WWI Digest 2568 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Kids and Models by "DAVID BURKE" 2) Re: Basic Chemistry by "DAVID BURKE" 3) Re: Basic Chemistry (Was Future) by "DAVID BURKE" 4) Re: structural brass by "DAVID BURKE" 5) Re: DVII Favorite? by "DAVID BURKE" 6) Re: Sorry, the Voss cowling again by "DAVID BURKE" 7) RE: New Kit Survey by "John Glaser" 8) Voss; the thread from hell. by Ernest Thomas 9) Bleriot XI, -2, -3 and BG. by K129000@aol.com 10) Participation Not Required, was, Re: Vos [sic] by "S Karver" 11) RE: DVII Favorite? by "John Glaser" 12) Policing Discussions, Why? was, Re: Voss; the thread from hell. by "S Karver" 13) Re: Participation Not Required, was, Re: Vos [sic] by Dennis Ugulano 14) Web site update by Dennis Ugulano 15) Re: New Kit Survey by "Mike Dicianna" 16) Re: Favorite D-VII by "Mike Dicianna" 17) Re: Participation Not Required, was, Re: Vos [sic] by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 18) Re: New Kit Survey by KarrArt@aol.com 19) RE: New Kit Survey by Todd Hayes 20) Re: New Kit Survey by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: New Kit Survey by KarrArt@aol.com 22) Re: Policing Discussions - the thread of the undead by Zulis@aol.com 23) Re: Favorite D-VII by Zulis@aol.com 24) Re: Policing Discussions, Why? was, Re: Voss; the thread from hell. by Ernest Thomas 25) Re: Participation Not Required, was, Re: Vos [sic] by Ernest Thomas 26) RE: Triplane Progress by David Solosy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:05:56 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Kids and Models Message-ID: <03aa01c00b1a$1563ef60$2086aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 8:03 PM Subject: Re: Kids and Models > In a message dated 00-08-17 19:36:24 EDT, you write: > > << I guess I am part of the 'WW1 Conspiracy,' >> > > What is this "conspiracy." > > It was the PC flight sim Red Baron that got me interested in World War One. > This was years ago when I was younger. Red Baron 2 is out, haven't played it. > > That game was the greatest. I spent many hours flying Fokker E.3s and type > Ns on the computer. You can even attack Zeps, Gothas and 0/400s. Plus lots > of other stuff. > > Just a thought if you want to interest the young folks. RB1 came with a huge > manual, most of which was history. > > K-129 My copy of RB2 had no manual, but is the coolest game I own! The graphics, such as individual pilot markings and loz on the wings of German planes is too much! And the way that you can hear things like aircrew sceaming as they jump from a burning plane, or how they yelp when you shoot 'em. Also, when you strafe enemy troops they scream, and when you fly low over your troops, they cheer at you! Too Cool!! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:16:50 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Basic Chemistry Message-ID: <03ac01c00b1a$17291f00$2086aec7@com> > Pigment chemistry is a whole 'nother field. Things like raw and burnt Umber and Sienna (literally, soil from the specific regions of Italy) and terra verte (green earth). French Ultramarine (ground lapis lazuli). Bone ivory and bone black versus lampblack or Mars black. Litharge and all the lead and cadmium derived paints, then those new-fangled phthalocyanines and titanium whites. It's great stuff. You forgot the ochres. If you're gonna list 'em all.... ;) DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:10:38 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Basic Chemistry (Was Future) Message-ID: <03ab01c00b1a$1645c3e0$2086aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 10:48 PM Subject: Re: Basic Chemistry (Was Future) > In a message dated 8/17/00 8:15:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > mkendix@hotmail.com writes: > > << > OK, but then when you are spraying, the medium that contains the acryllic > paint is not dry and is carcinogenic? In other words, you are inhaling > material whilst spraying that is carcinogenic? > > Michael >> > > I'm honestly not too worried about the carcinogenic properties of the various > modeling substances. Exposure time is rather limited compared to guys who > work with these substances day in day out all day for 40 years. I take > precautions and I'm careful, but there are other more immediate dangers- some > of these things will rot you liver and kidneys before cancer has a chance to > get you. Even with acrylics, you still can get the particulates into your > lungs. Liquitex artists acrylics that have cadmium (and some other > pigments)have a warning not to spray. (I personally HATE spraying large > amounts of white- I take a deep breath, spray a little, then go outside for > awhile.) But again, exposure time and amount is limited. If I wasn't so > sleepy right now, I could cough up the Latin phrase that means "all is > poison, only dosage means anything". > Just don't go around telling people that "RK says you can drink toluene with > lunch!" > RK I wear a 20-dollar respirator mask from Home Depot and I heartily recommend them to all. Although I doubt breathing acrylic is as bad as petrol, it can't be too good for you. A mask is a good investment. You spent $200 bucks on a good airbrush and compressor, another 20 will be worth it for your health. Good to wear while dusting the house too. At least my apartment DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:21:35 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: structural brass Message-ID: <03ad01c00b1a$17e961c0$2086aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: structural brass > I'm scratch-building a 1:48 DH2 nacelle (along with the entire a/c, save for > extensively modified main planes from the BM kit) vacuforming the nose and > using 0.005" and 0.010" sheet for the rest. To give this egg shell some > strenght, so it doesn't spontaneously implode, and for strut and wing > attachments, I'm building it up over a simulated frame of fine brass. I've > done this before with brass rod, for tubular steel frames, but the DH2 frame > was wooden - square/rectangular. I lucked out in finding a fantastic source > for fine brass tubing, angle rod, H - channel, I - beams, square channel, C - > channel, etc right down to 1:32 inch! And cheap too - like $3 for 30 inches! > Absolutely GREAT for a multitude of applications. > > SPECIAL SHAPES > http://www.specialshapes.com Have a look! > > If this is old hat to the list, please excuse this neebies intrusion! > > Tom Morgan LET'S SEE NOW - there's at least 3 of us doing the BM D.H.2 kit. How many more to consider it the next cook-up? :D DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:30:29 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: DVII Favorite? Message-ID: <03ae01c00b1a$18ba6d60$2086aec7@com> Udet, Stark, 7 Swabians, Goering, and a bunch of others. I want to do an OAW one with the big handpainted loz on the cowl. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:42:43 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Sorry, the Voss cowling again Message-ID: <03af01c00b1a$19730f00$2086aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 3:32 PM Subject: RE: Sorry, the Voss cowling again > It is unlikely that a pre-serial Dr1 was already equipped with a LeRhone and > French prop. I took a close look at the pics of Voss' Dr1 that I have in > various books. It appears to be equipped with an Axial prop, like most of > the Dr1.s was. If you want I can scan you some pics and mail them to you. It > is planned to setup a special page about Voss at my website at a later time. > First I want to finish the Udet project and the history of Jasta 2 project. > > sincerely > > Gaston Graf > Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" > http://www.jastaboelcke.de Hey Gaston, welcome to the wacky house - poor guy! Yes, the pics that i have clearly show that at an early time, F.1 103/17 had an Axial prop and Oberursel engine. At some time, it was apparently replaced. Extra maintainence time for painting while the cowl is off? Yes? And is it NOT TOTALLY UNCONCEIVABLE that the aircraft was flown by Voss in a delivery scheme for some time before it got painted? I mean, IS IT NOT TOTALLY INCONCEIVABLE THAT EVERYBODY IS CORRECT, and that we all are getting perodical differences hanging us up? Think about it. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:50:00 -0500 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: New Kit Survey Message-ID: <000001c00b1a$80a18c60$8d00000a@jcgws> THERE! Somebody had to say it. RK had to move his 1/32 G.IV to Chino to have room to move around the house! - JCG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of DAVID BURKE Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 9:07 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: New Kit Survey GOTHA G Va in 1/28 scale!!!!!!! DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:23:50 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Voss; the thread from hell. Message-ID: <39A0A0C5.48F2C41E@bellsouth.net> My fellow Stringbag Modeling Brethren and Sisthren, Being perhaps the king of Dicta Ira modeling, and most definitely the king of "that looks right to me" modeling, I have no opinion either way on the color of Voss's cowl. I grew up thinking it was green because that's what color it was on the box top for the 1/28 Revell kit. BUt since I've been on this list I've learned of the yellow theory and I think a streaky Dr1 with a yellow cowl would look fab. Don't know about the white face on a yellow cowl, but hey! I may just have to give it a try some day. But that's just a qualifying statement and isn't real important. I'm just writing to say that I've seen this thread come up christ's nose how many times. But I must say, with all these new folks in the debate, I'mm seeing some new ideas and angles. At least I think I am. And that's pretty cool. However, it seems to be one of those eternal questions like "why are we here?", or "how do we get get out of here?". It may never be answered. That being the case, could we give it a rest for a while? I must've deleted two hundred posts on this thread already. I'm not even reading them anymore.(so don't slip in any announcments about new 1/48 OT kits coming out while posting under the Voss thread, ok?) Listen, all you guys in the green party, you'll never convert the devout follower of yellow. And likewise for the yellows converting the devout greens. As for the rest of us that don't care, we don't care. We're gonna paint our Voss cowls green and yellow and plaid and whatever other colors look good to us. (soap box floating away in flood from a much needed wrath of god type storm) E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:23:35 EDT From: K129000@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Bleriot XI, -2, -3 and BG. Message-ID: Some interest was expressed here about possibly building a Bleriot Militaire, or some military version. I have a book with me called Bleriot XI; story of a classic aircraft. It covers everything Bleriot built upto 1914. The book talks about various versions the military used. The Militaire was specifically designed to be collapsable (one is showed in tow). There are other versions: XI and XI-2 Artilirie: Single and tandem seat versions. Had a "High" rudder and wing cutouts at the rear root. (The apear to be circular). XI and XI-2 Militaire: Two seat version called "Genie" Appears to be almost identical. XI-BG: A parasol that served until 1915. XI-3: A monster. 3 seat aircraft (I assume in Tandem??). Landing gear had six main wheels. With three wheels grouped together, side-by-side on each strut. XI-3 had a cruciform skid in the back (or at least this one did). It was equipted with an uprated 140 Gnome rotary engine. No wing cutouts. Note that -2s had a different landing skid than XIs or so it seems. Roundels are shown on the underside of the wing to one aircraft. And Escadrille of these planes is shown. I don't know if it was taken during the war. Hope this is useful to someone. K-129 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:11:32 -0400 From: "S Karver" To: Subject: Participation Not Required, was, Re: Vos [sic] Message-ID: <200008210331.XAA19500@pease1.sr.unh.edu> There is nothing coercing folks who don't want to attend the flogging to do so, Go have your fun, we will have ours. Regards to all fun-loving modelers, floggers and nonflloggers alike, Stef ---------- > From: Dale Sebring > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Vos > Date: Sunday, August 20, 2000 8:49 PM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Beamish" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: Vos > > > > > people should stop being so anal over a color that's been argued to > death > > >for years by all the experts with no real answer and just get on with > > having >some fun modeling. > > > > As much as I HATE the Voss discussion again and again and again and again > > ... well you get the idea, I must agree with this post! > > > > >I think the horse has been flogged to death and the field is > > > still not plowed. > > > > No doubt about it! > > > > >Let's just have some fun modeling > > > > That's what it's suppose to be about .... > > Dale. > > > > > Thank you Dale, I agree, some folks get way too uptight. > Dale S. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:35:57 -0500 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: DVII Favorite? Message-ID: <000101c00b20$ebdfb6e0$8d00000a@jcgws> Ltn Meyer's "Mad Dog" as seen on p. 11 of "Von Richthofen's Flying Circus." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:24:45 -0400 From: "S Karver" To: Subject: Policing Discussions, Why? was, Re: Voss; the thread from hell. Message-ID: <200008210344.XAA19619@pease1.sr.unh.edu> The header just about says it. There are plenty of threads I have no interest in, whether it is Sopwith Swallows or Mesopotamian Bristols. I feel under no compunction to tell these folks their making my life miserable. If you are no longer interested in the Voss question, and think nothing new can be added to it, well good for you--it's just one thing less for you to fret over. For those "new" people on the List--is that an epithet of obrobium?--I say let them have their go. You can pass it all by. But now that you have said what you have, let's not catch you asking for any research informatiion on finish, markings, interior details, eh? Respectfully yours, StefK ---------- > From: Ernest Thomas > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Voss; the thread from hell. > Date: Sunday, August 20, 2000 11:27 PM > > My fellow Stringbag Modeling Brethren and Sisthren, > > Being perhaps the king of Dicta Ira modeling, and most definitely the > king of "that looks right to me" modeling, I have no opinion either way > on the color of Voss's cowl. I grew up thinking it was green because > that's what color it was on the box top for the 1/28 Revell kit. BUt > since I've been on this list I've learned of the yellow theory and I > think a streaky Dr1 with a yellow cowl would look fab. Don't know about > the white face on a yellow cowl, but hey! I may just have to give it a > try some day. > But that's just a qualifying statement and isn't real important. > I'm just writing to say that I've seen this thread come up christ's nose > how many times. But I must say, with all these new folks in the debate, > I'mm seeing some new ideas and angles. At least I think I am. > And that's pretty cool. > However, it seems to be one of those eternal questions like "why are we > here?", or "how do we get get out of here?". It may never be answered. > That being the case, could we give it a rest for a while? I must've > deleted two hundred posts on this thread already. I'm not even reading > them anymore.(so don't slip in any announcments about new 1/48 OT kits > coming out while posting under the Voss thread, ok?) > > Listen, all you guys in the green party, you'll never convert the devout > follower of yellow. And likewise for the yellows converting the devout > greens. As for the rest of us that don't care, we don't care. We're > gonna paint our Voss cowls green and yellow and plaid and whatever other > colors look good to us. > (soap box floating away in flood from a much needed wrath of god type > storm) > E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:04:31 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Participation Not Required, was, Re: Vos [sic] Message-ID: <200008210004_MC2-B05C-1AE@compuserve.com> >> floggers and nonflloggers alike, << The floggings will continue until moral improves. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 8/20/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:04:33 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Web site update Message-ID: <200008210004_MC2-B05C-1B0@compuserve.com> Everyone, After many hours of typing code, compressing photos and screaming, the web site has been update. You will find on the British page the Pegasus Be2e (# 100 for those keeping count) and the Merlin DH-5. On the German page you will find the ICM Fokker E.IV, the Merlin Junkers J.1 and Halberstadt D.II. The Halberstadt is not new but the photos have been improved. Still to download will be the Albatros D.IV, Pegasus D.Va and some better shots of the Lohner L seaplane by Wings 72. The day is gone, my brain is AWOL and I'm going to bed. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 8/20/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:02:54 -0700 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: Subject: Re: New Kit Survey Message-ID: <024101c00b24$afedcf60$5a8c3ace@pavilion> I recently ordered one of this company's 1/144th scale kits of the Halberstadt D.II .....for a dinky scale kit, it is really something special. Planning on finding some time to do some scanning of the parts. I'll have to try a couple of the others listed in VAMP's site. More later.... MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ----- Original Message ----- > > You want 1:32 WW1 kits? Try VAMP Models. A company > called Sram has released three new 1:32 resin kits. > Halberstadt CL.IV, Fokker D.VIII, and an Albatros > D.II. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:06:53 -0700 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: Subject: Re: Favorite D-VII Message-ID: <027801c00b25$3dd8fca0$5a8c3ace@pavilion> I'll have to ditto that. also I'm kind in love with his earlier aircraft all lozenged up with a black cowl and black and white longeron striping.... MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > Hi All, > My all-time favorite is Udet's "Lo" with the red fuselage > and candy striped upper wing. > > John > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:13:13 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Participation Not Required, was, Re: Vos [sic] Message-ID: <39A0AC59.664E41BC@tac.com.au> Dennis Ugulano wrote: > > >> floggers and nonflloggers alike, << > > The floggings will continue until moral improves. But sometimes a good flogging or spanking does wonders for the morale..... doesn't do anything for the morals though ;-) Mistress Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:20:19 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Kit Survey Message-ID: <78.93af603.26d20803@aol.com> In a message dated 8/20/00 7:54:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Jasta11@pdq.net writes: << THERE! Somebody had to say it. RK had to move his 1/32 G.IV to Chino to have room to move around the house! - JCG >> Had to clear things out for that 1/48 Zep! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:42:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: New Kit Survey Message-ID: <20000821044235.14690.qmail@web9003.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah. w3.inshop.cz/vamp or you can find a direct link on the "internet Modeler" contents page. If you haven't shopped before with Lubos Vinar, the owner, you're in for a real treat. Awesome selection, awesome prices! Todd --- Webmaster Jasta Boelcke wrote: > Cool! Does VAMP have a website? > > Gaston Graf > Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 > "Boelcke" > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > > Todd Hayes > > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 10:10 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Re: New Kit Survey > > > > > > Russ, > > > > You want 1:32 WW1 kits? Try VAMP Models. A > company > > called Sram has released three new 1:32 resin > kits. > > Halberstadt CL.IV, Fokker D.VIII, and an Albatros > > D.II. > > > > Todd > > --- Russell W Niles wrote: > > > Paul > > > Sorry I am so late in getting out a reply to > this, > > > but I have been out of > > > town for the past several days. > > > As a large scale builder I would like to throw > my > > > vote in for 1/32. > > > Furthermore, I would vote for the Albatross, or > > > Eindecker. There are two > > > Allied power aircraft currently available in > that > > > scale, the Nieuport 17 > > > and the Camel, and Hobbycraft announced the > release > > > of the Spad in 1/32 > > > for this year. However nothing from the other > side > > > in 1/32nd. > > > I do agree with most of the arguments about > 1/28th , > > > BUT there certainly > > > is more stuff to go along with 1/32nd for > diorama > > > possiblities in 1/32nd. > > > The other thing is, it must be affordable. All > of > > > our voting doesnt do > > > any good if the model cost $50.00 to $100.00. > Thats > > > just not affordable > > > to most of us. > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > Russ Niles IPMS 4450 > > > Too close for missiles....switching to guns. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE > > > software, visit: > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from > anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:44:58 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Kit Survey Message-ID: <39A0B3CA.16687705@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > Had to clear things out for that 1/48 Zep! Yer building a 1/48 model of Led Zeppelin? COOL! /%] E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:04:45 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Kit Survey Message-ID: <4e.a0dff83.26d2126d@aol.com> In a message dated 8/20/00 9:45:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > Had to clear things out for that 1/48 Zep! Yer building a 1/48 model of Led Zeppelin? COOL! /%] E. >> Funny you should mention that......I actually HAVE built them......three whole sets....1/8 scale though. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:31:00 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Policing Discussions - the thread of the undead Message-ID: "Policing" is a bit harsh. I'm with Ernest on this one.... I read the first two dozen or so posts, notwithstanding that this is the umpteenth time we have waded through these waters. OK.... after that I started just deleting anything with Voss in the subject line - fair enough. (if you ever want to say something nasty about me - put Voss in the subject line. I'll never know). But now, seems like a week later, the thread is still coughing and gagging along. If anyone wants to drive a stake through its heart, I wont complain.... Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:38:05 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Favorite D-VII Message-ID: <63.a136031.26d21a3d@aol.com> I really like the red-and-white Rabens..... DZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:43:48 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Policing Discussions, Why? was, Re: Voss; the thread from hell. Message-ID: <39A0C193.14745102@bellsouth.net> S Karver wrote: > > The header just about says it. I'm not policing anything. I'm simply expressing a desire(to see the Voss thread put to rest for a bit), which echoes opinions already expressed. If you must continue it, that's ok. I know where the delete key is. There are plenty of threads I have no > interest in, whether it is Sopwith Swallows or Mesopotamian Bristols. You and everybody else in this group. > I feel under no compunction to tell these folks their making my life > miserable. Don't recall telling anyone they were making my life miserable. > > If you are no longer interested in the Voss question, and think nothing new > can be added to it, well good for you--it's just one thing less for you to > fret over. Has any new, incontrovertible proof been produced in this discussion? >From what I saw, it's the same old argument. BUt I may have missed something. Like I said, I've stopped reading it 180 posts ago. For those "new" people on the List--is that an epithet of > obrobium? If by epithet, you mean 'disparaging or abusive word, or phrase', then no, it's not an epithet. If you mean 'a taxonomic name identifying a subordinate unit with in a genus' than yes it is. As for 'obrobium' I have know idea what you're talking about. There's no such word. If you mean opprobrium, then no, it's not that either. --I say let them have their go. Yes by all means, let them have a go. BUt when they're bleeding from banging their heads against a wall, courtesy demands suggesting a rest. And this thread went way beyond informing the uninformed. It actually stared getting ugly. > > But now that you have said what you have, let's not catch you asking for > any research informatiion on finish, markings, interior details, eh? And if I do? Ok, I promise not to ask for any information on stuff that has been delivered and discussed a thousand times before. > Respectfully yours, I think not. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:38:40 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Participation Not Required, was, Re: Vos [sic] Message-ID: <39A0CE70.78F87480@bellsouth.net> Mistress Lorna wrote: > But sometimes a good flogging or spanking does wonders for the > morale..... doesn't do anything for the morals though ;-) Au contrair! It keeps the morals..... flexible. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:05:24 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "WW1 List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Triplane Progress Message-ID: <56EBF0EF4A03D4118C6F00902776597F0DEFAA@s26pss4.pssc.wa.gov.au>