WWI Digest 2559 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: New Kit Survey by "D Charles" 2) Re: historical fiction by "D Charles" 3) Re: Kids and Models by Mark Miller 4) new OT site by "dfernet0" 5) Armor in the One True Scale by GRBroman@aol.com 6) RE: More OT at Modeling Madness by "dfernet0" 7) Re: Sorry, the Voss cowling again by "S Karver" 8) RE: rib tape decals by "dfernet0" 9) Re: Rib tapes & Ceramacoat by "Matt Bittner" 10) Re: Armor in the One True Scale by "Matt Bittner" 11) That Other Roland D.II by "S Karver" 12) Re: Profile Publications by Allan Wright 13) RE: More OT at Modeling Madness by Mark Miller 14) Re: Was Re: (ot) Canadian Terrorist strikes! Now Hit Kit by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 15) RE: More OT at Modeling Madness by "dfernet0" 16) Re: WWI digest 2558 by "Nigel Rayner" 17) Re: WWI digest 2553 by Dennis Ugulano 18) Re: More books by "Andrew Ronayne" 19) RE: Future and WWI vs WWII vs Jets by Shane Weier 20) Re: WWI digest 2558 by "Dale Sebring" 21) Re: Modeling From Scratch by "Ken Acosta" 22) RE: Kids and Models by "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" 23) RE: Sorry, the Voss cowling again by "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" 24) Re: More books by "Andrew Ronayne" 25) Re: More OT at Modeling Madness by Albatrosdv@aol.com 26) Re: More OT at Modeling Madness by "Candice Uhlir" 27) Tamiya Field Kitchen by "Edward Swaim" 28) RE: Tamiya Field Kitchen by "dfernet0" 29) RE: Morane AI cockpits by "John Glaser" 30) Re: Morane AI cockpits by "Len Smith" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:17:50 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: New Kit Survey Message-ID: <051201c008ff$47b99040$582bd7d2@charls> Sopwith Dolphin in 1/28 David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:29:27 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: historical fiction Message-ID: <051301c008ff$48f878e0$582bd7d2@charls> You can't go past "Winged Victory" by V.M. Yeates if you want to know about Camel flying OT. "Sopwith Scout 7309" by Sir Gordon Taylor is the most easily read non-fiction I've come across. Get the Kookaburra Technical Publications copy of "High Adventure" (See Cam's recent post for the address) because, with its colour profiles, it's of more use to the modeller than early editions. David ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 2000 04:16:13 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Kids and Models Message-ID: <20000818111613.28336.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 17 August 2000, MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > > I loved that game too, but when I updated my computer, it wouldn't work; > bought RBII, It's too realistic, as an old fart, I don't have the reflexes to > play it. Curious, it was the board game "Red Baron," played with 1/72 > models, that got me started modeling W.W.I, a bad case of I can do better > than that, followed by serious addiction. > Merrill I am also a big fan of RB1 -one of the nicest features is how you can right-click (and hold down) the mouse and get an interactive view - which always seemed to me to be much more intuitive than hitting buttons on the keyboard. I haven't played it in a while because I can't find the maps - and as soon as you become a leader everybody follows you. Haven't seen RB2 yet - does it have the same viewing abilities? I also played the Avalon Hill game Red Baron a lot when I was younger. It can be fun as a game - but as a simulation of air combat it's stinks. That plotted movement just can't simulate something as fluid as air to air combat. The games Dauntless and Airforce also use plotted movement, and IMHO suffer because of it. The best game/simulation I've ever played is Iron Men and Wooden Ships (the board game). It also uses plotted movement but it works because you can't turn a ship in seconds and there actualy was a significant lag time between command and execution. Plays great and feels right. Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:19:54 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: new OT site Message-ID: <00de01c00906$3c761800$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Guys Check this: http://www.horsesdontfly.com/ many pictures, mostly unidentified.... D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:55:41 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: Subject: Armor in the One True Scale Message-ID: <200008181159.HAA25073@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Hey all, just got a care package froma friend in the UK. He sent the new Emhar WW I figure and artillery sets in 1/72. I'll be doing a review of these for the IPMS (UK) magazine. Also announced was a 1/72 A7V. Since my first vacuform was a Modakit or Raretanks A7V many years ago, and that's still the best A7V availabel, this is indeed welcome news. Glen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:04:10 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: More OT at Modeling Madness Message-ID: <023101c0090c$6b2f66a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Great work, Tom! I like the paint scheme and your reviews are always a pleasure to read. But the wheels seems to be a bit splayed out... ;-) D. running fast for cover! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 4:57 PM Subject: More OT at Modeling Madness > My bit of a history lesson and proof you can make a Camel 2F.1 from the spart > parts box can be seen at: > > http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/ww1/cleavercamel.htm > > Cheers, > > TC > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:49:37 -0400 From: "S Karver" To: Subject: Re: Sorry, the Voss cowling again Message-ID: <200008181209.IAA25170@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > From: David Fleming > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Sorry, the Voss cowling again > Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 4:46 AM > > Tom Solinski wrote: > > > > Lastly if you wanted a face to stand out on a yellow cowl you wouldn't = > > paint it white. > > > > That's assuming the face IS white, and not a dark colour which registers on > ortho film as lighter, such as blue........... The spetral sensitivity of ortho film is not the deus ex machina (or should I say, deus ex camera) that answers every nagging OT color problem. A dark blue would not be rendered as white on ortho film. The 'un-natural' rendering of hues is most pronounced in the dark yellow through red range. I have posted a gray-scale rendering chart from Ansel Adams at photopoint. You will perehaps find it illuminating. Stef ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:08:01 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: rib tape decals Message-ID: <02b401c0090c$f4c0afa0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt, Dave Applied both reccomendations and they worked OK! Thanks a lot! D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:24:22 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Rib tapes & Ceramacoat Message-ID: <200008181224.FAA23149@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:32:23 -0400 (EDT), Bob Pearson wrote: > Yup .. I've been using them in my models for the last year. ... thinning > with Future or water works. How do they hold up to tape? Are they as robust as the new Polly Scale, or like the old formula Polly S? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:33:44 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Armor in the One True Scale Message-ID: <200008181233.FAA07935@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:00:37 -0400 (EDT), GRBroman@aol.com wrote: > Hey all, just got a care package froma friend in the UK. He sent the new Emhar WW I figure and artillery sets in 1/72. I'll be doing a review of these for the IPMS (UK) magazine. Also announced was a 1/72 A7V. Since my first vacuform was a Modakit or Raretanks A7V many years ago, and that's still the best A7V availabel, this is indeed welcome news. Definitely excellent news!! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:20:42 -0400 From: "S Karver" To: Subject: That Other Roland D.II Message-ID: <200008181240.IAA25460@pease1.sr.unh.edu> In digest mode, I read: ---------- > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:50:53 EDTFrom: Otisgood@aol.com > To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.eduSubject: Re: Albatros Cookup and > Disenfranchisement > Message-ID: <43.8f88304.26c9fbfd@aol.com> > In a message dated 8/14/00 8:44:02 PM Central Daylight Time, > ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: > > I'll echo Otis' sentiment. If I want a Roland D-II in my collection, > > what choice do I have? Even if it the molds were tooled in hell, it's > > still the only 1/48 Roland D-II around, afaik. There is a Sierra Scale Models Roland available at less than the price of entry for the HiTech. And doubtless not tooled in Hell. Indeed, IIRC a List-landers effort is featured at Norgren's site. Regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:43:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Profile Publications Message-ID: <200008181243.IAA25509@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Of course you can always use the index on the website: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/pubs/profiles.html To find a WWI aircraft use your browser's "find in page" feature. -Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "I Played the Fool" - Southside Johnny University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 2000 05:41:01 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: More OT at Modeling Madness Message-ID: <20000818124101.17273.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Fri, 18 August 2000, "dfernet0" wrote: > > Great work, Tom! > I like the paint scheme and your reviews are always a pleasure to read. > But the wheels seems to be a bit splayed out... ;-) > D. > running fast for cover! > OK I thought the same thing, but was too chicken to say so and even if they were splayed to that extent, and from what I've seen and heard from TC I suspect they were, I would probably have straigtened them a bit, but I think I'm less a slave to historical accuracy than most. hard landing perhaps? Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:23:53 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Was Re: (ot) Canadian Terrorist strikes! Now Hit Kit Message-ID: >The "lavender Mob" would have you lighten it, but in any case, as >brushed/airbrushed it looks kind of 'bright' (very '70's). My choice is to >mix it with olive drab, to darken it and take the electric shade down some, I >have mixed it nearly 50-50, to get a dark shade, but that's a matter of >personal taste. >Merrill Thank you sir, you're a gentleman and a scholar etc. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:49:24 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: More OT at Modeling Madness Message-ID: <03b601c00912$bcc71980$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mark asks > hard landing perhaps? Nope. Fat pilot. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:58:14 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Re: WWI digest 2558 Message-ID: <000601c00914$0c664a00$aa41883e@w1o0t3> Ernest (the Heretic) wrote: > My MOTHER! was an SE5a!!! And you father was.....? A Big Ack? Boy, what a pretty baby you must have been :-) Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:12:17 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: WWI digest 2553 Message-ID: <200008180912_MC2-B031-28AE@compuserve.com> David, >> Is this true ? I can remember a letter in the press at the time from Chris (It was earlier, about 1981/2) saying he had nothing at all to do with Veeday. << That's the way I heard the story from people I trust. There were so many rumors flying around at that time, it's probably best just to listen and say ok, if that's what you say. I do know I got a long letter from the gentleman at Merlin telling his side of the story. I think I lost the letter. About that time he started up Merlin, if memory serves me. Where he went, I have no idea. And how time flies. It was in the early 80's that VEEDAY released 6 kits, I think. At least 4. I got 3 of them and built 2. Rough but the beginning of the present WW1 phase of modelling. You have to remember that at this time you could count on your fingers and toes the number of WW1 kits available and mainly in 1/72. For 1/48th builders, there was almost nothing. We are living in FAT CITY right now as far as WW1 kits in both scales. Enjoy. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 8/2/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:51:08 +1000 From: "Andrew Ronayne" To: Subject: Re: More books Message-ID: <028401c0091b$5d9cd4a0$cf4e8ec6@t9hf2> Thank you very much for this Tom. I hate missing out on good info. Wow, a 13' R/C blimp? I never knew such beasties existed - now I'm very curious! Cheers Drew Drew Ronayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Solinski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, 18 August 2000 5:54 Subject: Re: More books > Drew, the answer is not much. > > As partially quoted below I found two books on sale a Barnes and Nobel here > Stateside. One devoted to the Zeppelin Co but has a nice table of factory > serial numbers Vs German Navy and Army designations. And the book below, > printed in England for 9.99 pounds which has lots of pictures but very > little information. > > Tom Solinski > son of Goodyear blimp designer Frank Solinski > designer and builder of a 13' indoor R/C blimp > helium head till the day I die. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:54:02 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Future and WWI vs WWII vs Jets Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D501@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> TC says: > BTW - natural metal > left under sunlight without protection has a tendency to go > dead flat fast. > Never ever did I see a*shiny* NMF on a 1:1, except for a > couple of warbirds > that had nice thick coatings of clear polyurethane over the > polished surface. This is very true of course. Contrary to popular opinion, Aluminium oxidises *very* quickly. However, the oxide is tough and inert and unlike rust on steel it expands and contracts with heating exactly as much as the base metal - so it never "flakes off" to allow the bare metal to oxidise again and eventually corrode away. Getting OT, all the pics of the Dornier D.I show this non shiny aluminium finish quite well! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. 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Thank you, Dale S. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:18:25 -0500 From: "Ken Acosta" To: , Subject: Re: Modeling From Scratch Message-ID: K- Not sure of any web sites, but there are a couple of books that I think would be worth your while. The first one is "Scratchbuilt!" co-authored by John Alcorn, Peter Cooke, and the late George Lee. The soft cover book is a nice combination of modeling history, how-to text and mouth-watering eye candy photos, both in-progress shots and completed projects. The sequel to "SB!" is "The Master Scratch Builders," with Alcorn as the compiling editor. He essentially went around and asked some of the best airplane scratch-building modelers to submit a "How I Built My (blank)" article for one of their models each. Contributing modelers include Alcorn (DH-9), Peter Cooke (Avro Lancaster), Arlo Schroeder (Grumman Avenger), Ron Lowry (Gloster Gamecock), Alan Clark (Short Singapore), and Bill Bosworth (Mitsubishi Betty). It also has chapters on research, documentation, finishing techniques, and tools/workshops. As with the first book, lots of pictures to drool over and plenty of techniques to try. There is some duplication between the two books, but only where the editor thought it was necessary to allow the second book to stand on its own. If you're the least bit interested in scratchbuilding, you need these books. HTH- Ken >>> K129000@aol.com 08/18/00 02:39AM >>> Are there any good sites that tell you how to go from plastic card to a nice finished model? Just wondering how it could be done. K-129 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:48:55 +0200 From: "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" To: Subject: RE: Kids and Models Message-ID: Mark, RBII offers the most wonderful view system I ever saw on a sim! You can use the coolie hat of the joystick to look 360� around. Holding a button on the stick and moving the stick allows you to look around in any direction and from any angle. You can switch to outside view and see your opponents plane or your team mates plane. Also RBII permits a follow mode where you head moves like a real persons head, always tracking the opponent. It's like keeping your head on a swivel :o). Playing RBII online is great fun because you can fly in formation with your buddies and fight together. You can play RBII online at WON or with the Kali multiplayer software. I play RBII online since its release in December of 1997. In March of 1998 I founded the online squadron Jasta 2 "Boelcke". RBII is available for a damn low price now and it is really worth the buy. Compared to Empires Flying Corps it is the best WWI flightsim, really. FC was crap, IMHO. Oh and RBII also offers force feedback support, which is something you never want to miss again after you tried it once. 3Dfx graphics gives it a very nice look. You can now apply your own painting schemes on your aircraft. The damage profiles are quite realistic. You see your opponents crate coughing smoke. When aircrafts break up in the air the parts still fly around etc. When your crate suffers from engine problems the wood in the cockpit may soon soak in oil and chances increase that your crate will catch fire. When playing the single player campaigns you may even see little soldiers storming the enemies trenches and tanks advancing. All that includes sound indeed. The soldiers are screaming and the tanks a ratteling... The RBII world is full of details. It's really a pity that Dynamix never did an addon CD for it and I doubt if there will ever be an RBIII. Another nice detail is the ambulance car which comes to your plane after you landed from a mission where you got wounded... C u over the mud? Please click on the SIMULATION link at my website to learn more about our online squadron. Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Mark Miller > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 1:21 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Kids and Models > > > On Thu, 17 August 2000, MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > > > > > I loved that game too, but when I updated my computer, it > wouldn't work; > > bought RBII, It's too realistic, as an old fart, I don't have > the reflexes to > > play it. Curious, it was the board game "Red Baron," played with 1/72 > > models, that got me started modeling W.W.I, a bad case of I can > do better > > than that, followed by serious addiction. > > Merrill > > I am also a big fan of RB1 -one of the nicest features is how you > can right-click (and hold down) the mouse and get an interactive > view - which always seemed to me to be much more intuitive than > hitting buttons on the keyboard. I haven't played it in a while > because I can't find the maps - and as soon as you become a > leader everybody follows you. > > Haven't seen RB2 yet - does it have the same viewing abilities? > > I also played the Avalon Hill game Red Baron a lot when I was > younger. It can be fun as a game - but as a simulation of air > combat it's stinks. That plotted movement just can't simulate > something as fluid as air to air combat. The games Dauntless and > Airforce also use plotted movement, and IMHO suffer because of it. > > The best game/simulation I've ever played is Iron Men and Wooden > Ships (the board game). It also uses plotted movement but it > works because you can't turn a ship in seconds and there actualy > was a significant lag time between command and execution. Plays > great and feels right. > > Mark > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! > http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:49:02 +0200 From: "Webmaster Jasta Boelcke" To: Subject: RE: Sorry, the Voss cowling again Message-ID: After the pictures and descriptions that I have of Voss' Dr.1 F.I.103/17 its rudder was painted standart WHITE, not yellow. The painting schemes of both Dr.1 pre-serial types as indentical, olive brown over turquoise doped canvas with turquoise underfaces, except but for the dragon face added to Voss' aircraft. Both aircraft did not last long: F.I. 102/17 was delivered on August 21, 1917 and destroyed on September 15, 1917 as Kurt Wolff was shot down with it. Details about Wolffs last flight can be read at my website. F.I. 103/17 was delivered on August 21, 1917 and destroyed on September 23, 1917 as Voss flew it. Gaston Graf Webmaster of the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of > Tom Solinski > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 4:50 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Sorry, the Voss cowling again > > > . Now, how does one come up with yellow if a plane is in its > > stock factory colors, which for this one was the olive dope and > turquoise > > on the top and turquoise on the bottom? I know how inaccurate most > > reports were concerning colors of enemy aircraft, but it certainly is > > something worth noting (in case this report hasn't been mentioned among > > this august body). > > Another point. Again in Aces High, Voss' final flight and fight was at > sunset. The sun glinting off of the doped finish could have left a strong > impression of yellow. And it appears that this was Voss' practice to hunt > alone at twilight to catch the silhouettes of the allied aircraft as they > flew westward to home. > > Tom S > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:29:39 +1000 From: "Andrew Ronayne" To: Subject: Re: More books Message-ID: <052001c00931$827c3700$cf4e8ec6@t9hf2> Thanks Shane, I picked up a book called "Hindenburg" by Mike Flynn in the bargain bins at Anguish & Rubbish for AUD$10.00, didn't realise there was another. I did see a Zeppelin book for around $20.00 but I'd just blown my budget on software books and couldn't spring for anything else. Now I'm going to have to go looking for the other illusive Hindenburg book. Thanks for the information - much appreciated. Cheers Drew Drew Ronayne > > Hi Drew, > > Well, I've only caught the last post myself :-( > > But here's a book I recommend: > > "Hindenburg: An Illustrated History" By Rick Archbold with paintings by > Ken Marshall. People may recognise these guys from the Robert Ballard > books. > > It covers the Hindenburg, but has some OT content. Basically it covers > the history of the great airships, with the British, USN, & german ones > having the more prominance. > > Angus & Robertson (Anguish & Rubbish to the aussie contingent ;-) ) > still have hard back copies floating around the bargain bins. > > Regards, > > Shane > APMA VP > http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm > Having fun making models > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:51:15 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: More OT at Modeling Madness Message-ID: In a message dated 8/18/00 7:06:59 AM EST, dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: << But the wheels seems to be a bit splayed out... ;-) >> Which is the way Sopwith wheels are, since the axle is held with bungee cord. I have argued this with judges a lot (since I also don't splay them at exactly the same angles) and have even had to show photos to prove the point. TC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:09:35 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: More OT at Modeling Madness Message-ID: Hi Guys, Another point on the wheels argument....people get upset with pinkish colored tires on German Aircraft. When I do it I get the impression people are thinking I"m putting a feminine spin to the hobby. Candice >From: Albatrosdv@aol.com >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: More OT at Modeling Madness >Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:56:36 -0400 (EDT) > >In a message dated 8/18/00 7:06:59 AM EST, dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: > ><< But the wheels seems to be a bit splayed out... ;-) >> > >Which is the way Sopwith wheels are, since the axle is held with bungee >cord. > I have argued this with judges a lot (since I also don't splay them at >exactly the same angles) and have even had to show photos to prove the >point. > >TC ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:11:32 GMT From: "Edward Swaim" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Tamiya Field Kitchen Message-ID: I've halfway built a Tamiya WWII German Field Kitchen--the horse-drawn limber and stove unit with two wonderful draft horses and a figure. Based on what I can see in one photograph I have of German soldiers lined up for food behind a field kitchen on the Italian Front, I'm satisfied that the ot model is authentic enough for WWI. Does anyone on the list have any reference material on field kitchens? The kit goes together so easily compared to what I'm used to building and has two wonderfully sculpted draft horses. I'm modifying the figure for WWI and am going to put a stormtrooper with camouflage helmet and Lewis gun on the limber with him to indicate the time period. Edward Swaim Little Rock, Arkansas ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:24:39 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Tamiya Field Kitchen Message-ID: <049c01c00939$30ae77a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Edward: Good tip, I'll se if I can get one of those kitchens, then. The only thing that I seem to remember regarding german ww1 field kitchens were a picture of very grimy german and austrian soldiers lining up, maybe is the same picture that you referred to. Regarding the figure, I guess that it's unlikely that an armed and helmet-clad soldier were near the field kitchen.... unless the troops were starving! For an easy conversion, get some of the ICM figure sets of the 1870 franco/prussian war, wich have german soldiers figures already molded with those flat forage caps (pork pies). Just change limb position as needed, erase the belts and add a small metal dish in the hand of the soldier. HTH D. PS: IIRC those kitchens were called "Goulasch Kanonen". I'm right or confused with something else? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:34:50 -0500 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Morane AI cockpits Message-ID: <000201c0093a$9d56abb0$8d00000a@jcgws> Now who on this list has three personalities? - JG JG JG In a message dated 8/17/00 4:27:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dave@vga-graphics.com writes: << Hi, All Long time no post --- has everybody been playing nicely since I've been away? How many Daves do we have now? >> Dave V.! Good to have you back....oh yeah, there now 284 Daves on the list, if you count that one guy with three personalities, all named Dave. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:38:28 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Morane AI cockpits Message-ID: <000901c0093b$3c1678c0$b6857ed4@mesh> Hi Dave, Welcome back ! Merrill has already given the best advice, go to the Memorial Flight web site http://citeweb.net/memorial-flight/index.html , but only when you have an hour or so to spare. Not because it is slow loading, it isn't, but because there are so many photos that you will want them all. There are sections containing 'in progress' photos on restorations of the Morane AI, Bleriot XI-2, Spad XIII and SE5a (there is also a Fokker Dr1 that I haven't visited) that will have you drooling into your beer. Super detailers beware, this is serious stuff. Regards Len lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: David Vosburgh To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 12:29 AM Subject: Morane AI cockpits > Hi, All > > Long time no post --- has everybody been playing nicely since I've been away? How many > Daves do we have now? > > I've been spending my time this year doing largely silly things (i.e., non-modeling) but > have just gotten my grubby little paws on a copy of Eric's MS AI kit which I'm going to be > photographing for the CSM Web site. Needless to say this has inspired me to start hacking > away at it once the pictures are shot... does anyone have any refs for the cockpit area? I > looked through my index of WWI Aeros, and #108 had something in it; needless to say that's > about three issues before my collection starts. > > Any and all input greatly appreciated, as always. I'll be in digest mode, so it may take > me a day or so to answer... > > All best, > > Dave Vosburgh > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2559 **********************