WWI Digest 2639 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) =?iso-8859-2?B?UkU6INLBw8PW0NfU09A+xr3wzt0sbUBpbMTa19TT0NHVyOfT8S5HZXQg?= by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 2) Re: Pfalz D.III Existence by Steve Cox 3) The Martinsyde File by "Sandy Adam" 4) Hanriot question by "Alberto Casirati" 5) Ribs by "Alberto Casirati" 6) RE: Hanriot question by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 7) Re: Nieuport monoplanes by "Matthew Bittner" 8) RE: Rhinebeck by "dfernet0" 9) Re: Chemical Warefare by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 10) Re: The Martinsyde File by "Andy Kemp" 11) Travellers Ho! by Shane Weier 12) RE: Chemical Warefare by "Gaston Graf" 13) RE: Ribs by "Gaston Graf" 14) Re: Travellers Ho! by Sharon Henderson 15) Re: Chemical Warefare by "Brad & Merville" 16) Re: Nieuport monoplanes by Craig Gavin 17) RE: Ribs by "Michael Kendix" 18) Re: Nieuport monoplanes by "Matt Bittner" 19) RE: Ribs by "dfernet0" 20) ot: Yes, about a burrito) by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 21) Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D2=C1=C3=C3=D6=D0=D7=D4=D3=D0=BB=C6=BD=F0=CE=DD?=, by Lee Mensinger 22) Long-term effects of mustard gas by "Edward Swaim" 23) Re: Hanriot question by "Candice Uhlir" 24) Going to Boston...anything good OT to see there?? by "Candice Uhlir" 25) RE: Going to Boston...anything good OT to see there?? by "dfernet0" 26) RE: Going to Boston... by Sharon Henderson 27) RE: Chemical Warefare by "Gaston Graf" 28) =?iso-8859-1?B?UkU6INLBw8PW0NfU09C7xr3wzt0s?= by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:44:21 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-2?B?UkU6INLBw8PW0NfU09A+xr3wzt0sbUBpbMTa19TT0NHVyOfT8S5HZXQg?= Message-ID: > WHO is this dude??? Mr. Spam, incidental list member ;o) Tomasz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:18:05 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Pfalz D.III Existence Message-ID: None listed in the Ray Rimmel book Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line 媼 I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "Graham Hunter" > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:48:48 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Pfalz D.III Existence > > Hey List, > > Does anyone know if there are any surviving Pfalz D.IIIa's at any of the > museums or collections. This AC is one of my favourites. The datafile has > several pictures of captured (French, British, Canadian, & American) > D.IIIa's but no mention in appendix of surviving planes. > > Regards, Graham H. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:22:19 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: The Martinsyde File Message-ID: <004901c01e2d$5daaa540$1be8b094@sandyada> > I don't recall seeing anyone mention this OT book in posts... Hi Charlie Some days there's just too much e-noise! I mentioned getting this (excellent) book back on 22 March but I think it was submerged under much more important bandwidth on NRA, cowling colours and suchlike. As you know, I heartily endorse your appreciation of this book and recommend it to anyone with an interest in pre-WWI or OT "Tinsydes". Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:36:27 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Hanriot question Message-ID: <008c01c01e2f$41da5de0$320106c0@acasirat> Dear Tomasz, yes, that square opening was common to Hd.1s. Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:44:30 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Ribs Message-ID: <009201c01e30$634b0be0$320106c0@acasirat> Dear Tomasz, FWIW, my favourite method is to use pre-painted decal strips. They are cut from a decal sheet by means of a very sharp blade, putting enough pressure to cut the film but not to cut the supporting paper, so that curled strips can be avoided. Strips (about 0.3 mm wide) are then transferred on the model as usual. Two light coats of clear varnish help fizing them in place. Finish up with very fine wet'n dry paper. You can see an example of this method at: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Casirati/RAF/index.html All the very best, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:46:23 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: Hanriot question Message-ID: Thank you Alberto, I have to find my old wood saw ;o) Also one more question for you. I'd like to make Scaroni's CDL HD.1 (I cannot recall its s/n at the moment). I have two photos of the aircraft: one taken from the starboard without black fuselage trimming and one taken after crash with black trimming applied. Do you know when the trimming was added. Also do you know more than these two photos of Scaroni's plane? Tomasz Gronczewski ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 05:27:57 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Nieuport monoplanes Message-ID: <200009141027.DAA22199@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 03:29:19 -0400 (EDT), Alberto Casirati wrote: > Does anyone know about currently available and non-available kits (both in > 1/72nd and 1/48th scale) of any of the early Nieuport monoplanes (II, IV and > VI) ? There was a Nieuport IV released from a CIS company a few years ago. No longer available, and awefully thick. Granted, if memory serves, it was accurate, just very, very thick. I have it around here somewhere... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:27:03 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Rhinebeck Message-ID: <012c01c01e36$536a0c20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I wrote, referring to T-rexs: > > In this case, I'd rather see a nice replica than the real beast. It's safer > > for the audience. Eli replied, thinking on aeroplanes: > Safer for the people putting on the show, too. The folks at Rhinebeck are > almost all working stiffs with day jobs. Wich is even more amazing and a reason to take off my hat and salute them. I'd feel privileged to help at that aerodrome (or any other where antique planes fly) even selling popcorn. My own glider instructor -who once was national and later southamerican champion of sailplanes- worked hard as a lawyer. When people noted his devotion to flying, he said "well, I also work at the court as a hobby". D. I guess that he was an excellent pilot because vultures fly so well... ;-) (sorry, Mike) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:58:13 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Chemical Warefare Message-ID: <001301c01e3a$aea577b0$a438183f@cyrixp166> I am very interested in the use of chemical wepons in WWI. This has got to be one of the more ghastly chapters in the conflict. I am interested in whether these weapons were dispersed in artillary shells or from trains, basiclly when & how they were used. I feel compelled to say though, that flatulance anecdotes greatly diminish the value of the discussion. Are these really necessary? Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:33:11 +0100 From: "Andy Kemp" To: Subject: Re: The Martinsyde File Message-ID: <008701c01e42$d2ab7260$b21f6cd5@5120> There's a review of Ray's Tinside book on the CCI web site :-) Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandy Adam To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 10:29 AM Subject: The Martinsyde File > > I don't recall seeing anyone mention this OT book in posts... > > Hi Charlie > Some days there's just too much e-noise! I mentioned getting this > (excellent) book back on 22 March but I think it was submerged under much > more important bandwidth on NRA, cowling colours and suchlike. > As you know, I heartily endorse your appreciation of this book and recommend > it to anyone with an interest in pre-WWI or OT "Tinsydes". > > Sandy > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:33:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Travellers Ho! Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621A31@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hi all, I finally have Shane (tY) and Lorna (TM) visiting - safely despite a long trip from south of the border where the Mexicans live. I've passed on the "hello's" of those who asked me to, and have a bunch of "G'Days" to pass back. No wine tonight, we're saving our heads for the TV marathon to come (and the red wine and modelling fests on Saturday and Sunday!) Shane (Anyone watching the Olympics over the next two weeks - we Aussies all hope you enjoy it !) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:42:01 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Chemical Warefare Message-ID: John, after all that I know Germans first used gas they dispersed from barrels they openend, let the gas flow with the wind into the direction of the enemy trenches. Later they invented gas shells, where the gas was dispersed in the artillery shells. Will try to find more details about that. Gaston Graf Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > John & Allison Cyganowski > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 1:17 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Chemical Warefare > > > I am very interested in the use of chemical wepons in WWI. This > has got to > be one of the more ghastly chapters in the conflict. I am interested in > whether these weapons were dispersed in artillary shells or from trains, > basiclly when & how they were used. > > I feel compelled to say though, that flatulance anecdotes greatly diminish > the value of the discussion. Are these really necessary? > > Cyg. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:51:50 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Ribs Message-ID: Alberto, I took a look at your beautiful models at your website.... Is this method you described used on 1/72 models only? I wonder if the decal strips are thick enough to simulate ribs on 1/48 models. > Finish up > with very > fine wet'n dry paper. Could you explain this any further please? How do you use wet 'n dry sanding paper on decals ??? That's sounding much confusing to me. sincerely Gaston Graf Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Alberto Casirati > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 11:41 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Ribs > > > Dear Tomasz, > > FWIW, my favourite method is to use pre-painted decal strips. They are cut > from a decal sheet by means of a very sharp blade, putting enough pressure > to cut the film but not to cut the supporting paper, so that curled strips > can be avoided. > > Strips (about 0.3 mm wide) are then transferred on the model as usual. Two > light coats of clear varnish help fizing them in place. Finish up > with very > fine wet'n dry paper. > > You can see an example of this method at: > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Casirati/RAF/index.html > > All the very best, > > Alberto Casirati > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:47:45 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Travellers Ho! Message-ID: Hi Shane (tE)! Please give them my love and tell them "The Package Arrived Safely, Thanks!" :-) And after looking over the contents, I have come to the conclusion that the Floh is a silly plane that should have an anthropomorphic face put on it, and be sent to the Island of Sodor. ..:-) >I finally have Shane (tY) and Lorna (TM) visiting - safely despite a long >trip from south of the border where the Mexicans live. I've passed on >the "hello's" of those who asked me to, and have a bunch of "G'Days" to >pass back. >(Anyone watching the Olympics over the next two weeks - we Aussies all >hope you enjoy it !) We'll try -- but the networks have decided to broadcast during the daylight hours here, which means all will be concluded per event by the time we see it -- and we'll already know the outcome. Bummer. .. Cheers, Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:10:10 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: Chemical Warefare Message-ID: <002501c01e55$9e48d2c0$d7885ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> I was watching the History channel early this morning and during the course of a show on Japanese secret weapons they showed footage of German gun crews with gas masks loading gas shells into an artillery piece in WW1. They went on to show Italian AF Savoia Marchetti's dropping gas bombs on towns in Ethiopia in the late thirties! I'd never heard of this before. This was a lead up to the American belief that the Japanese paper balloon bombs that were floated toward North America might contain chemical weapons. Apparently this belief was born out when the advancing allied forces found a laboratory experimenting for this very purpose. I guess it wouldn't have work with V2's in Europe as the winds did not work in the Nazi's favour (especially when they keep blowing up on the launch pad). As Mr. Spock used to say "Fascinating". Brad -----Original Message----- From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, September 14, 2000 7:23 AM Subject: Re: Chemical Warefare >I am very interested in the use of chemical wepons in WWI. This has got to >be one of the more ghastly chapters in the conflict. I am interested in >whether these weapons were dispersed in artillary shells or from trains, >basiclly when & how they were used. > >I feel compelled to say though, that flatulance anecdotes greatly diminish >the value of the discussion. Are these really necessary? > >Cyg. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:19:08 -0500 From: Craig Gavin To: Subject: Re: Nieuport monoplanes Message-ID: Alberto - How undersize is the Scaleplanes kit? And do you know any source for them or the injection molded kit the Matt speaks of. TIA - Craig Gavin > From: "Alberto Casirati" > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 03:29:31 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Nieuport monoplanes > > Does anyone know about currently available and non-available kits (both in > 1/72nd and 1/48th scale) of any of the early Nieuport monoplanes (II, IV and > VI) ? > > I only know of the undersized Scaleplanes vac. > > I am looking for historical and modelling info for an article I will write > for the GMT (Gruppo Modellistico Trentino). > > Thanks in advance ! > > Alberto Casirati > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:23:12 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Ribs Message-ID: Alberto: I thought that the upper side of the wings' ribs were made from stretched sprue; e.g. your Nieuport 17 in FSM. When you describe the decal strips, are you refereing to the underside of the wings? Michael >From: "Gaston Graf" > >Alberto, > >I took a look at your beautiful models at your website.... Is this method >you described used on 1/72 models only? I wonder if the decal strips are >thick enough to simulate ribs on 1/48 models. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:33:23 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Nieuport monoplanes Message-ID: <200009141434.HAA06061@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:22:10 -0400 (EDT), Craig Gavin wrote: > Alberto - How undersize is the Scaleplanes kit? And do you know any source > for them or the injection molded kit the Matt speaks of. TIA - Craig Gavin I don't think you'll be able to find that one anymore. It came out years ago and I haven't seen it since. If ever you wanted to scratchbuild, the Nieuport monoplanes are perfect for a first start. The fuselage is relatively flat (except for the front part behind the engine) and the wings should be easy enough. I've been contemplating it, but with all these other models "in my way", I doubt I'll get to it anytime soon. Look to Mike Fletcher's site for some excellent drawings he has made of the type. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:40:05 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Ribs Message-ID: <020001c01e59$acd2e980$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I guess so. I used Alberto's advice to restore the erased underside of my Albatros D.II wings. It worked wonderfully even when I replaced the suggested varnish for a kind of Future polish. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Kendix To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 11:28 AM Subject: RE: Ribs > Alberto: > > I thought that the upper side of the wings' ribs were made from stretched > sprue; e.g. your Nieuport 17 in FSM. When you describe the decal strips, > are you refereing to the underside of the wings? > > Michael > >From: "Gaston Graf" > > > >Alberto, > > > >I took a look at your beautiful models at your website.... Is this method > >you described used on 1/72 models only? I wonder if the decal strips are > >thick enough to simulate ribs on 1/48 models. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:58:36 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: ot: Yes, about a burrito) Message-ID: RK states: >About ten years ago there was a mom&pop no-chain Mexican restaurant around >here that had a 2 1/2 lb burrito they called "The Hindenburg"....damn near >looked it too. My brother in law was the only one I ever saw eat an entire >one. We had a legendary place named Guy's Taco's back in High School. They had the famed Nuclear Burrito. It was famous for it's three day half-life. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:18:08 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D2=C1=C3=C3=D6=D0=D7=D4=D3=D0=BB=C6=BD=F0=CE=DD?=, Message-ID: <39C0EC2F.A310D7E6@x25.net> A Casino in Taiwan. I checked it out once. Doesn't seem to be much we can do about it. It is plan SPAM. Can it. Lee M. Gaston Graf wrote: > WHO is this dude??? > > Gaston Graf > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > > Skyperfectv's Good News > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:12 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: 伊妹中自有黄金屋,m@il内自有颜如玉.Get mail,get CASH. #7D5C > > > > > > ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ > > > > Skyperfectv'S Good News > > > > ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ > > > > \\\|/// > > \\ - - // > > ( @ @ ) > > +-----------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------+ > > | 伊妹中自有黄金屋,m@il中自有颜如玉 | > > |Website ==>http://www.skyperfectv.8u8.com | > > | E-m@il ==>skyperfectv@sohu.com | > > +------------------------Oooo--------------+ > > oooO ( ) > > ( ) ) / > > \ ( (_/ > > \_) > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:12:15 -0500 From: "Edward Swaim" To: Subject: Long-term effects of mustard gas Message-ID: <000901c01e5e$437564e0$0101a8c0@hppav> Mustard gas would scar the lungs and air passages permanently. When my dad was growing up in the '30s and '40s he knew WWI veteran who had been gassed. His voice was very raspy, as if he had permanent laryngitis. The story, related to my dad by my granddad, was that the man, Pete Davis, had rescued an officer during a gas attack, and that, somehow, his gas mask either was lost or didn't work properly, and he was exposed to the mustard. Pete Davis was in a segregated unit, and his officer was white. The funny thing about this story: my dad was watching "Roots" when it aired for the first time, and it had a character representing one of Alex Haley's ancestors who had gone to France and got in almost exactly the same situation. My dad has a theory that Haley heard the story of Pete Davis, from the same county in Arkansas where some of Haley's relatives were from, and that he appropriated it for his book. Someday I'll do the research... Edward Swaim Little Rock, Arkansas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:40:31 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hanriot question Message-ID: The hole is in the Chino HD1...I built my HD1 for the museum and patterned after Nungesser's Hanriot. Candice >From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Hanriot question >Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 04:32:19 -0400 (EDT) > >Hello folks, > >I have just finished third Albatros D.III and I think it is enough ;o) >Now I start preparation for Hanriots. I have found that Hanriot HD.1s had a >distinctive feature in the rear part of the fuselage: a big rectangular >hole >through which the tail skid shock absorber was visible. This feature was >not >reproduced by any of Eduard Hanriot kits. Were the holes common among >HD.1s? >Also were the holes present at HD.2s on floats? > > >TIA > >Tomasz > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:43:08 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Going to Boston...anything good OT to see there?? Message-ID: Hi Guys, I'm heading off to bean town next week. Does anybody know of anything OT that is worth a visit there? Also..any good hobby shops in the area....or book stores that may sell things like datafiles?? Candice _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:54:23 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Going to Boston...anything good OT to see there?? Message-ID: <023e01c01e64$106fd020$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Go where everybody knows your name. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Candice Uhlir To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: Going to Boston...anything good OT to see there?? > Hi Guys, > I'm heading off to bean town next week. Does anybody know of anything OT > that is worth a visit there? Also..any good hobby shops in the area....or > book stores that may sell things like datafiles?? > > Candice > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:08:51 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Going to Boston... Message-ID: >Go where everybody knows your name. >D. Aww now I'm homesick.... :-( and I'll never get that song out of my head.... :-) >> Hi Guys, >> I'm heading off to bean town next week. Does anybody know of >> anything OT that is worth a visit there? Also..any good hobby shops >> in the area.... Hi Candice, I don't know if Eric Fuchs' hobby shop is still open (I've been gone from home for a LONG time!) but I remember it as Mecca.... :-) Cyg, do you know if it's still on operation? Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:13:35 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Chemical Warefare Message-ID: To US it is fascinating today, but as it happened it was just shocking. I saw videos with long rows of gas blinded British soldiers, holding each others shoulder to keep contact while moving forwards... I have read about the gas poisoned who caughed bloody lumps of their own lungs out of their mouth... I personally cannot imagine to die that way, or to survive it and live the rest of my life without my eyes... I've got to confess that I would commit suicide in such a case. What would my life still be worth living for? The horror of war - altough it is referring to the victims of the Vietnam war - is well interpret by Metallicas brilliant song "One". I love that song, for its condemnation of war in general. Sometimes I do even feel guilty in some way, to build stupid plastic models of weapons and machines which often killed people in a most horrific way... That's a reason for me to do my best to make each of my models a unique piece of history. I once saw a sticker on a car in Belgiun - the owner was member of a plastic model club from Brussels - which read: Plastic Modeling is like holding history in your hands. certainly true Gaston Graf Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > As Mr. > Spock used > to say "Fascinating". > > Brad > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John & Allison Cyganowski > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Thursday, September 14, 2000 7:23 AM > Subject: Re: Chemical Warefare > > > >I am very interested in the use of chemical wepons in WWI. This > has got to > >be one of the more ghastly chapters in the conflict. I am interested in > >whether these weapons were dispersed in artillary shells or from trains, > >basiclly when & how they were used. > > > >I feel compelled to say though, that flatulance anecdotes > greatly diminish > >the value of the discussion. Are these really necessary? > > > >Cyg. > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:15:44 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?UkU6INLBw8PW0NfU09C7xr3wzt0s?= Message-ID: It's up to the list owner to filter such senders out of the list. This is certainly possible. Gaston > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Lee Mensinger > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 5:15 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: 伊妹中自有黄金屋, > > > A Casino in Taiwan. I checked it out once. Doesn't seem to be > much we can > do about it. > > It is plan SPAM. 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