WWI Digest 2692 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Green Color of Green Tailed Albatri? by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 2) Re: Junkers J.I by MAnde72343@aol.com 3) Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? by "DAVID BURKE" 4) Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? by "DAVID BURKE" 5) Re: Club displays by "DAVID BURKE" 6) WW1 British armour site by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 7) Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? by Mike Kavanaugh 8) Re: DRI Production Dates? by "Lance Krieg" 9) Re: DRI Production Dates? by "Dale Beamish" 10) RE: DRI Production Dates? by "dfernet0" 11) Re: The Voss deal by "Len Smith" 12) Re: Slightly off Topic request for help by "Len Smith" 13) Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? by "Candice Uhlir" 14) Re: Pegase. by "Len Smith" 15) RE: DRI Production Dates? by "Lance Krieg" 16) Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! by Ernest Thomas 17) RE: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! by "dfernet0" 18) RE: DRI Production Dates? by "dfernet0" 19) RE: DRI Production Dates? by "Gaston Graf" 20) Re: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! by Ernest Thomas 21) RE: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! by "dfernet0" 22) Re: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! by Dan 23) RE: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! by "Lyle Lamboley" 24) Re: Club displays by jhudson@hcsmail.com 25) Re: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! by Mike Kavanaugh 26) Re: Photographing models by "Jeffery S. Harrison" 27) New review at Squadron by "Matt Bittner" 28) Re: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! by Ernest Thomas 29) Re: Club Displays by "Mark Shannon" 30) RE: Club displays by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:37:23 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Green Color of Green Tailed Albatri? Message-ID: <8525696F.0050B204.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com> Hi Jack, I have also picked up Humbrol Emerald Green for Dilthey's bird. To me, this looked right for his machine. The one Jasta 5 model I have built has the tail painted with Humbrol #101 Mid Green. T hat one looks "right" to me. But then, I don't agonize over yellow or olive cowls or other such minor points : ) I did some research and then applied DICTA IRA!!! Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:15:04 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Junkers J.I Message-ID: <7d.b2da45b.270df4f8@aol.com> Bob, Czech Resin made the J.1 in 1/72, and it's still on their list AFAIK, I have one, it's pretty good, I got mine from John Roll, but Hannants might be able to get it. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:19:35 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? Message-ID: <005301c02ee0$613fd860$a390aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaston Graf" > Second: Regarding the truth of the written word is something I am extremely > skeptical with. Do you really believe everything you read? If it comes to me over this computer, I'm double-dubious! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:21:17 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? Message-ID: <005401c02ee0$620942e0$a390aec7@com> > As for distinguishing Red and Green this does not mean one cannot be > partially colorblind. There are many people who have problems to distinguish > the greenish and blueish colors but distinguish the Reds from the Greens > correctly. > > sincerely > > Gaston Graf Of course, if you spent a good deal of the time drunk.... DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:22:48 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Club displays Message-ID: <005501c02ee0$62da4e80$a390aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dfernet0" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:28 AM Subject: RE: Club displays > Shaen: > What about a club display of WW1 captured aircraft? Sopwiths with black > crosses and Fokkers with roundels? that might appeal curiosity for modelers > and viewers alike. Plus, you also have a wide variety of planes to work > with. You also get rid of Manfred's triplane as a must. > For a diorama, a shed with a ground crew frantically painting and patching a > captured airplane would be neat! Don't forget the souvenir hunters prowling > around... > just my 2 argie cents worth > D. > How about a display of Voss F.1 aircraft in all conceivable schemes? That should give you a few to chew on! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 22:04:30 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: WW1 British armour site Message-ID: <39DC6E4E.D1BEFD78@tac.com.au> Hi, Just got put onto this site. Looks likes it could come in handy. http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Base/1545/ Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:56:07 -0700 From: Mike Kavanaugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? Message-ID: <39DCC0B7.96389300@earthlink.net> DB said: "If it comes to me over this computer, I'm double-dubious!" So you've got one of these computers too, DB. Don't know if its the processor or what, but sometimes I look back at messages sent and can't believe I said that! :<) Mike K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 12:32:00 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: DRI Production Dates? Message-ID: Dale hopes: " Would the production date be in month and year or day, month and year?" Both Windsock and WWIAero have run articles on these data plates, which contain (as Gaston provides) the model type, werke number, and production date. I just happen to have one here in the office: Fokker - Flugzeugwerke m. b. h. Schwerin - Mecklbg. No. ___ Type ___ ____ The number is the werke number, and the type is the Fokker model number, and the date is only the year of manufacture in the final spaces. Above this rectangular plate is an oblong rectangular one of one line, the military accepttance plate, that reads: Militar - Flugzeug. Fok. ______ which would be stamped with the military type and serial (e.g. E.III 401/15 or Dr.I 425/17). More than anyone could ever want to know... HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:41:12 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: DRI Production Dates? Message-ID: <00cd01c02ef3$901379e0$3031b8a1@darcy> Lance I thank you Sir. A wealth of information indeed! The only one that was throwing me was whether the year was the only date stamped as the serials on the wings state day, month and year. I am intending to do a series of A/C in the original production finish and wanted every available serial etc. Again thanks Lance. Dale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 14:53:25 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: DRI Production Dates? Message-ID: <001501c02ef5$293cf5a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Lance wrote: > Both Windsock and WWIAero have run articles on these data plates, which contain (as Gaston provides) the model type, werke number, and production date. I just happen to have one here in the office: > Cool! Where did you got it? It's an original? D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:03:25 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: The Voss deal Message-ID: <003701c02ef7$2667a3a0$e35808c3@mesh> Merrill, Snip from the latest Windsock :- Q: How many WW1 aeroplane enthusiasts does it take to change a light bulb? A: 100. One to change the bulb, the remaining 99 to argue over the colour.... Has Ray been monitoring the List lately? Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith > He's not the only one close to the edge, although I may be able to > restrain myself from doing something desperate, the thing has become a > variation on water torture, and it's past pointless, it's useless, it will > never be settled and it's just one airplane!!! WHY BOTHER? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:54:35 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Slightly off Topic request for help Message-ID: <003601c02ef7$25b829c0$e35808c3@mesh> Debbie, I am sorry that I cannot help with this specific magazine, but I would recommend two alternatives. The Aeroplane began weekly publication in 1911, and Flight in 1909. Both deal extensively with early developments in aircraft (flying and manufacture) but be warned that, although they cost 1old penny each when issued, they now command serious money! If you are interested contact me off list and I will give you an address or two. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith > I am particularly fascinated by WW1 aviation and the early > development of the aviation industry etc. > > Can anyone of you (Americans?) give me further information on a > magazine title AIRMEN AND AIRCRAFT mentioned in Anne Morrow > Lindbergh's book BRING ME A UNICORN - letters and Diaries 1922-1928. > Can one still obtain copies through rare/out-of-print book/magazine > outlets and similar sources? > > I ask you because this type of early aviation magazine must surely > have surveyed/described the then brand-new aircraft types...possibly > even First World War military aircraft, if the magazine was already > extant before the outbreak of war. > > Debbie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 18:07:12 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? Message-ID: Guys, We are getting way.....to serious!! If I was going to do an engineering analysis on this, get the pictures, approximate date taken, old weather archives, plot sun angles, reflective indexes of paints, approximate build up of dirt and grime based upon flying rate, humidity of the atmosphere, ....and I still can't prove anything. I say a lot of things in jest on this list, from pink tires to "it looks cute". I mean nothing by it. All I meant to do was to present something of interet I found. I apologize. Back to NSA mode from now on. Candice >From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:49:53 -0400 (EDT) > >Boy, if I didn't know better, I'd think Barry at Rosemont was paying >Candice >to toss this grenade as a perfect sales device. > >I just found out that the new Rosemont F.1 update set for the Dragon/DML >Dr.I >includes serials for all three F.1s, and the face for the Voss airplane. >So, >with this set for we 1/48 guys, and the Eduard F.1 Profipack with a >Rosemont >set for the 1/72 guys, we can make dueling Yellow/Olive Voss birds forever! > >BTW - did anyone note the heretic in the new FSM who did his Eduard kit >with >the yellow rudder and cowl?? The temerity of that guy! I don't even >think >he's on the list, is he??? > >BTW (further) I am doing the little Eduard profipack, with the Rosemont >update, and the kit is as nice as that review in FSM says it is (though >this >one will be right). > >Cheers, > >TC _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:07:58 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Pegase. Message-ID: <003f01c02ef7$33247140$e35808c3@mesh> Gaston, Thank you for your interest but the question could not be more specific. Unfortunately if you do not know of Pegase ( a magazine published by l'Association des Amis du Musée de l'Air) you are unlikely to be a subscriber, and therefore unable to help me. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith > Could you please be a bit mor specific? What are you talking about? Pegase? > What's Pegase? I hate riddles ;o)! > Gaston Graf > > Greetings, > > Does anyone on the list subscribe to the above? If so I would be glad to > > hear from them off list. > > TIA. > > Regards Len. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:21:35 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: DRI Production Dates? Message-ID: Dieg enthuses: "Cool! Where did you got it? It's an original?" Oh, no, I've misled you! It is a facsimile created as artwork for a model I made some years ago. If you look VERY closely at the Fokker E.III I have on the website page, you will see both plates on the starboard cowl - smaller versions, of course. Since then, Americal Gryphon has released these as part of their Jasta series decals, along with the serials and other stencil items that Dale is looking for. I believe the Jasta 12 sheet contains all of the stencils and their proper placement on the ariframe - but don't quote me, this last from memory. And, Dale, the Dr.I stencil information is also available in Imrie's seminal work on that plane. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:27:57 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: The List Subject: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! Message-ID: <39DCC82C.4E9A7115@bellsouth.net> Hi all, Late Monday night, I placed a cc order with Aeroplane Books for a few Datafiles. On Tuesday, I rcvd confirmation that my order was shipped that day and here it is thursday and I have my three newest Datafiles(MoS Types N, I, V, Aviatik D-1, and the Sopwith Pup Special, which has a lot of COLOR pictures as well as 3 or 4 times the number of color profiles.) For those who are wondering about a source for DF's (newbies?), Aeropane Books get's my highest recomendation. No affiliation other than being a consistently happy repeat customer. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:36:39 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! Message-ID: <005401c02efb$364f2780$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> How about prices? Do they beat Roll's? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:31 PM Subject: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! > Hi all, > Late Monday night, I placed a cc order with Aeroplane Books for a few > Datafiles. > On Tuesday, I rcvd confirmation that my order was shipped that day and > here it is thursday and I have my three newest Datafiles(MoS Types N, I, > V, Aviatik D-1, and the Sopwith Pup Special, which has a lot of COLOR > pictures as well as 3 or 4 times the number of color profiles.) > For those who are wondering about a source for DF's (newbies?), Aeropane > Books get's my highest recomendation. > No affiliation other than being a consistently happy repeat customer. > E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:38:19 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: DRI Production Dates? Message-ID: <005501c02efb$72302240$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Lance > Oh, no, I've misled you! Ahh! foiled again! :-0 > It is a facsimile created as artwork for a model I made some years ago. If you look VERY closely at the Fokker E.III I have on the website page, you will see both plates on the starboard cowl - smaller versions, of course. I'll go checking... Thanks! I guess that the Americal sheets on JGII I bought at Pensacola doesn't have those stencils, but other little bits.... I have to check those also. Regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:45:26 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: DRI Production Dates? Message-ID: Additionally I want to add the following: 1) The abreviation m.b.h. means "mit beschränkter Haftung" or "limited company". 2) The abreviation Mecklbg. means "Mecklenburg" where Schwerin is located. After WWII Mecklenburg belonged to GDR until the Iron Curtain fell. Beware of the hun in the sun... ... it could be me ;o) Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > Dale hopes: > > " Would the production date be in month and year or day, month and year?" > > Both Windsock and WWIAero have run articles on these data plates, > which contain (as Gaston provides) the model type, werke number, > and production date. I just happen to have one here in the office: > > Fokker - Flugzeugwerke > m. b. h. > Schwerin - Mecklbg. > No. ___ Type ___ > ____ > > The number is the werke number, and the type is the Fokker model > number, and the date is only the year of manufacture in the final spaces. > > Above this rectangular plate is an oblong rectangular one of one > line, the military accepttance plate, that reads: > > Militar - Flugzeug. Fok. ______ > > which would be stamped with the military type and serial (e.g. > E.III 401/15 or Dr.I 425/17). > > More than anyone could ever want to know... > > HTH > > Lance > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:50:57 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! Message-ID: <39DCCD90.F3EBCA05@bellsouth.net> dfernet0 wrote: > How about prices? Do they beat Roll's? $15.95US for the regular Datafiles, $25.00 for the Pup Special. Don't know if that beat's Roll's prices or not. Priority, insured postage was $4.05 from VA to LA. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:05:16 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! Message-ID: <009101c02eff$35deb5a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ernie: I don't remember the postage amount, but I got yesterday some datafiles as well (including this excellent one of the Pup) from Misterkit at slightly more than $22.- (50,000 Italian Lira). Of course, they took much more time to arrive, but anyway, I'm on the frontier of the "fields we know" and everything takes about 3 weeks to get here on air mail. Exceptions are Icarus (who has an assortment of rare aviation books) wich arrives from New England to Argentina in just one week and an european hobby shop called "Luchvaart Hobby Shop" (that catered for me the beasty Merlin kits) wich took a slightly oversized week. Who knows what evil lurks in the post offices? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! > > > dfernet0 wrote: > > > How about prices? Do they beat Roll's? > > $15.95US for the regular Datafiles, $25.00 for the Pup Special. > Don't know if that beat's Roll's prices or not. Priority, insured postage was > $4.05 from VA to LA. > E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 15:10:59 -0400 From: Dan To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! Message-ID: <39DCD243.7D103629@mindspring.com> Ernest Thomas wrote: > Hi all, > Late Monday night, I placed a cc order with Aeroplane Books for a few > Datafiles. > On Tuesday, I rcvd confirmation that my order was shipped that day and > here it is thursday and I have my three newest Datafiles(MoS Types N, I, > V, Aviatik D-1, and the Sopwith Pup Special, which has a lot of COLOR > pictures as well as 3 or 4 times the number of color profiles.) > For those who are wondering about a source for DF's (newbies?), Aeropane > Books get's my highest recomendation. > No affiliation other than being a consistently happy repeat customer. > E. Certainly sounds like a good outfit, thanks for the tip. By the way, does the Aviatik book have shots or illustrations of the interior? I thought I'd read/heard somewhere that it didn't. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:36:30 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! Message-ID: <4120001045193630810@earthlink.net> Ernest, Barb and Bill Byrd were at Dayton with their tables full of DFs and other books...the other books just sat there but the Windsocks just kept getting sold. Fortunately, they brought along a lot of duplicates of the most popular titles. That was the busiest table there at the show. I'm also a very happy customer with them, and they certainly deserve the business because they are so conscientious. Lyle PS: Got to meet Graham Hunter, Tom Morgan and Dave Watts at the show...what a bunch of great guys! Sorry I couldn't hang around longer... > [Original Message] > From: Ernest Thomas > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: 10/5/00 3:17:39 PM > Subject: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! > > Hi all, > Late Monday night, I placed a cc order with Aeroplane Books for a few > Datafiles. > On Tuesday, I rcvd confirmation that my order was shipped that day and > here it is thursday and I have my three newest Datafiles(MoS Types N, I, > V, Aviatik D-1, and the Sopwith Pup Special, which has a lot of COLOR > pictures as well as 3 or 4 times the number of color profiles.) > For those who are wondering about a source for DF's (newbies?), Aeropane > Books get's my highest recomendation. > No affiliation other than being a consistently happy repeat customer. > E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 15:40:15 -0400 From: jhudson@hcsmail.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Club displays Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20001005154015.007cbd30@hcsmail.com> Manfred flew other planes besides the triplane, didn't he? How about a display entitled "The Planes Richtofen Flew." If I were a betting kind of guy, I'd bet most people who even know who MvR was don't know that he flew anything other than a red triplane. >> with. You also get rid of Manfred's triplane as a must. Jim Hudson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:51:32 -0700 From: Mike Kavanaugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! Message-ID: <39DCF7E4.CC583D6@earthlink.net> I've been ordering datafiles directly from Albatros Productions, Ltd. for some time, since I discovered their prices are lowest by $2 to $4 per item and if your order is over 40 pounds, they are sent postpaid. I am attempting to obtain all of the Windsock Datafiles, Mini-Files and the various Specials and keep my orders above 40 pounds - - about $60 US. Albatros doesn't take credit cards, but since I have been a many time repeat customer, paying by personal check doesn't seem to slow things up much. Usually have my order in 2 to 3 weeks, using the mails going and coming. FWIW, Mike K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:52:48 -0800 From: "Jeffery S. Harrison" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Photographing models Message-ID: <01a901c02f05$efdaa6c0$880d9fce@jshdsh> I'm coming to this discussion a little late but would like to make a couple of comments anyway. You've gotten a lot of generally useful and some less than accurate advice to this question already. One respondent suggested you check out Hyper Scale (http://www.hyperscale.com) to read the articles on model photography on that page. There are now 4 articles on the subject in their reference section. Your specific camera is going to limit what you can do in photographing your models. It has a 35mm - 105mm zoom lens with a fixed aperture. Pentax says that the aperture is F4 to F11 (it varies with the focal length of the lens--F4 being at 35mm and F11 at 105mm) with a focus range of 2.15 feet to infinity. With that information I can tell you that you need to be 60 inches from the model to have a depth of field of 5 inches at the 105mm lens position. At the 35mm lens position you still need to be 36 inches from the subject to get a 6 inch depth of field. This means that you have to be from 3 feet to 5 feet from the model in order to get a photograph of a 1/72nd scale airplane where the entire model is in focus. So, while it is possible to photograph your models with your camera, the only thing that the camera is suitable for is overall and not detail photographs of those models. This is covered pretty thoroughly in part 4 of the photography articles on Hyper Scale but I'll briefly summarize it here; Equipment; All you need to photograph models is a manual-everything 35mm SLR with a 50mm (F16 or F22) lens and a set of close-up lens/filters. Ideally you will also have a tripod and a reliable light source (I don't like the sun because it only works during daytime, is weather dependant and you can't position it precisely where you want it--of course if you don't live in a rain forest it is more user friendly). If you're willing to buy used you can probably get something like a Pentax K1000 with a 50mm lens for $100 or possibly even less. Technique; For overall all shots I feel your best lens choice is a boring 50mm "standard" lens. I like them because they are inexpensive and almost everybody already has one for their camera. Another thing in their favor is that they are usually faster (have a larger maximum aperture) than other lenses so the view finder image is brighter making critical focusing that much easier. To get enough depth of field you'll probably be (at F22) between 24 inches and 30 inches from the subject-- at 24 inches your depth of field is 7.3 inches while at 30 inches that increases to 11.6 inches. It doesn't matter what type of lens you use the relative size of the image in the view finder (and on the negative) will be exactly the same to get this depth of field. This is true with a 35mm lens or a 200mm lens. Depth of field is NOT directly related to the focal length of the lens but focal length will determine how far away from the model you have to stand--it may be 1 foot for the 35mm lens and 6 feet for the 200mm lens but in both cases the image size in the view finder will be identical. Even with a relatively subject size in the photograph you should be able to fix that when you scan it. I'll stay away from scanning techniques right now but one simple solution may be to get some reprints. Select the photographs that you like the best of the model (relative position details shown etc.) and have them reprinted asking the people doing the printing (you'll probably have to go to a camera store that processes film in house, not a place like K Mart) to crop to the subject. That will give you a 4x6 enlargement of the photograph and a larger image to scan. If you have more specific questions about equipment, technique or scanning feel free to e-mail me directly. My e-mail is karaya@ktn.net Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 15:19:38 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: New review at Squadron Message-ID: <200010052019.NAA10126@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Richard Eaton's Taube review is now on the Squadron site: http://www.squadron.com/Pegasus%20Taube%20Article Well done, Richard! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 15:29:09 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Well deserved plug; AEROPLANE BOOKS ROCKS!!! Message-ID: <39DCE494.7A5C83F4@bellsouth.net> Dan wrote: > Certainly sounds like a good outfit, thanks for the tip. By the way, does > the Aviatik book have shots or illustrations of the interior? I thought I'd > read/heard somewhere that it didn't. It's got a few shots of the panel, with a bit of the adjacent port sidewall. Wheel and stick type controls are shown. No photos of seat, rudder, floor, or stbd sidewall. However there's sketches from an evaluation of one shot down in Feb 1918(138.27) These show the rudder bar and joystick mount detail, as well as a sketch of the seat, and mount along with a good portion of the fuselage structure, as seen from the stbd rear qtr. There's also a nice sketch of the rudder cable pulley detail. Also a fair amount of enging and gun breech shots, two good shots of the tailplane bracing, and a bunch of pictures of different styled radiators. Hth, E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 15:35:55 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Club Displays Message-ID: Actually, you've got about a dozen fighter (scout) planes documented for MvR, and some with evolving markings. From memory (always dangerous) An Albatros D.II, nothing special about its markings, in which he shot down Hawker. A Halberstadt D.II, which may have been red, At least two Albatros D.III with red fuselages, Three or four Albatros D.V and Va, with various portions red such as red upper wing, spinner, and tail up to the national markings on the fuselage, or just a wide red band on the rear fuselage, or more overall red. And then there were his triplanes. F.I. 103/17, no special markings, DrI. 127/17, with a creeping level of red in action reports, but not well documented pictorially, DrI. 152/18, with a red cowl, struts, tail up past the fuselage markings, upper wing, and wheel hubs when he flew it regularly, but eventually painted overall red with white rudder, and DrI.425/18, his death machine, red overall except for white rudder, crosses roughly painted out to Balkenkruez. In addition, he apparently borrowed a Jasta 6 triplane (I believe DrI. 525/18, on a aerodrome tour that was well photographed, so he is connected with one black/white-striped-tail bird. Who knows what others he flew on casual basis. Then there are the Albatros two seaters he flew or flew in when making formal calls on Berlin or on his convelescent leave, the AEGs he flew as observer, maybe others that he borrowed from the Jasta pool when his personal mounts were being serviced, without combat reports, training aircraft, etc. and you have the typical run of any air leader. If only MvR weren't so over-hyped in the public conscious, it would be an interesting and informative club project. Now, it you were to do another ace, like William Barker, you would not have many planes, but you could have the evolution of its markings. Bishop, Guynemer, Ball, Collishaw, Barracca, Linke-Crawford, and Brumowski -- you could get a lot of other interesting displays somewhere in between. Unfortunately, only a few of the general public would recognize the characters any more. Now Nungessor, there would be an interesting one, how many of his aircraft ended up on the scrap heap after relatively few flying hours? .Mark. Jim Hudson wrote: >Manfred flew other planes besides the triplane, didn't he? How about a >display entitled "The Planes Richtofen Flew." >If I were a betting kind of guy, I'd bet most people who even know who >MvR was don't know that he flew anything other than a red triplane. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 23:33:39 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Club displays Message-ID: MvR flew Albs D.III as well as the preserial tripe F102/17. Later he flew atleast 2 different Dr.1., 152/17 and 425/17. 425/17 was the one he was shot down with. regards Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > jhudson@hcsmail.com > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:47 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Club displays > > > > Manfred flew other planes besides the triplane, didn't he? How about a > display entitled "The Planes Richtofen Flew." > > If I were a betting kind of guy, I'd bet most people who even know who > MvR was don't know that he flew anything other than a red triplane. > > >> with. You also get rid of Manfred's triplane as a must. > > Jim Hudson > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2692 **********************