WWI Digest 2618 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Munson and Fokker D.VI by MAnde72343@aol.com 2) RE: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by "Paul E. Thompson" 3) Old Rhinebeck Reviewed by "Lance Krieg" 4) Re: Things To Do On a HOT Day in Texas by Steve Cox 5) Hannover Cl-IIIa by JVT7532@aol.com 6) RE:Engine rotation by "Neil Crawford" 7) Re: Hanover CL-IIIa & Albatros C-III decals by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 8) Re: Rhinebeck Airdrome 9/10/2000 by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 9) C&C International 4 sale by BStett3770@aol.com 10) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by Dennis Ugulano 11) Albatros C-III dracodile decals by "Mark Shannon" 12) Re: Hanover CL-IIIa & Albatros C-III decals by "Bob Pearson" 13) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by "DAVID BURKE" 14) Re: Hannover Cl-IIIa by "DAVID BURKE" 15) Re: !@#$%@!! Vegemite (OT) by Peter Leonard 16) Re: German bombs by Craig Gavin 17) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by Zulis@aol.com 18) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by Craig Gavin 19) RE:Engine rotation by "Lance Krieg" 20) RE: Albatros C-III dracodile decals by Shane Weier 21) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by "DAVID BURKE" 22) Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? by "Brad & Merville" 23) RE: Engine rotation by Shane Weier 24) RE:Engine rotation by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 25) Hannover lozenged fuselages by "Bob Pearson" 26) Bubbles in Future by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 27) Brushed ceramcoat (was Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build?) by "Bob Pearson" 28) Re: Hanover CL-III by Morg17ms@aol.com 29) Albatros C.III "Claw" Brake by Mike Kavanaugh 30) RE: Engine rotation by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:14:06 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Munson and Fokker D.VI Message-ID: <79.93f1316.26e7d55e@aol.com> The book was "German War Birds" a 1986 publication. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:20:00 +0200 From: "Paul E. Thompson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000906193739.00ad6bb0@pop.xs4all.nl> >The Merlin DH10. Sometimes it makes me laugh, sometimes cry, but always I >want to shoot the SOB who charged money for it. It cost so much I HAVE to >build it some day, and every now and then I take it out of the box and >sand a bit more off, but some day I'll have to stop cutting bits off and >making bits to put back on, and while that is a great part of the pleasure >of modelling, to be forced to it by someone elses poor workmanship is not >amusing. The Rareplanes Gotha I regret starting a year ago because I now have a years accumulated experience, and the inspiration from this group, meaning I could now do a much better job. Still, you can't wait forever. And thanks Gaston, but I was really wondering if there was a ready source I had missed. Once I get off my posterior and start I WILL enjoy scratching a bomb load. Cheers. Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:35:32 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Old Rhinebeck Reviewed Message-ID: I finally got around to reading last Friday's weekend section of the Wall Street Journal, and Lo! - a glowing review of the air show and collection. Since the WSJ is pretty hard to please, I'd call this high praise. If you've still got last Friday's paper, check it out. They spell "Von Richthofen" correctly and everything. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:36:12 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Things To Do On a HOT Day in Texas Message-ID: Labouring as usual Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "John Glaser" > Subject: Things To Do On a HOT Day in Texas > > Well group, it's officially 108 F in Houston with 20% (low for us) humidity. > Makes the "real" temp 112! Wanted to spend the day inside on OT pursuits > but unfortunately, have a major software demo tomorrow so preparations got > in the way. How's everyone else spending Labor Day? > > - JG > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:26:07 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Hannover Cl-IIIa Message-ID: <97.a589fac.26e7f44f@aol.com> In a message dated 9/6/2000 1:19:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << > Eduard did make a Hannover Cl-IIIa, the Argus-engined version. > > On the other hand, it is the only 1/48th scale Hannover out there. BZZZZZTTT!!! WRONG! You are forgetting the wonderful 1/48 CL.IIIa by Koster Aero Enterprises, and it may still be available thru GreatModels Webstore. >> DB< The Koster kit is available from them as I just received mine this past week, and all I can say about it is that it's one very nice looking kit. Having never built a vacuform kit before, I have some other vac's I will practice on before I step up to this baby. It has Resin tailplanes and lot's of metal parts wheels, engine, gear etc. as well as a full set of decals including lozenge. One of the best looking kits I have seen in the media. Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:26:55 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: RE:Engine rotation Message-ID: <20000906203452.ZFG14274.fep04-svc.swip.net@default> ---------- Från: NEIL CRAWFORD Till: neil.crawford@swipnet.se Ämne: rr Datum: den 6 september 2000 09:00 --- Received from IT13.NEIL 031-666431 00-09-06 10:22 -> neil.crawford(a)swipnet.se When I was building my DH4A I spent a lot of time checking direction of propellor rotation. I got completely confused , because I saw both directions. Finally I read an article about the Rolls-Royce Eagle, where it said that there was a version for the FE2d and airships, which rotated in the other direction. Those engines were available on the war-surplus market after the war. Also watch out for photos printed the wrong way round. Can anyone confirm this story? My friend who is an engine designer was sceptical. /Neil ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:45:55 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hanover CL-IIIa & Albatros C-III decals Message-ID: <85256952.00726491.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com> Hi All, Thanks to everyone for the info....I'll contact Koster as to availability... Anyone have any suggestions for the correct decals for the "Dragon/Crocodile" C-III? Eduard has the Dragon on both sides. Bob Pearson's excellent web site has the corrected drawings. TIA for any help Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:48:34 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rhinebeck Airdrome 9/10/2000 Message-ID: <85256952.0072A24C.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com> Hi All, Saw the posting about the 34th Annual R/C meet at Rhinebeck. My wife and I are planning to attend on Sunday. We are planning on visiting the museum as well as staying for the 2:00 OT airshow. Anyone else planning on attending Sunday? If so, maybe we can have an informal list gathering. Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:52:17 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: C&C International 4 sale Message-ID: <5c.4eaf49.26e80881@aol.com> Hi Gang Just picked up a collection of Cross & Cockade Great Britain (International) Vol. #1 1970 to Vol. #28 1997 whole set for $475.00 , which includes book rate post USA (overseas at cost) All in excellent shape. I'll offer to the group before I put it up the general public. I'm not at the shop so E-mail me bstett3770@aol.com I'll be back on line latter tonite Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:18:46 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <200009061619_MC2-B254-AEDD@compuserve.com> Brent, My hardest kit was the Wing 72 Lohner L Seaplane. I wanted that kit so bad but it took me 3 months just to open the package. I took me a year and a half to complete it. Actually I build two at the same time. One for me, one for Wings 72. I still have mind, the post office took care of his. The Rareplanes Gotha was my second vac and it is still in one piece. Will try and get it up and running on my web site this year. Skills were severely lacking at the time. I could do a much better job now that I have the Aeroclub Gotha metal package. No such animal when I built mine. Plane I want to build but haven't worked up the nerve: Aeroclub Flexistowe Big and beautiful and dazzle schemes that make the eyes water. nb: SPAD XI is nearing the rigging stage. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 8/21/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:57:50 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Albatros C-III dracodile decals Message-ID: I do not know of anyone who has issued these, unless it is somewhere in the Gryphon/Americal line (which I doubt). Most of us who made this aircraft made our own decals from Bob's drawings. I did mine in two layers, on clear with a white underdecal. I think I would just use the white decal were I to do it again. I do not know if you can persuade, cajole, or bribe one of the Alps printer owners into running off some for you, but this would probably be the easiest way to do them (on clear decal film, since Alps will give a good opaque white base.) I think the decals drawings came out just a hair too large to fit cleanly on the kit -- I redid mine at something like 98% to get it done, but that could have been all kinds of interface things like the printer output, copier output, paper reaction to humidity, etc. It does make a fairly spectacular two-seater, though, doesn't it. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:01:11 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hanover CL-IIIa & Albatros C-III decals Message-ID: <200009062117.OAA03091@mail.rapidnet.net> The Dragodile profile and drawing at http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Pearson/ are from the 1/24 originals I used when I did the OTF cover. They have been rescaled for 1/48 and 1/72 at the site. Joey Valenciano has also taken these images and made electronic files, until I get around to redoing them on computer, these are the best sources to have these markings done on ALPS. .. Bob ---------- >From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Hanover CL-IIIa & Albatros C-III decals >Date: Wed, Sep 6, 2000, 1:51 pm > > > > Hi All, > > Thanks to everyone for the info....I'll contact Koster as to availability... > > Anyone have any suggestions for the correct decals for the "Dragon/Crocodile" > C-III? Eduard has the Dragon on both sides. Bob Pearson's excellent web site > has the corrected drawings. TIA for any help > > Regards, > John > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:16:14 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <000901c01847$b1cb28c0$2794aec7@com> I am afraid to build my body into something vaguely human. DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:19:24 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Hannover Cl-IIIa Message-ID: <002101c01848$3a684dc0$2794aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:11 PM Subject: Hannover Cl-IIIa > In a message dated 9/6/2000 1:19:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: > > << > Eduard did make a Hannover Cl-IIIa, the Argus-engined version. > > > On the other hand, it is the only 1/48th scale Hannover out there. > > BZZZZZTTT!!! WRONG! You are forgetting the wonderful 1/48 CL.IIIa by > Koster Aero Enterprises, and it may still be available thru GreatModels > Webstore. >> > DB< The Koster kit is available from them as I just received mine this past > week, and all I can say about it is that it's one very nice looking kit. > Having never built a vacuform kit before, I have some other vac's I will > practice on before I step up to this baby. It has Resin tailplanes and lot's > of metal parts wheels, engine, gear etc. as well as a full set of decals > including lozenge. One of the best looking kits I have seen in the media. > > Best regards, > Jon Jon, Don't be afraid - BUILD the damned thing straight out! You will be surprised at how nice it all goes together, and you will join our ranks of vac-heads as a proud new member. Build it Jon, don't worry about it. Any questions on doing it, ask me or the rest of the List. I'm sure that we can talk you thru it! DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 22:45:46 +0100 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: !@#$%@!! Vegemite (OT) Message-ID: <39B6BB09.A597A728@cwcom.net> To bring this thread back on topic, Vegemite makes a great paint stripper. But whatever you do not apply it direct to the model .It is only necessary to breath on the painted surface after first consuming a Vegemite and anchovie sarnie. hth Peter L Shane Weier wrote: > TC, > > > Everybody knows Australians are crazy! > > Guilty M'lud. > > > !@#$%!! enough already!!!! > > Just for that I won't tell you about the neato ot exhibits at the Air Museum > where I intend to spend my Friday morning layover in Darwin. > > Rustle, rustle.....crash....curses.... > > Matt !! Where the hell is that tongue poking emoticon when I need it! > > Shane > > (Yes, crazy. Spent last Sunday making round louvred panels for an LVG - with > real aluminium and with real louvres. Paint on the Snipe has to dry > sometime) > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 16:55:38 -0500 From: Craig Gavin To: Subject: Re: German bombs Message-ID: Paul - Omega Models makes some 1/72nd resin bombs. They say that they're "Russian" but they look close to German types. I purchased mine from VAMP Models (Lubos Vinar). There's three large bombs and four medium bombs, molded with fins and then round fin projectors (not sure of correct nomenclature). Maybe someone else on the list has seen these and can provide more specifics. - Craig Gavin > From: "Paul E. Thompson" > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:02:05 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: German bombs > > Hello all. I promise never to use the m(armite) word again. Further to the > thread on casting pieces, does anyone know of a source of suitable ordnance > for the Rareplanes 1/72 Gotha? The ones on the sheet are beyond my ability > to use except as a guide, and it would be nice to use different sizes as > well. I could always use up some Milliput and plastic card but rigging the > Gotha doesn't leave much spare energy unless absolutely needed (OK, so I'm > a lazy so and so). TIA, even if the answers 'no'. > > Paul. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:02:57 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <75.949c19f.26e81911@aol.com> Well, this requires a bit of preamble. I had been told that the two most difficult things about WWI modelling is lozenging and rigging. I tried my first rigging about six months ago - not entirely happy with it, but I am trying something different on this one and we'll see how it goes. My current project (Roden Fok D.VI) is the first lozenge project and, aside from having to replace the kit lozenge with after-market, it has been almost embarassingly easy. I have no idea why I let this aspect worry me. Why am I mentioning this? Because I have a bunch of larger project kits in my cupboard (an Il'ya, a few Taubes and others) that I am just aching to get to. However, if my basic skills are still progressing at this pace, I am certain that I will be unhappy with the results of these within months of completing it. Perhaps I should wait until it levels off a bit. I cant imagine doing TWO Il'yas in my lifetime, so I sorta want to make it a good one. But, as Paul said in a recent post: "The Rareplanes Gotha I regret starting a year ago because I now have a years accumulated experience, and the inspiration from this group, meaning I could now do a much better job. Still, you can't wait forever." cant wait forever...... hmmmm...... Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:09:02 -0500 From: Craig Gavin To: Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: I steered away from the Hannover until I found a template with various sizes of octagons available in a drafting supplies catalog. I airbrushed swatches of white decal film in the shades of lozenge and then using the template and an xacto knife, I cut them out one-by-one. After assembling what appeared to be enough of the various colors, I placed them, again, one-by-one, using the Datafile as a reference. It wasn't any worst than working on rib tapes. And I was very happy with the result. Just an idea. - Craig Gavin > From: "dfernet0" > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:02:54 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: What are YOU Afraid to Build? > > Brent asked >> What are YOU Afraid to Build? >> I'm interested in what kits have ya'll purchased that you won't start. It >> would also be fun to discuss which kits were daunting but the modeler >> persevered and completed. > > Some kits, I don't know if irreplaceable, but to daunting to start with, as: > - A Breguet 14 vac (with dihedral already molded on the wings!) Geez how can > I cut this from the sheet withuout ruining it? > - A Novo Vickers Vimy: I like the plane, but I feel that the fuselage should > be scratchbuilt, is very thick, but I don't feel like doing it. > - An OOP Airfix Avro 504, for the same reasons as above. > - A 50s vintage Revell kit of a 1913 Mercedes touring car. The kit is > excellent, but the plastic is odd and I'm afraid to ruin it. > Besides some "parts" of kits that I don't dare to scratch, as the > undercarriage of the Bristol Fighter, or don't dare to paint, as the > irregular, subdued lozenge on the Airfix Hannover fuselage (yes, I know, > there are non-lozenged hannovers, but I WANT a lozenged machine!) > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 17:15:21 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE:Engine rotation Message-ID: Recall that the Fe2 and airship applications were for pushers, and so needed a different blade orientation for the prop to "bite" into the wind. On the other hand, the twin Eagles on the earlier Felixstowe F2As were "handed" tractors, so there was clearly a way to use those engines to spin propellers in two different directions. Or am I confused? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:17:49 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Albatros C-III dracodile decals Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C716219EE@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mark answers: > Most > of us who made this aircraft made our own decals from Bob's > drawings. I did mine in two layers, on clear with a white > underdecal. I think I would just use the white decal were I > to do it again. Bob adds: > Joey Valenciano has also taken these images and made > electronic files, > until I get around to redoing them on computer, these are the > best sources > to have these markings done on ALPS. .. and my contribution is: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Valenciano/index.html HTH Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:21:34 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <001d01c01850$e48d7520$e28caec7@com> The kit is (yes, I know, > > there are non-lozenged hannovers, but I WANT a lozenged machine!) > > D. > > > Hey, they're the only ones worth doing! My advice is this (and I am using my advice, thanks), that except for the printed fabric on the wings and control surfaces, the lozenge on the Hannovers was hand-painted. So first spray the 'wood' surfaces with the lightest color of your 'handpainted' loz. For me, this was a salmony-raspberry-type of color, which is probably excellent in a white-winey-kind of sauce with brazed shallots. Mmm, I'm hungry. Then, spray clear decal film with your other loz colors and cut the film into strips. This will give your lozenges a uniform width (which looks beter anyway to me). Then it's fun time. Take your X-acto knife and put the 4 cuts at teh top and bottom of each lozenge piece. Do a lot of 'em and then stick 'em on the beast. When I find all of the pieces to my Hannover, I'll show you what I mean. Dicta Ira! DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:26:04 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build? Message-ID: <005e01c01851$725ba480$09895ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Hasegawa 1/8 SE5a and Model Expo 1/16 Albatros DVa. They might as well be 1/1 scale!! Hmmm.... maybe it's time to clean out the garage.... Oh Honey, dearest.....!!!! Brad nb: Eduard Alb.DV and trying to get the Ceramcoat to adhere in an even fashion. Does anyone have a recipe for mixing this with another medium to make it more brush friendly. (I know, I know, buy an airbrush. Any other suggestions?) -----Original Message----- From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:48 AM Subject: What are YOU Afraid to Build? >Howdy! > >I was just sitting here and wondered if ya'll have the same issues that I >do concerning some of my kits. I have in my unbuilt collection a few >expensive, difficult (if not impossible) to replace kits. I pull these down >fondly when I'm cycling thru my stash and think "Someday I'll be able to >build this". For I am afraid of beginning these models and not being able >to complete them due to my ineptness as a modeler. Or worse, I'll botch >something and I won't be able to get a replacement. > >Here's my list of OT kits I fear: > >Meikraft Caproni Ca.III >TC Models Vickers Vimy >Rare Planes Gotha IV > >The plus side of this is I have faced my fear and started a couple that a >short while ago I wouldn't have dreamed of starting. They include the Blue >Max, Tom's Modelworks and Copperstate Halberstadts and the Aeroclub Re-8. >Of these the Re-8 will be first to completion. > >I'm interested in what kits have ya'll purchased that you won't start. It >would also be fun to discuss which kits were daunting but the modeler >persevered and completed. > >Later! > >Brent > >nb: Still concentrating on Dilthey's and Balatre's Albatrossen for the >cookup. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:31:11 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Engine rotation Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C716219EF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Lance points out: > On the other hand, the twin Eagles on the earlier Felixstowe > F2As were "handed" tractors, so there was clearly a way to > use those engines to spin propellers in two different directions. > Just to confuse the issue, it is perfectly feasible for an aircraft to have two engines which have crankshafts which turn in the same direction - while the prop on one goes clockwise and on the other it goes counterclockwise. Think "geared drive" and the answer is obvious, the engine can be the same but the drive gearing differs. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:37:27 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE:Engine rotation Message-ID: Howdy! >Recall that the Fe2 and airship applications were for pushers, and so needed a different >blade orientation for the prop to "bite" into the wind. Hey, I don't *know* but couldn't you reverse the thrust just by reversing the pitch? Case in point... You have a Sopwith Pup with a normal tractor setup. Compare that to a Dh-2. The engine is mounted backwards in the Dh-2, but the prop pitch is identical to the Pup. Or is that what you said? This is all very OT because I am building another Pup soon and I am about done taking a break from my Dh-2. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:41:43 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Hannover lozenged fuselages Message-ID: <200009062251.PAA07100@mail.rapidnet.net> ON my 1/72 Hannover, all I did was handpaint lozenges on the fuselage, these can be any shape you want .. there was no set pattern. When done spray the entire thing with a really thin coat of Prussian Blue .. or some other dark blue. Having said that I have also handpainted lozenge on Stark's D.VII in 1/48 and 1/72 (16 hours on the 1/48 - now I use Pegasus decals). This was also how I did the rear cover profiles for OTF 12/4. Boy was I nervous. . the cover was due at the end of the week, and I hadn't used the airbrush for a painting in a couple of years .... there were three Hannovers to paint, and each already had 8+ hours of work put into them before I got to the overspraying stage .. luckily when I peeled the masks off they were fine. I scanned one of these paintings as I added each colour ... someday I will have to have it made into an animated gif. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 17:40:36 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Bubbles in Future Message-ID: Howdy folks! This is a question for the brush painters I was treating my decals to Future last night and I kept getting bubbles in it. What causes that? Thanks! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:49:42 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Brushed ceramcoat (was Re: What are YOU Afraid to Build?) Message-ID: <200009062259.PAA07418@mail.rapidnet.net> > nb: Eduard Alb.DV and trying to get the Ceramcoat to adhere in an even > fashion. Does anyone have a recipe for mixing this with another medium to > make it more brush friendly. (I know, I know, buy an airbrush. Any other > suggestions?) Perhaps a few drops of future? I have only used it on large areas when airbrushed. . for the figures I have been doing I have to go over areas a few times to get a solid colour. I have also smoothed out rough spots by wetting the brush ever so slightly and then going over the rough spot while still wet .. too much and it removes the paint. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:49:58 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hanover CL-III Message-ID: <6.b24b8f3.26e82416@aol.com> Eduard kit No 8008 "Hannover Cl.IIIa", with its own good sized brass PE fret. No longer in production but one comes up every now and then. I think I just got the last one of Sopwith Hobbies stock, but you could check with them to see if there are any more. Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:02:47 -0700 From: Mike Kavanaugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Albatros C.III "Claw" Brake Message-ID: <39B6E937.C1D8833@earthlink.net> The Eduard Albatros C.III kit provides a "claw" brake attached to the landing gear axle. The df has photos showing a fairly long floor-mounted lever to the pilot's left of the control column which is described as the "hand brake". There is a cable connection just below the hand brake handle that apparently connects to the "claw brake". The kit does not reflect the cockpit "hand brake". It appears to me from photos that the "claw brake" has some sort of tension attachment (spring, bungee cord, ??) that keeps it in the raised position until the pilot pulls back on the hand brake lever to pull it ( or lower) it to the ground. . . . . long way around to my question: has anyone read or heard of how well this "claw" brake worked. I haven't seen it on any other OT aircraft so it seems the idea wasn't universally accepted - - and, if it got "hung up", I could picture the aircraft on its nose or with a bent axle. New subject: Courtney just mentioned the Squadron release of "German WWI Bombers in Action". Has anyone done any modelling of the German "R" bombers? I just found a book in the library, "The German Giants: The German R-Planes 1914-1918, by G.W. Haddow and Peter M. Grosz. They cast a whole different aspect into OT modelling. I'll bet Matt Bittner would be heading for 1/144th scale, at least! Now, there's a challenge. TIA for any info on the "claw" brake. Mike K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 01:02:45 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Engine rotation Message-ID: Did they really use gears in WW1? I wonder. Gaston > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Shane Weier > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 12:40 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Engine rotation > > > Lance points out: > > > On the other hand, the twin Eagles on the earlier Felixstowe > > F2As were "handed" tractors, so there was clearly a way to > > use those engines to spin propellers in two different directions. > > > > Just to confuse the issue, it is perfectly feasible for an > aircraft to have > two engines which have crankshafts which turn in the same > direction - while > the prop on one goes clockwise and on the other it goes counterclockwise. > Think "geared drive" and the answer is obvious, the engine can be the same > but the drive gearing differs. > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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