WWI Digest 2714 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Eagle rotation again by "Neil Crawford" 2) Re: Matel vac machine by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Re: Matel vac machine by "Dale Sebring" 4) Re: Purple Alb., was: Re: von Richthofen book by "Dale Sebring" 5) 1/72 vs 1/48 by "Neil Crawford" 6) Re: Next Cookup. by Steve Cox 7) Re: Eagle rotation again by "Lance Krieg" 8) Re: Matel vac machine by KarrArt@aol.com 9) Re: off topic Mideast by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 10) Re: Meeting Aces by "cameron rile" 11) Re: new rogue added by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 12) Uh-Oh Busted Again! by "Laskodi" 13) Re: Matel vac machine by "David C. Fletcher" 14) Re: Meeting Aces by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 15) Re: 1/8 Scale Sopwith Triplane by Mark Miller 16) RE: Matel vac machine by "Graham Hunter" 17) Re: Matel vac machine by KarrArt@aol.com 18) Re: Matel vac machine by "DAVID BURKE" 19) Re: 1/8 Scale Sopwith Triplane by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 20) Re: 1/48 scale Mauser Rifle?? by Todd Hayes 21) FW:Brave Young Men; was Matel vac machine by "Graham Hunter" 22) Re: Penance by Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu 23) RE: Matel vac machine by "Graham Hunter" 24) Re: Matel vac machine by "Lance Krieg" 25) attn smperry@mindspring.com by Peter Leonard 26) Re: 1/72 vs 1/48 by Peter Leonard 27) Re: FW:Brave Young Men; was Matel vac machine by Zulis@aol.com 28) Re: 1/8 Scale Sopwith Triplane by Sharon Henderson 29) Re: Matel vac machine by Lee Mensinger 30) Re: FW:Brave Young Men; was Matel vac machine :-^^@"_@L7^Q2=OI90JTBR( by TomTheAeronut@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:27:31 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: Eagle rotation again Message-ID: <20001012183237.SHI17240.fep01-svc.swip.net@default> Nice one mate! But its still intriging why they built 62 falcons turning the wrong way. Was the Bristol Fighter the only aircraft with RR Falcon? I've always thought so. >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:45:42 +1000 >From: "D Charles" >To: >Subject: Re: RR Eagle rotation again >Message-ID: <02cb01c032a2$0bb86ae0$1d2ad7d2@charls> >> For the Falcon nearly >>all were Right hand tractors, but 62 were left hand tractors. >>This makes me wonder why they did this, and also which >>aircraft had left hand Falcons? /Neil >They would have been for use in the Southern Hemisphere. >:) ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:33:34 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Matel vac machine Message-ID: <69.b9a8010.27175dfe@aol.com> In a message dated 10/12/00 10:53:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kacosta@colsa.com writes: << Michael- The Mattel vac-form machines are pretty tough to come by, but well-worth it if you can find one. They are long out of production but I found mine through a classified add in FSM 7 or 8 years ago. I don't think it was too expensive when it was on toy store shelves, but I paid around $100 for mine. That's about what several others have also paid if the seller knows what he has. These days I would scour the swap meets or eBay. Other listees may have more/better suggestions. >> I'm still using the one my mom got bought for a Christmas present sometime in the late 60's (from the Sears catalog)- I think she paid around $12! I've also got another one as a spare (in almost new condition) that an insane ex-truck driver gave me a few years ago. For smaller parts- cowls, canopies- it's a great, CONVENIENT,durable little machine.....mine has had a LOT of use. I've also rigged up my own crude vac for bigger parts- but it involves too much work- the oven, the shop vac.etc...using it to make canopies takes five times longer than firing up the lil ol' Mattell unit. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:34:27 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Matel vac machine Message-ID: <004701c0347b$28dbf760$73b58dd0@main> Thanks RK, I'll try & locate some cartridges. Regards, Dale S. > For years I've been using the clear plastic from printer ink packages. The > four cartridge set from Cannon will yield enough clear, vacu-formable plastic > to do all kinds of things in the ol' Mattel unit! > RK > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:37:07 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Purple Alb., was: Re: von Richthofen book Message-ID: <000401c0347b$b7a15800$c4b58dd0@main> Sharon that will be awsome, I can hardly wait to see it! :-). Have a great one, Dale S. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:34:30 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: 1/72 vs 1/48 Message-ID: <20001012183940.THL14563.fep02-svc.swip.net@default> I think it's very individual if you find a scale easier. I've been a 1/72 modeller for 40 years, in that time I've built two 1/48 models. Both of them took somewhat longer to build than normal for me, and that's because I couldn't leave any details off. In 1/72 you can do an instrument dial with just a circle of dots and a needle, in fact you can usually leave out the dots. I couldn't do that in 1/48, I felt I had to try an make a more accurate instrument dial. In 1/72 you are almost forced to leave out some of the dials, for sanitys sake, and 1/72 often looks better with less detail. I just found myself adding more detail in 1/48 scale, so even if it was easier to do the detail, I spent more time anyway. I try not to join discussions about which scale is best, because they are both nice, it's just that 1/72 suits me. Incidentally, why do people build in 1/48 (4 feet per inch) and not in 1/36 which is one yard per inch? If I ever have a life-crisis, which I'm thinking of, I'm going to go up in scale to 1/36 (twice 1/72), then there is absolutely no risk of a kit appearing as soon as you've just scratchbuilt something. /Neil > Sorry Mark, I must absolutely and totally disagree. I'm am bi-scalular and find 1/48 easier and quicker because everything is so much bigger. The same number of parts go into my 1/72 models as in 1/48 models - only I need to be more precise and have a steadier hand and better eye-sight to accomplish the job with 1/72. For instance, take the Eduard Albatros D.V in both scales or theRoden Fokker DrI in 1/72 and the DML DrI in 1/48th. In each case the smaller model took me longer. Then again, I may have AMS. Some modelers reckon that in 1/72 you can skip more detail. I think that's a choice one makes. Following my logic, the bigger the scale the easier the model. When I want a real easy model I'll just go for 1:2 scale!! David S ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:41:19 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Next Cookup. Message-ID: I still have a Dr1 coming together slowly, and I vote for Sopwith for the next cookup Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "Len Smith" > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:25:28 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Next Cookup. > > Greetings, > > I have just done an unscientific and rapid survey of the current cookup. > Results are one each CV, DI, DIV, W4 and two each Dr1 and DII. The > remaining 90+% are DIIIs and DV or Vas. > > To me this result is most disturbing. I do not profess to know how many > different types Albatros made, but I am sure it must be more than nine. A > quick look at any list of available kits shows many more than this, even if > most are resins and in 1/72 scale. And yet most modellers prefer to stick > to the same three types. Is the spirit of adventure dead in the modelling > world? Look at any of the photo pages on Alan's site or any of the > listee's own pages and the same aircraft (not necessarily Albatros) appear > time and again, with a few notable exceptions. Beautiful models, well > built,superbly painted but done to death. > > I do not know or really care which manufacturer will be chosen for the next > cookup, I will quite happily build either. There is more variety of > Sopwiths available, but Nieuports are (or can be) prettier. But whichever > is chosen may I make a heartfelt plea for everyone to be a bit more > adventurous. > > Soap box/rant mode off, now I will retire to a couple different Scotches. > > Regards Len. > > > lensmith@clara.net > http://home.clara.net/lensmith > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:51:48 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Eagle rotation again Message-ID: Neil wonders: "...why they built 62 falcons turning the wrong way." In my (interminable) research into Felixstowes, it would seem that engines and porpellers were "handed" to reduce torque or provide easier access to a particular feature. Some Eagles, for instance, had their starting cranks on opposing sides. I suspect there must have been some Falcon applications that were twinned, and the same logic prevailed. FWIW Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:03:32 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Matel vac machine Message-ID: In a message dated 10/12/00 11:38:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, alleluja@ida.net writes: << alleluja@ida.net (Dale Sebring) Sender: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Reply-to: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu (Multiple recipients of list) Thanks RK, I'll try & locate some cartridges. Regards, Dale S. > For years I've been using the clear plastic from printer ink packages. The > four cartridge set from Cannon will yield enough clear, vacu-form >> Our old clunker of a Cannon printer- the best thing about it is that when we buy a new set of inks, they're packaged in pretty good quality clear plastic. I've also used clear plastic packaging from just about every other product imaginable. You name it- if it's in thin, stiff clear plastic- I've probably used it. As for yellowing or any deterioration, it's always been a bit better than the stuff that came with the Mattel. I have found a few products that had plastic that wouldn't soften correctly- but since it was essentially "free", I didn't worry! RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:33:56 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: off topic Mideast Message-ID: <57.c31e43f.27176c24@aol.com> Hopefully we will all express our hopes that 6,000 years of recorded history will stop repeating itself, and leave this hand grenade alone. That God put oil in the middle east and then populated it with all the people he did is proof he has a very dry sense of humor. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:48:47 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Meeting Aces Message-ID: <41D4BE0CE40A4D115A350005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> Peter, >Ginger Lacey was my first flight commander >in 1966. On one memorable day in 1973 I >met Bader, Tuck and Galamd. Name dropper or >what? My grandfather (RAF) and grandmother (WAAF) met at Tangmere during the Battle of Britain. They were both airframe fitters, Grandad on the Hurricanes and Mim on the Spitfires IIRC. They were married not soon after. Unfortunately both passed away before I appreciated the necessity to document their remarkable lives. cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/PointCook/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:50:13 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: new rogue added Message-ID: Howdy! >If no one has surfed the rogue's gallery lately, please drop by and check >"Brent Theobald's pic.... >What does he drinks? That gives him Berthold's frightful stare! That happens to be a small mug of Sam Adam's Boston Lager. The frightful stare is a result of the lithium beggining to wear off. >Anyway, also check his excellent work on the Albatros Cook Up. Nice example of bi-scalar >behaviour, Brent! Thanks! I can't wait to send ya'll some *real* photos of them once they are completed. Those shots can kind of be considered "workbench" shots. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:52:45 -0700 From: "Laskodi" To: "Post WW1 List" Subject: Uh-Oh Busted Again! Message-ID: <000f01c03485$fe699180$383819d0@laskodi> Just don't ask Steve Cox how many of them 10-thingies are hangin from the ceiling in my son's room! Might be sentenced to Merlins for all eternity! --------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:02:10 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Matel vac machine Message-ID: <39E618C2.1DFDBFC3@mars.ark.com> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: "I think she paid around $12!" IIRC, I paid around $14.95 for mine back in the Dark Ages. By the way, if anyone is doing a search it's Mattel (not Matel) Vacuform - the old proofreader in me refuses to let go. To make additional sheets, I made a template out of a couple of small pieces of plywood and some nails so that I could have holes that matched the Mattel sheets. If you don't have holes around the edge, the plastic will pull out when you try to form it. Incidentally, I once heard that the machines were discontinued because little Johnny somewhere fried his fingers on the heating element and the lawyers got into the act. Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:04:27 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Meeting Aces Message-ID: Howdy! Lee Mensinger wrote: >>I know one pilot who was not an Ace, but, worthy of note anyway. He is the last living pilot of a Ju 88 Mistell combination. His name is Werner Seitz and he is reported missing in the book KG 200, The True Story by Peter W. Stahl, on page 159 of the English language edition. Werner lives less than 40 miles away and I see him on occassion. Werner was shot down and imprisoned by the Russians while on the mission to blow up one of their major power plants as described in the book. I write: I had the pleasure of meeting this man a couple of years ago at the Cavanaugh Flight Museum. They had a 50th Anniversary of VE celebration that he attended. As I spoke to Werner another older man pushed me to the side and demanded to know where Werner was in '44 (I think). Werner told him and the pugnacious man replied that he had dropped bombs on that city that year. "What do you think about that?" he asked Werner. I was appalled at this man's behavior. Werner was obviously not in the best of health and to act so threatening after all this time really upset me. Much to my surprise Werner stood up as he extended a hand and said "I am glad you are here to meet me today". The other guy just broke down, shook Werner's hand and walk off with tears in his eyes. This is one of the most powerful moments of emotion I have ever witnessed. It still gives me chills to remember it even as I write this. Too bad more of us cannot learn from Mr. Seitz's example. I know, dreadfully off topic. This was such an amazing meeting and with Lee mentioning the Werner's name it just sparked the memory and I HAD to share it. Take care everyone, Brent ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 2000 13:01:17 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/8 Scale Sopwith Triplane Message-ID: <20001012200117.18695.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> > > Wow! > > > > You folks won't believe what was just dropped off on my desk. An isometric > > drawing of a skeleton Sopwith Triplane. No covering. All the ribs and spars > > are exposed. This drawing is 1/8 scale and is HUGE! > > > > A friend of mine here at work has been telling me about this 1/8 Tripe he's > > been designing. He plans on producing a kit similar to the big Hasegawa > > kits and the Model Airways D.Va. Except this one can fly! Judging by this > > iso he must be fairly well along. Apparently he's already contracted the > > company to laser cut all the parts etc. I'm itching to build this for the > > cookup! (And I was wanting to build a Nieuport). > > > > If I can get a JPEG of this drawing where do I send it? > > > > Later! > > > > Brent I would like a look at that drawing as well. Is it an actual hand drawn iso? haven't seen that done in a long time. As a technical illustrator I used to make isometric drawings - that is untill CAD put an end to it. To bad - I always enjoyed the process. Oh well CAD is fun too. btw - don't let artwork fool you into thinking something is real Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:11:58 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Matel vac machine Message-ID: <000201c03488$ad65cb20$fa0101c0@grahamh> << Incidentally, I once heard that the machines were discontinued because little Johnny somewhere fried his fingers on the heating element and the lawyers got into the act. Dave Fletcher>> And now you can't get a pack of gum that doesn't have a disclaimer sticker tagged to it somewhere ;-) GH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:19:21 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Matel vac machine Message-ID: In a message dated 10/12/00 12:59:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dcf@mars.ark.com writes: << To make additional sheets, I made a template out of a couple of small pieces of plywood and some nails so that I could have holes that matched the Mattel sheets. If you don't have holes around the edge, the plastic will pull out when you try to form it. Incidentally, I once heard that the machines were discontinued because little Johnny somewhere fried his fingers on the heating element and the lawyers got into the act. >> I don't even bother putting the gripper holes in my sheets- I just TAPE the stuff to the edges of the frame using Scotch tape. Every so often, I clean the old tape gunk off with laq thinner or some other solvent. (BTW- I still have one sheet of the gold-colored stuff that came with the machine...it's going into the family archives as an artifact) RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:21:59 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Matel vac machine Message-ID: <005201c0348a$15f23560$83e479a5@com> Incidentally, I once heard that > the machines were discontinued because little Johnny somewhere fried his > fingers on the heating element and the lawyers got into the act. > > Dave Fletcher > Ahh yes, the saga of Little Johnny the Retard. The same brat who has ruined most of the rest of the fun in the world. My take on it: Darwin's spirit attempting to kill off a redundant bloodline. Remember when we were kids? We had BB guns, toys that shot small projectiles, and had small enough pieces to be choked on. I survived with no major mishaps. How did X-acto blades survive? I dunno, but I'm sure that somewhere, Little Johnny 'Tard is slicing open his sister's head, the parents will sue, and voila - no more X-acto blades. Granted, the Mattel Vacuform machines could burn you, or possibly start a fire. Usually, however, such products were shown being used with the parents around. Most, if not all the time, the instructions said that the parents should be present. Hell, even the Easy-Bake oven (remember that one? 60 Watts of the tastiest lightbulb-cooked cupcakes you ever et, my friends) said that it should be used with the supervision of parents. God only knows what they'd use it for now, and also how much of the box must be covered with warnings (do not leave hamster in Easy-Bake Oven), and other stuff (do not use Easy-Bake oven as a space heater). Anyway, my envy that you found one. I'm gonna make my own. It's not very difficult. I used to use a commercial vac machine that took 12x18 inch sheets of styrene, and could do thin Lexan as well. It was tons of fun but you had to keep an eye on the heating elements to make sure that you weren't melting the plastic sheet! I used styrene up to .40 - .60 thou with it. It was a powerful amount of heat in there! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:21:44 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/8 Scale Sopwith Triplane Message-ID: Howdy! >I would like a look at that drawing as well. >Is it an actual hand drawn iso? haven't seen that done in a long time. >As a technical illustrator I used to make isometric drawings - that is untill CAD put an >end to it. To bad - I always enjoyed the process. Oh well CAD is fun too. Nope this model was completely built using a "Solid Modeling" CAD package named SDRC. That means every part in the drawing, ribs and spars etc, were individually modeled and then inserted into the assembly. As I understand it all these parts that are in the drawing have been laid out in 2D and sent out to the laser cutter. >btw - don't let artwork fool you into thinking something is real Heh heh! Not a problem. This is real. Someone else asked for a copy of the drawing. One of the ladies I think. Could you please respond to me again? I was overzealous deleting messages again. Brent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/48 scale Mauser Rifle?? Message-ID: <20001012204144.15461.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Tom, You're probably right about the mauser. I just figured the carbine would have been easier for them to handle and more likely. TH --- TomTheAeronut@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/11/00 11:06:38 PM EST, > thayes_52601@yahoo.com writes: > > << Wouldn't a carbine be better? Or Mauser M pistol? > >> > > A carbine would be as likely as a rifle in > 1914/early 1915. Not being an > expert on the history of small arms I may be > sticking my neck out here, but > wasn't the Mauser machine pistol a little later? It > was the weapon of choice > of the storm troopers of 1918 I do know. > > TC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:46:35 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: FW:Brave Young Men; was Matel vac machine Message-ID: <000301c0348d$8424a100$fa0101c0@grahamh> Sorry folks I drifted from OT...So... When reading about airmen of WWI I am always amazed at that these young men (some teenagers) were eager to risk their lives in machines that were hardly proven. On top of that these boys were thrown into combat situations with only a few hours of flying time under their belts. These were brave young men from most of the nations of the world that jumped at the chance to fly and fight for their country. It makes me think what the heck happened to us, when now the general public sues a company for selling them something useful that hurts them in some minor way. Graham -----Original Message----- From: Graham Hunter [mailto:ghunter@pangea.ca] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 03:12 PM To: 'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu' Subject: RE: Matel vac machine << Incidentally, I once heard that the machines were discontinued because little Johnny somewhere fried his fingers on the heating element and the lawyers got into the act. Dave Fletcher>> And now you can't get a pack of gum that doesn't have a disclaimer sticker tagged to it somewhere ;-) GH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:51:52 -0400 From: Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Penance Message-ID: That's not sufficent pennance.....I'll send him a Beechnut Fokker D-VIII Jeez Al, you're liable to get Amnesty International picketing outside your door for that! Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:18:43 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Matel vac machine Message-ID: <000401c03492$00dc96e0$fa0101c0@grahamh> -----Original Message----- Of DAVID BURKE << Remember when we were kids? We had BB guns, toys that shot small projectiles, and had small enough pieces to be choked on. I survived with no major mishaps.>> YES... remember those 45ish autos that shot those plastic pea sized BB's. Those were freakin' great. I sure wish I had bought a crate of those toys along with the eventual crate of ammo. Now my kids have to settle for these tin can shooting pistols that shoot ping pong sized balls (no worries of choking) that are fun to play with. <> Yeah... still just the normal size warning label... "X-acto blades are extremely sharp..." DUH. GH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:23:47 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Matel vac machine Message-ID: DB provided a lengthy rant, which struck me as enormously funny. A couple of things though... The Retard family will be filing a suit for the disparagment of their name... hardly politically correct! I suppose the BB gun has gone the way of the dodo bird... How on earth do you so much about Easy-Bake Ovens? Back OT, the suggestions of creating the registration holes, or merely taping down the plastic, had me slapping my head. Most of my little pins have long since broken off by my trying to force them through the sheets of plastic with pliers. I KNEW there was an easier way! Thanks, guys! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:59:58 +0100 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: attn smperry@mindspring.com Message-ID: <39E6345E.296ACD04@cwcom.net> Your e-mail is bouncing back mate Peter L Shane Weier wrote: > Lance says: > > > 4. Too cheap to buy Archers? OK, use Corel Draw or some > > other software to produce the preferred style of lacing, and > > print it onto decal film. Overspray it lightly to tone down > > the black. Cut into a strip and apply. No third dimension > > except for the decal strip itself, which does a good job of > > replicating the reinforced fabric near the seam. > > > > This is how I did the lacing one my Biff, except no overspray because I > printed the laces in grey so they wouldn't look so stark. FWIW I chose this > method after deciding that I didn't like the effect of any of the other > options (including Woodies finest). I think one of the photos in my section > of the site will give an idea of how they look > > Shane > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:13:19 +0100 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/72 vs 1/48 Message-ID: <39E6377E.BECE68F9@cwcom.net> >>I'm going to go up in scale to 1/36 (twice 1/72), then there is absolutely no risk of a kit appearing as soon as you've just scratchbuilt something. ,...Neil<< You wouldn't risk a small wager on that I suppose? I'll bet the incomplete 1/32 N28 in the shoe box over here, the one I started before the vacform came out ;) Anyone else got a sorry tale to tell? cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:26:01 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FW:Brave Young Men; was Matel vac machine Message-ID: Graham writes: << Sorry folks I drifted from OT...So... When reading about airmen of WWI I am always amazed at that these young men (some teenagers) were eager to risk their lives in machines that were hardly proven. On top of that these boys were thrown into combat situations with only a few hours of flying time under their belts. These were brave young men from most of the nations of the world that jumped at the chance to fly and fight for their country. It makes me think what the heck happened to us, when now the general public sues a company for selling them something useful that hurts them in some minor way. Graham >> I agree completely. And please permit me to add one more item. In a recent seminar, the presenter provided the following factoid: In 1911, the average person (I presume this was in the US or north america) would travel a total of 15,000 miles in his/her entire life. Furthermore, if you surveyed these people and determined what was the furthest they had ever been from home, the average would be about 31 miles. Can you just imagine the culture shock when these boys were put on ships and sent to Europe a few short years later? Then, while a world away from home, they were trained to kill and often saw gruesome death up close. Is it any wonder that those who returned home when it was all over were so changed that their relatives hardly recognized them? It was a very different world back then. I know this is ot, but these are the sorts of things I think about when I look a the photos and build the models. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:40:42 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/8 Scale Sopwith Triplane Message-ID: Hi Brent, It was myself. Thanks! :-) Sharon >Someone else asked for a copy of the drawing. One of the ladies I think. >Could you please respond to me again? I was overzealous deleting messages >again. > >Brent > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:46:51 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Matel vac machine Message-ID: <39E63F5B.71FFB032@x25.net> I never heard about any burnt fingers but I do remember a wonderful slogan from Mattel. You can tell it's swell if it's made by Mattel and discontinued in a year or less. If the folks didn't rush in and drop a million bucks on them the first week or so they sold off all of the stock,and, they quit making more immediately. The trick was to not let word get out before all the stock was gone. Lee "David C. Fletcher" wrote: > KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > "I think she paid around $12!" > > IIRC, I paid around $14.95 for mine back in the Dark Ages. By the way, > if anyone is doing a search it's Mattel (not Matel) Vacuform - the old > proofreader in me refuses to let go. > > To make additional sheets, I made a template out of a couple of small > pieces of plywood and some nails so that I could have holes that matched > the Mattel sheets. If you don't have holes around the edge, the plastic > will pull out when you try to form it. Incidentally, I once heard that > the machines were discontinued because little Johnny somewhere fried his > fingers on the heating element and the lawyers got into the act. > > Dave Fletcher > > -- > Visit us at our Home Page: > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:42:01 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FW:Brave Young Men; was Matel vac machine :-^^@"_@L7^Q2=OI90JTBR( Message-ID: <8.b6b89ac.27179839@aol.com> In a message dated 10/12/00 5:28:24 PM EST, Zulis@aol.com writes: << Can you just imagine the culture shock when these boys were put on ships and sent to Europe a few short years later? Then, while a world away from home, they were trained to kill and often saw gruesome death up close. Is it any wonder that those who returned home when it was all over were so changed that their relatives hardly recognized them? It was a very different world back then. I know this is ot, but these are the sorts of things I think about when I look a the photos and build the models. >> Dave - this is very OT - this is what it's all supposed to be about. Trying to escape Santayana's curse: "those who forget history are condemned to repeat it." TC ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2714 **********************