WWI Digest 2620 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Re Arms & Armor by Sixmilfigs@cs.com 2) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by Ernest Thomas 3) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by "P. Howard" 4) Re: WWI digest 2618 by JVT7532@aol.com 5) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by KarrArt@aol.com 6) Re: The color ref by KarrArt@aol.com 7) Re C&C Inretnational 4 sale by BStett3770@aol.com 8) Re: Albatros C.III "Claw" Brake by "Michael Kendix" 9) Re: Engine rotation by MAnde72343@aol.com 10) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by MAnde72343@aol.com 11) What are you afraid to build by MAnde72343@aol.com 12) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by Ernest Thomas 13) Re: The color ref by Ernest Thomas 14) RE: The color ref by Shane Weier 15) Re: The color ref by KarrArt@aol.com 16) German Bombs by "Paul E. Thompson" 17) RE: Bubbles in Future by "Gaston Graf" 18) RE: The color ref by "Gaston Graf" 19) Re: Re Arms & Armor by David Solosy 20) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by Witold Kozakiewicz 21) Re - 1000th Camel? by "Sandy Adam" 22) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by David Solosy 23) Re: Re Arms & Armor by David Fleming 24) Re: Bubbles in Future by David Fleming 25) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by David Fleming 26) RE: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by "dfernet0" 27) RE: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by "dfernet0" 28) RE: Bubbles in Future by "dfernet0" 29) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by "Matthew Bittner" 30) Re: Re - 1000th Camel? by "Dale Beamish" 31) RE: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by "dfernet0" 32) Re: Jasta 19 Dr1 by "Bob Pearson" 33) Nieuport 28 PE detail set. by "dfernet0" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:58:27 EDT From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re Arms & Armor Message-ID: <57.adbad60.26e85e53@cs.com> The Fotofax series of Vintage Aircraft has four titles listed German Naval Air Service Sopwith Camel Fleet Air Arm 1920-39 German Bombers Shawn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 22:03:51 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <39B70597.C880A39F@bellsouth.net> Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com wrote: > > The next time I'm in the mood for a road trip I'll have to scoot over to > Nawlens and drop off this Combat 1/32 Me-323 Gigant for you. Please don't. I'd never build it. It's ugly. And it only has one wing. But yer welcome to road trip it to NO anytime you want. I may even answer the door if you let me know that it'll be you who's knocking. > Can you say 6' > wingspan?. 6' wingspan. :) > Getting you in trouble with SWMBO > is a LOT more fun than scaring you. :) Swmbo knew me for about 6 years before we even starrted dating. You can't get me in trouble with her unless you have compromising pictures taken after we got married. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:03:15 -0500 From: "P. Howard" To: Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <009801c01878$2ec0bfe0$8e928ece@phoward> Brent, I dread the day that my longing for a Macchi M5 will overcome my hesitancy over wading into Lonestar's representation of the same. So much work... New wings, complete fusalage rework, interior and engine to cobble together. At the rate I build, I figure by the time I turn 60, I can have the kit up to the painting stage. 24 years - Yeah, that should be enough time... Cheers, Paul H ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:12:47 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI digest 2618 Message-ID: <56.5463c4.26e861af@aol.com> In a message dated 9/6/2000 7:11:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << on, Don't be afraid - BUILD the damned thing straight out! >> Yeah, I know but I'm just that kind of guy, got to try it out on something else first, hate to ruin such a great kit because I did something stupid. Right now I'm trying to finish up my Albatros for the cook off, Just got back from 2 weeks in Florida and now I have to paint the living room and clean the carpets for my Daughters wedding shower the end of August. That means I have to build in the basement whenever I get some spare time for myself which is mighty slim right now. I just know I'll never get it done in time. Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:47:52 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/6/00 9:44:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com writes: << That beast must be a terror then! You are one person I wasn't expecting to hear comment on this thread. I doubt if RK will comment either. >> My fear is in the past tense.........Fokker Spider/ Handley Page 0/400- NEVER again (unless somebody pays me enough to buy my own medium-size country) I'd do another Gotha right now if I had the time! RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:47:53 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The color ref Message-ID: <60.6aa855b.26e869e9@aol.com> In a message dated 9/6/00 7:38:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu writes: << Someone once wrote me and asked for the exact FS number for the red on MvR's Dr.I. You just can't do it, Germans during the "OT" (On Topic) period were not basing their colors on an "ot" (off topic) standard from 50 years later. >> I agree, and even in this specific case, there wouldn't be any one red shade. A recent article in WW I Aero (by Toelle?) presented a chemical analysis of genuine MvR tripe fabric, and parts of the fabric had soot embedded in with the pigment, other segments didn't. EtH comes the closest with interpretation of "#@#%$%&^$ red" RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:54:05 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re C&C Inretnational 4 sale Message-ID: <3f.9f090e9.26e86b5d@aol.com> Hi Gang Set sold. Thanks to all. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 04:03:12 GMT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatros C.III "Claw" Brake Message-ID: >From: Mike Kavanaugh >I haven't seen it on any other OT aircraft >so it seems the idea wasn't universally accepted - - Mike: Claw brake was on the A-H Oeffag C.II; a picture is in the A-H FMP tome, se pages 243 & 245. No idea how it worked but I scratched one for my Roseplane kit. Michael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:33:02 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Engine rotation Message-ID: <4a.a90f0c9.26e8747e@aol.com> It's all in the gearing, those big RR's were geared. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:51:13 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <14.8bec635.26e878c1@aol.com> E, there is a weird tape available for painting tartans, and there was an article in FSM a while back, but decal 'stripes' cut from trim film, and artists pencils can help, and remember, day to day wear tartans were not the elaborate ones in the silly book! Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:59:45 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: What are you afraid to build Message-ID: <25.a85c8c7.26e87ac1@aol.com> Had to think about that one, the answer, to be honest everything, and nothing. I'm afraid to do a really bad job, or a sloppy second rate job. (Seem to come up with a few anyway, despite AMS) Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 00:44:01 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <39B72B20.3C1E009B@bellsouth.net> Merrill, Thanks for the tips. The artist pencils were what I overheard at the hobby shop and the idea of decal film wafted across the transom of my consciousness shortly after I responded to Brent's original post on this thread. As for this 'weird tape', was that a masking tape or some how-to video? > and remember, day to day wear tartans were not the > elaborate ones in the silly book! > All I'm trying for is a simple three color tartan. Like a Black Watch, or something just as simple. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 00:46:55 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The color ref Message-ID: <39B72BCE.D65DCE2E@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > EtH comes the closest > with interpretation of "#@#%$%&^$ red" SEE! I told y'all! However, it's actually ##@%$%&^$ red. /%] E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:58:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: The color ref Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C716219FF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> EtH says: > > EtH comes the closest > > with interpretation of "#@#%$%&^$ red" > > SEE! I told y'all! However, it's actually ##@%$%&^$ red. So long as we have your pronouncement on this I'd like a bit more help. I want to build Dr.I 425/17 *factory fresh*, not as it was on 21 Apr 17 Is ##@%$%&^$ red the former or the later. And if the later do I need a bit more $%& due to fading or a bit less #@% due to staining ? Signed "Confused" ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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Signed "Confused" >> Dear Confused Since this color was was based on urethranium276, it can only be duplicated under black light..... the staining was caused by the Jasta cat, so you'll actually need to add MORE *&*((^. For modeling purposes, the way to go is with a mix of lime Jello, creosote, VossCowl tint #3 and Future. Cousin Virgil, the Color Sherriff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 08:28:09 +0200 From: "Paul E. Thompson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: German Bombs Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000907081906.00adb9e0@pop.xs4all.nl> >Paul - Omega Models makes some 1/72nd resin bombs. Thanks Craig. The local shop carries some of their stuff, buried in ebormous piles of Aeroclub , Paragon and Eduard bits. Litterally thousands of items, which is very nice, but needs too much time to browse. Now I know what to look for I should find it. BTW, as often mentioned, here in Europe Future is called Klear. I couldn't find any in the Netherlands (although some months ago a Belgian list member said he found it locally). My mother brought me 2 liters when she last visited. I think that should last a while, so long as I don't use it to thin mar... whoops, promised not mention that stuff again. Also BTW, I've seen Hannover photos where the overspray is so heavy it is hard to see the lozenge on the fuselage. Is this an artifact of monochrome photography or a real effect I wonder? Paul. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:27:54 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Bubbles in Future Message-ID: Hmmm.... is it correct to believe that Future is containing kind of a solving agent, softening the decals, or even dissolving it if you are using to much of future? I found not floor covering product yet that I would use on decals but used cellulose thinner, a very aggressive paint thinner, to soften my decals so that they fit the surface perfectly. But cellulose thinner has to be used with much care because you cannot move the decals anymore after applying it or the decals would break apart. Cellulose thinner is smelling like most plastic glues and in fact you can use it even to glue tiny bits of plastic because it is dissolving the plastic like glue. I use it to dliute body putty. It is very similar to acetone in its effects. thanks for the info, Mike Gaston > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > bucky@ptdprolog.net > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:54 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Bubbles in Future > > > > > Gaston Graf wrote: > > > Another question: What the heck is that FUTURE stuff please? > > Future is the name of a floor covering product in the US. Its use > is kind of > magical with regard to decals and glossy finished on airplanes, > not to mention > a no wax buildup on my floor. I think it might be called "Clear" > or something > else in Europe.Mike > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:30:11 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: The color ref Message-ID: ROFLMAO - but don't forget to make a picture on ortho film after you finished the model :o) Gaston Graf Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > KarrArt@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:28 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: The color ref > > > In a message dated 9/6/00 11:01:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: > > << > So long as we have your pronouncement on this I'd like a bit more help. I > want to build Dr.I 425/17 *factory fresh*, not as it was on 21 Apr 17 > > Is ##@%$%&^$ red the former or the later. And if the later do I > need a bit > more $%& due to fading or a bit less #@% due to staining ? > > Signed > > "Confused" >> > > Dear Confused > Since this color was was based on urethranium276, it can only be > duplicated > under black light..... the staining was caused by the Jasta cat, > so you'll > actually need to add MORE *&*((^. For modeling purposes, the way > to go is > with a mix of lime Jello, creosote, VossCowl tint #3 and Future. > > Cousin Virgil, the Color Sherriff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:38:06 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "WW1 List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Re Arms & Armor Message-ID: <56EBF0EF4A03D4118C6F00902776597F10CCE7@s26pss4.pssc.wa.gov.au> I've got one on the German Naval Air Service. Will check the listing on the back cover tonight. ISTR a listing in an old magazine somewhere (Air Classics?). Will have a look.   David S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 10:48:54 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <39B75676.10CAF938@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> Hi, I have few kits I want to start but there is always something what gives me good reason to take another one. 1. BM SPAD VII - nice kit, looking buildable, but those wings, and its trailing edge brrr. 2. Please don't laugh - Eduard SSW D.III - that is not because I couldn't handle with PE or plastic parts on it but I like this plane so much that I don't want do make any mistake. 3. ot Broplan vac PZL P-7a - I have done some vac kits before but this one like SSW must be ideal. I have Aeroclub engine and guns fo it but I have better models to build. Right now I must start something easy to rest after fighting with 1/24 Hurricane. I think Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa would be ok. Next something more challenging - HitKit LVG C.V? -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:49:26 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Re - 1000th Camel? Message-ID: <001f01c018a8$8a6c4e60$35e8b094@sandyada> >> I have been told someone on the list had done a beautiful Rushton-Procter >> 1000th Camel and had a full set of colour photos from a contemporary press >> brochure showing the machine from all angles. Hi Dale My Blue Max Ruston 1000th *WAS* beautiful until I hit it with the last varnish coat, so I don't know if that's the one you're thinking of - results and story are at - http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Adam/Sopwith/index.html under Sopwith Collection - IX. However I'm replying to you on-list as I do have scans of all the relevant pages from the Ruston & Proctor booklet. These are four pages of b&w photos and diagrams with full colour identification. If you, or anybody else, wants them, let me know and I'll send them. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:02:17 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "WW1 List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <56EBF0EF4A03D4118C6F00902776597F10CCE8@s26pss4.pssc.wa.gov.au> What am I afraid to build? Anything that someone else has done better than I could ever hope to. Guess I'm easily intimidated. For example, I looked at Diego's Alb D.II build article on the Cook Up site and nearly choked with envy at the guy's skill (not to mention his eyesight!). So that model's out. Then I looked at Bittner's D.VI and got disheartened (at least I've already done a Hawkey Dr.I, Matt - so you can't put me off that one.) Paul Howard's Sop tripe's paint job was next to send me into a spiral of depression and self doubt and then I see what Shane Weir can do with a 1/72 joystick and my eyes begin to water at the very thought of it. Afeared of making a joystick now!   No, it's not any model that scares me, it's the ability of many of the other model makers on this list that frightens me most.   Casirati is an alien. Hustad a robot, and many of you others must be taking performance enhancing substances. :-)    Now leave me alone. Bullies.   Anyway, must be off now to see my therapist  to restore some self-esteem.    David S     ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 10:22:36 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re Arms & Armor Message-ID: <39B75E5C.22C88DF@dial.pipex.com> The Two series were run at different times. The Vintage warbirds series ran in the late 80s, following a series of some 40 books in the Warbirds series (all ot from later chapters of the Big 20th Century Book of Wars). The 'Vintage Aviation' series came later (early -mid 90s), and had a companion series of later subjects. Why they ran a second series rather than continue with the earlier one is anybody's guess, but may be to do with 'newness' or fashion. Dave BStett3770@aol.com wrote: > Hi Shawn > > Two different series as far as I remember. > > Here's the ones I have > Vintage Aviation (Black covers) > > German Bombers of WW1 > German Naval Air Service > > Vintage Warbirds > > #1 - The Royal Flying Corps on WW1 > #2 The German Army Air Service in WW1 > #3 R.A.F between the Wars > #4 The Bristol Fighter > #5 The Sopwith Fighters > #6 Fokker Fighters of WW1 > #7 Air War over Great Britain 1914-1918 > #8 German Air Aces of WW1 > #9 World War One in the Air > #10 Nieuport Aircraft of W.W.I > > That's all I know of, any one add to the list? > > Keep Modeling > Barry > Rosemont Hobby > www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 10:15:37 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bubbles in Future Message-ID: <39B75CB8.D7F642AC@dial.pipex.com> Gaston Graf wrote: > Hmmm.... is it correct to believe that Future is containing kind of a > solving agent, softening the decals, or even dissolving it if you are using > to much of future? Gaston, don't think of Future as a decal solvent. In modelling, it's use is as a clear varnish, which is much much better than any proprietry brand. It is very thin & dries quickly. It is a clear floor covering (varnish). The beauty of it is that you can clean your brushes in water. Beware, however, that it has ammonia as one of it's solvents, so don't use ammonia based prodct like Maskol over it. The equivalent here in Europe is 'Klear' or similar, made by Johnstons. The UK Klear is similar, but not identical to Future. You usually can find it in the supermarket. david ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 10:32:26 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <39B760AA.37D249A7@dial.pipex.com> dfernet0 wrote: > > > Some kits, I don't know if irreplaceable, but to daunting to start with, as: > - A Breguet 14 vac (with dihedral already molded on the wings!) Geez how can > I cut this from the sheet withuout ruining it? At the risk of teaching granny to suck eggs, this sounds like a job for Aeroclub's T-Al system !! > > - A Novo Vickers Vimy: I like the plane, but I feel that the fuselage should > be scratchbuilt, is very thick, but I don't feel like doing it. The amount of redoing needed to build a bomber, you'd be as well scratchbuilding !! > > - An OOP Airfix Avro 504, for the same reasons as above. This one is actually quite simple - main problem is to 'beef up' the fuselage depth with pc. For OT subjects, the ones I would say I'm "afraid" (or aprehensive) of building: 1) Eastern Star DH10 Amiens - I've never built a vacform or biplane that big (yet) 2) Sierra Scale AEG GIV - for the same reason, and the painting !! 3) Blue Rider MF - all those struts !! 4) Milresin/Sign Sopwith Schneider resin - for no other reason than that this kit is a work of art in the box, I don't think I could do it justice. (but if we ever do that C**#-Up......) ot, any late war Luftwaffe - those colour schemes !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:39:46 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <003101c018af$905978a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Great Idea! Thanks a lot, I'll save this message for the future. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Gavin To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 7:11 PM Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? > I steered away from the Hannover until I found a template with various sizes > of octagons available in a drafting supplies catalog. I airbrushed swatches > of white decal film in the shades of lozenge and then using the template and > an xacto knife, I cut them out one-by-one. After assembling what appeared > to be enough of the various colors, I placed them, again, one-by-one, using > the Datafile as a reference. It wasn't any worst than working on rib tapes. > And I was very happy with the result. Just an idea. - Craig Gavin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 06:46:33 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <004301c018b0$8205c1e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dave That's a good one too... In fact I start to think a third option, mixing Craig's idea and yours. I can do templates on celluloid or acetate film of two or three or four (whatever) different interlocking irregular lozenges and paint them in different colours. Then assemble the mosaic on the plane! Mmmmh... this could work on those Fokkers DVII also... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID BURKE My advice is this (and I am using > my advice, thanks), that except for the printed fabric on the wings and > control surfaces, the lozenge on the Hannovers was hand-painted. So first > spray the 'wood' surfaces with the lightest color of your 'handpainted' loz. > For me, this was a salmony-raspberry-type of color, which is probably > excellent in a white-winey-kind of sauce with brazed shallots. Mmm, I'm > hungry. Then, spray clear decal film with your other loz colors and cut the > film into strips. This will give your lozenges a uniform width (which looks > beter anyway to me). Then it's fun time. Take your X-acto knife and put > the 4 cuts at teh top and bottom of each lozenge piece. Do a lot of 'em and > then stick 'em on the beast. When I find all of the pieces to my Hannover, > I'll show you what I mean. > > > Dicta Ira! > > > DB > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:01:35 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Bubbles in Future Message-ID: <006701c018b2$9be07e00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Gaston: Future is an acrilic floor "wax" much stronger and thin than the usual clear varnish. There's different brands, Future, Klear, etc. Here in Argentina there's none of the mentioned, and I'm still experimenting. At home, they wonder why there's so many different bottles of floor polish! Regarding decal softeners, before visiting the US earlier this year and brought Dio-sol and Dio-set, I used to visit the local pharmacist and asked for a small flask of acetic acid (did I seplled it right? ;-)) wich is one of the components of the Vinegar. The advantage is that your model won't smell like salad if you make a solution of water+acetic acid to brush on the decals. This stuff, right from the pharmacist, is quite strong and I advice to make some test on spare decals before attempting the solution on a model. Besides, a higher concentration can help on those really tough decals. My 2 argie cents D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gaston Graf > Another question: What the heck is that FUTURE stuff please? I am using > nothing else but natural Vinegar to soften the decals. Sounds strange? Hell > yes - it's because we live in a strange world, don't we? But it' true! > > happy modeling ;o) > > Gaston Graf > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 05:16:20 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <200009071015.DAA21174@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 05:12:02 -0400 (EDT), David Solosy wrote: > Anyway, must be off now to see my therapist to restore some self-esteem. ROTFL!!! And yes, since I know him, Hustad is a robot. Hit him on the head and you hear a "thunk". ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:15:40 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Re - 1000th Camel? Message-ID: <005301c018b6$2526fb00$5034b8a1@darcy> Sandy > However I'm replying to you on-list as I do have scans of all the relevant pages from the Ruston & Proctor booklet. These are four pages of b&w photos and diagrams with full colour identification. > If you, or anybody else, wants them, let me know and I'll send them. I do! I do!!! Dale lozenge1@telusplanet.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:05:20 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <00dd01c018bb$84d6e240$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> David > At the risk of teaching granny to suck eggs, this sounds like a job for > Aeroclub's T-Al system !! Completely unknown to me. Would you elaborate? TIA D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 03:45:30 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jasta 19 Dr1 Message-ID: <200009071056.DAA26316@mail.rapidnet.net> I missed if anyone else has replied .. so far I have been unable to find it attributed to any pilot in either Imrie's book or the Dr.I DF special Bob ---------- >From: "Patrick Gilmore" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Jasta 19 Dr1 >Date: Tue, Sep 5, 2000, 7:48 pm > > Hello, > There are several pictures of a Jasta 19 lineup of Fokker DrIs that > include a machine marked with the typical Jasta tail and cowl colors, but > also a larger numeral "4" on the side. I was wondering if there was any > record of who the pilot was for this aircraft? My very limited resources > give no clue here. > > Thanks! > Patrick Gilmore ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:19:37 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: Nieuport 28 PE detail set. Message-ID: <00fb01c018bd$821e8e20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Some weeks ago, Matt B. recommended the Lone Star Nieuport 28 PE cockpit set. As I usually do, I followed his advice, and I wasn't dissapointed again! What a nice little treat for the superdetailer! There's more parts that I would wish to use, and enough to do a model without the cockpit plywood skin! A multitude of levers, bezels, two different basket seats, and miscellaneous innards. I just long for another improved 1/72 kit of the Nieuport 28 apart from the old Revell. Are you going to do an accurate vac of this plane someday, Barry? D. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2620 **********************