WWI Digest 2695

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Photographing models - Wrong Info
	by Lee Mensinger <lemen@x25.net>
  2) Re: The Voss deal-BS
	by Mike Kavanaugh <mikekavana@earthlink.net>
  3) Re: Photographing models - Wrong Info
	by NodalPoint@aol.com
  4) OT movie news and reliable rumors
	by TomTheAeronut@aol.com
  5) Re: The Voss deal-BS
	by Mike Kavanaugh <mikekavana@earthlink.net>
  6) Re: Next Cook-up, again.
	by "Alberto Casirati" <ammi-alme@unicalce.it>
  7) Re: Next Cook-up, again.
	by Witold Kozakiewicz <witk@bg.am.lodz.pl>
  8) Re: How many WWI modellers does it take......
	by "Nigel Rayner" <nigel@rosnar.freeserve.co.uk>
  9) Re: Club displays
	by David Fleming <dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com>
 10) RE: Next Cook-up, again.
	by "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
 11) Re: Next Cook-up, again.
	by "Dale Beamish" <lozenge1@telusplanet.net>
 12) RE: Xmas 1914
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 13) RE: Next Cook-up, again.
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 14) RE: How many WWI modellers does it take......
	by "Gaston Graf" <ggraf@vo.lu>
 15) Re: Next Cook-up, again.
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 16) Re: Next Cook-up, again.
	by Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
 17) Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 18) Re: Next Cook-up, again.
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 19) RE: How many WWI modellers does it take......
	by "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 20) RE: How many WWI modellers does it take......
	by Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
 21) RE: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 22) Re: Cook-up pictures need scanning.
	by Dan <mig15@mindspring.com>
 23) RE: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
 24) Web Update
	by Allan Wright <aew>
 25) Re: Fokker DVII?
	by "Ken Acosta" <kacosta@colsa.com>
 26) Fokker B.II
	by Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
 27) RE: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 28) Re: Photographing models - Wrong Info
	by "Jeffery Harrison" <karaya@ktn.net>
 29) Ernie's pup
	by "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
 30) Re: Taube kits
	by Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu

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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 00:39:16 -0500
From: Lee Mensinger <lemen@x25.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Photographing models - Wrong Info
Message-ID: <39DD6583.BE6C65D9@x25.net>

Thank you Steve.

Since all f stops are calculated mathematically by dividing the lense focal
length, in mm,  by the diameter of the iris opening, in mm, it is always a
direct component of the focal length and you are 100% correct a wide angle at the
same f stop has greater depth of field at a given opening than a long focal
length lens.  It has been this way since I started taking pictures before 1940.

My teacher was and early graduate of the Kodak School of Photography and he had a
degree in the art as well.

That is partly why Digitals are pretty good with depth of field.  The lenses are
very short.  Even when they are telephoto.  They do respond a bit better.  But
the CCD has been a problem mostly because of cost.

Circles of confusion, the planes of critical focus, and the other stuff is darn
near impossible to pass on even when you do understand the math and what it says.
I will never say I really do understand it.  But I do know what it means.

Many believe that when they focus the lense they are focusing on the spot out
front when the actual focus area is behind the lense and on the film plane.  With
an SLR the mirror is the replacement for the film plane, and, makes photographic
things easier to live with.

The Digital actually disturbs my mind and I have not yet learned to relate to all
that is happening.

I have always set the camera at the hyperfocal distance for a good f stop and
speed combo while just walking around.  I can snap shoot at any accident or
incident with out thinking,  just to get a picture, right that instant.

Hyperfocal works in other ways as well..

I know Mike Kavanaugh and I may be able to meet with him and be of some help.  He
and I belong to the same model club in San Antonio.

Emnjoyed you comments.  I am also available if anyone wants to chat about
photography.  I am not a professional photographer, but, a Weather Forecaster.
But I did learn how to do it.  My composition may be rotten but the technique is
pretty darn good.

Thanks again.  Appreciated your comments.  that is the way Ilearned it too.

Lee M.
New Braunfels, TX.

NodalPoint@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 10/5/00 2:55:50 PM EST, karaya@ktn.net writes:
>
> Jeff writes;
>
> << Your specific camera is going to limit what you can do in photographing
> your
>  models. It has a 35mm - 105mm zoom lens with a fixed aperture. Pentax says
>  that the aperture is F4 to F11 (it varies with the focal length of the
>  lens--F4 being at 35mm and F11 at 105mm) with a focus range of 2.15 feet to
>  infinity.  >>
>
> The aperture isn't fixed with the focal length. This would mean a camera that
> is virtually useless if that were true. The aperture is, for the sake of
> argument and simplicity, independent of focal length. I don't own or have
> never used this point and shoot but it would be ridiculous to build a camera
> that fixes the aperture like this. No one would want to buy it.
>
>  <<Depth of
> field is NOT directly related to the focal length of the lens but focal
> length will determine how far away from the model you have to stand--it may
> be 1 foot for the 35mm lens and 6 feet for the 200mm lens but in both cases
> the image size in the view finder will be identical.>>
>
> Not true! Not true! Depth of field is greater with a wide angle lens than it
> is with a telephoto at the same f-stop. Why? I won't even mention planes of
> critical focus, relative aperture, or circles of confusion because, well,
> it's confusing. And pretty boring.
>
> Using a wide angle vs. telephoto for close-up work is much more than just a
> case of having to stand farther back from the subject. A telephoto does a lot
> more than simply "magnify" an image. Think about perspective for instance.
>
> Steve
>
> BTW-You can "extend" depth of field if you use the Hyperfocal Distance as a
> focus point. This is actually a technique some people on the list may want to
> investigate if they don't use it already. If you're not using it, you're not
> getting "maximum" depth of field. And its easy to do if you have a depth of
> field scale on your lens.


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 00:40:53 -0700
From: Mike Kavanaugh <mikekavana@earthlink.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: The Voss deal-BS
Message-ID: <39DD8205.6BBB5D96@earthlink.net>

Steve said:



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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:51:36 EDT
From: NodalPoint@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Photographing models - Wrong Info
Message-ID: <d9.a7a735c.270ec268@aol.com>

In a message dated 10/6/00 0:32:34 AM EST, lemen@x25.net writes:

<< Emnjoyed you comments.  I am also available if anyone wants to chat about
 photography.  I am not a professional photographer, but, a Weather 
Forecaster.
 But I did learn how to do it.  My composition may be rotten but the 
technique is
 pretty darn good.
 
 Thanks again.  Appreciated your comments.  that is the way Ilearned it too.
  >>


Lee,

It seems like a lot of modelers are photo buffs as well. Whoever asked the 
original camera question probably got more info than bargained for! 

But when I need to know what the wind is going to do the next time I go for a 
sail, I'll be sure to get the dope from you first.;)

Steve

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 02:35:13 EDT
From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: OT movie news and reliable rumors
Message-ID: <7e.b295b70.270ecca1@aol.com>

Thought you all might like to know that is is reliably reported that there is 
a production company here in Hollywierd that has the rights to the book and 
is actually about to shell out a low six-figure sum to a screenwriter to 
produce an adaptation of........... (drumroll)

"Goshawk Squadron."

No, it's not me, (unfortunately - I could definitely make use of the cash) 
tho the writer is a good friend and already asked if he could hire me for 
some technical expertise (to which I said yes).  He's an airplane person, tho 
mainly more knowledgeable about the second go-'round, and definitely an 
excellent writer - his first credit was "The Elephant Man."

Sooooo..... who knows?  Maybeperhapspossibly it could be that sometime before 
we all shuffle off this mortal coil, you might see this on your local screen. 
 (But don't go holding your breath - there's still "many a slip twixt the 
tongue and the lip" before it ever gets to the "green light" stage.)

Thought you'd like to know.....

Tom Cleaver
Your Reliable Hollywierd Reporter

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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 01:41:46 -0700
From: Mike Kavanaugh <mikekavana@earthlink.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: The Voss deal-BS
Message-ID: <39DD904A.CC4BE149@earthlink.net>

Steve said:

<<Thanks for "shaming" me in public on the list. I hope it makes you
feel
better about whatever it is that so upset you.

My sincere apology to all offended by my question/comment,
Steve>>

Steve,  No apologies for imagined offenses are necessary on your part.
I apologize for playing the part of the obtuse member that does not
understand why you should be critical of the content of the List
commentary. Any thought of "hate and malice" is in your mind, not mine.
If you knew who I was and my background, you wouldn't be concerned with
a "whoopin".   Additionally, if my comments regarding my postings
bothered you, I would suggest that you re-examine your comments
regarding the continuation of the Voss cowl thread.  As far as I know
every member of this list is entitled to say anything they want to as
long as it's OT,. . . even if it's ad nauseum.  If it's without merit,
it is ignored and dies the death it deserves.  I resent any one telling
me what I should or shouldn't say because it offends their sensitivities
as being meaningless, repetitious and totally without merit, although it
may be all of these.  If your joining the list with your pre-conceived
ideas of how it ought to operate prevails , that's fine.  In that case,
yellow or Green, just color me gone!

Beam me up Scottie, phasing over to the ot alternate universe

Mike K.


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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:02:11 +0200
From: "Alberto Casirati" <ammi-alme@unicalce.it>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up, again.
Message-ID: <001f01c02f63$61de4bc0$320106c0@acasirat>

Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!

Alberto Casirati

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernest Thomas" <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up, again.


>
>
> Shane Weier wrote:
>
> > So why not simply a *Sopwith* cookup. There are plenty of decent kits in
> > both scales, in mainstream and shortrun injection, vacform and resin
>
> Works for me.
> E.
>


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:43:27 +0200
From: Witold Kozakiewicz <witk@bg.am.lodz.pl>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up, again.
Message-ID: <39DD829F.63DAF4DA@bg.am.lodz.pl>



Ernest Thomas napisał(a):
> 
> Shane Weier wrote:
> 
> > So why not simply a *Sopwith* cookup. There are plenty of decent kits in
> > both scales, in mainstream and shortrun injection, vacform and resin
> 
> Works for me.
> E.

And me. Many kits, many markings
1:48 BM Snipe, Dolphin, Camel; Eduard Baby, Pup, Tripe and very soon
Camel, Eric's CSM Dolphin, Snipe, Monogram Camel 
1:72 Esci Camel, Toko and Eduard Strutters, Airfix Pup
That's all I remember.
I have two unbuilt Sopwith planes and plan to buy next two.
If not Sopwith I can agree with Alerto and go for Nieuport with BM
Nie.28 and my latest buy HR model Nie.12 (1/72). And Eduard Nie.11/16
serie. 

Maybe we could wait and see what would Eduard release first. Camel or
Nieuport.

-- 
           Witold Kozakiewicz

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:09:40 +0100
From: "Nigel Rayner" <nigel@rosnar.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: How many WWI modellers does it take......
Message-ID: <001401c02f6d$02ddb980$5f04883e@w1o0t3>

Hi gang,

Just to lighten things up a bit, how's about a thread on this topic, picking
up on Rimell's neat joke in Windsock? Here's a couple of thoughts:

How many WWI modellers does it take to change a light bulb?

Only one, but it takes six months because he realizes it is slightly the
wrong shape so it has to be cut into several parts and reassembled......

or

100 - 1 to change the bulb and 99 to argue about what scale it should be....

or

Only one, but it takes six months because he has to wait until the
"Lightbulb Changing" Datafile is published........

or even

None - it's best to leave them in the dark so they can't see what colour
they're painting Voss's cowl..........(sorry about that)

On a more serious note, more great work on the cookup page. Dale S actually
built the Glencoe kit, and it looks great!

Cheers,

Nigel


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 00:36:58 +0100
From: David Fleming <dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Club displays
Message-ID: <39DD109A.513D417C@dial.pipex.com>



dfernet0 wrote:

> Shaen:
> What about a club display of WW1 captured aircraft? Sopwiths with black
> crosses and Fokkers with roundels? that might appeal curiosity for modelers
> and viewers alike. Plus, you also have a wide variety of planes to work
> with. You also get rid of Manfred's triplane as a must.
> For a diorama, a shed with a ground crew frantically painting and patching a
> captured airplane would be neat! Don't forget the souvenir hunters prowling
> around...
> just my 2 argie cents worth
> D.

Great Idea ! I'm sort of working to that myself ! Mind you, you get more types
with Albatros than Fokker, although E111, EV, DVII.........





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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:25:00 +0200
From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Next Cook-up, again.
Message-ID: <NDBBIELFOLLOBGEOAOAAOEFBCKAA.gronczewski@interia.pl>

Alberto wrote:

>> Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!

O.K. Let's vote:

Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!

Tomasz

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 04:01:46 -0600
From: "Dale Beamish" <lozenge1@telusplanet.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up, again.
Message-ID: <001701c02f7c$7350cfe0$072eb8a1@darcy>

> Alberto wrote:
> 
> >> Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> O.K. Let's vote:
> 
> Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> Tomasz

Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!

Dale


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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:28:08 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Xmas 1914
Message-ID: <00d601c02f84$134436c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Dave
I've seen no pics of it. However, there's a lot of written accounts of the
truce and I even scrounged some from the net (God knows where) It is known
the specific british and german units involved in these truces, so the
uniforms can be represented with some accuracy. IIRC the frenchmen were not
as eager to fraternize with des boches for obvious reasons.
The soldiers exchanged beverages, chocolate, nuts, sang songs and made jokes
to the enemy. Sometimes were the germans the first to appear over the
trenches, some the british. They were a very stressful moment, I may say,
and it must have took guts to appear like that in front of an enemy army.
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: DAVID BURKE <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:36 AM
Subject: Xmas 1914


> Hey Guys,
>
>     About the unofficial Xmas truce in 1914, were there any pics taken?
I'm
> curious as the thought of doing a small vignette of a soccer game between
> the troops has been itching in my brain.  I didn't know if anyone had
> thought to bring a camera along.
>
>     I have to blame some of this on Steve Hustad.  IIRC, it was he who did
> that amazing WWI German trench diorama.  Guys like that put strange ideas
in
> the minds of the less-talented!
>
>     Are there any good written accounts of the Christmas Truce?
>
>
> DB
>


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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:17:33 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Next Cook-up, again.
Message-ID: <00d501c02f84$13197d40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

I fully endorse that!
NIEUPORT, NIEUPORT, NIEUPORT, NIEUPORT!
D.
got the datafiles, got the details sets, got the kits, got the razor saw,
got an empty wallet.

----- Original Message -----
From: Alberto Casirati <ammi-alme@unicalce.it>

> Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Alberto Casirati
>



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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:49:10 +0200
From: "Gaston Graf" <ggraf@vo.lu>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: How many WWI modellers does it take......
Message-ID: <LOBBIAILCFGNOAMLDHEPEEIEDAAA.ggraf@vo.lu>

And how many modelers does it take to KILL one Nigel???
































..... ALL !!! ;o)

btw to stay OT: RECEIVED LATEST NEWS FROM THE HISTORICAL BOELCKE ASSOCIATION
IN GERMANY SAYING THEY FOUND THE SON OF BOELCKES MECHANIC WHO IS STILL ALIVE
AND WHO IS IN POSSESSION OF THE BOARD BOOK OF BOELCKES MASCHINE! ALSO THE
OLD MAN HAS MANY MANY PHOTOGRAPHS !!! That's really thrilling me folks!


> Hi gang,
>
> Just to lighten things up a bit, how's about a thread on this
> topic, picking
> up on Rimell's neat joke in Windsock? Here's a couple of thoughts:
>
> How many WWI modellers does it take to change a light bulb?
>
> Only one, but it takes six months because he realizes it is slightly the
> wrong shape so it has to be cut into several parts and reassembled......
>
> or
>
> 100 - 1 to change the bulb and 99 to argue about what scale it
> should be....
>
> or
>
> Only one, but it takes six months because he has to wait until the
> "Lightbulb Changing" Datafile is published........
>
> or even
>
> None - it's best to leave them in the dark so they can't see what colour
> they're painting Voss's cowl..........(sorry about that)
>
> On a more serious note, more great work on the cookup page. Dale
> S actually
> built the Glencoe kit, and it looks great!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nigel
>


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 07:09:45 -0500
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up, again.
Message-ID: <200010061209.FAA27935@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:13:45 -0400 (EDT), Ernest Thomas wrote:

> So now that I'm finished my c-u tross, I feel able to get into the
> discussion on what the next c-u subject should be.
> I vote for something British. I was just looking at the shelf, and
> noticed that I've got a whole shelf full of Fokkers and Albatrii, and
> another whole shelf full of Neiuports and Spads. I need some PC10 and 12
> here. I've got a DH-5 in progress, but that's not something that
> everyone is likely to have. What about an SE-5? There's currently kits
> available in both scales, with an Eduard promised for the hopefully not
> too distant future.
> Or, we could do a Pup. It's available in both scales, and if we do a
> Pup, I can go ahead with that checker board scheme I fell in love with
> today.

If it had to be British, I opt for the Sopwith Triplane because it
can't be built into French machines.

:-P```


Matt Bittner



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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 07:12:18 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up, again.
Message-ID: <39DDC1A1.3AADDF71@bellsouth.net>



Dale Beamish wrote:

> > Alberto wrote:
> >
> > >> Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > O.K. Let's vote:
> >
> > Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Tomasz
>
> Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!

No-port, No-port, No-port, No-port!!!!!!!!!!!!
E.



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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:12:33 GMT
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron
Message-ID: <F155qGMFnXGThLvY27900009027@hotmail.com>

First, Richard Eaton's Pegasus Taube kit looks excellent; I hope to do half 
as well some day - hence my next question.

I have 2 1/72nd scale Taube kits; one is the Pegasus and the Airframe 
vacuform.  I note that both the A-H WWI Army Aircraft tome and Bob Pearson's 
web site contain a Taube profile that has a red and striped fuselage.  Do 
either of these kits represent the red and white striped version?

Michael
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 07:19:26 -0500
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up, again.
Message-ID: <200010061219.FAA14043@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 02:58:16 -0400 (EDT), Alberto Casirati wrote:

> Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport, Nieuport !!!!!!!!!!!

A man after my own heart. ;-)  I couldn't have said it better.


Matt Bittner



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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 07:21:54 -0500
From: "Matt Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: How many WWI modellers does it take......
Message-ID: <200010061221.FAA18214@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:54:07 -0400 (EDT), Gaston Graf wrote:

> And how many modelers does it take to KILL one Nigel???

I'm sorry, but this one is offensive.  I usually don't chime in on
these types of threads, but Nigel made some pretty good funnies.  This
is not funny, even though it was intended to be.

Completely offensive.


Matt Bittner



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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:22:23 -0400
From: Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: How many WWI modellers does it take......
Message-ID: <200010060822_MC2-B5F3-469E@compuserve.com>

>> And how many modelers does it take to KILL one Nigel??? <<

        NONE.  Because Nigel is a nice guy.

Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com
http://members.nbci.com/Uggies/dju.htm
Page Revised 9/24/00
"Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism."

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:22:39 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron
Message-ID: <012601c02f90$1e1591a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

I saw the red/white taube on an APMA magazine article. Ask the Jenkins for
these.
And sorry, I think that none of those models is that kind of dove... altough
the Airframe vac is more suitable to conversion. IIRC the austrian bird had
one of those squarish cowl sections.
D.
proud owner of two uncompleted taubes since 1999.
PS: Do you have "Dove of War"?

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Kendix <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 9:18 AM
Subject: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron


> First, Richard Eaton's Pegasus Taube kit looks excellent; I hope to do
half
> as well some day - hence my next question.
>
> I have 2 1/72nd scale Taube kits; one is the Pegasus and the Airframe
> vacuform.  I note that both the A-H WWI Army Aircraft tome and Bob
Pearson's
> web site contain a Taube profile that has a red and striped fuselage.  Do
> either of these kits represent the red and white striped version?
>
> Michael
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 08:54:31 -0400
From: Dan <mig15@mindspring.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Cook-up pictures need scanning.
Message-ID: <39DDCB87.16776CB0@mindspring.com>

If need be, I can do it.

Dan

Ernest Thomas wrote:

> Howdy All,
> I now have pictures of my finished Cook-up Tross and I need someone
> willing to scan them and forward them to the cook-up photo
> administrator, (sorry, I forgot who it is).
> Whoever does it(and promtly, please?) can keep the prints, if so
> desired.
> Tia,
> E.


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 12:58:01 GMT
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron
Message-ID: <F173kTLeHw5Iv33Utw300010425@hotmail.com>

>From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
>
>I saw the red/white taube on an APMA magazine article. Ask the >Jenkins for 
>these. And sorry, I think that none of those models is >that kind of 
>dove... altough the Airframe vac is more suitable to >conversion. IIRC the 
>austrian bird had one of those squarish cowl >sections.
>D.
>proud owner of two uncompleted taubes since 1999.
>PS: Do you have "Dove of War"?
>

Diego:

Yes, I have do but I am too lazy and incompetent to look it up, plus I'm at 
work and this is as good a diversion as any.

Michael
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:16:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi
Subject: Web Update
Message-ID: <200010061316.JAA12424@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

Hi all,

   Just added some images to Bob Laskodi's Fokker Fighters page of a 
Jasta Raben Dr-I in 1/48 scale. Very nice model Bob!

-Allan

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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 08:27:50 -0500
From: "Ken Acosta" <kacosta@colsa.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>, <lozenge1@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Re: Fokker DVII?
Message-ID: <s9dd8d20.064@pluto.colsa.com>

Dale-
I tracked one down at Compleat Games and Hobbies in Colorado Springs after searching for several months.  Give them a call at (719) 473-1116 and ask for Carl.  He's the one most familiar with their plastic model inventory.  If they don't have one today, that doesn't mean they won't get one soon.  It was my third or fourth call to them over a period of a couple of months before they got one in.  Just be patient.
Ken

>>> lozenge1@telusplanet.net 10/05/00 05:41PM >>>
OK I'm starting to crack .... what other kits are available in 48 scale and
just how bad are they? No one know of a source for the DML? Anyone want to
part with one example? PLEASE?
Dale



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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:30:33 -0400
From: Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Fokker B.II
Message-ID: <200010060931_MC2-B5FD-FD12@compuserve.com>

Everyone,

        Let's say there is this guy that we all know and love (with the
exception of E) and let's say this guy was considering building a Fokker
B.II.  Let's say that he was looking at the prototype # 03.61 flown by the
A-H's.  Let's say he was looking at this really bad copy of 03.61 and he
wanted a better copy.  Would anyone know where he would look?

        Also, would he be safe in going with CDL, metal parts and
insignia's with white surrounds.

        Of course this is just a question of curiosity, mind you.

Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com
http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm
Page Revised 9/24/00
"Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism."

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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:17:48 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: Taube kits/ was: New review at Squadron
Message-ID: <016201c02fa0$347aa6a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Michael confessed:
> Yes, I have do but I am too lazy and incompetent to look it up, plus I'm
at
> work and this is as good a diversion as any.

Seems like we're birds of a feather, Michael. I can find any type of
interesting stuff when I'm browsing idly my library, but when I need that
"specific" picture or drawing my mind goes blank. Interesting...
And thinking about this is a good diversion for me here, at the office.
D.


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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 06:20:43 -0700
From: "Jeffery Harrison" <karaya@ktn.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Cc: <NodalPoint@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Photographing models - Wrong Info
Message-ID: <005801c02f98$4dd34600$940d9fce@oemcomputer>

You would probably be surprised at how many cameras on the market have a
fixed aperture. In the case of a camera with a fixed aperture (meaning the
physical size of the opening not the F#) and a zoom lens the F stop will
change as the lens focal length is changed but the physical size of the
opening will not change. All of those disposable cameras out there work on
this principle as well. The manufacturer selects a lens opening that will be
the most versatile, puts in a medium to fast film and fixes the lens at its
hyperfocal distance and tells you the camera will focus from 3 feet to
infinity. Marcs camera is a step above that. It isn't fixed focus but the
aperture is fixed. It's easier and cheaper for them to control exposure with
the shutter speed and flash than it is to make a variable aperture so they
fix the aperture to keep cost down.

Depth of field is a product of the distance from the subject and the
reproduction ratio of the image (reproduction ratio is the ratio of the size
of the image on the negative to the size of the subject). If you don't
believe that you can prove it to yourself with a simple experiment. Take
your camera, put a wide angle lens (you can use a zoom for this) on it and
take a picture of a subject that fills the frame. Next take another picture
of the same subject using a telephoto lens, again filling the frame with the
subject. When you compare the two photographs you'll see that the depth of
field is the same. You are correct in saying that a short lens has a greater
depth of field than a long lens BUT that is only true if you don't move the
camera. The reason the depth of field is greater under those conditions is
that the size of the image is much smaller with the shorter lens.
Jeff
IPMS something or other


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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 11:19:51 -0300
From: "dfernet0" <dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar>
To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Ernie's pup
Message-ID: <016801c02fa0$7dadf840$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar>

Ernest!
I know wich checkered Pup you're talkjing about! That's a great scheme to
model... go for it! Wich kit of Pup do you have?
D.



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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:46:28 -0400
From: Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Taube kits
Message-ID: <OF147F18C9.AAF5962F-ON85256970.0050E141@si.edu>


>From what I recall of Harry Woodmans excellent piece in a recent Windsock -
both kits of the Taube, Airframe and the recent Pegasus are based on the
same drawing, that of a pre-war demo/airshow Taube.  There are subtle
differences 'tween the military and the pre-war Taubes, but nothing to
twist your knickers over as fall as I recall.
Brian Nicklas
Archives Division, Room 3148
National Air and Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, DC 20560-0322 USA
1-202-357-3133 (telephone)
1-202-786-2835 (telefax)




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