over > and touch, they > turn flat side to the front instead of being in the > streamline position. > 2. They still look too wide. To be accurate the rigging wires > in this scale > should be about 0.18mm wide. I have a sneaking suspicion that I'm never going to be convinced by RAF wires modelled in any scale smaller than about 1/24. I know that nothing I've tried looks to scale in 1/48 and it's interesting to see that you've decided against it in 1/28 ...and if you can't get it to look right I'm sure I can't either. > > The cable is neater, closer to scale, adds to the strength of > the model, and looks well. Good. So you'll be ready for the BSM Model of the Year night? If so I claim Chief Judges privelege and will take photos for Alans page that night. It's time you joined the gallery (mmm, and the mugshot lineup ;-) > > I'm so close to the finish with this one I'm making plans. > (thinks) ...how big would a Dolphin be in 1/28. Start with a > modified Spad H.S engine from the Revell kit... I think I'm about to start building in a larger scale on account of fading eyesight. I may avoid 1/28 (and you) and cut straight to 1/24. Build a Staaken and when Megan evicts me I can use it to roof my new abode. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 23:24:18 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: ot: Private Pilots Message-ID: Folks, is there anybody from either GB or the USA who owns a private pilot license? If so, would you please contact me offlist to discuss several questions? I am currently taking the English courses of the theory lessons here in Luxemburg but because the ministry of transport did quite a bad translation of the official French questions for the examination test there seem to be some important differences in definations of terms. hope to hear from you soon ;o) Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:27:10 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: UK Nats Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621B99@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Diego wails: > > next Pegasus releases are Spad > > XII, Halberstadt DII, Airco DH5, Vickers Gun Bus and Bistol fighter. > > WHAT? WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING??????????' > D. > covered in plastic dust, with an almost scratchbuilt > Halberstadt fuselage in his bloody fingers. HAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah, oh my, Hhehheheheheheheheheh, ROTFL. Not just *me* this time. Shane (I'm really *very* sympathetic ;-) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:29:17 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Bob Down? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621B9A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> David > and fellow Murwillumbah-ite..... Uh-oh. That explains a lot of things. Maybe even including this wierd obsession with 1:28 Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:53:03 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: scale of model kits Message-ID: <39F4B33F.155A1745@x25.net> It is very simple that 1/72 achieved a degree of success because the buyers wanted a scale that was uniform. The first 1/72nd I got was in the mid 1940s and when IPMS started in the UK it was a theme often repeated. Stop the nonsense and make models in the same scale so they can be displayed together in a decent manner. They bought 1/72nd and 1/48th. The larger scale was mopre expensive so the smaller scale sold best. I still do not understand 1/32nd and 1/35th. Totally senseless. The main thing is that the group building models made the choice for 1/72 and it is with us. The model clubs set groups of 1/72nd, 1/48th and a few others for contests etc. The industry went along with it because it made sense and the products sold better while the stupid scales fell by the wayside. Any one want some nice 1/57th and 1/68th models. I may have a few laying around, in storage, yet. Lee M. Neil Crawford wrote: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:24:55 -0400 (EDT), Xoty Xot wrote: > > Does anyone out there know why model kits come in the > > scales they do? Why is 1/72 the only scale you can > > find both armor and airplane kits in? From a diorama > > perspective it would be nice to have a plane in 1/35 > > or a tank/staff car (etc) in 1/48. > > The reason for 1/72: One of the first scales for model > aircraft was 1/36 (one yard = one inch) , but people thought > the models were too big for a decent collection, especially > if you think of the size of british housing in the thirties. > So they divided it by two. > And that is still the real reason for 1/72, although a lot > of people don't realise it. The essence of 1/72 is the > collection, its the only scale in which you can build a > really representative collection, other scales are either > too big, or too few kits are available. > > 1/72 is half of 1/36, and 1/144 is half of 1/72. Then 1/12 > is one inch per foot, 1/24 is half that, and 1/48 is half of > a half, so thats why its called quarter-scale! > > How on earth the armour people arrived at 1/35 is something > I've never understood, but what's logic got to do with it > anyway. Can someone also explain 1/32 ? > /Neil > ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:43:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: UK Nats (and sacrificial goats) Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621B9C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> StY says: > Ahem, I haven't started the "proper scale" Staaken yet - just sniffed > the plastic & rounding up refs ;-). Plus, it's a kit not a > scratchbuild ;-) Yeah, well, BIG dificult vacforms are also quite good bait for thye modelling Gods. You wait and see - just before you finish the vac Roden will release theirs (with options for all Staakens and full bomb load). That way have the pleasure of deciding whether or not to finish. > However, with Mistress Lorna & Mistress Megan in the same house you > should have seen the Shane's "hop to it" whenever their name > was called regardless of who was wanted & by whom ;-). > It was kind of funny. Exit, running, large and small Shanes....models still spinning on the bench. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2741 **********************