WWI Digest 2731 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: CYG! - In Gaithersburg by Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu 2) Re:BM Disappointment by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 3) Re:BM Disappointment by "Michael Kendix" 4) RE: Cobby's Camel? by "cameron rile" 5) Scars WAS:BM Disappointment by "dfernet0" 6) Re: Scars WAS:BM Disappointment by David Fleming 7) Re: Even *more* OT at Modeling Madness! by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: WWI List meeting in Gaithersburg, Maryland by Sharon Henderson 9) Re: Even *more* OT at Modeling Madness! by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 10) Re: WWI List meeting in Gaithersburg, Maryland by Dan 11) Re: CYG! - In Gaithersburg by Sharon Henderson 12) Re: BM Disappointment by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 13) Re: WWI List meeting in Gaithersburg, Maryland by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 14) Re: WWI List meeting in Gaithersburg, Maryland by "Bob Pearson" 15) Tom's Diplomatic Skills (!) by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 16) Re: Scars WAS:BM Disappointment by "DAVID BURKE" 17) Re: Tom's Diplomatic Skills (!) by "DAVID BURKE" 18) Re: Even *more* OT at Modeling Madness! by "Candice Uhlir" 19) RE: Tom's Diplomatic Skills (!) by "dfernet0" 20) Re: Scars WAS:BM Disappointment by "Michael Kendix" 21) Re: BM Disappointment by Dan 22) RE: BM Disappointment by "dfernet0" 23) evening program ideas by "Michael Kendix" 24) Re: Tom's Diplomatic Skills (!) by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 25) Re: evening program ideas by "Matt Bittner" 26) Re: evening program ideas by Dan 27) Re: Scars WAS:BM Disappointment by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 28) Re: Scars by Shane & Lorna Jenkins ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:08:17 -0400 From: Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: CYG! - In Gaithersburg Message-ID: Sharon, Alvie, Mike, Cyg and any others, I say meet at Roy's between 7 & 7:30 This should cover those that need to go to Hilton and then get to Roy's or those that go direct... or should 6:30 to 7 be the time?? Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:49:11 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:BM Disappointment Message-ID: <8525697D.0051CC0D.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com> Hi Folks, Because of the recent thread regarding this, I looked a little closer at the BM kits that I have purhcased. I found no issues with the Nie. 28, Junkers D-1(really happy to have this one in this scale!!!), Pfalz D-XII. However, I did find ther "ripple" problem in the lower wing on the Halberstadt CL-II. I see no reason for me, or anyone else, to accept this. It would require sanding of the trailing edge and since the trailing edge is also misshapen, it will alter its shape. I will simply request replacement wings from Blue Max. I don't see how this is unreasonable. The fact that these are "cottage industry" or "limited run" kits should not exempt the manufacturer from their obligation as a seller. Yes, "caveat emptor" applies, but a useable wing is EXPECTED in a model kit. I don't have a problem with his pricing, but for what these kits are sold for, BM should cheerfully replace what essentially amounts to defective parts. You all would expect the same if your new dishwasher, or television, or VCR had problems!!!! This is the major reason I purchase such items with a credit card. I f I don't get satisfaction in a reasonable amount of time, I have the charge reversed and then dispute it. No games. In all the purchases I have made over the years, I have only had to do this once. Not so easy with a check or money order!!!! All manufacturers should have "their feet held to the fire" when it comes to their products, but in a courteous and professional manner. I hope my experience is a positive one because I will base any future purchases on how it is handled. There seems to be mixed experiences with BM's customer service on the list. I guess it is my turn to find out. We should not, however, just accept this as a normal course because this is a cottage industry manufacturer. P.T. Barnum had a saying about people who accept stuff like this...... Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:25:44 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re:BM Disappointment Message-ID: >From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com.. >This is the major reason I purchase such items with a >credit card. If I don't get satisfaction in a reasonable amount of >time, >I have the charge reversed and then dispute it. No games. This seems to be the way to deal with any vendor or manufacturer that doesn't deliver the product they claim to sell. Pay by credit card. If the goods are faulty, inform your credit card company and negate the charge. I guarantee that this will bring about a very swift reaction from said manfacturer. BTW, had my first real modelling injury last night. Sliced open my left thumb with an Xacto knife. More experinced modeller probably have loads of scars. I still recall Shane W.'s story of the Xacto rolling off his desk in a hotel and landing point down into his foot. Nice one!:) Then there's the man who like to do modelling in only his underwear, left some superglue on his chair seat and now has a pair of underpants for a non-removable seat cover. Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:08:45 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Cobby's Camel? Message-ID: <9221C675EC5A4D115A050005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> David, >The Camel replica in the RAAF Museum in Bull Creek, in Perth, WA, Australia, >Centre of the Universe etc etc. is not based on a Cobby machine. Bugger I thought it was. I gave the Rhinebeck bloke a tonne of info on Cobbys Camel so maybe one day a boomeranged and chaplined Camel will be flying again! :) Fingers crossed. >He was able to refer to the museum's references on Cobby and said that the >plaque was above the Chaplin silhouette on 4 Sqn AFC machine with the There doesnt seem to be any pictures showing a plaque above and below like Cobby described, so I am with Shane on this. I also have not seen a picture of any of Cobbys aircraft from the right hand side either. There are several of the left. >serial number B2404 (Code D) and There is a common picture of 4 Sqn line up early on with their boomerang markings, A is prominent as is D. If you peer closely at D you can see the chaplin attached to the plywood surfaces. But you have to see through some pilots ( always standing infront of the juicy details ). I wonder if this is the picture of B2404 that Clifford based his profile off and whether the original picture is clearer. btw at that time A would be expected to be O'Hara-Woods machine. Anyone else got an opinion on this photograph or know more about other published photographs? >another nachine with code A (but serial >unconfirmed same sqd). High Adventure has several pics of differant "A" machines Cobby flew, but none with a visible serial. About the only clue is the picture Hurley took over the butts of Cobby machines, IIRC Hurley was with the squadron in July 1918 (Shane?) which could possibly make that machine D1929. Anyone confirm, deny or have a differant take? >He recommended that you contact the Australian War Memorial in Canberra who >have possession of the said Chaplin emblem (which was made of metal BTW - The RAAF Museum at Point Cook has one of the Chaplins on display, Gordon Branch took a photo of it and it is on the AFC Website; http://members.nbci.com/PointCook/afc_gallery_1999_cobbychaplin.htm Dig the colours. cam AFC - http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:02:31 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Scars WAS:BM Disappointment Message-ID: <001b01c039e5$fd493020$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Michael wrote: > BTW, had my first real modelling injury last night. Sliced open my left > thumb with an Xacto knife. My deepest sympathies. Take care of that cut! > More experinced modeller probably have loads of > scars. I have loads of scars before having enough experience! Sometimes the learning process needs a bit of blood to really grasp the drifting minds like mine. Knowing that I would NEVER do any modelling in any unprotected guise (i.e. underwear) -shudder!- D. A.K.A. nine fingers ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:18:22 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Scars WAS:BM Disappointment Message-ID: <39EF1ECE.D37734FF@dial.pipex.com> dfernet0 wrote: >I have loads of scars before having enough experience! Sometimes the > learning process needs a bit of blood to really grasp the drifting minds > like mine. Knowing that I would NEVER do any modelling in any unprotected > guise (i.e. underwear) -shudder!- > D. When I first started using Swan Morton scalpels, they regularly did their true purpose and cut skin. You quickly learn the two golden rules: 1) cut away from you 2) Fingernails (and particularly thumbnails) make great finger protectors. You'd almost think they were designed for it !! > > A.K.A. nine fingers Good job I wasn't drinking anything !! LOL ! DAF ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:02:56 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Even *more* OT at Modeling Madness! Message-ID: <4f.2492b37.27208340@aol.com> In a message dated 10/19/00 12:21:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, SOLOSYD@opssc.wa.gov.au writes: << Tom Well done on the BM Dolphin. One of my favorites. How do you finish 'em so quickly and so well. Don't you sleep? David S >> No, as a matter of fact, I don't think Tom does sleep! RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:13:28 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI List meeting in Gaithersburg, Maryland Message-ID: Ooops -- I thought we had mentioned 7:30 in posts earlier? Well, I managed to find the place -- good choice, Brian, it's very nice and homey, and the sandwiches were good! -- and did meet up with Cyg and have dinner. He's a wonderful story-teller, and we had just a grand time! :-) He said something about possibly being back in February for a little longer, and when he has more info, will let us all know -- and we can nail down something solid in terms of where and when. Sorry for any mix-ups! Sharon At Wednesday, 18 October 2000, you wrote: >What time, when? > >Alvie > >Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu wrote: > >> How about meeting at Roy's Place in downtown/old town Gaithersburg? >> It's near the railroad tracks where Rt 355 crosses over the tracks on a >> high concrete bridge. >> South of the Lakeforest Mall, almost between Montgomery Village Avenue and >> Shady Grove exits of I-270. >> Great food, good selections of beer (so I'm told - I stick with sodas). >> >> Brian > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:13:10 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Even *more* OT at Modeling Madness! Message-ID: <68.854fe88.272085a6@aol.com> In a message dated 10/19/00 2:21:09 AM EST, SOLOSYD@opssc.wa.gov.au writes: << Well done on the BM Dolphin. One of my favorites. How do you finish 'em so quickly and so well. Don't you sleep? David S >> I am generally underemployed in my "profession"; the combination of excess time and an obsessive personality would be deadly if I hadn't addicted myself to plastic models, rather than the available alternatives. :-) TC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:29:38 -0400 From: Dan To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI List meeting in Gaithersburg, Maryland Message-ID: <39EF2F82.B703CF01@mindspring.com> Ahem--since this matter doesn't actually pertain the majority of listmembers, would it be possible to take it off the list, and confine to the interested parties? Thanks, Dan Sharon Henderson wrote: > Ooops -- I thought we had mentioned 7:30 in posts earlier? > > Well, I managed to find the place -- good choice, Brian, it's very > nice and homey, and the sandwiches were good! -- and did meet up > with Cyg and have dinner. He's a wonderful story-teller, and we > had just a grand time! :-) > > He said something about possibly being back in February for a little > longer, and when he has more info, will let us all know -- and we > can nail down something solid in terms of where and when. > > Sorry for any mix-ups! > > Sharon > > At Wednesday, 18 October 2000, you wrote: > > >What time, when? > > > >Alvie > > > >Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu wrote: > > > >> How about meeting at Roy's Place in downtown/old town Gaithersburg? > >> It's near the railroad tracks where Rt 355 crosses over the tracks > on a > >> high concrete bridge. > >> South of the Lakeforest Mall, almost between Montgomery Village > Avenue and > >> Shady Grove exits of I-270. > >> Great food, good selections of beer (so I'm told - I stick with > sodas). > >> > >> Brian > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:33:54 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: CYG! - In Gaithersburg Message-ID: Hi folks, Could someone who can actually talk (laryngitis strikes again...) call the Hilton on Perry Parkway, and find out if Cyg is still here? I can't remember if he was leaving tonight or tomorrow morning. But I'll be happy to sit quietly in the corner and listen, if there's a second get-together.... :-) Cheers, Sharon the Silent (for a change...) At Thursday, 19 October 2000, you wrote: >Sharon, Alvie, Mike, Cyg and any others, > >I say meet at Roy's between 7 & 7:30 >This should cover those that need to go to Hilton and then get to Roy's or >those that go direct... > >or should 6:30 to 7 be the time?? > >Brian > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:31:28 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: BM Disappointment Message-ID: <4d.24d711f.272089f0@aol.com> In a message dated 10/19/00 9:53:42 AM EST, John_Impenna@hyperion.com writes: << We should not, however, just accept this as a normal course because this is a cottage industry manufacturer. P.T. Barnum had a saying about people who accept stuff like this...... >> Given that List membership is up to a point where merely by numbers we represent a significant sector of the market to someone who makes 1,500 copies of what he sells, perhaps coming up with some communication to Mr. Gannon regarding his production quality on behalf of this significant section of his market might elicit a positive reaction from him. While some of you may doubt my "diplomatic skills," allow me to assure you I have 30 years' experience in politics and Hollwierd on how to tell an s.o.b. they're an s.o.b. and elicit a smile from them when they hear it; if there is agreement that such an idea is worth following up I would be happy to draft a statement and massage it to the point where a majority of us would be willing to send an e-mail copy of the statement to him in sufficient numbers that he gets the idea. I look forward to the response. TC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 04:38:30 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI List meeting in Gaithersburg, Maryland Message-ID: <39EF3FA6.A620D1B1@tac.com.au> Dan wrote: > > Ahem--since this matter doesn't actually pertain the majority of > listmembers, would it be possible to take it off the list, and confine to > the interested parties? > > Thanks, > > Dan Yeah, I agree. But since I'm interested in the Squasta meetings, howsabout we let it stay on list ;-). StY - A prospective squasta member one day ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:51:15 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI List meeting in Gaithersburg, Maryland Message-ID: <200010191803.LAA17075@mail.rapidnet.net> Nah post away. It allows those of us who couldn't attend to associate however vicariously .. and if there are others in the DC area that had thought about attending it would let them know that it has already taken place. Taken to the logical extreme, we wouldn't write about list gatherings in Phoenix or Florida, or wherever a few listees happen to meet. Far more interesting than vegemite Bob ---------- >From: Dan >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: WWI List meeting in Gaithersburg, Maryland >Date: Thu, Oct 19, 2000, 10:31 am > > Ahem--since this matter doesn't actually pertain the majority of > listmembers, would it be possible to take it off the list, and confine to > the interested parties? > > Thanks, > > Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:08:42 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Tom's Diplomatic Skills (!) Message-ID: Howdy! >>Given that List membership is up to a point where merely by numbers we represent a significant sector of the market to someone who makes 1,500 copies of what he sells, perhaps coming up with some communication to Mr. Gannon regarding his production quality on behalf of this significant section of his market might elicit a positive reaction from him. Good point. However, I feel there is a good chance CG monitors the list. Also, he already knows about these problems. Apparently he's satisfied with the way he does business. >>While some of you may doubt my "diplomatic skills," allow me to assure you I have 30 years' experience in politics and Hollwierd on how to tell an s.o.b. they're an s.o.b. and elicit a smile from them when they hear it; if there is agreement that such an idea is worth following up I would be happy to draft a statement and massage it to the point where a majority of us would be willing to send an e-mail copy of the statement to him in sufficient numbers that he gets the idea. Hah! Forgive me if I include myself among the doubters! :) The dark part of me that enjoys watching car crashes would enjoy watching you call CG an SOB and see if he smiles. I reckon some of those Hollyweird skills are regional and would be less than successful outside of California. (I'm having a mental image of a diplomatic TC in a biker bar in Houston. Nobody's smiling.) Considering your past dealings with CG he may be less than receptive to your ideas. I don't believe Chris Gannon is stupid. He knows what he produces and measures sucess in sales volume. As long as we keep complaining, AND purchasing his stuff nothing will change. Writing him a letter won't help. Neither will a form letter email campaign with 100 "me toos". CG won't learn anything he doesn't already know. Resist temptation Tom. Don't pour gas on the fire. Brent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:39:15 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Scars WAS:BM Disappointment Message-ID: <004601c039fc$8f43c920$d38faec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dfernet0" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 11:10 AM Subject: Scars WAS:BM Disappointment > Michael wrote: > > BTW, had my first real modelling injury last night. Sliced open my left > > thumb with an Xacto knife. I have some good ones. Two are real beauties. One was an accidental jab in the left wrist that severed a nerve and left a dead spot on the palm of my hand that is just going away. The other, I was using a chisel blade to remove detail from a cockpit tub. The blade punched thru and went smack into my left index finger. So I'm washing the wound (very little bleeding), and this white thing pops out of my finger. I thought it was a bit of skin, but when I tugged on it, my finger bent - it was the tendon! So I popped it back in and glued the wound closed. Healed up fine! Oh, and the time that I was holding a piece that I was cutting on (trying to cut away a blob of super glue), and it let go and I damned-near whacked off the tip of one of my fingers - talk about a bleeder! Sympathies - DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:44:02 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Tom's Diplomatic Skills (!) Message-ID: <004701c039fc$9014d4c0$d38faec7@com> Brent Wrote: > Resist temptation Tom. Don't pour gas on the fire. > > Brent > Look who you're talking to, Brent! I smell Hi-Test! :-) DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:45:33 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Even *more* OT at Modeling Madness! Message-ID: As one who sees Tom often I am amazed at how quickly he can knock off a quality model. I wouldn't be surprised if he sleep walks with his airbrush in hand!! Candice >From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Even *more* OT at Modeling Madness! >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:18:16 -0400 (EDT) > >In a message dated 10/19/00 2:21:09 AM EST, SOLOSYD@opssc.wa.gov.au writes: > ><< > Well done on the BM Dolphin. One of my favorites. > How do you finish 'em so quickly and so well. Don't you sleep? > > David S >> > >I am generally underemployed in my "profession"; the combination of excess >time and an obsessive personality would be deadly if I hadn't addicted >myself >to plastic models, rather than the available alternatives. :-) > >TC _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:54:55 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Tom's Diplomatic Skills (!) Message-ID: <003001c039fe$12b370c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dave wrote: > Look who you're talking to, Brent! I smell Hi-Test! :-) Heeey! he's not so terrible! Let's see how Tom puts his request and later we can argue, but let him present his request as to be directed to Mr. Gannon first before critizicing his manners. Of course he won't tell him S.O.B., and perhaps Mr. Gannon alr4eady reads the message, so we won't fool anyone here. D. Ducking in his dugout ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:56:38 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Scars WAS:BM Disappointment Message-ID: >From: "DAVID BURKE" >The blade punched thru and went smack into my left index finger. So >I'm >washing the wound (very little bleeding), and this white thing >pops out of >my finger. I thought you were going to say it was a prop boss that you'd dropped a couple of weeks back. >I thought it was a bit of skin, but when I tugged on it, my finger >bent - >it was the tendon! So I popped it back in and glued the wound >closed. >Healed up fine! Wasn't that one of the original uses for super glue in Vietnam? Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:03:35 -0400 From: Dan To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: BM Disappointment Message-ID: <39EF4587.D16227CC@mindspring.com> TomTheAeronut@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/19/00 9:53:42 AM EST, John_Impenna@hyperion.com writes: > > << We should > not, however, just accept this as a normal course because this is a cottage > industry manufacturer. P.T. Barnum had a saying about people who accept > stuff > like this...... >> > > Given that List membership is up to a point where merely by numbers we > represent a significant sector of the market to someone who makes 1,500 > copies of what he sells, perhaps coming up with some communication to Mr. > Gannon regarding his production quality on behalf of this significant section > of his market might elicit a positive reaction from him. While some of you > may doubt my "diplomatic skills," allow me to assure you I have 30 years' > experience in politics and Hollwierd on how to tell an s.o.b. they're an > s.o.b. and elicit a smile from them when they hear it; if there is agreement > that such an idea is worth following up I would be happy to draft a statement > and massage it to the point where a majority of us would be willing to send > an e-mail copy of the statement to him in sufficient numbers that he gets the > idea. > > I look forward to the response. > > TC What the heck, why not? At worst, it would merely be a waste of Tom's time and some postage. I can't imagine CG would keep a blacklist of all who signed the letter, and only put rippled wings and other sub-par stuff in their boxes. Since each of us would get a chance to see the letter before we sign it, anyone who has doubts about it can merely not sign. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:00:24 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: BM Disappointment Message-ID: <003301c039fe$d62e2a40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Being a member of the civilized society, that is, a 1/72 modeller -ahem- it was somehow surprising to read complaints about Blue Max "ripples" and CG customer service. Since I'm a regular Pegasus consumer, I never experienced any problem on the transactions, in fact if I order direct from his website, the goods are here in Argentina in less than a week (weird, huh?). In fact I once made a comment about a difference in the parts layout between Albatrosen D.II and D.III, staiting that the first one was easier to buiuld, and he answered nicely and quickly explaining the changes on the master. The discrepancies about the reports from listees from different parts of the world made me think if BM and Pegasus are run by the same people for the different parts of the globe. Mistery.... D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:09:26 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: evening program ideas Message-ID: I've been attending IPMS DC for about22 months now, so I felt morally obligated to help out. I volunteered for the job of Treasurer, which I believe won't be too time consuming - watching our bank balance gradually decline. Unfortunately, being part of the "Executive Cadre" requires some imagination and experience and I have little enough of those. Specifically, I need to come up with some ideas for "The Evening Program". They can be demonstrations of skills (or lack thereof), expositions of other interesting bits of knowledge. I thought I'd draw on this list's collective experience and ask what programs you've liked at your club and would recommend? For example, I did a thing on "WW1 Modelling" that was OK and people on the list helped with that. These ideas do not have to be specifically OT but would help us avoid having some bloke showing 296 slides of his holiday visit to aeroplane museum x. Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:14:23 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tom's Diplomatic Skills (!) Message-ID: In a message dated 10/19/00 1:11:35 PM EST, Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com writes: << Resist temptation Tom. Don't pour gas on the fire. >> assuming everyone is reading carefully, the idea is/was not to send anything that did not have group approval. I have no more right to act in the name of the List on my own than anyone does. BTW - I do well with bikers. Used to have a whole apartment building of "the Tribe" for neighbors, used to be good friends with the late "Terry the Tramp," a name you might recognize from Hunter Thompson's book on the Hell's Angels. :-) TC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:15:36 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: evening program ideas Message-ID: <200010191915.MAA23185@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:13:06 -0400 (EDT), Michael Kendix wrote: > I've been attending IPMS DC for about22 months now, so I felt morally > obligated to help out. I volunteered for the job of Treasurer, which I > believe won't be too time consuming - watching our bank balance gradually > decline. Unfortunately, being part of the "Executive Cadre" requires some > imagination and experience and I have little enough of those. Specifically, > I need to come up with some ideas for "The Evening Program". They can be > demonstrations of skills (or lack thereof), expositions of other interesting > bits of knowledge. I thought I'd draw on this list's collective experience > and ask what programs you've liked at your club and would recommend? For > example, I did a thing on "WW1 Modelling" that was OK and people on the list > helped with that. These ideas do not have to be specifically OT but would > help us avoid having some bloke showing 296 slides of his holiday visit to > aeroplane museum x. Easy. Compare and contrast 1/72nd and 1/48th and explain just why 1/72nd is better. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:19:15 -0400 From: Dan To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: evening program ideas Message-ID: <39EF4933.E086A540@mindspring.com> Michael Kendix wrote: > I've been attending IPMS DC for about22 months now, so I felt morally > obligated to help out. I volunteered for the job of Treasurer, which I > believe won't be too time consuming - watching our bank balance gradually > decline. Unfortunately, being part of the "Executive Cadre" requires some > imagination and experience and I have little enough of those. Specifically, > I need to come up with some ideas for "The Evening Program". They can be > demonstrations of skills (or lack thereof), expositions of other interesting > bits of knowledge. I thought I'd draw on this list's collective experience > and ask what programs you've liked at your club and would recommend? For > example, I did a thing on "WW1 Modelling" that was OK and people on the list > helped with that. These ideas do not have to be specifically OT but would > help us avoid having some bloke showing 296 slides of his holiday visit to > aeroplane museum x. > > Michael If it hasn't already been done, a seminar on how to use the PC and internet in modelling might be well received. I know when I attended a meeting and mentioned the various resources available I got a *lot* of interest. A nice thing about this topic is that it has universal application, no matter what people like to model. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:19:01 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Scars WAS:BM Disappointment Message-ID: I have one from age 16: managed to stab myself in the left hand - deeply! - trying to remove a badly-aligned part from a model with an Xacto. I missed the main nerve center of the hand by about 1/16", according to the doc who put in the six tight stitches, and there is a "dead spot" on the scar. I also managed a "Shane" with an Xacto that rolled off the workbench and dropped tip first into my big toe of my left foot a couple years ago. Ouch!! TC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 06:26:25 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Scars Message-ID: <39EF58F1.3C78C945@tac.com.au> Michael Kendix wrote: > > >From: "DAVID BURKE" > >The blade punched thru and went smack into my left index finger. So >I'm > >washing the wound (very little bleeding), and this white thing >pops out of > >my finger. > > I thought you were going to say it was a prop boss that you'd dropped a > couple of weeks back. > > >I thought it was a bit of skin, but when I tugged on it, my finger >bent - > >it was the tendon! So I popped it back in and glued the wound >closed. > >Healed up fine! > > Wasn't that one of the original uses for super glue in Vietnam? Hi, As a first aider with St John Ambulance Austalia (promoted to Corporal to other night ;-) ), I cannot recommend that you use CA for wounds no matter how how small they are - I can't stress this highly enough. No matter what it may have been originally intended for, there is always the possibilty of infection, etc, outside of a hospital, etc. I'd be taken to the cleaners with St John, if I ever advocated the use of CA for cuts. Instead, use basic first aid (if you don't have a First Aid certificate - GET ONE ;-) ) & just apply direct pressure to the site, then bandage it. Regards, Shane ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2731 **********************