WWI Digest 2575 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Alb CIII Interior by Todd Hayes 2) Re: Zeppelin C.II by "Lance Krieg" 3) Re: Zeppelin C.II by Lyle Lamboley 4) Re: Zeppelin C.II by "Tom Solinski" 5) RE: Albatros Cookup: Albatros D.III Question. by Shane Weier 6) RE: Zeppelin C.II by Shane Weier 7) Re: Is it just me or is the List Crabby? by "Tom Solinski" 8) Another color questions.....duck ! by "Leonard Endy" 9) Re: Voss Triplane Color - about text format by "DAVID BURKE" 10) Re: Another color questions.....duck ! by "DAVID BURKE" 11) Re: Is it just me or is the List Crabby? by "DAVID BURKE" 12) Re: Another color questions.....duck ! by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 13) Woodman, H. by Morg17ms@aol.com 14) Don't delete - here's a completely different Voss question!!! by "David Calhoun" 15) RE: Voss Triplane Color - about text format by "Gaston Graf" 16) Re: Kids and Models by MAnde72343@aol.com 17) Anybody help on Junkers D.I details? by "Sandy Adam" 18) Re: Albatros DV radiators Painter or Not? by MAnde72343@aol.com 19) Re: DH2 cookup by MAnde72343@aol.com 20) Squadron Signal Publications by "Gaston Graf" 21) RE: Squadron Signal Publications by "dfernet0" 22) RE: Squadron Signal Publications by "Gaston Graf" 23) New site by "Matt Bittner" 24) Re: Albatros DV radiators Painter or Not? by Otisgood@aol.com 25) Re: Squadron Signal Publications by "Courtney Allen" 26) Re: New site by "Dale Sebring" 27) Fokker DVII and Jasta 18 by "roeyken" 28) RE: New site by "Gaston Graf" 29) Re: Woodman, H. by "Lance Krieg" 30) Re: Squadron Signal Publications by David Fleming 31) RE: Squadron Signal Publications by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:25:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alb CIII Interior Message-ID: <20000822212559.19907.qmail@web9004.mail.yahoo.com> All it includes are the seats. $4.50. Also the Hannover Cl.III detail set is listed as well. Also the o/w fuel tank. --- Dale Beamish wrote: > > >The detail set you're referring to was done by > Atlee > Models, now out of business. They're now available > through Rosemont Hobby Shop under the > Atlee/Roseparts > label. > > Thanks Todd > Dale > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:05:09 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Zeppelin C.II Message-ID: Lyle asks about a: "...new type of printed fabric that was apparently starting to show up on the Zeppelin C.II" That would be the "bubble" camouflage, which sure looks like printed fabric to me. IIRC, there were several photos of several planes decked out in this stuff, but the colors are a complete mystery. I can dig up the reference, if you want to revisit it. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:24:17 -0400 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Zeppelin C.II Message-ID: <20000822.182420.-164253.1.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> Lance, Thanks, I do have the Windsock issue at hand, but I was hoping to hear that more had been unearthed about this little mystery. An amazing and unique discovery---here's to the next installment by Pete Grosz! Best, Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:50:33 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Zeppelin C.II Message-ID: <001201c00c8b$611aaee0$12330e18@okc1.ok.home.com> > That would be the "bubble" camouflage, which sure looks like printed fabric to me. IIRC, there were several photos of several planes decked out in this stuff, but the colors are a complete mystery. Come on folks, given the last week, surely the colors are OD, Yellow, red, and black!! Tom S OKC If you aren't making waves, you aren't making headway! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:19:22 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Albatros Cookup: Albatros D.III Question. Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621971@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Brian, > > Are these the rounded fairing that appear on some aircraft as > the cartridge return trays? > Minor nitpick. The cartridges aren't returned, they get ejected altogether. The return chute takes the empty ammmo belt only. (This leads to the need for drilling ejection holes in the fuselage undersides between the forward undercarriage legs - see the drawings of D.5390/17 in Mikesh's book) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:22:13 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Zeppelin C.II Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C71621972@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Lance, > I can dig up the reference, if you want to revisit it. > It's in the April issue. April. Mmmm Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:40:40 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Is it just me or is the List Crabby? Message-ID: <013e01c00c92$6162d740$12330e18@okc1.ok.home.com> > > << It ain't a limerick > > And it ain't haiku > > >> > > > > There once was a pilot named Voss > > whose cowl color made us all cross > > Yellow or green > > y'all vent your spleen > > meanwhile I'm hittin' the sauce > > RK > > RK is a poet of note > >From his fingers the verses do float > On Topic and keen > Quandry: yellow or green > I think I shall go eat a stoat > And then the poet? named Burke, Was inspired to get his limerics to work, He tried to match float with the obscure word "stoat" Now some of us think he's a jerk. (Dave, I appologize now , the last one is a strong word, truely ment IN TOTAL JEST... but "...it rhymes and that's the best I can do .") Tom S OKC If you aren't making waves, you aren't making headway! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:04:03 -0400 From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Another color questions.....duck ! Message-ID: As Hop-Sing related to me, it was Ben's horse that was yellow, not Hoss'. :-) Now to the real question. After checking around and not really finding the info I wanted I was curious as to current beliefs on the 3 color scheme on the Alb wings. Red/Brown and Dark Green seem easy enough but what about the third color ? Similar to the grey-green on the cowl or more on the green side ala Bob's profiles ? Len ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:09:40 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Voss Triplane Color - about text format Message-ID: <001101c00c96$70192e20$b185aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaston Graf" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:02 PM Subject: RE: Voss Triplane Color - about text format > Hello, > > After my experiences threats posted in newsgroups or at mailing lists should > always be formatted as text only. Threats? Jeez, I didn't know that anyone here was threatening anyone else. I know that this Voss discussion runs deep, but come on... :-) DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:14:37 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Another color questions.....duck ! Message-ID: <002d01c00c97$28379460$b185aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Endy" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 7:08 PM Subject: Another color questions.....duck ! > As Hop-Sing related to me, it was Ben's horse that was yellow, not > Hoss'. :-) > > Now to the real question. After checking around and not really finding > the info I wanted I was curious as to current beliefs on the 3 color > scheme on the Alb wings. Red/Brown and Dark Green seem easy enough but > what about the third color ? Similar to the grey-green on the cowl or > more on the green side ala Bob's profiles ? > > Len Two greens: one which was similar to RLM 71, and a lighter green. At least that's what I gather. I could always be wrong... DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:19:32 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Is it just me or is the List Crabby? Message-ID: <005b01c00c97$fcf3b940$b185aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Solinski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: Re: Is it just me or is the List Crabby? > > > << It ain't a limerick > > > And it ain't haiku > > > >> > > > > > > There once was a pilot named Voss > > > whose cowl color made us all cross > > > Yellow or green > > > y'all vent your spleen > > > meanwhile I'm hittin' the sauce > > > RK > > > > RK is a poet of note > > >From his fingers the verses do float > > On Topic and keen > > Quandry: yellow or green > > I think I shall go eat a stoat > > > And then the poet? named Burke, > Was inspired to get his limerics to work, > He tried to match float > with the obscure word "stoat" > Now some of us think he's a jerk. > (Dave, I appologize now , the last one is a strong word, truely ment IN > TOTAL JEST... but "...it rhymes and that's the best I can do .") > Tom S It's OK Tom, I have dealt with it all of my life, and shall continue to do so until I quit living up to it. And for the rest who 'think he's a jerk', well, I got something y'all can jerk RIGHT HERE. :-) DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:10:50 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Another color questions.....duck ! Message-ID: <001701c00ca7$5c799ec0$9239183f@cyrixp166> Dan-San's choices in Methuen Code are Brunswick Green 27C3 (I used Polly Scale Italian Camo Green 505288) Rust Brown 6E8 (I used Gunze Sangyo Aqueous Hobby Color H47 Red Brown) Olive Green 2F6 (I used Tamiya Color Olive Drab XF62) I am happy with the choices. Regards, John Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Leonard Endy To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 8:08 PM Subject: Another color questions.....duck ! > As Hop-Sing related to me, it was Ben's horse that was yellow, not > Hoss'. :-) > > Now to the real question. After checking around and not really finding > the info I wanted I was curious as to current beliefs on the 3 color > scheme on the Alb wings. Red/Brown and Dark Green seem easy enough but > what about the third color ? Similar to the grey-green on the cowl or > more on the green side ala Bob's profiles ? > > Len > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:26:43 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Woodman, H. Message-ID: <3a.979e74b.26d49063@aol.com> Anyone have a copy of "Early Aircraft Armament", Woodman, H. that they're willing to sell - don't laught, I'm really hoping to get a copy! Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:37:34 -0700 From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Don't delete - here's a completely different Voss question!!! Message-ID: <002d01c00ccc$a041c360$320a3ccc@oemcomputer> Hi all, Now for something completely new, never discussed in the last 6 months and related to the Albatros cookup. We all are familiar with Voss's Albatros D.III with the red hearts painted on it. It appears that he got this aircraft in Feb. 1917. My question concerns his first aircraft, flown in late 1916. Anyone have any info on this? Probably a Albatros D.II, similar to the ones flown by Richthofen in this period. Anyone ever seen photos or profiles of Voss's first aircraft? Thanks, Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 06:49:07 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Voss Triplane Color - about text format Message-ID: oooops.....ROFL GG > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > DAVID BURKE > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:13 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Voss Triplane Color - about text format > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gaston Graf" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:02 PM > Subject: RE: Voss Triplane Color - about text format > > > > Hello, > > > > After my experiences threats posted in newsgroups or at mailing lists > should > > always be formatted as text only. > > Threats? Jeez, I didn't know that anyone here was threatening > anyone else. > I know that this Voss discussion runs deep, but come on... > > > :-) > > > DB > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 04:40:01 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Kids and Models Message-ID: Sorry for the late response, but on the subject of the Somme Battles, I recently picked up a book that I'm pretty sure is in print "The Battles of the Somme" by Martin Marix Evans, Phoenix Books, 1998. This is a good general overview, and is heavily illustrated, with photos and maps, an excellent general resource, and has an excellent bibliography. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:57:39 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Anybody help on Junkers D.I details? Message-ID: <005501c00ce0$494d8a80$16e8b094@sandyada> I got a very complimentary message from a modeller who saw my BM Junkers on the web page. He is building a large scale RC model and asks for detail shots over and above those found in the Datafile. Anybody else help? If you have anythig you might want to send it to him at the address below. Sandy Dear Sandy: My name is Dave Plahn, from the New England area of the USA, and I couldn't resist writing you about that jewel of a Junkers D.I you built up! I have the Windsock Datafile on this aircraft, and I've been using the PHOTOS from the Datafile to help me do up a VERY accurate set of CAD plans to make a Radio Control Giant Scale (1/4th the size of the original aircraft) version. I also have the Air International annual from 1984, I think, that also shows the Junkers D.I in a main article that even has a cutaway drawing in it of the long-span and long-fuselage J.9/II version. I've had an interest in doing up the Junkers D.I on CAD for about 10 years now-and I've been away from the Radio Control hobby for over 14 years now. The Junkers I'll be building will have fully corrugated aluminum (I know, we Americans leave out YOUR extra "i") paneling on it-in 1/4th size this works out to a 7.5mm "pitch" for the corrugations. The photos in the Datafile were INVALUABLE in revealing "un-noticed" details of both the Junkers Co, or "JCO" and the Junkers-Fokker AG, or "JFA" built versions-as differences in the corrugations on the fuselage and the fuselage cross locations differ slightly, for example. There was even a STANDARDIZED green-purple camouflage pattern created for the "JCO" built aircraft's wings/fuselage/horizontal stabilizer upper surfaces, discovered on close examination of the Datafile photos-and I may well make these available to everyone soon. The flying surfaces of my Giant Scale model will be of plastic foam core construction, for ease in building-then covered with Silkspan free flight model paper combined with 50/50 thinned yellow wood glue & water for stiffening up the foam-this is called a "structureless foam composite" style of construction, and should both save weight AND provide a good base for "iron-on" application of the corrugated aluminum panels. Power for the model is planned to be a Saito FA-180S single cylinder four-stroke powerplant of 30 cm3 displacement-the largest size methyl alcohol-fueled single-cylinder 4-stroke engine made for Radio Control model use. The engine is compact enough that the rocker arm housings will be below the exhaust ports for the dummy Mercedes powerplant I can purchase from an American RC supply house soecializing in WW I RC flying model kits. The model engine's exhaust will exit from the scale exhaust stack, as I intend to make it from sheet copper and it will be hollow right from front to back. The source for this aluminum paneling is a simple one-small printshops use "lithoplate" aluminum sheets for small print runs from their presses for all sorts of pamphlets, flyers, etc. and always discard the lithoplate material afterwards for recycling. We modelers can get the "waste" lithoplate for nothing in cost-or "next to nothing"...and a number of RCM & E Scale Special magazine issues from the UK, published in the first half of the 1980s, showed methods of how to corrugate the aluminum. I hope you also subscribe to Leo Opdycke's WORLD WAR I AERO quarterly journal-it's a gold mine of information, and Leo's periodical is now represented on the Internet at http://www.ww1aeroplanesinc.org/ . One publication that's really valuable of Leo's is his "Master Materials List"-this is now ONLINE at the mentioned website-and you can purchase photocopied documents such as maintenance manuals, drawings, etc. from Leo for aircraft and engines for make your WW I plastic model collection all the more accurate! I also intend to have the Junkers D.I I'll be flying in the coming years fitted out with the MOST detailed cockpit possible. If you've got anything that I can use in terms of photographs, drawings, etc. of the Junkers D.I-particularly of the INTERIOR details-that you used in detailing your model, I'd like to get scanned-and-Emailed copies of these, to assist me in detailing my Radio Control version. My CAD drawings already have very accurate depictions of the joystick assembly, with the fore-and-aft aileron jackshaft, and the rudder bar, on them. I'd also like to get-in particular, details of the left/right instrument panels-it seems like it was a "split" affair on either side of center, forward of the pilot-and exactly what instruments were in place IN those panels. My email is at thepipe@mediaone.net -and I'm hoping to hear from you soon! Yours Sincerely, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 04:59:48 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatros DV radiators Painter or Not? Message-ID: <61.69b02d6.26d4ec84@aol.com> Sorry, that was an old defective memory, some bit of skewed association, wrong bird, there was at least one Albatros captured by the Aussies in Palestine, with pictures surviving, I should double check myself more. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 05:20:23 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH2 cookup Message-ID: <9.9b83cd7.26d4f157@aol.com> Another screwy idea, how about a "other than biplane" cookup, tripes, monos, (I even have a vac of the FK 10 Quad) many rare and odd types available, as well as the Fokker and Sopwith, Pfalz... BTW , are there any kits of the Caproni tripe bombers? Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:09:10 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Squadron Signal Publications Message-ID: Hi all, does anybody know a good web address where I can order Squadron Signal Publications, preferrably in the UK or Europe? I found none yet. Here in Central Europe those great books are hard to find :o(. Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:19:17 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Squadron Signal Publications Message-ID: <013101c00cf3$fa547880$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Gaston >Here in > Central Europe those great books are hard to find :o(. > That's because you are a bloody hun ;-) BTW, I wouldn't rely entirely on Squadron Signal "In action" books. Some of the WW1 titles have incredible innacuracies referring to captions and the sketchs are to be taken with a grain of salt... however, at their prices, they are a good source of good quality pictures, but double check the captions. Regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:10:22 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Squadron Signal Publications Message-ID: Thanks for the warning Mr.D! Accuracies can be found in any book. I own a good book about the history of the Fokker Dr.1 which also has some minor errors in it, but it provides a lot of first class pictures. Btw: I am NO HUN ;o)! My wife is one, tough. I'm Luxemburger - no Frog, no Hun, no Belgian, - but right in the middle between, hehe. Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > dfernet0 > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:25 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Squadron Signal Publications > > > Gaston > >Here in > > Central Europe those great books are hard to find :o(. > > > That's because you are a bloody hun ;-) > BTW, I wouldn't rely entirely on Squadron Signal "In action" > books. Some of > the WW1 titles have incredible innacuracies referring to captions and the > sketchs are to be taken with a grain of salt... however, at their prices, > they are a good source of good quality pictures, but double check the > captions. > Regards > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 07:13:48 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: New site Message-ID: <200008231214.FAA12233@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Here's a new site that was posted at The Aerodrome Forum: http://209.235.66.44/WW1/WW1.htm Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:27:07 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatros DV radiators Painter or Not? Message-ID: <84.9e3dd13.26d52b2b@aol.com> In a message dated 8/23/00 4:04:44 AM Central Daylight Time, MAnde72343@aol.com writes: > I should double check myself more. If you shake it more than twice you are playing with it.:-) OG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 06:52:46 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: Squadron Signal Publications Message-ID: <001b01c00d09$6bc65280$b966480c@oemcomputer> Gaston, Hannants in England carries Squadron. Very good service as well. www.hannants.co.uk/index.html Courtney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaston Graf" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:14 AM Subject: Squadron Signal Publications > Hi all, > > does anybody know a good web address where I can order Squadron Signal > Publications, preferrably in the UK or Europe? I found none yet. Here in > Central Europe those great books are hard to find :o(. > > Gaston Graf > Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:02:47 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: New site Message-ID: <006101c00d0a$d21501c0$9fa58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 6:19 AM Subject: New site > Here's a new site that was posted at The Aerodrome Forum: > > http://209.235.66.44/WW1/WW1.htm > > > Matt Bittner > > Thanks Matt for the excellent new posting on WWI. Dale S. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:00:51 +0200 From: "roeyken" To: "modellflyliste" Subject: Fokker DVII and Jasta 18 Message-ID: I have found this referense: http://209.235.66.44/WW1/Germans/Jastas/Jasta_18.htm Is it correct that Jasta 18 didnt have any lozenege? spesially the plane to von Buren. I am actually going to paint my RC plane in this color scheme. Morten ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:27:21 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: New site Message-ID: I wonder how long that it will take until this guy will be sued by the authors of "The Jasta Pilots". Minimum the page about Jasta 2 is fully copied from that book. Well, we all take our information mostly from existing books but the trick is to avoid word by word reproductions. Ain't that so? Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Dale Sebring > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: New site > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Bittner" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 6:19 AM > Subject: New site > > > > Here's a new site that was posted at The Aerodrome Forum: > > > > http://209.235.66.44/WW1/WW1.htm > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > > > Thanks Matt for the excellent new posting on WWI. > Dale S. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:28:08 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Woodman, H. Message-ID: Tom wants: "... a copy of "Early Aircraft Armament", Woodman, H." Since I would never consider parting with mine - the one book I use with EVERY OT model I build - you might want to try the out of print sites like abebooks.com until one turns up. A viable, though less complete, alternative is the accumulation of the mini-datafiles on Lewis, Spandau, and Vickers, which are still available. You won't get drawings of the Marlin or Rivelli, but for a good, clear picture of common MG installations the minidatafiles are excellent. Harry Woodman consistently turns up great drawings and photos, as his recent articles on the W.12 and Breguet XIV in SAMI serve to demonstrate. I wouldn't let any OT Woodman opus escape my attention. FWIW Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:27:20 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Squadron Signal Publications Message-ID: <39A3DF48.70D56A5A@dial.pipex.com> Gaston Graf wrote: > Hi all, > > does anybody know a good web address where I can order Squadron Signal > Publications, preferrably in the UK or Europe? I found none yet. Here in > Central Europe those great books are hard to find :o(. > Most of the UK model & book shops stock them. Hannants www.hannants.co.uk Amazon www.amazon.co.uk Are two on the net you could try. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:31:11 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Squadron Signal Publications Message-ID: Thank you very much Courtney! I finally found what I was looking for ;o). Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Courtney Allen > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:02 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Squadron Signal Publications > > > Gaston, > > Hannants in England carries Squadron. Very good service as well. > www.hannants.co.uk/index.html > > Courtney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gaston Graf" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:14 AM > Subject: Squadron Signal Publications > > > > Hi all, > > > > does anybody know a good web address where I can order Squadron Signal > > Publications, preferrably in the UK or Europe? I found none yet. Here in > > Central Europe those great books are hard to find :o(. > > > > Gaston Graf > > Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" > > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2575 **********************