WWI Digest 2564 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Yellow? Poo!, was, Re: Voss Cowling by "S Karver" 2) Thanks by "Mike Franklin" 3) Re: Thanks by "Limon3" 4) Re: Voss Cowling, was Re: Yellow? Poo! by Marc Flake 5) Re: Testimonial For CSM (One Happy Customer!) by REwing@aol.com 6) 1/48 Argus Engine by "Samantha and Bob" 7) Re: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) by Dave Watts 8) Re: 1/48 Argus Engine by "Courtney Allen" 9) Re: Voss Cowling, was Re: Yellow? Poo! by Dave Watts 10) Re: Photos - where's the BE2e? by "Nigel Rayner" 11) RE: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) by "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" 12) RE: Thanks by "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" 13) RE: Testimonial For CSM (One Happy Customer!) by "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" 14) RE: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) by Dave Watts 15) RE: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) by "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" 16) Re: How to Pay Lubos at Spin?? by "Sandy Adam" 17) : Re: Dornier D.1 by "Sandy Adam" 18) Contact!! by "Sandy Adam" 19) Re: Contact!! by "Bob Pearson" 20) RE: Contact!! by "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" 21) Voss's Triplane: RUDDER PICTURES ARE NOW ONLINE AT THE JASTA BOELCKE WEBSITE by "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" 22) SV: Future and WWI vs WWII vs Jets by "Neil Crawford" 23) Unsubbing? by "Neil Crawford" 24) RE: Unsubbing? by Shane Weier 25) Re: Voss Cowling, was Re: Yellow? Poo! by smperry@mindspring.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:36:16 -0400 From: "S Karver" To: Subject: Re: Yellow? Poo!, was, Re: Voss Cowling Message-ID: <200008200156.VAA10966@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:16 PM > > In a message dated 8/19/2000 8:58:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > skarver@banet.net writes: > > << f you want the cowling to be yellow, you will have to explain the > appearance > of the prop laminations, especially the dark ones. We should reasonably > expect these to be a fairly rich mahogany brown. >> > Hi Mark, as one who works often with wood, I have learned to never think that > a certain wood only comes in a set rang of colors. I have a nice piece on > mahogany here in my shop that in 15 inches wide by 4 inches thick and 6 feet > long and one edge of the board is dark brown while the other is a light cream > color. Just shows that you cannot trust mother nature. FWIW. I don't care about the piece of wood in your shop. Exactly what color do you think those dark laminations on the Axial prop just might be--yellow, too? Inquiring minds want to know, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:00:01 -0700 From: "Mike Franklin" To: Subject: Thanks Message-ID: <001901c00a4a$5c9ca000$6aecfc9e@picker> Thank you to the person who posted about the Red Baron 3D update available on the Sierra Web Site. It takes a while to download but the results are well worth the effort. 11.3Megs took my computer 38 minutes. Sierra has made the upgrade available in 1.3Meg increments for those who have trouble downloading very large files. The Red Baron 3D is much more fun to fly now, and it looks a lot better. Anyone who needs more specific directions are welcome to contact me direct and I'll help you as much as I can. Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA USA "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:29:51 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Thanks Message-ID: <000c01c00a4e$8595fca0$59bf113f@f4w2s5> Mike, Before I get too late, I'd like to thank you for your kind work on the ALPS. The decals, via Dale B. are terrific. BTW, I was just up in your area last Monday on my way up to B.C. Gabe -----Original Message----- From: Mike Franklin To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, August 19, 2000 6:59 PM Subject: Thanks >Thank you to the person who posted about the Red Baron 3D update available >on the Sierra Web Site. It takes a while to download but the results are >well worth the effort. 11.3Megs took my computer 38 minutes. Sierra has >made the upgrade available in 1.3Meg increments for those who have trouble >downloading very large files. > >The Red Baron 3D is much more fun to fly now, and it looks a lot better. > >Anyone who needs more specific directions are welcome to contact me direct >and I'll help you as much as I can. > > >Mike Franklin >Bellingham, WA USA > >"No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit" > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:18:14 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Voss Cowling, was Re: Yellow? Poo! Message-ID: <399F4DF6.7D6B@airmail.net> Stef: No, the tail doesn't look yellow in that photo. I'm still not convinced about the cowl, though. It could be Chrome Yellow. As for what Voss would pick? Well, we don't know why he painted it on in the first place. Could be decoration, could be to intimidate. Who knows? Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:32:05 EDT From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Testimonial For CSM (One Happy Customer!) Message-ID: <75.891ef9f.26d0ab35@aol.com> << ...but Eric deserves a big pat on the back for his excellent service. Thank you for the outstanding service, you now have a customer for life! >> I totally agree with you!!! -Rick- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:26:27 -0400 From: "Samantha and Bob" To: Subject: 1/48 Argus Engine Message-ID: <000701c00a5e$d00891c0$99e01f26@vucqpqlj> Anybody have a spare 1/48 Argus engine they would like to sell or trade? My Eduard Hannover CL.IIIa seems to be missing the engine. Does Koster sell his Argus engine separately? Bob Norgren Sierra Scale Models 2010 Douglass Blvd #1 Louisville KY 40205 phone: (502) 451-3745 fax; (419) 791-6390 email: starfusion@earthlink.net visit our website at http://sierrascale.hypermart.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:25:43 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) Message-ID: Hi all,

I would like to post the photo of the two rudders held by the Imperial War Museum.=A0 The one of interest is the purported Voss yellow rudder.=A0 I tried to send the photo to the posting group, but it was rejected because of file size, anyone have any suggestions for a novice computer operator to be able to get the photo posted?

Thanks,
Dave Watts

P.S. Maybe I could send it to someone else, and they could post it.

At 03:27 PM 8/19/00 -0400, you wrote:
Looking at the various photos I have of Voss' triplane, it looks to me
like the cowl and wheel covers are the same color.=A0 Most of the factory
finish Dr.1s seem to have the wheel cover in Fokker's two-tone, light
center, dark outer scheme.=A0 If Voss' wheel covers were painted=20 after
arriving at the front, it seems less likely to me that they would=20 be
painted overall olive.

Ken
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:30:36 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: 1/48 Argus Engine Message-ID: <005701c00a5f$63b74560$aa66480c@oemcomputer> I you contact Koster they will generally sell any of their parts separately. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samantha and Bob" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:32 PM Subject: 1/48 Argus Engine > Anybody have a spare 1/48 Argus engine they would like to sell or trade? My > Eduard Hannover CL.IIIa seems to be missing the engine. Does Koster sell his > Argus engine separately? > > Bob Norgren > Sierra Scale Models > 2010 Douglass Blvd #1 > Louisville KY 40205 > > phone: (502) 451-3745 > > fax; (419) 791-6390 > > email: starfusion@earthlink.net > > visit our website at http://sierrascale.hypermart.net/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 23:35:54 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Voss Cowling, was Re: Yellow? Poo! Message-ID: <200008200440.e7K4erw04627@ind.cioe.com> The rudder, (as theorized by Alex Imrie), was painted yellow very shortly before the "last flight", and no photograph was taken while it was in this guise. (Just speaking for Alex, and throwing fuel on the fire). Best, Dave At 11:20 PM 8/19/00 -0400, you wrote: >Stef: > >No, the tail doesn't look yellow in that photo. I'm still not convinced >about the cowl, though. It could be Chrome Yellow. As for what Voss >would pick? Well, we don't know why he painted it on in the first >place. Could be decoration, could be to intimidate. Who knows? > >Marc > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:19:42 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Re: Photos - where's the BE2e? Message-ID: <000601c00a7f$6510d460$605c883e@w1o0t3> Dennis wrote: >I will be writing HTML code tonight and I hope to have the three >Merlin kits on line tomorrow. Look forward to these Dennis. But what I reallywant to see are photos of number 100, your Pegasus BE2e (I think that was it...). I'm just starting one of these (well, when the cookup Albatros is finished....), and I'd love to see some photos - I couldn't find any on your site and don't see any in the gallery. BTW, any hints or tips you'd suggest for this kit? A quick BE2e question - was there an instrument panel in the observer's cockpit? Similar layout to the pilot's panel? Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:36:57 +0200 From: "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" To: Subject: RE: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) Message-ID: Dave, following the discussion I have some pics of Voss' FI 103/17 I want to post at my website. You can email me your picture and I will post it at the Jasta Boelcke website for you. I will have to setup a page about Voss anyway. You may send me the picture to webmaster@jastaboelcke.de with kind regards Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Dave Watts > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 6:35 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) > > > > Hi all,
>
> I would like to post the photo of the two rudders held by the Imperial > War Museum.=A0 The one of interest is the purported Voss yellow > rudder.=A0 I > tried to send the photo to the posting group, but it was rejected because > of file size, anyone have any suggestions for a novice computer operator > to be able to get the photo posted?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Watts
>
> P.S. Maybe I could send it to someone else, and they could post it.
>
> At 03:27 PM 8/19/00 -0400, you wrote:
>
Looking at the various photos I have of Voss' > triplane, it looks to me
> like the cowl and wheel covers are the same color.=A0 Most of the > factory
> finish Dr.1s seem to have the wheel cover in Fokker's two-tone, > light
> center, dark outer scheme.=A0 If Voss' wheel covers were painted=20 > after
> arriving at the front, it seems less likely to me that they would=20 > be
> painted overall olive.
>
> Ken

> >
> > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:39:43 +0200 From: "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" To: Subject: RE: Thanks Message-ID: Mike, if you want to play RB3D online I would be happy to meet with you over the mud. You will find me under my online Jastas callsign and pilots name J2B_v_Burberg_CO. Had 4 kills last night flying a D.VII ;o). Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Mike Franklin > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 4:02 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Thanks > > > Thank you to the person who posted about the Red Baron 3D update available > on the Sierra Web Site. It takes a while to download but the results are > well worth the effort. 11.3Megs took my computer 38 minutes. Sierra has > made the upgrade available in 1.3Meg increments for those who have trouble > downloading very large files. > > The Red Baron 3D is much more fun to fly now, and it looks a lot better. > > Anyone who needs more specific directions are welcome to contact me direct > and I'll help you as much as I can. > > > Mike Franklin > Bellingham, WA USA > > "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit" > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:56:23 +0200 From: "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" To: Subject: RE: Testimonial For CSM (One Happy Customer!) Message-ID: Thanks a lot - I finally found the place where to get detail kits for the 1/28th scale models from Revell - Hurray! Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > MAnde72343@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 12:16 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Testimonial For CSM (One Happy Customer!) > > > Eric is also a member of the list, but his web site is: > www.amug.org/~copperst/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 03:53:59 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) Message-ID: <200008200858.e7K8wvw17968@ind.cioe.com> Thanks Gaston, I have sent it to you, notify the list when you have it up so they can have a gander. Best, Dave At 04:40 AM 8/20/00 -0400, you wrote: >Dave, > >following the discussion I have some pics of Voss' FI 103/17 I want to post >at my website. You can email me your picture and I will post it at the Jasta >Boelcke website for you. I will have to setup a page about Voss anyway. You >may send me the picture to webmaster@jastaboelcke.de > >with kind regards > >Gaston Graf >Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" >http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of >> Dave Watts >> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 6:35 AM >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Subject: Re: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) >> >> >> >> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to post the photo of the two rudders held by the Imperial >> War Museum.=A0 The one of interest is the purported Voss yellow >> rudder.=A0 I >> tried to send the photo to the posting group, but it was rejected because >> of file size, anyone have any suggestions for a novice computer operator >> to be able to get the photo posted?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave Watts
>>
>> P.S. Maybe I could send it to someone else, and they could post it.
>>
>> At 03:27 PM 8/19/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>
Looking at the various photos I have of Voss' >> triplane, it looks to me
>> like the cowl and wheel covers are the same color.=A0 Most of the >> factory
>> finish Dr.1s seem to have the wheel cover in Fokker's two-tone, >> light
>> center, dark outer scheme.=A0 If Voss' wheel covers were painted=20 >> after
>> arriving at the front, it seems less likely to me that they would=20 >> be
>> painted overall olive.
>>
>> Ken

>> >>
>> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:07:45 +0200 From: "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" To: Subject: RE: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) Message-ID: Thank you, Dave! I got the pics and will setup a html page asap. Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Dave Watts > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 11:02 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) > > > Thanks Gaston, > > I have sent it to you, notify the list when you have it up so they can > have a gander. > > Best, > Dave > > At 04:40 AM 8/20/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Dave, > > > >following the discussion I have some pics of Voss' FI 103/17 I > want to post > >at my website. You can email me your picture and I will post it > at the Jasta > >Boelcke website for you. I will have to setup a page about Voss > anyway. You > >may send me the picture to webmaster@jastaboelcke.de > > > >with kind regards > > > >Gaston Graf > >Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" > >http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > >> Dave Watts > >> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 6:35 AM > >> To: Multiple recipients of list > >> Subject: Re: Voss' Cowl (and Wheel Covers) > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I would like to post the photo of the two rudders held by the Imperial > >> War Museum.=A0 The one of interest is the purported Voss yellow > >> rudder.=A0 I > >> tried to send the photo to the posting group, but it was > rejected because > >> of file size, anyone have any suggestions for a novice > computer operator > >> to be able to get the photo posted?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Dave Watts
> >>
> >> P.S. Maybe I could send it to someone else, and they could post it.
> >>
> >> At 03:27 PM 8/19/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >>
Looking at the various photos I > have of Voss' > >> triplane, it looks to me
> >> like the cowl and wheel covers are the same color.=A0 Most of the > >> factory
> >> finish Dr.1s seem to have the wheel cover in Fokker's two-tone, > >> light
> >> center, dark outer scheme.=A0 If Voss' wheel covers were painted=20 > >> after
> >> arriving at the front, it seems less likely to me that they would=20 > >> be
> >> painted overall olive.
> >>
> >> Ken

> >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:41:35 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Re: How to Pay Lubos at Spin?? Message-ID: <001e01c00a8b$78c237e0$08e8b094@sandyada> > I am a blond.... I sincerely hope you mean blonde, Candice. (otherwise I apologise, Sir!) Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:39:12 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: : Re: Dornier D.1 Message-ID: <001d01c00a8b$77634420$08e8b094@sandyada> > Im just finishing up the CSM Dornier D1. Acording to Eric those streaks are > the duraluminum showing through from a coat of light grey paint....where > fuel drops disolved the paint and show the metal now. I haven't got the sources in front of me at the moment but I remember looking at the available pics when I first got the CSM Dornier and noticing that other Dornier duraliminum aircraft have similar streaks in exactly the same place. I'd have to check again but it suggested that the streaks were not caused by random but by some process that would be the same on other aircraft - ie position of feet, trestles or similar. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:52:34 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Contact!! Message-ID: <002201c00a8c$707ccc20$08e8b094@sandyada> I had the great good fortune to meet a fellow listee this weekend when Charlie and Linda Duckworth and their son Colin visited us on Friday night. They were in Scotland for a wedding. After three years corresponding with you lot, it was great to finally meet a transatlantic e-pal in person. You'll never guess what we talked about! Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 02:58:15 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Contact!! Message-ID: <200008201009.DAA07892@mail.rapidnet.net> #@$%^&*() red ? ---------- >From: "Sandy Adam" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Contact!! >Date: Sun, Aug 20, 2000, 2:59 am > > I had the great good fortune to meet a fellow listee this weekend when > Charlie and Linda Duckworth and their son Colin visited us on Friday night. > They were in Scotland for a wedding. > > After three years corresponding with you lot, it was great to finally meet a > transatlantic e-pal in person. You'll never guess what we talked about! > > Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:07:32 +0200 From: "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" To: Subject: RE: Contact!! Message-ID: Sandy, I made that experience in '96 as I visited my dear e-pal Barbara+family in the USA. It was wonderful and we all had a great time. But the most wonderful experience of mine to meet my penpal from GDR already in 1984/85 ended up in a marriage :o). Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Sandy Adam > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 11:59 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Contact!! > > > I had the great good fortune to meet a fellow listee this weekend when > Charlie and Linda Duckworth and their son Colin visited us on > Friday night. > They were in Scotland for a wedding. > > After three years corresponding with you lot, it was great to > finally meet a > transatlantic e-pal in person. You'll never guess what we talked about! > > Sandy > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:12:38 +0200 From: "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" To: Subject: Voss's Triplane: RUDDER PICTURES ARE NOW ONLINE AT THE JASTA BOELCKE WEBSITE Message-ID: Dear list members, following the discussion about the color of Voss' Triplanes rudder and cowling I offered Dave Watts to send me his photographs to post them at my website so he can share them with all of us. The pictures are now online. Please click on the red DISCUSSION button in the left frame to load the page. More b/w pictures will be added soon. thank you for visiting Jasta Boelcke Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:00:20 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: Future and WWI vs WWII vs Jets Message-ID: <200008201033.MAA26274@mb07.swip.net> I've put foil on a OT cowling, and more difficult the engine pods of a DC9, the result is quite good if you don't look to close. I never use Bare Metal foil, it has a weird streaky finish, where they brush painted the glue on. I filled my Badger with thinned Microscale foil adhesive and sprayed it on to ordinary commercial foil, actually the thickest I could find because that stands up to sanding best. I found out from an excellent article on a website I have the adress to at work, that its a better idea to brush on very wetly, I'll do that the next time, the important thing is to avoid brush marks, they show through. I apply the foil as well as I can, then the fun bit starts, it will look awful, full of wrinkles and so on, but some of it should be OK. Start sanding the wrinkles off using 600 wet&dry, amazingly many will just disappear, then start patching, where the foil has disappeared you can lay on a new bit, then sand it in, the edges will blend and you get quite a neat patch, finally polish with even finer wet&dry and car-polish. If there are any cracks left you will just have to touch up with silver paint. Its worth it, beats all ordinary silver finishes, even if its not perfect /Neil ---------- > Från: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: Re: Future and WWI vs WWII vs Jets > Datum: den 18 augusti 2000 00:10 > > > > Howdy! > > One of the limitations of Bare Metal Foil is getting it around complex > compound curves. I'm sure someone could get a piece of BMF to wrap around a > cowling as complex as the Fokker, but not me. It would require several > pieces carefully spliced. Paint might be the best answer here. BMF would be > fine for the turned bulkhead behind the engine though. > > Another drawback to BMF I thought of is shelf life. The adhesive does seem > to lose some of its tack if it gets old. I've not had any lift off an old > model. I've just found that BMF won't stick as well one might like to a new > model if the BMF has been sitting around for awhile. It's kinda spendy too. > I figure it might cost $20+ to foil an ot 48th B-58. But she'll look REAL > good. I wish I could find out where Hershey's gets their foil for Hershey's > Kisses. That material would be perfect. The other source is to use the > cheapest brand of kitchen foil you can find. The cheapest will generally be > the thinnest. > > Give BMF a shot. It takes a little practice, but the results are worth it. > > Later! > > Brent > > >> FWIW my favorite is Bare Metal Foil. I don't think it takes too much > more > >> time to foil a model than it does to SnJ it. I include all the prep time > >> for the SnJ into this guesstimation. Plus you can get a true grain in > the > >> foil and its tougher than any paint. Leading and trailing edges can be > >> difficult because of the high stress of handling. The dremel tool swirl > >> trick works best on foil too. I have been converted! I still use SnJ and > >> products like it, but foiling is the way for me. It looks like metal, > >> because it IS metal. > > >Thanks Brent, I wondered how to duplicate the Fokker machined metal > >look-I'll try it on my E-III. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:28:20 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: Unsubbing? Message-ID: <200008201033.MAA26308@mb07.swip.net> Hi, I'll be unsubbing anyday soon, I just can't keep up with the amount of mail this generates, I'll read the digests on the homepage and answer occasionally. What I would like to know is can I send a mail direct to the list without being subscribed? Or must I subscribe, send a mail, then unsubscribe? /Neil NB: Revell Nieuport 28 1/72, struggling with the undercarriage, I'm doing it properly by sawing out Vees and sanding to shape , this should be stronger than glueing contrail strut material, but its an awful lot of work. NR: Actually just finished "The naked God" by Peter F Hamilton, the last in the "Reality dysfuntion" series, I think this is the best Science-fiction for a long time. Otherwise "Winged Victory" rules! NP: XTC "Wasp-star vol2", Bruce Cockburn "Breakfast in New-Orleans..." both excellent, otherwise I like DireStraits, blues, early punk and most any Rock and Roll. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:26:23 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Cc: "'neil.crawford@swipnet.se'" Subject: RE: Unsubbing? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D505@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Neil > Hi, I'll be unsubbing anyday soon, I just can't keep up with > the amount of mail this generates, I'll read the digests on > the homepage and answer occasionally. What I would like > to know is can I send a mail direct to the list without being > subscribed? Or must I subscribe, send a mail, then > unsubscribe? No problem, you CAN send an email to the list without being a subscriber. Don't be a stranger now..... Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 07:39:53 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Voss Cowling, was Re: Yellow? Poo! Message-ID: <001401c00a9b$5c8802c0$f70156d1@default> One point I don't recall having heard discussed much in the yellow vs olive debate is the demarkation between the cowl & the rest of the fuselage. The front of the fuselage fabric is where the Fokker streaky olive camo begins. It begins with a fully loaded brush and so the forward part of the fabric will be a full dark olive. Unless the olive and the yellow render exactly the same gray on ortho film, there will be a tonal difference between the cowl and the fabric directy behind it if they were different colors. They may render close enough that the difference is obliterated by a poor exposure of a shiny airplane taken outside in bright sun. I have not been fortunate enough to see a photo where there was a clear tonal difference between the cowl and adjacent fabric. Anyone know of one? A clear difference would prove the cowl and fabric were different colors. No difference would strongly but inconclusively suggest the same color. sp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2564 **********************