WWI Digest 2707 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: New cook-up preferences by "Brad & Merville" 2) Re: New cook-up preferences by Zulis@aol.com 3) RE: New cook-up preferences by Shane Weier 4) Re: SPAD VII cockpit info by Morg17ms@aol.com 5) Re: New cook-up preferences by David Fleming 6) Scratchbuilt figures and Scale Link website by Sixmilfigs@cs.com 7) attaching that second wing... by Xoty Xot 8) Happy Columbus Day by "David C. Fletcher" 9) Re: New cook-up preferences by "Limon3" 10) Re: Seeking Jasta 30 Albs & Pfalzs by "Stefen Karver" 11) RE: Seeking Jasta 30 Albs & Pfalzs by Shane Weier 12) RE: Seeking Jasta 30 Albs & Pfalzs by Shane Weier 13) Re: Seeking Jasta 30 Albs & Pfalzs by Zulis@aol.com 14) Re: Eduard Fokker DVIII - a review by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 15) Re: New cook-up preferences by Witold Kozakiewicz 16) Re: attaching that second wing... by "Alberto Casirati" 17) Re: RR Eagle rotation again by "D Charles" 18) Re:Laced Fabric by "D Charles" 19) RE: Re:Laced Fabric by "dfernet0" 20) Re: New cook-up preferences by Dennis Ugulano 21) Re: New cook-up preferences by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: New Cook-up WWI digest 2704 by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 23) Re: New cook-up preferences by David Fleming 24) Re: New cook-up preferences by David Fleming 25) New update by "Matt Bittner" 26) Re: New update by "Alberto Casirati" 27) Re: New update by Allan Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:06:44 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Re: New cook-up preferences Message-ID: <001701c03256$5dfe5860$14895ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> I too seem to be unsuccessful in regisreting my vote. Sopwith please, someone? Brad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:08:15 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New cook-up preferences Message-ID: <55.be0c58d.2713c5ff@aol.com> In a message dated 00-10-09 21:06:32 EDT, you write: << > Worse, you're being disenfranchised > >> > > Actually, isn't disenfranchisement one of many forms > oppression can take?? > :-) > Indeed. The form where you lose the right to vote, to be precise :-) >> Oh, that's not so bad then. I thought it was losing the right to own a McDonald's. Sorry I started all this. Dave Z. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:12:06 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: New cook-up preferences Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621B05@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mmmm. Now Brad says: > I too seem to be unsuccessful in regisreting my vote. Sopwith please, > someone? > I get the idea that the technology is a failure 1. Plenty of people *can't* vote 2. Nothing to stop the rest voting as often as they wish 3. Not a poll of list members only, but of all visitors to the site (and isn't the cookup for ww1 mailing list members?) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:22:46 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SPAD VII cockpit info Message-ID: <31.b2c11b5.2713c966@aol.com> Just got back from Dayton WWI "Fly In" - while there we four 'crazy canucks' got special permission to crawl all over the WWI aircraft, after hours on Saturday - museum even provided step-ladders so that we could get up and on the babies. Only restriction was that we not sit inside the cockpits. Anyway....I took about 36 shots of the SPAD VII including several of the cockpit - turned out pretty good! Later this week or early next week I'll get them to Graham Hunter to scan in. Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 14:34:04 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New cook-up preferences Message-ID: <39E1C94C.78D3D941@dial.pipex.com> Witold Kozakiewicz wrote: > Hi, > I read all cook-up letters and decided to count votes for two leading > projects Nieuport and Sopwith > Aaaaaargh ! I can't decide - both have their merits ! Sopwith - amongst my favourite aeroplanes, lots of kits, lots of nice colour schemes, lots of conversions (Will a Beardmore WB111 be acceptable ?) Nieuport - amongst my favourite aeroplanes, fewer kits, lots of nice colour schemes (RFC in 2-colour, 5-colour, silver, PC-10 & CDL), lots of conversions. (Mischevious thought - don't all Nieuports look the same ?) For us 1/72 modellers, Sopwith may mean easier models to build, but I've got a few Nie's just waiting to start, and Hannants have the RVHP Nie. Triplane in (Anyone seen this one, care to comment ?)................. I think I'll reserve my right not to vote on this one and go with the flow..........(Still like the AFV idea though - maybe next time ?) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:18:30 EDT From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Scratchbuilt figures and Scale Link website Message-ID: <54.a63a986.2713d676@cs.com> You can look at the Scale Link products here http://www.scalelink.co.uk/ but beware, there are no pics, only black and white drawings of the stuff, crude at best. Correct me if I am wrong, but I recall that the figures/heads were sculpted by Roger Saunders, who runs/sculpts the Hornet range of figures and accessories. This line also has some WWI heads, if you are interested. In addition to the books already listed, you might try to track down two from Schiffer, both by Kim Jones: Modeling Military Miniatures, Tools, Tips, & Techniques (ISBN: 0887408834) Sculpting Miniature Military Figures (ISBN: 0887406262 ) The second book is extremely helpful, walking the reader through a project from start to finish with tons of pics detailing the work along the way. Good luck with your diorama Shawn Kennedy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:38:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Xoty Xot To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: attaching that second wing... Message-ID: <20001010023840.7999.qmail@web6101.mail.yahoo.com> All right, for me the most frustrating thing about making a bi or tri-plane is the attachment of the top wings. Getting all the struts in the right holes, getting the wing straight, etc. I was wondering what techniques you all use to get those things on and aligned. I appreciate the help. R-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:43:51 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Happy Columbus Day Message-ID: <39E28267.F82FF2BE@mars.ark.com> Happy Columbus Day to the South (of the 49th parallel) Americans. It's 'Thanksgiving' up here in Canada (because the harvest has to come in much earlier up here than down there...). With only two of us, it was Cornish hen with all the trimmings, pumpkin pie, a fine bottle of Riesling Kabinet and a shot of Drambuie. Not much modelling will get done tonight! To keep things "OT", put me down for Sopwith, just to balance the family voting (but I probably won't get one built anyway). Two "ot" models on the gear in the last month though and a corrugated "ot" Junkers just acquired this week that looks tempting. And a fine 1:1 scale flight today :) Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:51:28 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: New cook-up preferences Message-ID: <004401c03264$fd99b000$5bde2a3f@f4w2s5> Count me in on the Nieuport side (Merci, Matt) -----Original Message----- From: Allan Wright To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:38 AM Subject: Re: New cook-up preferences >Argh - another 2 party system! > >I'll make a write-in vote for WWI AFVs > >-Allan > >> Hi, >> I read all cook-up letters and decided to count votes for two leading >> projects Nieuport and Sopwith >> >> Sopwith: >> 1. Shane Weier >> 2. Ernest Thomas >> 3. Tom Cleaver >> 4. Michael S. Alvarado >> 5. Paul A. Schwartzkopf >> 6. Bob Pearson >> 7. Tom Solinski >> 8. Cameron Rile >> 9. John (pugs99@att.net) >> 10. Merrill >> 11. David Burke >> 12. Witold Kozakiewicz >> >> >> Nieuport: >> 1. Alberto Casirati >> 2. Tomasz Gronczewski >> 3. Dale Beamish >> 4. Diego >> 5. Matt Bittner >> 6. Mike F. >> 7. Ozaki Hirohisa >> >> Looks like Sopwith is winning. >> Any one else? >> >> Yesterday we had president election in Poland so I is good time to count >> votes and put politic preferences away :-). >> If I made mistake please correct it :-). >> >> -- >> Witold Kozakiewicz >> > > >=========================================================================== ==== >Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny >University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- >Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu >=========================================================================== ==== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:04:32 -0400 From: "Stefen Karver" To: Subject: Re: Seeking Jasta 30 Albs & Pfalzs Message-ID: <013e01c0325e$70bfb360$956dd6d8@stephen> Good eve', Dave Z.,\ Thanks for the bibliography. I have access to the Franks and Windsock, so I can check those out. In fact, the WS 15/2 coverage is partly responsible for my inquiry. D. Roberts' contention in the tail piece on Bertrab isn't really supported by the photos of J30 aircraft presented earlier in that issue. The line-up is, unfortunately, equivocal about whether any spinner color is used, but otherwise shows a very mixed bag of markings on tail surfaces, or, in the case of Bertrab (and another aircraft in the background), the fuselage. I wonder what the Albatros photos in the Datafiles you mention show. A photo of a J5 line-up in CC (US), bibliographic data not to hand, also shows inconsistent application of the green tail, and several photos at the beginning of "The Circus" suggest that prior to inclusion in JG I, J4 and J10 aircraft also lack their usual unit markings. As the Jasta were just in the process of being formed in the Spring, I am beginning to think that consistent use of unit markings only occurred as a consequence of the example of JG1 and the leadership of MvR in the mid- to late Summer of '17. Thoughts? Regards, Stef ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Seeking Jasta 30 Albs & Pfalzs | | Stef enquires: | | << In addition to the well-known (?) but equivocal line-up of J30 Alb. | D.IIIs, | is there any photographic evidence that the unit colors of orange (yellow) | and black were in use in the late Spring/early Summer of '17? | I am also looking for examples of the unit's later lozenge marking on their | Pfalz. | Any scan-enabled good Samariitan who will post a .jpg or two in this | direction will be much appreciated. >> | | Well, I am not "scan-enabled".... but thought this list might help you find | some pics. | | GER Jasta 30 Albatros D.III Albatros Fighters - Windsock Special p.22 | GER Jasta 30 Albatros D.III Windsock Datafile # 1 p.5 | GER Jasta 30 Albatros D.III Windsock International 5/4 p.5 | GER Jasta 30 Albatros D.III Windsock International 15/2 p.27, 32, 33 | GER Jasta 30 Albatros D.III Franks + "The Jasta Pilots" p.156-AA | GER Jasta 30 Albatros D.V C&C 10/2 p.174 | GER Jasta 30 Pfalz D.III Profile Publications # 43 p.2, 8 | GER Jasta 30 Pfalz D.III Windsock Datafile # 21 p.12, 13, 14, bc | GER Jasta 30 Pfalz D.III Imrie "German Fighter..1917-18" p.16 | GER Jasta 30 Pfalz D.III Franks + "The Jasta Pilots" p.156-AA | | Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:05:24 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Seeking Jasta 30 Albs & Pfalzs Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621B0A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Stef comments > As the > Jasta were just in > the process of being formed in the Spring, I am beginning to > think that > consistent use of unit markings only occurred as a consequence of the > example of JG1 and the leadership of MvR in the mid- to late > Summer of '17. > Thoughts? I've been interested in WW1 aircraft in a moderately intense manner for about 25 years now. Way, way beack when I started I was given to understand that the first German "fighter" aircraft tended to be unmarked at all - it being reasonably obvious who was who when they were allotted in penny packets to 2-seater formations - but that when the Jastas were formed the *individuals* started marking their aircraft, partly as a means of personalising their aircraft, then as a way to identify their comrades as formatiosn got bigger. In so far as their were any *unit* markings during this period, it tends to be things like usiing similar "typefaces" for letters, maybe only. dictated by the Jasta painter/signwriters taste. Other methods were things different shaped bands of different coloured tails. *Unit* distinctions like similarly marked tails only really started to spread when formations got large enough to make it necessary to distingusih between Jastas - when JG-1 was formed. And even then, the unit markings were dictated not by HQ but at JG level - look at the way JG-2 markings changed when the leaders changed - or Jasta level. In short - as this theory is at least as old as my interest (and probably *much* older), you surely seem to have discovered it again Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:12:56 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Seeking Jasta 30 Albs & Pfalzs Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621B0B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Shane the illiterate says: >(incredible amounts of typos) OH NO ! Interdigital interface errors ....I hope the guts of the post is still clear. Apologies for sending before I'd read it through :-( Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:30:29 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Seeking Jasta 30 Albs & Pfalzs Message-ID: <8.b4a189c.2713f565@aol.com> Stef writes: << Thanks for the bibliography. < snip > I wonder what the Albatros photos in the Datafiles you mention show.>> - Datafile 1, pg. 5 is just a well-known picture of Bertrab's D.III, fuselage etc. appears to be painted all in one solid colour. - Datafile 21, pg. 12 has three J30 Pfalz pfotos: 1) side view of Marwitz's machine, with the orange (RR calls it chrome yellow?) diamond on the fuselage and at least the vertical surfaces of the tail/rudder are painted the same colour with some dark-coloured edging. Cant be certain about the spinner, but if you forced me to make a call, I'd say unpainted. 2) crash pic of a Pfalz D.III with very interesting underside detail revealed - the horizonal surfaces of the tail had one huge diamond, running from the tip of one end of the tailplane to the tip of the other. Presumably, this was in the same orange/yellow colour as on the other plane. 3) pic of three Pfalz D.IIIs in front of their hangar - a real smorgasbord here. One has a winding ribbon-type stripe which appears to be black, but could be something else for the well-known film effect reasons. A second has about six black (?) bands around the rear half of the fuselage, and the third onw has the diamond on the side of the fuselage right under the cockpit, as described in the first picture, above. Again, the spinner is light in colour and does not look painted. The other two airplanes are a bit further away so it isnt as clear and I am less certain about their spinners. - Datafile 21, pg.13 - two photos of a Pfalz (also profiled on back cover) with the orange diamond on fuselage. Long stripes running the length of the fuselage, from nose to the beginning of the tail surfaces, all of which appear to be painted white. From looking at it, I believe the base colour is the standard silbergrau, and the black stripes have been painted over, but the profile is quite a bit darker than that. Finally, one more distant pic of Jasta 30 airfield with a scattering of Pfalzes. As with the pic you described, there seems to be little or no consistency in their markings, aside from the orange diamonds on at least two of them. - Datafile #21, pg.14 - three pics of individual Pfalzes, all three with the orange diamond and at least one reveals the diamond under the tailplane, too. One appears to have an unpainted spinner, one appears to be painted a darker shade than the fuselage (perhaps orange?) and the third is facing away so you cannot see the spinner. << A photo of a J5 line-up in CC (US), bibliographic data not to hand, also shows inconsistent application of the green tail, and several photos at the beginning of "The Circus" suggest that prior to inclusion in JG I, J4 and J10 aircraft also lack their usual unit markings. As the Jasta were just in the process of being formed in the Spring, I am beginning to think that consistent use of unit markings only occurred as a consequence of the example of JG1 and the leadership of MvR in the mid- to late Summer of '17. Thoughts? >> There are lots of cases of markings being applied when a new person comes in charge. On a more daily basis, I have to believe that painting these things was pretty low on the priority list and was done on a "if we get to it" basis. Lots of cases of pilots taking brush in hand and painting their own markings because mechanics have more urgent things to take care of, too. My thoughts? Nothing too profound - I just think the whole markings thing was less orderly and consistent that we would like it to be. HTH Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 02:16:53 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard Fokker DVIII - a review Message-ID: <65.abad8f9.27140e55@aol.com> In a message dated 10/9/00 7:57:44 PM EST, NodalPoint@aol.com writes: << What's the URL for your web site. Also, what markings are included with the Flashback kit? >> Flashback kit has markings for Osterkamp's bumblebee - with the fuselage stripes. No lozenge decals. It's the plane he flew in the Freikorps in the fighting in 1919 in the Baltics. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:55:12 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New cook-up preferences Message-ID: <39E2BD50.8F3DD73F@bg.am.lodz.pl> Witold Kozakiewicz napisał(a): I've updated list. There are only 40 votes here, while on the quizlet page over 100. More representative would be if you simply add your name to the list BTW: I voted and I was 101 with 50% support for Sopwith. We are winning :-) (But if we loose I have something for Nieuport cook-up as well - I like both projects but Sopwith more) Sopwith: 1. Shane Weier 2. Ernest Thomas 3. Tom Cleaver 4. Michael S. Alvarado 5. Paul A. Schwartzkopf 6. Bob Pearson 7. Tom Solinski 8. Cameron Rile 9. John (pugs99@att.net) 10. Merrill 11. David Burke 12. Witold Kozakiewicz 13. Brad & Merville 14. Mark Miller 15. Sandy Adam 16. Dave Zulis 17. Paul Thompson 18. Peter Leonard 19. Mark Shannon 20. Lorna Jenkins 21. Eric Hight 22. Candice Uhlir 23. Morten Tyllstrom 24. Dave Fletcher Nieuport: 1. Alberto Casirati 2. Tomasz Gronczewski 3. Dale Beamish 4. Diego 5. Matt Bittner 6. Mike F. 7. Ozaki Hirohisa 8. Dan 9. Dale Sebring 10. Mark V. 11. Ken Acosta 12. Sharon Henderson 13. David Calhoun 14. Charlie Duckworth 15. Limon3 16. Nigel Rayner When shall we close the voting list? I agree that not all of us have finished Albartos but I think we can think about next project. And March 2001 as final date can be little to short for such big cookup - I have 2 but plan to get 3 more Sopwith so 1 month - 1 Sopwith could be little to short :-)), OTOH that long winter evenings... But it is only my opinion. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:43:03 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: attaching that second wing... Message-ID: <00d101c0328d$b8c3ef80$320106c0@acasirat> There are at least two different ways of doing this: the first one - after drilling all struts location points, interplane struts are glued, checking their alignment carefully; - the top wing is then glued over them, again checking alignment; - fuselage struts are added. the second one - fuselage struts are added, checking their alignment carefully; - the top wing is placed above them and its alignment is checked. If the struts arrangement does not allow for the wing to stay in place by itself (as on the Hanriot Hd.1, for example), small balsa wood blocks can be used to support it in the correct position. If all is true, small drops of cianoacrylate glue are placed at the struts-wing contact points, by means of a section of thin stretched sprue; - interplane struts and additional fuselage struts are then inserted and glued. Personally, I prefer the second method, for 3 main reasons: - fuselage struts are shorter, therefore they are stronger; - if something goes wrong, it is easier to replace fuselage struts than interplane struts, as it is easier to work on the fuselage than on the wings, especially in 1/72nd scale and on vacs; - interplane struts are often 4 or 8 separate pieces, while on many aeroplanes (such as Nieuports, Hanriots, Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutters etc.) fuselage struts are joint, thus making correct alignment easier. Just my approach, of course. All the very best, Alberto Casirati ----- Original Message ----- From: "Xoty Xot" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:43 AM Subject: attaching that second wing... > All right, for me the most frustrating thing about > making a bi or tri-plane is the attachment of the top > wings. Getting all the struts in the right holes, > getting the wing straight, etc. I was wondering what > techniques you all use to get those things on and > aligned. > > > I appreciate the help. > > R-- > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:45:42 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: RR Eagle rotation again Message-ID: <02cb01c032a2$0bb86ae0$1d2ad7d2@charls> > For the Falcon nearly >all were Right hand tractors, but 62 were left hand tractors. >This makes me wonder why they did this, and also which >aircraft had left hand Falcons? /Neil > They would have been for use in the Southern Hemisphere. :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:07:51 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re:Laced Fabric Message-ID: <02cc01c032a2$0cb2a960$1d2ad7d2@charls> >Was the laced up fabric covering the fuselages & naceles of many OT planes >the same as the flying surfaces, a heavier grade of linen or something >closer to "canvas"? As no-one has provided the answer consider this: ot aircraft (1930s) with laced fabric that I've worked on use the same fabric for the lace-up areas as they use on the rest. By the time you get a few coats of dope onto it, it has that stiff "canvas" appearance that we see in OT photos. David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:22:16 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Re:Laced Fabric Message-ID: <007d01c032a3$f6921240$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> This discussion about laced fabric sections made me remember that most of the 1/72 kits that I remember have unadequate detail on laced sections, and it needs to be replaced. Has any listee any pet method to scratchbuilt the sections and replace the oversized zigzags molded on the fuselages? The answer will be particularly useful in the event of a Nieuport or Sopwith Cook Up, isn't it? D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:54:14 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New cook-up preferences Message-ID: <200010100754_MC2-B658-FB28@compuserve.com> Let me add my name to the Nieuport group but also concur with several members: Either one is great. Both subjects offer many variations in both scales. And the March date is a good one. That will allow everyone to finish the Albatros, savor it and then move on to the next build. This has been a fun project and I think a big THANK YOU is due cam for all of the work of organizing this into something that can be enjoyed by all. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 10/8/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:07:10 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New cook-up preferences Message-ID: <200010101206.FAA22736@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:04:56 -0400 (EDT), David Fleming wrote: > Nieuport - amongst my favourite aeroplanes, fewer kits, lots of nice colour > schemes (RFC in 2-colour, 5-colour, silver, PC-10 & CDL), lots of > conversions. (Mischevious thought - don't all Nieuports look the same ?) As much as all Canadians look the same. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:53:51 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Cook-up WWI digest 2704 Message-ID: Since I'm still slogging on the old cook-up, I guess my vote don't count fer much. for what it's worth put me down for Sopwith (only because I have a Smer 48th scale tripe that's coming along nicely thankyou very much. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:34:37 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New cook-up preferences Message-ID: <39E30CDC.D4F636F4@dial.pipex.com> Matt Bittner wrote: > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:04:56 -0400 (EDT), David Fleming wrote: > > > Nieuport - amongst my favourite aeroplanes, fewer kits, lots of nice colour > > schemes (RFC in 2-colour, 5-colour, silver, PC-10 & CDL), lots of > > conversions. (Mischevious thought - don't all Nieuports look the same ?) > > As much as all Canadians look the same. ;-) > Don't know, never seen a Canadian in the flesh !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:35:49 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New cook-up preferences Message-ID: <39E30D25.1E7018E9@dial.pipex.com> Slipping off the fence, add me to the Neiuport vote, I've found an interesting kit to make !! David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:06:09 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: New update Message-ID: <200010101305.GAA17761@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Well, whatever was wrong last week worked itself out, so I can once again update the site. I have added a new model by Michael Kendix to his area. Excellent model, Michael! Job well done! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:24:59 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: New update Message-ID: <00a901c032bd$7dd6a2c0$320106c0@acasirat> What a nice model, Michael ! Well done ! Alberto Casirati ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:11 PM Subject: New update > Well, whatever was wrong last week worked itself out, so I can once > again update the site. > > I have added a new model by Michael Kendix to his area. Excellent > model, Michael! Job well done! > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:22:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New update Message-ID: <200010101322.JAA04480@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Matt, You had a Cauldron Photos page that was not on the main index. I added it and added some photos that Michael Kendix sent me. FYI, Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2707 **********************