WWI Digest 2697 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Next Cook-up, again. by ERIC HIGHT 2) Re: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron by "Bob Pearson" 3) Re: Fokker B.II by Dennis Ugulano 4) Re: Next Cook-up by Dennis Ugulano 5) RE: MvR's 425/17 by "Gaston Graf" 6) Re: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron by KarrArt@aol.com 7) RE: putting decals on with Future by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 8) Re: putting decals on with Future by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 9) Re: Fokker B.II by "Dale Sebring" 10) Canadian Sopwith Strutter Profiles by "Laskodi" 11) Re: Canadian Sopwith Strutter Profiles by "Bob Pearson" 12) Re: Taube kits by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 13) RE: putting decals on with Future by "Michael Kendix" 14) Re: Taube kits by "Michael Kendix" 15) Re: putting decals on with Future by Witold Kozakiewicz 16) Re: Taube kits by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 17) Re: Next Cook-up, again. by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: Ernie's pup by Ernest Thomas 19) FWAAAHH! A reason for labels... by "DAVID BURKE" 20) RE: FWAAAHH! A reason for labels... by "Gaston Graf" 21) Re: Taube kits by Ernest Thomas 22) Looking for part of a 1/48 Pfalz decal sheet by Dan 23) Re: FWAAAHH! A reason for labels... by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 24) Elementary Chem Lab, was, FWAAAHH!...labels... by "Stefen Karver" 25) Re: Next Cook-up, again. by "Michael S. Alvarado" 26) Jasta Colors: Who, What, and When? by "Stefen Karver" 27) Subject lines by smperry@mindspring.com 28) Re: Next Cook-up by Paul A Schwartzkopf 29) Re: Tommy Morse on Floats by smperry@mindspring.com 30) That F.1 Cowl, was, Re: Roseplane... F.1... by "Stefen Karver" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:46:28 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Next Cook-up, again. Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20001006114628.00a472b4@pop.amug.org> thanks merrill and we also have a swallow. eric At 02:02 PM 10/6/00 -0400, you wrote: >You forgot Eric's strutter (go check out Jack Gartners at the site) >Merrill > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 11:51:33 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron Message-ID: <200010061902.MAA31694@mail.rapidnet.net> They're 8' from you, silly Bob ---------- >From: KarrArt@aol.com > Heck- all my references are about 8' from where I'm typing this, and I STILL > don't know where they are. > RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:51:58 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Fokker B.II Message-ID: <200010061452_MC2-B60A-D24@compuserve.com> Dale S, >> but I have Harleyfords Bomber & Recon Aircraft with some pics of the B-II that you are wecome to. << That would be great. I have the Harleyford Fighters book and it shows a few photos. I'm really curious about the A-H shot in the instructions. The photo is so dark its impossible to tell what color the plane could even possibly be. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 9/24/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:51:55 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Next Cook-up Message-ID: <200010061452_MC2-B60A-D22@compuserve.com> >> However, I think it would work better if it was a Morane Sauce on the side. ;-) << I think a nice New Port Wine would go good with it. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 9/24/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 21:04:15 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: MvR's 425/17 Message-ID: John, I'm to short on time to write more now but you can find some pics of the famous 425/17 at my website. Go to the ACES section and click on the link to Manfred von Richthofen. best regards Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > John_Impenna@hyperion.com > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 4:58 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re:MvR's 425/17 > > > > > Hi Folks, > I am planning this as future project and have started gathering > references. I > checked the archives, but so many hits came back that I figured > it's easier to > just ask: was this tripe overall red?? I have read one or two > sources that say > it may have had lt. blue undersides to the wings and tail? Of > course that same > reference showed a picture of the borrowed black and white > striped tail bird as > 425/17!! Did this plane carry the Eiserne kreuz on white squares > before being > painted over with Balken kreuzes??? I am gathering as much info > as possible > before making a final decision as to what scheme I am going to do > this bird in. > I also thought that there are still pieces of this one somewhere. Any > references to photos would be appreciated!!! > > Oh--by the way--anyone know anything about Voss's > cowl............: ) : o) : > 0 ) > > Regards, > John > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:04:48 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron Message-ID: <81.11fd1c9.270f7c50@aol.com> In a message dated 10/6/00 11:52:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bpearson@rapidnet.net writes: << They're 8' from you, silly Bob >> yeah, but in which dimension? the 4th? 5th? 11th? RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 21:38:31 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: putting decals on with Future Message-ID: Michael > Anumber of folks described how they adhered decals by putting them on top of > wet Future. I'm among them. > I wonder if someone could explain this in some detail. For > example, explain if or with what the Future is thinned, how much Future you > use, It depends on decal brand. If it is Aeromaster type, I mix 1/3 Future + 1/3 white alcohol + 1/3 MicroSOL or AeroSOL. If it is early Eduard type, which is extremely fragile, I mix 1/3 Future + 2/3 white alcohol and no solving solution at all. Warning: DO NOT allow AeroSET or MicroSET to contact with wet Future!!! It will cause strange chemical reaction which will destroy Future. If I were you I would forget about any vinegar acid based setting solutions at all. > how you manage it without making a huge mess, how do you slide the > decal in place without making finger prints in the Future. I pour a spot of the mixture onto a model surface, and slide dissolved decal with a soft brush WITHOUT touching anything with fingers. After Future mixture has dried I can touch decal with fingers, and treat it with Microsol or Aerosol. Then I apply thin layer of Future onto the entire model, make weathering and apply Future + Aeromaster Flat Clear varnish mixture. Besides my cookup Albatrosen, see Bishop's Nieuport XVII on my site www.tmg.obywatel.pl. These models have already survived this "risky" method without any harm. :o) Also you can look at my off topic Hasegawa Hurricane presented there. Although most insignias have been painted using vinyl masks, the 303rd badge, serial number and stenciling have been applied using the "wet Future" method. > All this would be so much easier if say, Witold (who I know does this), > could just pop over from Lodz to my place for evening and demonstrate in > person:). LOL! Possible but expensive. Try to negotiate details with him ;o)))) Tomasz ___________________________________________________________ Latwy dostep, przyjazna nawigacja, 12 MB pojemnosci. Pewna i bezpieczna poczta na lata. http://poczta.interia.pl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:41:15 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: putting decals on with Future Message-ID: Howdy! Here is what I do: Pop the decal to be used into the water. Now, using fresh Future, not something you transfered to a more convienient container last winter, apply a thin coat to the area to receive the decal. With the Future still wet and the decal ready to slide off postion decal over model. Apply decal as if the Future isn't there. Once the decal is applied and before anything dries apply a second coat of Future over the decal. This makes a Future sandwich with the decal being the meat. I usually apply most of the decals in one session. After the decals and Future dry over night I give the model a complete coat of Future using an airbrush. This will give the model a uniform appearance. Otherwise the areas you Future'd will look darker. Again, let dry overnight. Now that the model is sealed I hit it with Acryl Dullcoat for weathering, but this is up to you. Pastels will not stick to the slick, glossy Future finish. Does that help? I don't know what to thin Future with. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:20:54 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Fokker B.II Message-ID: <001501c02fd2$eef2c8a0$9bb58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Ugulano" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Fokker B.II Hi Dennis, Send me your address off list and I will mail you a copy of the B-II pictures I have. Dale S. > Dale S, > > >> but I have Harleyfords Bomber & Recon Aircraft > with some pics of the B-II that you are wecome to. << > > That would be great. I have the Harleyford Fighters book and it > shows a few photos. I'm really curious about the A-H shot in the > instructions. The photo is so dark its impossible to tell what color the > plane could even possibly be. > > Any information will be greatly appreciated. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm > Page Revised 9/24/00 > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:55:18 -0700 From: "Laskodi" To: "Post WW1 List" Subject: Canadian Sopwith Strutter Profiles Message-ID: <000901c02fd7$bc89de80$533819d0@laskodi> I am building the CSM Sopwith Strutter for a museum and need to do it in markings of any Canadian pilot, or Squadron. I know Collishaw flew the Strutter with 3 RNAS but cannot locate a profile for that aircraft. Are there any profiles of Canadian flown Strutters anywhere? TIA ----------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 14:06:18 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Canadian Sopwith Strutter Profiles Message-ID: <200010062117.OAA04029@mail.rapidnet.net> Almost all of the 3 Wing strutters I profiled were flown by Canadians. . these are on my website http://members.nbci.com/Sopwth_5F1 and CD .. those on the website are the older watercolours, the CD has all new computer profiles .. My favourite is 9739 flown by Redpath .. however there are also ones flown by Sharman and Collishaw on the pages. There is also the article I wrote for OTF on 3 Wing .. this has 20+ profiles and writeups and is in issue 13/4 .. and on their website sans profiles at http://www.overthefront.com Bob ---------- >From: "Laskodi" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Canadian Sopwith Strutter Profiles >Date: Fri, Oct 6, 2000, 1:59 pm > > I am building the CSM Sopwith Strutter for a museum and need to do it in > markings of any Canadian pilot, or Squadron. I know Collishaw flew the > Strutter with 3 RNAS but cannot locate a profile for that aircraft. Are > there any profiles of Canadian flown Strutters anywhere? > TIA > ----------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 08:26:20 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Taube kits Message-ID: <39DE518C.F6B6F111@tac.com.au> Just in case you haven't looked it up as yet, anyone wishing to model the A/H Taube as seen on Bob's CD and in the FMP book (72.02) will be modelling a Taube converted for military use by the works at Fischamend. The differences are: A new engine (85hp Hieronymus) was put in..... the fuselage forward of the cockpit is a slab-sided affair rather than the rounded shape of the Etrich Taube.... the cockpit is moved up... the undercarriage is different and now has 4 wheels. Grab the vacform kit and have at it. If you'd like this bird in 1/48 then your only recourse is to do a major kit conversion of the Flashback kit. Still it's a lovely looking plane and those A/H markings... Lorna Michael Kendix wrote: > > >From: "dfernet0" > > > >I saw the red/white taube on an APMA magazine article. Ask the >Jenkins for > >these. And sorry, I think that none of those models is >that kind of > >dove... altough the Airframe vac is more suitable to >conversion. IIRC the > >austrian bird had one of those squarish cowl >sections. > >D. > >proud owner of two uncompleted taubes since 1999. > >PS: Do you have "Dove of War"? > > > > Diego: > > Yes, I have do but I am too lazy and incompetent to look it up, plus I'm at > work and this is as good a diversion as any. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:33:53 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: putting decals on with Future Message-ID: >From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" >>All this would be so much easier if say, Witold (who I know does >>this), >>could just pop over from Lodz to my place for evening and >>demonstrate in >>person:). > >LOL! Possible but expensive. Try to negotiate details with him ;o)))) > Tomasz: I think I confused yourself and Witold for obvious reasons:). Thanks very much for the explanation. Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 21:42:08 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Taube kits Message-ID: >From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins ... >Grab the vacform kit and have at it. Lorna/Shane: Many thanks. I will not attempt the conversion since by the time I've messed around with the fuselage, I may as well do a scratchbuild. But I appreciate the note. Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 00:19:45 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: putting decals on with Future Message-ID: <39DE5001.5E4DA2B0@bg.am.lodz.pl> Michael Kendix napisał(a): > > Anumber of folks described how they adhered decals by putting them on top of > wet Future. I wonder if someone could explain this in some detail. For > example, explain if or with what the Future is thinned, how much Future you > use, how you manage it without making a huge mess, how do you slide the > decal in place without making finger prints in the Future. > > All this would be so much easier if say, Witold (who I know does this), > could just pop over from Lodz to my place for evening and demonstrate in > person:). Michael, I'd love to visit you, but I would have to take Tom Gronczewski with me. He is the one who wet decals in future mixed with Sol and clean alcohol. That is very interesting, I saw his models with decals put that way - perfect, no sign of silvering. I've tried once on my just finished ot model. I used Polish Future like liquid mixed with Sol and it worked - even on matt surface. I think we could see each other very soon, look few years ago I even didn't know how internet can help in modeling or other things, today we have simple video meetings and who knows, maybe in two, three years we could see how Bob makes his next profile, Tom G. mixes future, Tom C. writes his next review, Alberto prepares new buckles for seatbelts, Otis paints next fantastic plywood on Albatros and all live on your computer.... -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 09:29:35 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Taube kits Message-ID: <39DE605F.60E2EC72@tac.com.au> Michael Kendix wrote: > Many thanks. I will not attempt the conversion since by the time I've > messed around with the fuselage, I may as well do a scratchbuild. But I > appreciate the note. but you still have to get the wing from somewhere and it might as well be the Airframe vac which is the best part of the kit really, albeit fiddly. I will do this conversion one day ... hell, I'm going to build ALL my stash eventually ;-) Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 18:11:14 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Next Cook-up, again. Message-ID: <39DE5C11.CE3FC3BA@bellsouth.net> TomTheAeronut@aol.com wrote: > Sop-with! SOP-with!! SOP-WITH!!! All together now.... SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH!!!! Thanks for all the offers for scans, guys. The pictures are on the way to (drom roll please pfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfp........ Mr Len Endy! (DA DAAAHHH!!!!!) Again, thank you everyone for the offers. Tom, I sent em to Len first thing this morning because his offer didn't involve having to scrounge up and size a cardboard stiffener while trying to rush off to work. If you're really just crushed about it, I promise you can scan the next cook-up pictures for me. :-[) E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 18:22:14 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ernie's pup Message-ID: <39DE5EA6.CD0DCC4F@bellsouth.net> dfernet0 wrote: > Ernest! > I know wich checkered Pup you're talkjing about! That's a great scheme to > model... go for it! Wich kit of Pup do you have? Actually, I love em both. I've got the original Edweird kit. E. blue or black, blue or black? decisions decisions..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:22:37 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: FWAAAHH! A reason for labels... Message-ID: <001b01c02fec$53207fc0$bc8eaec7@com> Well, I did something less than brilliant. I was breaking down my VL for cleaning. I am priming the SPAD VII and A-2 resin kits and need to get a good, fine line from my VL to highlight the wing ribs and fuselage before painting. So I needed a jar to soak the parts in Lacquer thinner. Found a jar with a little bit of liquid in it. Thought it was lac thinner. The jar was sealed. So I unscrewed the lid and took a whiff... WOOF! Yup, lac thinner alright. Thinner that had been sealed in a jar in a warm room for months so that much of it had evaporated and had formed a thick cloud of vapor. Burned the hell out of my nose and made me feel all funky. Would you expect less from anyone else? DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 01:32:45 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: FWAAAHH! A reason for labels... Message-ID: Now we fully understand why you write such ... ehmmm... rather *strange* comments sometimes. Looks like something chewed up your brain in some way ;o). Don't worry - things will get better through the years. Time heals everything. Oh and remember to put on your *gasmask* next time before dipping your nose into unexplored openings :oP tataaaaaaaaaaaaaa...... Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > DAVID BURKE > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 1:29 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: FWAAAHH! A reason for labels... > > > Well, I did something less than brilliant. > > I was breaking down my VL for cleaning. I am priming the SPAD VII and > A-2 resin kits and need to get a good, fine line from my VL to > highlight the > wing ribs and fuselage before painting. So I needed a jar to > soak the parts > in Lacquer thinner. > > Found a jar with a little bit of liquid in it. Thought it was lac > thinner. The jar was sealed. So I unscrewed the lid and took a whiff... > > > WOOF! > > Yup, lac thinner alright. Thinner that had been sealed in a jar in a > warm room for months so that much of it had evaporated and had formed a > thick cloud of vapor. Burned the hell out of my nose and made me feel all > funky. > > Would you expect less from anyone else? > > > DB > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 18:37:58 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Taube kits Message-ID: <39DE6256.10AEA8B6@bellsouth.net> Michael Kendix wrote: > Many thanks. I will not attempt the conversion since by the time I've > messed around with the fuselage, I may as well do a scratchbuild. But I > appreciate the note. You could always do what I'm planning. Stick a chicken bone in your beard and shout "Dicta Ira", and put the red & white bands on the kit as it is oob. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 19:49:44 -0400 From: Dan To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Looking for part of a 1/48 Pfalz decal sheet Message-ID: <39DE6517.A31915A9@mindspring.com> I'm almost done with Eduard's very nice Pfalz DIIIa kit, but I've run into a problem. The orange diamonds that are part of Bethge's livery are unfortunately somewhat translucent, so the the grey stripes beneath are very obvious. I've tried printing out a white diamond to serve as a sub-layer, but it's only been a partial success. Now I'd like to try putting one diamond atop the other, and see if that works. Would anyone who's built either the Profipack (8045) or the other version (8044) be willing to let me have their unused orange diamonds? I'd be happy to pay a fair price, plus postage. Please let me know off-list, thanks. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:49:48 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: FWAAAHH! A reason for labels... Message-ID: In a message dated 10/6/00 6:26:19 PM EST, dora9@sprynet.com writes: << Burned the hell out of my nose and made me feel all funky. Would you expect less from anyone else? >> As the funkiest guy on the list, it couldn't have been anyone else!! :-) TC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:28:40 -0400 From: "Stefen Karver" To: Subject: Elementary Chem Lab, was, FWAAAHH!...labels... Message-ID: <018e01c02fe4$c90a0560$a96dd6d8@stephen> When using the schnaz-ometer to test the identity of unknown and potentially toxic chemicals, it is a wise precaution to uncap the container at some distance from the instrument and using a free hand waft the vapors in the direction of the intake ports. Although a low-tech device, it is quite sensitive, and a few molecules of the volatiles will be sufficient to make the identification. Stef ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID BURKE" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 7:29 PM Subject: FWAAAHH! A reason for labels... | Well, I did something less than brilliant. | | I was breaking down my VL for cleaning. I am priming the SPAD VII and | A-2 resin kits and need to get a good, fine line from my VL to highlight the | wing ribs and fuselage before painting. So I needed a jar to soak the parts | in Lacquer thinner. | | Found a jar with a little bit of liquid in it. Thought it was lac | thinner. The jar was sealed. So I unscrewed the lid and took a whiff... | | | WOOF! | | Yup, lac thinner alright. Thinner that had been sealed in a jar in a | warm room for months so that much of it had evaporated and had formed a | thick cloud of vapor. Burned the hell out of my nose and made me feel all | funky. | | Would you expect less from anyone else? | | | DB | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 20:05:53 -0400 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Next Cook-up, again. Message-ID: <39DE68E1.68287ECE@bellatlantic.net> I vote for Sopwith as well as I just this very minute got the Blue Max Sopwith Dolphin I ordered from SMO last Thurday night. Alvie Ernest Thomas wrote: > TomTheAeronut@aol.com wrote: > > > Sop-with! SOP-with!! SOP-WITH!!! > > All together now.... > > SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH SOPWITH!!!! > > Thanks for all the offers for scans, guys. The pictures are on the way to > (drom roll please > pfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfpfp........ > > Mr Len Endy! (DA DAAAHHH!!!!!) > > Again, thank you everyone for the offers. > Tom, I sent em to Len first thing this morning because his offer didn't > involve having to scrounge up and size a cardboard stiffener while trying to > rush off to work. > If you're really just crushed about it, I promise you can scan the next > cook-up pictures for me. > :-[) > > E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:50:15 -0400 From: "Stefen Karver" To: Subject: Jasta Colors: Who, What, and When? Message-ID: <01e201c02fe7$cc839460$a96dd6d8@stephen> Good day, List experten-- Can one or more of you provide a brief summary of the history of applying unit colors in the German Imperial Air Service, or an accessible source fir such a history? I am particularly interested in details about when they began to be used and under what circumstances, how rapid and widespread their adoption was, and, conversely, examples of noncompliance and nonconformity. TIA to all and regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:32:06 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Subject lines Message-ID: <003501c02ff6$08024280$54f0aec7@default> John observes: '...but so many hits came back that I figured it's easier to just ask:...' This is an excellent reason to change the Subject Line as a thread begins to mature and branch. From time to time, I've followed several treads all with the same subject line and none of them any longer related to that original subject line. sp Tripping as he dismounts his soap box. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:35:00 -0500 From: Paul A Schwartzkopf To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Next Cook-up Message-ID: <20001006.193501.-16599291.0.plschwartzkopf@juno.com> Sopwith, Sopwith, Sopwith! (Any type that a Canadian lumberjack who sleeps all night and works all day would be proud to fly in.) Paul > You can have Eggs and Spad, etc, etc, etc < ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:40:24 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Re: Tommy Morse on Floats Message-ID: <005701c02ff7$2e9de060$54f0aec7@default> I just received the following response from the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola. Thought I'd pass it along sp > Your request of 10-02-00 refers > > 1.Do not have any color photos of this aircraft. > > 2.Restoration, drawings & construction was done > by Mr. Howard Wells, 25402 Avenida Cappela, > Valencia, CA 91355. > > 3.Floats do not have any metal coverings. > > 4.USMC Globe & Anchor is of the original > 1918-1922 design, ( red outer, blue middle, > white center roundels with bronze eagle & > anchor, accented with white. > > Ken synder sends ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:55:09 -0400 From: "Stefen Karver" To: Subject: That F.1 Cowl, was, Re: Roseplane... F.1... Message-ID: <026901c02ff0$de344d40$a96dd6d8@stephen> I have looked at the photographs of the Rosemont conversion resin cowl on their site and cannot see in the casting (even in extreme blow-up) what I see in the best photograph of 103/17 (the one with full length portrait of Voss): a longer (deeper) faceplate that is bent back on its lower edge with a simplified geometry to the way the surround curves back to the firewall. The distance between the prop shaft hole and the lower edge of the faceplate on 103/17 is definitely greater than on the production type, and this doesn't seem in evidence on the Rosemont casting. Are the photographs of the conversion cowl at fault?. Stef ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:22 PM Subject: Roseplane Fokker F.1 conversion | It just got here (for the 1/48 kit). You get the new horizontal | stab/elevators, cowling, and ailerons, and a small decal sheet with all three | serial numbers and the Voss face. This looks really excellent, beautiful | casting, and I have already pulled out the DML kit! Buy yourself a few of | these. | | Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2697 **********************