WWI Digest 2690 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Club displays by Shane Weier 2) Pfalz DIII? by "Dale Beamish" 3) Re: Pfalz DIII? by MAnde72343@aol.com 4) Balsa for Cockpit Interiors by NodalPoint@aol.com 5) Re: Green Color of Green Tailed Albatri? by "Michael S. Alvarado" 6) The Voss deal by NodalPoint@aol.com 7) Old vs New research (was Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss by "Bob Pearson" 8) Re: Club displays by "Bob Pearson" 9) Re: Balsa for Cockpit Interiors by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: The Voss deal by "Bob Pearson" 11) RE: The Voss deal by Shane Weier 12) RE: Club displays by Shane Weier 13) DR.I factory jpeg by Shane Weier 14) Like a Clod WAS: DR.I factory jpeg by Shane Weier 15) Re: The Voss deal by Mike Kavanaugh 16) Re: Old vs New research (was Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss by Mike Kavanaugh 17) Re: The Voss deal by NodalPoint@aol.com 18) Re: Like a Clod WAS: DR.I factory jpeg by Mike Kavanaugh 19) RE: Like a Clod WAS: DR.I factory jpeg by Shane Weier 20) Re: The Voss deal by Mike Kavanaugh 21) Re: Green Color of Green Tailed Albatri? by "David Calhoun" 22) Re: The Voss deal by "Tom Solinski" 23) Re: Balsa for Cockpit Interiors by Mark Miller 24) Re: VCR ALERT do not miss this one! by DavidL1217@aol.com 25) Re: Wing Ripples, Was: BM Sopwith Dolphin opinions? by Otisgood@aol.com 26) RE: Balsa for Cockpit Interiors by Shane Weier 27) Roguettes? by "Tom Solinski" 28) Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? by TomTheAeronut@aol.com 29) RE: Roguettes? by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:53:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Club displays Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621ACC@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mike says: > The List seems kinda slow It does, and I thought I'd throw something into the pond and see what surfaces. First, some background. Model shows in Australia are more like the UK IPMS shows than any held in the US, in that there's a great emphasis on displays by clubs and SIG's which result in many more display models than contest models. At our local show this year 16 clubs (mostly from within 100 miles, but also from as far as 600 miles away) mounted displays. For the first time there was a trophy for the best club display, judged by the *traders* on the criteria of "most memorable" This year it was won by a club which divided their stand into three segments. One was built like a museum display, as 8 small dioramas showing the "History of a 1940 Ford". Each diorama showed the "same" car, from factory, via showroom, to home, "hotted up", demo derby, junkyard and then as restored to original at an enthusiast collecters rally. Each dio had a small explanatory poster, some had other supporting models but essentially it was *focused* on 8 models of the same type. This was the "memorable" part of the display; they also included a big WW2 dio around the corner which was okay but nothing special. Jump to next year.... I'm hoping to convince Riverside club to produce a WW1 themed centrepiece, and it'll take more than a simple display of WW1 models to get anyone but our two club listees excited. I've got a few ideas, but none are earth shattering, and none so captivating as to get enough club members "hot" So....Anyone? Ideas for a display? I need to fill an area of about 1.5m width, and can produce a tiered, stepped or slanted display without problems. So far the best we can come up with is a centrepiece large scale Dr.I (groan, MvR's of course) surrounded by a constellation of small scale ones in various Jasta markings (one for each Jasta in 1:72 or all of the known Jasta 11 Dr.I in 1/48) with poster type photos of the pilots and (perhaps) a fake Ordenkissen with medals. Not too shabby, but it won't enthuse enough members and I'm not anxious to build 10 Dr.I Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:14:57 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: "List" Subject: Pfalz DIII? Message-ID: <00bd01c02e59$03ddabc0$e22bb8a1@darcy> A while ago there was talk about no examples of the Pfalz left. While looking through the DRI Datafile Special I noticed a photo on page 29, picture 58. Is this not a Pfalz in the background? Halb CL series? It is taken at the Royal Agricultural Hall in London I believe. Dale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:24:20 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pfalz DIII? Message-ID: <43.b1bf584.270d1624@aol.com> It's a Pfalz, but all captured machines were burned sometime after the war, although some effort at historic preservation was made, no funds were allowed for preservation of enemy aircraft. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:44:31 EDT From: NodalPoint@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Balsa for Cockpit Interiors Message-ID: <9d.b87bbe3.270d1adf@aol.com> Does anyone out there use balsa for stringers and floors and such in cockpits. I think it looks really nice with a little stain and varnish. Most of what I have seen on the list involves sprue or other plastic. I've also seen a couple folks "skinning" Albatros with very thin balsa or ply. This seems pretty painfull to me though. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:46:47 -0400 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Green Color of Green Tailed Albatri? Message-ID: <39DBC167.91D1A78D@bellatlantic.net> Steve, Great minds think alike. That's what i used for my von Hipple (ex Flashar) red dragon Edward 1/48 D.V build in the days preceding the cookoff. It can be seen in the WWI modelers list gallery under Mike Alvarado's model even though its not captioned. Got to get those captions to Matt one of these days. Alvie smperry@mindspring.com wrote: > > Has anyone built a green tailed Jasta 5 Albatros? If so, can you tell me > > what shade of green or FS number match you used to paint the tail? > > I used Testors Beret Green from the small bottle. > > sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:08:47 EDT From: NodalPoint@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: The Voss deal Message-ID: I've only been on the list for maybe a month or so and the whole Voss Cowl thing just seems to go on and on. I mean its interesting and lots of people have dug up some neat facts, but today I got like 10 messages about this. I like to try and read, or at least open, most of the messages because you never know what you might be missing by hitting the delete button, but why Voss? Maybe its better if we don't know 100% what color the cowl was. But it's trivial compared to all the other things we don't know. I mean, its beyond speculation to think maybe the guy who painted the thing was color blind. Its almost like investigating UFO's. If its such a big worry build two, one with an olive cowl, one with a yellow cowl and put one on display on even numbered days the other on display for odd numbered days. Flip a coin to see which color gets odd or even if you're that indecisive. There's a lot of very knowledgeable folks on this list and I hope some other discussion will spring up. To me, this is an awesome source of info, but let Voss' cowl R.I.P. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:11:32 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Old vs New research (was Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Message-ID: <200010050022.RAA31705@mail.rapidnet.net> Mike K says .. > I continue to be amazed at the suspicion and cynicism that permeates > List members' commentary on published "facts" regarding OT aircraft. > They have the temerity to challenge the collective wisdom of authors' > well-researched writings and question the absence of editorial action > that would satisfy their sense of historical correctness. Professional > writers and publishers wouldn't be putting history into print if it > wasn't true, would they? This depends on the knowledge of the editor and what references the author has used. Case in point .. Collishaw is widely quoted as having downed a German aircraft on the Oberndorf raid of Oct 12 1916, Rimell/Bruce even say so in the Strutter Datafile. .. however I have a copy of his (and other) report from that mission and nowhere in it does he claim to have shot down an EA .. he *SHOT AT* one, but never downed it. Just because something was written in the past by an author does not mean it was so .. the same goes for 'new research'. In both cases one must make allowances as to what the sources were in compiling the accounts. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:03:56 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Club displays Message-ID: <200010050025.RAA31779@mail.rapidnet.net> Nows your chance to do that Jata 5 lineup Bob ---------- >From: Shane Weier \ > So....Anyone? Ideas for a display? I need to fill an area of about 1.5m > width, and can produce a tiered, stepped or slanted display without > problems. > > So far the best we can come up with is a centrepiece large scale Dr.I > (groan, MvR's of course) surrounded by a constellation of small scale ones > in various Jasta markings (one for each Jasta in 1:72 or all of the known > Jasta 11 Dr.I in 1/48) with poster type photos of the pilots and (perhaps) a > fake Ordenkissen with medals. > > Not too shabby, but it won't enthuse enough members and I'm not anxious to > build 10 Dr.I > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:14:58 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Balsa for Cockpit Interiors Message-ID: <14.9e81296.270d2202@aol.com> In a message dated 10/4/00 4:47:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, NodalPoint@aol.com writes: << Does anyone out there use balsa for stringers and floors and such in cockpits. I think it looks really nice with a little stain and varnish. Most of what I have seen on the list involves sprue or other plastic. >> I've used balsa, bass, birch ply, bamboo, mahogony- you name it- just about any wood for detailing! RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:17:05 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Voss deal Message-ID: <200010050028.RAA31902@mail.rapidnet.net> > There's a lot of very knowledgeable folks on this list and I hope some other > discussion will spring up. To me, this is an awesome source of info, but let > Voss' cowl R.I.P. > > Steve We would .. but you just brought it up again .. :-) Damn .. so did I .. and here I have stayed out of it until now. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:25:19 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: The Voss deal Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621ACE@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Steve opines: > If its such a big worry build two, one with an olive cowl, > one with a yellow > cowl and put one on display on even numbered days the other > on display for > odd numbered days. Flip a coin to see which color gets odd or > even if you're that indecisive. > > There's a lot of very knowledgeable folks on this list and I > hope some other > discussion will spring up. To me, this is an awesome source > of info, but let Voss' cowl R.I.P. While I'm *personally* sick to death of the Voss thing I have to point out that the list consists of something over 200 subscribers, some of whom *do* enjoy the continuation of this discussion and get their enjoyment from pursuing esoteric detail. Others on the list don't care one whit about such detail, some might build their models straight from the box (without filling the seams or painting them for all I know) and others spend *years* building one model to the 'n'th degree of accuracy. But so long as they are all having fun doing it their way (Dicta Ira) they're doing it right. Let 'em talk, and delete the ones with Voss in the header the way I delete all the computer game thread and references. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:28:45 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Club displays Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621AD0@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Bob, > Nows your chance to do that Jata 5 lineup > Urrgggghhh. No way, not that. This has to be a collaborative effort and getting at least 3 other members to help is critical. *Maybe* I could get one to build *a* Jasta 5 aircraft but that's going to leave me building Albatrosse 24 hours a day to be finished by next August :-( Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:38:21 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: DR.I factory jpeg Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621AD2@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Dave, Some time, way back, you were kind enough to email me a scan of a photo you own, which showed workers painting Dr.I wings. Like a clod, I've lost it. Is there any chance you could send it again? I'm thinking "box diorama" here and the pic may be the reference I need to convince our tank modellers (to make the building) and figure modellers (to make workers) to join the aircraft makers (wings only - ha!) in one project Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:42:35 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Like a Clod WAS: DR.I factory jpeg Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621AD4@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Sorry guys, > Like a clod, I've ....sent this to the list when it was intended to go direct to the source. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:46:24 -0700 From: Mike Kavanaugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Voss deal Message-ID: <39DBEB80.BC8E4625@earthlink.net> Steve, I have been on the list only a few more months than you have. In that time I have learned that the Voss cowl is an icon. Although not one in the strictest religious sense, it seems to have a metaphysical significance for WWI aircraft historians/modellers that eludes some of us. Your plea for sanity is useless. I understand this is a recurring thread that infects the List from time to time. I guess it's like the mountain climber's answer to the question as to why he was going to climb the mountain . . . "Because it is there." As is the Voss cowl. ; < )) Still stalling. . . . Mike K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:48:41 -0700 From: Mike Kavanaugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Old vs New research (was Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Message-ID: <39DBEC09.5BFBE614@earthlink.net> Bob, Sorry, it was my feeble attempt at tongue-in-cheek humor. I agree with everything you say. Mike K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:51:13 EDT From: NodalPoint@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Voss deal Message-ID: In a message dated 10/4/00 7:26:25 PM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Let 'em talk, and delete the ones with Voss in the header the way I delete all the computer game thread and references. >> I hate to delete messages without even opening them. You never know when that gem of information or great fact will pop out. I don't mind people discussing (or arguing) something, but there's a whole war full of other details and this seems to capture people's attention like nothing else. Even if its just a joke I don't understand the continued fascination. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:59:51 -0700 From: Mike Kavanaugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Like a Clod WAS: DR.I factory jpeg Message-ID: <39DBEEA7.D7D40A70@earthlink.net> Hey Shane, No worry. I like the idea. Sure cuts down on the aircraft model building. What were you thinking of doing with the Dr.I kits residue? Or, do you have a "wings only" source? Mike K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:07:25 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Like a Clod WAS: DR.I factory jpeg Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621AD5@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mike, > No worry. I like the idea. Sure cuts down on the aircraft model > building. What were you thinking of doing with the Dr.I kits residue? > Or, do you have a "wings only" source? I only need one wing, and some resin. Most of the wings need only be wing tips because with a box dio you control the viewpoint and IIRC in the pic wings are stored on edge in racks and hanging from the ceiling. So I either use 2-3 of the 1/28 kits in total, or make a mould and enough copies to populate the small section of factory needed. Anyway, it's just an idea, and liable to instant dismissal at our next meeting ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:18:19 -0700 From: Mike Kavanaugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Voss deal Message-ID: <39DBF2FB.D3AC3177@earthlink.net> Steve said: "Even if its just a joke I don't understand the continued fascination." The Voss cowl question is regarded by some List members as something akin to the quest for the "Holy Grail". I, personally, am truly amazed at the extent of the research and imaginative conclusions derived from such research. However, I enjoy following the assertions, arguments and diatribe . . . this subject really arouses some passions! I just got the Voss decal set from Eric at Copper State Models and I'm going to wait until things die down before I ask which color I should paint the cowl. : < ) headed for the bunker, Mike K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:23:15 -0700 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Green Color of Green Tailed Albatri? Message-ID: <000a01c02e8c$5e34ed80$d80b3ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Jack, For my Jasta 5 Mailed Gauntlet I used Testors Beret Green in the small bottle. It is a dark green and looks good to me. You can view images of these in my WW1 images page. Dave Calhoun (almost done with the Jasta 37 Udet aluminum Albatros) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Gartner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:16 PM Subject: Green Color of Green Tailed Albatri? > Has anyone built a green tailed Jasta 5 Albatros? If so, can you tell me > what shade of green or FS number match you used to paint the tail? > > I'm getting ready to start painting the green bands of Dilthey's plane and > from my or profiles, the green is very similar to the Jasta 5 tails. > > TIA > > Jack Gartner IPMS/USA 30538 > diaphus@tampabay.rr.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:29:51 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: The Voss deal Message-ID: <005601c02e74$243c75c0$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> > > There's a lot of very knowledgeable folks on this list and I hope some other > > discussion will spring up. To me, this is an awesome source of info, but let > > Voss' cowl R.I.P. > > > > Steve > > We would .. but you just brought it up again .. :-) > > Damn .. so did I .. and here I have stayed out of it until now. > > Bob > OK so let's go back to the "correct" color and paint configuration of MvR's last Dr-1! Ducking for the yellow and green tornado shelter Tom S OKC If you aren't making waves, you aren't making headway! ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 2000 19:37:46 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Balsa for Cockpit Interiors Message-ID: <20001005023746.3962.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Wed, 04 October 2000, NodalPoint@aol.com wrote: > > > Does anyone out there use balsa for stringers and floors and such in > cockpits. I think it looks really nice with a little stain and varnish. Most > of what I have seen on the list involves sprue or other plastic. > > I've also seen a couple folks "skinning" Albatros with very thin balsa or > ply. This seems pretty painfull to me though. > > Steve Steve I've skinned a 1/48 albc3 - The process was a little painful, but the kit is well suited to it. I can't imagine trying to skin a Alb DV with ply - The contours would very difficult to generate, and I think you would do better with a different finish. I do like using wood whenever whenever I can - it has it's own charm btw I used 1/64 ply not 1/32 on the C3 as is written on Allan's site - my mistake As far as balsa for cockpits I guess I've always considered cockpit interiors to dark and remote to benefit from the use of real wood. But if I was to use wood I think I might opt for Basswood. Balsa could work - but I think when you get down to small details it might be harder to handle. Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:52:27 EDT From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: VCR ALERT do not miss this one! Message-ID: <28.b8b1b83.270d46eb@aol.com> Last night I caught on ShowTime a magnificent film I rented a few weeks back. The title used by Showtime is "Regeneration", the title on the film when I rented was "Behind the Lines" This is the story about a British psychologist at Craig Lockart Castle in WWI. The Castle was set up to treat officers suffering from shell shock. The story focuses on 3 patients, the poets, Siegfreid Sassoon and Wilfred Owen and a middle class officer. It is an amazing story of the horrors of trench warfare and the struggle of the injured officers coming to terms with their ordeals and to overcome shellshock. Actually, Sasoon was sent there as he was a war hero of high standing who begins to protest the war. The Sassoon-Owen plotline did happen. I assume the rest is very well portrayed historical fiction as on the English seem to do: accurate. Even Sassoon and Robert Graves (poet, novelist who wrote I Claudius, Good Bye to All That) who visits are wearing the 6 inch black pigtail of the Welsch Fusiliers on the back of their jackets. This detail is not described in the movie, I only know of it from Grave's memoir. The acting is first rate. The only known actor is Jonathon Pryce who plays the doctor. I give it a five out of five for WWI films as it really gets into the psychology of the Lost generation. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 22:56:19 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Wing Ripples, Was: BM Sopwith Dolphin opinions? Message-ID: Reminds me of when I built this kit. When I went to attach the top wing, the interplane struts were too short because of hte excess dihedral. I improvised by making longer struts out of flat toothpicks. There is still too much dihedral in the wing, but at least it is attached. Otis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:19:20 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Balsa for Cockpit Interiors Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621ADA@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Steve, > Does anyone out there use balsa for stringers and floors and such in > cockpits. I think it looks really nice with a little stain > and varnish. Most of what I have seen on the list involves sprue > or other plastic. Mmm. I use *whatever* works, plastic, wood, metal, carbon fibre, putty, rubber.... But to get back to wood - I use bamboo for all "wooden" struts, and carve props from wood laminates for 1/48 models. I also use wood veneer for instrument panels and have used it for the "shelf" in an SE-5a. Oh, all wing cores from balsa too. > > I've also seen a couple folks "skinning" Albatros with very > thin balsa or > ply. This seems pretty painfull to me though. Sounds like more trouble than it's worth on one of the highly curved machines, and even in 1/48 the veneer would surely alter the fuselage dimensions *assuming* you started with a correctly sized kit. OTOH I have more or less finished an LVG C.VI fuselage made of thin basswood (thanks to SP!)which uses panels of thin basswood glued over a scratchbuilt undersized plastic fuselage. Since most of the wooden curves on that bird aren't compound it was simple enough. Maybe I'll finish it some day - if I can resist the urge to start over in 1:24 and *really* go crazy. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:28:32 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Roguettes? Message-ID: <000f01c02e7c$567e15e0$12330e18@Solinski.okc1.ok.home.com> Candice, When can the curious on this list expect to see you in the rogues gallery? And will that be with a green or yellow top? Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:31:35 EDT From: TomTheAeronut@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Old C&C (USA) Article on Voss Colours?? Message-ID: In a message dated 10/4/00 5:25:31 PM EST, mikekavana@earthlink.net writes: << Apologize for taking up the bandwith. The List seems kinda slow and I'm stalling about getting back to work on the C.III. "Dicta Ira" Mike K. >> It's going to be interesting to see how much of your post goes flying in loops and rolls right over people's heads, Mr. K - and people have the temerity to say that a CPA is born minus the humor gland!! :-) Thanks for the chuckles. TC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:33:39 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Roguettes? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621ADB@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Tom asks: > When can the curious on this list expect to see you in the > rogues gallery? > And will that be with a green or yellow top? One yellow cowl, and one green cowl ......and with the Olympics over I'm sure you could buy one cheap down at Bondi. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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