WWI Digest 2579 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Turnabout by "Edward Swaim" 2) Re: Turnabout by Otisgood@aol.com 3) Jasta 24 Noses by David Fleming 4) Rickenbacker's kill total by jhudson@hcsmail.com 5) Re: Jasta 24 Noses by Otisgood@aol.com 6) Re: A most delicate subject by "DAVID BURKE" 7) Re: A most delicate subject by "DAVID BURKE" 8) Re: meetings? by "DAVID BURKE" 9) RE: was; delicate subject now;Dayton/meeting by "Graham Hunter" 10) Dayton Meeting by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 11) Air Force Mag. by Lee Mensinger 12) Re: Rickenbacker's kill total by fedders 13) Re: Kookie, Kookie, lend me your coam by "Lance Krieg" 14) Re: Rickenbacker's kill total by "cameron rile" 15) Re: Rickenbacker's kill total by MAnde72343@aol.com 16) Re: Rickenbacker's kill total by MAnde72343@aol.com 17) RE: Rickenbacker's kill total by "Graham Hunter" 18) Caproni Bombers by MAnde72343@aol.com 19) Re: Caproni Bombers by "Lance Krieg" 20) RE: Caproni Bombers by "dfernet0" 21) Re: A most delicate subject by "David C. Fletcher" 22) Re: Americal/Gryphon Rib Tape Width by KarrArt@aol.com 23) Re: Caproni Bombers by ERIC HIGHT 24) Re: Caproni Bombers by Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com 25) Attn Chris Anderson by "Bob Pearson" 26) Re: Jasta 24 Noses by David Fleming 27) RE: meetings? by Shane Weier 28) Austin Model Show, Saturday, August 26, 2000 by "Mark Shannon" 29) Replic Mag - Eduard Alb. D.V review by Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu 30) Re: Jasta 24 Noses by Otisgood@aol.com 31) RE: Caproni Bombers by Shane Weier 32) Re: Caproni Bombers by Todd Hayes 33) RE: was; delicate subject now;Dayton/meeting by Dave Watts ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:14:21 GMT From: "Edward Swaim" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Turnabout Message-ID: The short story is "Turnabout" by William Faulkner, who went to Canada before the US entered the war to try to become a pilot. He missed the war, but it figures in many of his stories. One of his books, "Sartoris," is about a fellow who returns to Mississippi from France, where he and his brother (who was killed) flew Sopwith Camels. >From: "Mark Shannon" >Subject: Re: A most delicate subject >I remember a short story, I think by Nicholas Monserrat, about a >'fair exchange' -- two WWI airmen took pity on a sailor who was >about to be hauled off on a drunkeness charge and took him with >them on their night bombing mission. Turns out the sailor was >the >'gunner/torpedoman'... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:24:58 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Turnabout Message-ID: <44.6acfd28.26d68a3a@aol.com> In a message dated 8/24/00 9:16:18 AM Central Daylight Time, eswaim@hotmail.com writes: > The short story is "Turnabout" by William Faulkner, who went to Canada > before the US entered the war to try to become a pilot. He missed the war, > but it figures in many of his stories. One of his books, "Sartoris," is > about a fellow who returns to Mississippi from France, where he and his > brother (who was killed) flew Sopwith Camels. When I was in law school at Ole Miss, I lived about two blocks from Faulkner's grave. I can highly recommend any of "Mr. William's" writings. Though most are not OT, you will be both fascinated and astounded that anyone could write that way. A true American literary genius. Otis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:26:18 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Jasta 24 Noses Message-ID: <39A53089.DCBA3AC3@dial.pipex.com> Calling All Jasta Experten Anyone know what colour the noses of Jasta 24 Albatros DVs were ? TIA David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:41:45 -0400 From: jhudson@hcsmail.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Rickenbacker's kill total Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000824104145.007c3320@hcsmail.com> Greetings list members, Several years ago I was at a friend's house looking through his magazines. He was in the U.S. Air Force at the time and received a publication, I think, called _Air Force_. If I'm not mistaken, this is something published by the Air Force. In this one particular issue there was an article in which was listed all of the U.S. aces from all wars and the number of kills they had. Bong and McGuire were at the top of the list. But when it got down to Rickenbacker, he was listed as having 23.5 kills, not 26. There was a brief footnote saying that Rickenbacker's kill total had been officially lowered to 23.5 as a result of the application of modern criteria used in determining when a pilot gets credit for a kill. Has anyone else heard of this? Even today, when I see references to ER and the number of planes he shot down, its still listed as 26. Just curious. Jim Hudson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:41:42 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jasta 24 Noses Message-ID: According to The Jasta Pilots, only personal markings are known. The Albatros Aces book has a profile of Heinrich Kroll's DV showing "standard grey" applied to the spinner, panels, wheel covers and struts. Otis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:34:40 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: A most delicate subject Message-ID: <008701c00dda$5cb6f660$4981aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Kemp" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 4:45 AM Subject: Re: A most delicate subject > Isn't this why British pilots used to have the "obligatory" > hard boiled egg for breakfast? It seized everything solid > down below :-) > > Andy > That would explain some things. Also, I guess that in the Continental forces forces, the preferred drink is tea. It may swell the bladder, but IIRC, it isn't as prone to making the bowels loose like coffee. DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:39:54 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: A most delicate subject Message-ID: <008901c00dda$5eacfa00$4981aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:04 PM Subject: Re: A most delicate subject > In a message dated 00-08-23 23:02:35 EDT, you write: > > << > > > I wonder what will happen if some people of this list will meet for a > drink, > > or two, or three... > > My experience has been that it's always a grand time. Especially when > there's alcohol involved. >> > > Are there ever meetings of this list? Moreover are there any meets in NH? > > K-129 The IPMS Nationals are a good place to get together. I can't remember for sure, but I think I had fun at the last one.... DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:38:01 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: meetings? Message-ID: <008801c00dda$5dd2c6a0$4981aec7@com> Y'all gimme a holler when you go to Atlanta - I'm 2 1/2 hrs away! DB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaston Graf" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 12:40 AM Subject: meetings? > LOL - but maybe we should really think about organizing meetings when > travelling the world. We cannot meet all at the same place indeed beause we > are scattered all over the planet but it sounds good to me to meet with > poeple who live in the same area. I plan to visit Atlanta, GA and > Albuquerque, NM in 2002 because we have good friends living there. Is > anybody living close to one of these locations? > > Hey and if anybody plans a visit to Europe: Verdun is only one hour to drive > from my house. Same counts for Bastogne. I'll be happy to show you around > here. Perhaps somebody who speaks French could be helpful on Frog territory > ;o). > > Gaston Graf > Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > > Sharon Henderson > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 5:02 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: RE: A most delicate subject > > > > > > At Wednesday, 23 August 2000, you wrote: > > > > >I wonder what will happen if some people of this list will meet for a > > >drink, or two, or three... > > > > > >Bet one can hear the laughter still in Berlin like one could hear the > > >guns of Verdun still in Cologne. > > > > When as many of us as possible get together, I bet we'll have tons > > of fun. Many pretzels and peanuts will fall victim to our attacks; > > much beer will be sacrificed to our stomachs. > > > > BUT -- we must promise that, when the need arises, we will leave > > the table and go to the facilities -- NOT try to hang our butts over > > the chairs and let fly. ;-) > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:13:29 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: was; delicate subject now;Dayton/meeting Message-ID: <000101c00ddd$dc433760$fa0101c0@grahamh> The IPMS Nationals are a good place to get together. I can't remember for sure, but I think I had fun at the last one.... DB Hey gang the Dayton Fly-in is only a month away. We could have a grand time there, with original planes and remakes of the real thing in the background. I know I asked this question before, but who is planning on going to Wright Patterson? Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:32:13 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Dayton Meeting Message-ID: Howdy! >Hey gang the Dayton Fly-in is only a month away. We could have a grand time >there, with original planes and remakes of the real thing in the background. >I know I asked this question before, but who is planning on going to Wright >Patterson? Myself and three friends will be attending. Plans can change at a minutes notice, but we all intend to go. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:48:26 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, lemen@x25.net Subject: Air Force Mag. Message-ID: <39A543CA.ADD2AE30@x25.net> ot The Air Force Mag. Very little historic information. Most about modern day items. I can assure you the Air Force magazine is not a publication of the U. S. Air Force and they have little to do with the magazine. Co-operation does exist at a no "extra" cost level. No public funds are, or have ever been, used to assist or support the organizaton. Some P.R. photos and articles are sent as they are usually distributed to many magazines and news papers. It is the publication of the Air Force Association which is a membership group costing $30.00 per year or $450.00 for Life membership. The Magazine and the Group was established about 82 years ago to provide information to the public as well as people associated with the Air Service. The original idea was: Publish to promote Aerospace power and strong national Defense. To support the needs of the Air Force people. To explain these needs to the American people. The magazine is often sold at news stands and available to the general public. http://www.afa.org Not a commercial. Just information. Lee M. USAF Sgt. Retired jhudson@hcsmail.com wrote: > Greetings list members, > > Several years ago I was at a friend's house looking through his > magazines. He was in the U.S. Air Force at the time and received > a publication, I think, called _Air Force_. If I'm not mistaken, > this is something published by the Air Force. > > In this one particular issue there was an article in which was > listed all of the U.S. aces from all wars and the number of kills > they had. Bong and McGuire were at the top of the list. But when > it got down to Rickenbacker, he was listed as having 23.5 kills, > not 26. There was a brief footnote saying that Rickenbacker's kill > total had been officially lowered to 23.5 as a result of the > application of modern criteria used in determining when a pilot gets > credit for a kill. > > Has anyone else heard of this? Even today, when I see references to > ER and the number of planes he shot down, its still listed as 26. > > Just curious. > > Jim Hudson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:56:52 -0500 (CDT) From: fedders To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rickenbacker's kill total Message-ID: The number of kills of American and British pilots is largely irrelevant since saying that you shot down an airplane was enough. Many of Rickenbachers kills were on days where no Germans were shot down in his sector. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:04:15 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Kookie, Kookie, lend me your coam Message-ID: Paul seeks to: "... simulate the coaming [and] ... would like to get some alternative ideas..." I have done this with stretched sprue glued in place, but my preferred method is with Epoxee Ribbon from Duro (the yellow/blue stuff kneaded together to make green). It is stiffer than most epoxy putties and more inclined to hold a formed shape, but most any of them would work. Roll out a little "snake", and tack it in place with CA as you work around the opening. It can be tooled with a pin before it sets to produce eyelets or stitches, as well as the natural lumpiness of a stuffed leather pad. When dry it slices cleanly with a sharp knife. Many of the coamings on my models on the website were made this way, including the Fee, Sopwith tripe, and Italian Bebe Nieuport, if they look OK to you. As always, YMMV. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:15:32 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rickenbacker's kill total Message-ID: <8FC9F15ED8974D115AC40005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> Jim, >Just curious. Claims and victories are a constant source of contention and threads at; www.theaerodrome.com/forum/ I think there are two that are active now. cam AFC - http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:14:02 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rickenbacker's kill total Message-ID: IIRC, that was from the early '70's, some weenie decided to make up standard criteria for 'aces'. The 'revised' lists took away W.W.I pilots balloon kills, and W.W.II pilots 'ground' kills (strafing airfields was the W.W.II equivalent of the balloon strafe, every bit as dangerous). Anyway, the 'standard' rating included only air to air aircraft kills. BTW, 'Rick' like many other Allied aces, may have had as many as a dozen victories that were well behind enemy lines, and so were never confirmed, (Fonck claimed he got 52 like that, for a total of 127) IMHO, Rick was not as modest as his carefully nurtured public image, but he was too proud to whine about confirmations, (although he did mention the unconfirmed victories in two of his books-see what I mean?) Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:24:34 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rickenbacker's kill total Message-ID: The same could be said about MvR, and several other aces, however, the Allied system required 'independent' confirmation, by ground or balloon observers, or other pilots. Unlike the Germans, Allied aces engaged most of their enemies on the 'other' side of the lines, and could not get 'physical' confirmation (wreckage, etc.) . Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:32:58 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Rickenbacker's kill total Message-ID: <000201c00de8$f69f9080$fa0101c0@grahamh> The Aerodrome web site has a good discription of claims and victories for WWI air services. The Germans were by far the strictest (and probably most accurate), with the French a close second. There is one list article that ranks the aces based on WWII victory criterea. The most interesting is France's Fonk (sic) WWI score compared to his WWI - 75 WWI and 73 for WWII. Pretty damn close. Graham H. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of fedders Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:01 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Rickenbacker's kill total The number of kills of American and British pilots is largely irrelevant since saying that you shot down an airplane was enough. Many of Rickenbachers kills were on days where no Germans were shot down in his sector. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:39:47 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Caproni Bombers Message-ID: I asked the list about kits of the Caproni bombers a couple of days ago, and no replies, are there any, especially the triplane versions? Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:43:36 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Caproni Bombers Message-ID: Not in 1/48, at least, dammit. Hey Eric, this would be a good project for CSM... >>> MAnde72343@aol.com 08/24/00 11:43AM >>> I asked the list about kits of the Caproni bombers a couple of days ago, and no replies, are there any, especially the triplane versions? Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:57:16 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Caproni Bombers Message-ID: <008b01c00dec$5bdc96c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ex list member Franco Poloni built a Meikraft kit, in the one and only possible scale (1/72!) Have you checked the Hannant's search page? Even if you don't plan to buy from them, is an excellent reference for models and manufacturers available. And they even list big scale models for the sake of completness! regards D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 1:43 PM Subject: Caproni Bombers > I asked the list about kits of the Caproni bombers a couple of days ago, and > no replies, are there any, especially the triplane versions? > Merrill > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:57:33 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: A most delicate subject Message-ID: <39A5620D.3DD02A4B@mars.ark.com> Gaston Graf wrote: "Combat pilots such as von Richthofen or Udet reported how exhausted they feld after a fight was over..." It's known as 'post adrenylin letdown'. In moments of high stress, such as air combat, the body releases great quantities of adrenylin to heighten performance. Subsequently, there is a necessary recuperation period whle things get back to normal, hence the exhaustion. On the matter of observers tossing their cookies over the side, this continues to this day. A pilot has either a window or instruments to keep himself oriented, the PBO is facing sideways or backwards, has his eyes in a viewfinder or is rummaging around for maps or Lewis drums. We used to have an artificial horizon in the 'tactical compartment' of the (ot alert!) Canadair Argus. When the wise powers that be took it out, airsickness incidents increased markedly. The ears are very sensitive to movement and if the apparent movement conflicts with what the eyes see, then disorientation and nausea are natural consequences. Been there, done that, but the evidence came out in the laundry... Dave Fletcher (7,800 hours as a modern PBO and 1060 hours driving airframes...) -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:13:22 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Americal/Gryphon Rib Tape Width Message-ID: <9e.8d99f85.26d6bfc2@aol.com> In a message dated 8/24/00 7:08:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com writes: << Hey RK! What do you mean by the "pinks"? Thanks! Brent >> Serrated edge, cut with pinking shears. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:06:44 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Caproni Bombers Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000824120644.006ca52c@pop.amug.org> hey lance, let me live thru the gotha first!! eric At 12:48 PM 8/24/00 -0400, you wrote: >Not in 1/48, at least, dammit. > >Hey Eric, this would be a good project for CSM... > >>>> MAnde72343@aol.com 08/24/00 11:43AM >>> >I asked the list about kits of the Caproni bombers a couple of days ago, and >no replies, are there any, especially the triplane versions? >Merrill > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:41:30 -0500 From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Caproni Bombers Message-ID: Merrill, >I asked the list about kits of the Caproni bombers a couple of days ago, and >no replies, are there any, especially the triplane versions? I didn't see your original post. As far as I know the only Caproni bomber kit available is the Meikraft offering. You may remember I brought that kit down to show you that Friday you came over. Speaking of which, we're doing the build session again tomorrow if you are interested. C'mon over! Later! Brent (952)806-5234 days ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:00:32 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Attn Chris Anderson Message-ID: <200008242015.NAA01795@mail.rapidnet.net> Direct email is undeliverable, so this is via the list. Your CD was sent today. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:15:37 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jasta 24 Noses Message-ID: <39A54A28.F5D5FA8D@dial.pipex.com> Otisgood@aol.com wrote: > According to The Jasta Pilots, only personal markings are known. The Albatros > Aces book has a profile of Heinrich Kroll's DV showing "standard grey" > applied to the spinner, panels, wheel covers and struts. > Intwesting. The aircraft I was looking at is D4545/15, flown by Max Wachwitz, and illustrated in The SS Albatros book (yeah, yeah another captured one.......). It's got a coloured nose - had a sudden thought, with all this ortho talk, that it could be a light blue. Suspect it's light grey.... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 06:33:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: meetings? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7162197B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Witold says: > Nice to see another "neighbor" on the list. I live in Poland. We can > meet some day. It's only ~1000km ;-) He's right you know. I drive three times that far round trip to make a weekend visit to my sister - about half way across my *state* ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:48:08 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Austin Model Show, Saturday, August 26, 2000 Message-ID: Just a slight warning for those who are intending to come to the show. The show will be in the Crockett Center, on Highway 290 near I-35. This morning's paper informs us here in the capital of the Great State of Texas that both highways at the I-35/290 intersection will be closed at 5:00pm Friday through the weekend to allow the main girders for the new interchange to be placed on the pillars crossing the highway decks. Traffic will be detoured onto the access roads and surface streets for about two miles in any direction. This will NOT prevent the show from going on, but it will make traffic in the area a bit tricky. One of the little twists that occurs when you have to line up the venue so far in advance. .Mark Shannon. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:53:35 -0400 From: Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Replic Mag - Eduard Alb. D.V review Message-ID: Just arrived in my hands, the July 2000 Replic magazine from France. (Issue 107) The is a four page review of the Eduard Albatros D.V profipack kit (No 7018) Reviewed kit built as von Hantleman's Blue/Red/Lozenge a/c with skull on fuselage sides. I do not read French, but one photo is captioned: "L'Albatros D.V... un vaste choix de decorations!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:23:40 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jasta 24 Noses Message-ID: In a message dated 8/24/00 3:11:28 PM Central Daylight Time, dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com writes: > It's got a coloured nose - had a sudden thought, with all this ortho talk, > that > it could be a light blue. Suspect it's light grey.... It could be either. Just don't say it's olive or yellow.:-) OG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 06:42:08 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Caproni Bombers Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7162197C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Merrill, > I asked the list about kits of the Caproni bombers a couple > of days ago, and > no replies, are there any, especially the triplane versions? I'm slowly scratchbuilding a Ca.3 You should take this to mean that at least two injection a resin and two vac kits will be available well before I'm done. You can thank me later ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:51:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Caproni Bombers Message-ID: <20000824215131.13666.qmail@web9001.mail.yahoo.com> Merrill, AJP Maquettes does an all photoetch and wht. metal Caproni Ca.3 in 1:48. About $180.00! T. --- MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > I asked the list about kits of the Caproni bombers a > couple of days ago, and > no replies, are there any, especially the triplane > versions? > Merrill > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:12:16 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: was; delicate subject now;Dayton/meeting Message-ID: <200008242217.e7OMHqw13161@ind.cioe.com> Hi all, Ernest, don't read this posting. I'll be at the show as well. I'm one of the coordinators, in charge of the vendors. And as long as I have the mike in my hand, I'll take this opportunity to cordially invite any dealers of any WWI associated products, (models are fine), books, relics, paintings, etc., to come and peddle their wares. 8' tables are $39.00, and you will be under a tent. Last year we had about 25 aircraft and over 20,000 attendees. This year we have over 60 aircraft registered and expect a bigger crowd. I'll have a bunch of spandaus on display with the re-enactors loading gun belts and "servicing" the machine guns, as well as my D.VII project; wings, motor disassembled, fuselage, wheels, etc. with the re-enactors "working" on the plane. Should be a good get together. I know Ernest will get whipped up again about not being able to attend....sorry about that! ;-) Best, Dave P.S. Forumnites could drop by the dealer/vendor booth or the Great War Aeroplanes Ass. booth and "check-in" for a get together "to be determined". Graham wrote; >Hey gang the Dayton Fly-in is only a month away. We could have a grand time there, with original planes and remakes of the real thing in the background. I know I asked this question before, but who is planning on going to Wright Patterson? ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2579 **********************