WWI Digest 2541 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Roden D VI by Marc Flake 2) Re: Bill Bacon award by Albatrosdv@aol.com 3) Re: Breguet 14s by Albatrosdv@aol.com 4) Re: Bill Bacon award by "Brad & Merville" 5) Re: Type N tail (?) by K129000@aol.com 6) Hi-Tech Nieuport has Arrived by "Courtney Allen" 7) Albatros C.V/17 images by "S Karver" 8) Re: Bill Bacon award by "David C. Fletcher" 9) Re: Type N tail (?) by MAnde72343@aol.com 10) Re: Bill Bacon award by Ernest Thomas 11) Flying the Nieuports by Albatrosdv@aol.com 12) In action? nieu-11 by K129000@aol.com 13) Re: In action? nieu-11 by Albatrosdv@aol.com 14) Re: In action? nieu-11 by K129000@aol.com 15) More of those struts! by "Dale Beamish" 16) Aeromaster Decals by "Dale Beamish" 17) Re: Flying the Nieuports by mdf 18) Cookbook by smperry@mindspring.com 19) VIRUS ALERT by David Fleming 20) Re: In action? nieu-11 by "Matthew Bittner" 21) Re: In action? nieu-11 by "P. Howard" 22) Re: In action? nieu-11 by "Matthew Bittner" 23) Re: Albatros C.V/17 images by "Matthew Bittner" 24) Re: Cook-up by Dennis Ugulano 25) Re: Next Cook-up by "David Calhoun" 26) Re: Cook-up by Lee Mensinger 27) Fokker D VII turtledeck by "P. Howard" 28) Re: Cook-up by "cameron rile" 29) Miscellaneous Thoughts on IPMS Regionals by "Nigel Rayner" 30) Re: Cook-up by "Leonard Endy" 31) Re: In action? nieu-11 by "David Calhoun" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 19:39:28 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden D VI Message-ID: <3995EE40.6185@airmail.net> The folks at the Fort Worth Scale Modelers Show liked the Roden Fokker D VI. I spread around the secret of Small Parts stainless steel wire for 1/72 and steel guitar string for 1/48. Got a lot of appreciative "thans you's" from gents struggling with stretched sprue. That means I'll probably have some competition next year. This year, the D VI and a Revell D VII that I built were the only entries in the 1/72 category. The judges preferred the D VI to the D VII. My first foray in 1/48 (a Glencoe Nieuport 28) came in second in a two-horse race with a nicely done Eduard Hanriot. I think my roll is to lower the bar and get people to say, "Hey, I can do as good as that!" Hopefully that will lead to more WWI modelers. As far as pictures of the D VI -- the Squadron guys were there and took a picture of it for the website. They've asked me to do a review, but I don't feel worthy. Can't do much to verify accuracies or inaccuracies. I don't even know if I did the right thing in whacking off the front end of the forward turtledeck part. Oh well, I'll give it a shot. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 21:04:28 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bill Bacon award Message-ID: <9f.94bdcca.26c74e1c@aol.com> In a message dated 8/12/00 3:43:10 PM EST, REwing@aol.com writes: << This is a great idea! I think at least half the stuff in the library was donated by Bill. Yes, there will be a list of things that are in the library, and I will get on it right away. I've thrown in a couple of extra items that I have picked up along with magazine articles that are OT. If anyone wants to send me anything, the address >> If Bill did donate so much to the library, I propose we can do the "traditional" thing in such a situation and call it the Bill Bacon Memorial Library. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 21:06:55 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Breguet 14s Message-ID: Just wondering if the Breguet-makers on The List are aware that the July 2000 issue of Scale Aviation Modeling International has a very good article by a modeler who really went to town on that HiTech kit, plus an article by Harry Woodman on details you want to know about the airplane when making the model, with some appropriate photos. It's well worth picking up if you haven't already. TC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 21:15:50 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: Bill Bacon award Message-ID: <000a01c004c4$05d01d00$ac885ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Hey! Great idea! Brad -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, August 12, 2000 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Bill Bacon award >In a message dated 8/12/00 3:43:10 PM EST, REwing@aol.com writes: > ><< > This is a great idea! I think at least half the stuff in the library > was donated by > Bill. Yes, there will be a list of things that are in the library, and I > will get on it right > away. I've thrown in a couple of extra items that I have picked up along > with > magazine articles that are OT. If anyone wants to send me anything, the > address >> > >If Bill did donate so much to the library, I propose we can do the >"traditional" thing in such a situation and call it the Bill Bacon Memorial >Library. > >Tom > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 21:48:53 EDT From: K129000@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Type N tail (?) Message-ID: In a message dated 00-08-12 20:00:01 EDT, you write: << Yes, the MoS N (and earlier G/Hs and L ) had an "all-flying" horizontal tail, as introduced with the F86E, as well as an "all-flying" vertical tail, features retained of course in the license-built early Pfalz's and copied by Fokker in the E series. >> Thanks to the both of you. Funny, super sonic aircraft today all have "flying tails." I guess things come full circle. K-129 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 18:54:58 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Hi-Tech Nieuport has Arrived Message-ID: <003501c004c9$7d12de20$2cc1480c@oemcomputer> For those interested Squadron has the new 1/48 Hi-Tech Nieuport 24 in stock now. The Roland D.II has still not arrived. The Nieuport is on sale for $29.96. Courtney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 22:14:10 -0400 From: "S Karver" To: Subject: Albatros C.V/17 images Message-ID: <200008130233.WAA15071@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Good evening-- Better late than never. I have posted to photopoint.com (http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=930703&a=7692730) detail drawings from the extensive coverage in Flight of a captured Albatros C.V. More to follow. Enjoy, StefK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 19:38:35 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bill Bacon award Message-ID: <39960A2B.9383C565@mars.ark.com> Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: "If Bill did donate so much to the library, I propose we can do the "traditional" thing in such a situation and call it the Bill Bacon Memorial Library. I concur. The Internet has been around for less than ten years and, before the next 'communication generation' occurs, others will pass on has Bill has. While Diego's original suggestion has great merit, we should confer only one honour on each departed member. Bill made his mark on the library, and that is where his name should be immortalized. Diego's idea should wait until some great contestant passes. If I may quote a WWI RFC toast, "Stand to your glasses steady, for this is a world of lies, here's to the dead already, and here's to the next man who dies". Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:42:13 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Type N tail (?) Message-ID: <77.82c6bb6.26c77315@aol.com> The 'all flying tail' on ot supersonic aircraft was something worked out between Chuck Yeager, and the Bell techs during testing of the X-1; the all flying tails of early Fokkers and Moranes, made them tricky to fly, and unstable as hell; flying them took constant attention, those planes were very tiring to fly. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:13:01 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Bill Bacon award Message-ID: <3996204D.A9798E57@bellsouth.net> "David C. Fletcher" wrote: > I concur.(snip) Bill made his > mark on the library, and that is where his name should be immortalized. This sounds great to me too. But I'm still willing to make a (group?) contribution to the war bird museum. I know a couple people offered to admin that. I'm willing as well. Who's it gonna be? > Diego's idea should wait until some great contestant passes. Oh, let's not wait that long(RK is still a young man). It sounds like fun. And I'm all ready to nominate SP for the "Alchemist" award, which is given to the modeler who makes the best silk purse from a sow's ear. > > If I may quote a WWI RFC toast, "Stand to your glasses steady, for this > is a world of lies, here's to the dead already, and here's to the next > man who dies". Now that's a keeper. Consider it filed away for the next bachelor party. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 00:13:21 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Flying the Nieuports Message-ID: <9c.66cc4e0.26c77a61@aol.com> Am steadily reading through Stuart Elliott's really good "Wooden Crates and Gallant Pilots." (Turns out he was a second cousin of Theodore Roosevelt) I hadn't seen anything written by anyone before about the actual flying characteristics of rotary-powered airplanes, but he goes into a bit of detail in his memories of flying Nieuport 17s and 23s at advanced training at Issoudun. To me as a pilot, this is quite interesting (and makes me think about flying that great monster, the Stearman, about which it has been said that "a Stearman isn't landed till it's shut down, chocked down and tied down."): >From the book: "The Issoudun training Nieuports were powered with 80 to 120 horsepower LeRhone rotary engines. These planes had relatively small rudders, and their left lower wings had a greater angle of incidence than the right, to compensate for the engine's torque, which at flying speed was considerable. These small rudders were delicately effective on the short-fuselaged Nieuports, when airborne and flying at speeds of from 90 to 115 miles per hour, but on the ground at lower speeds, the rudder had to be used very vigorously to conrol the plane, and to keep it rolling in a straight line. "On the ground, the left wing dragged, and unless the pilot was alert, and instantly ready to apply hard right rudder as a check, the Nieuport had a habit of suddenly making a violent turn to the left, which the French called a "cheval de bois" (a wooden merry-go-round horse), and this generally ended in a burst landing tire, a crumpled wingtip, or even a nose-over and a broken propeller. (Which reminds me of one summer when we went through *six* lower left wings in our Stearman!) This tendency toward a left ground loop was evern worse when the ground had undulations, which was commonly the case on most fields in those days, and if there was ice or a light blanket of snow, it took a kind of sixth sense coming from experience, and lightning action, to anticipate and check a bad, complete about-face ground loop. "The rotary engines of those days had one manette, a small lever that regulated the flow of gasoline into the carburetor, and a larger manette, the actual throttle, that regulated the flow of air and gas into the inlet valve. The trick was to manipulate them both while flying, all the time making constant small adjustments to keep the motor running smoothly. This took a delicate sense of touch, and some were never able to make sense of it. One of our French instructors called it, "de la finesse comme avec une belle dame a Paris!" "The Nieuport had a tendency to stall very suddenly and go into a dangerous spin, if one climbed a bit too steeply or made a sharp turn in the wrong manner. Due to the torque, there was a strong tendency for the nose to drop in a right turn, and an opposite climbing effect in a left turn, either of which was stronger if highly banked. Uncorrected, either could easily cause a spin, and the pilot had to use a differing technique depending on the direction of his turn. It was not too easy to transfer from the stable Jenny to the delicate, unstable Nieuport, but it was easier for us than for the pilots who had taken their training on the primitive Caudrons, which took some muscle to control. Thie Nieuports could be controlled with a thumb and forefinger. They were very treacherous, in the air and on the ground, and many unwary students were killed flying them." Here a very interesting comment on the Nieuport 17: "The 18-meter, powered with the same engine as the 23-meter, flew and landed faster because of its lesser wing surface, and for some reason in its design, it had the greatest record at Issoudun for stalling and spinning with little warning, and it proved more dangerous to student pilots. A great many students were killed at Issoudun, but the greatest percentage of fatalities for the number of hours flown occurred on the 18-meter Nieuport." The section ends thus: "The JN-4 was a much better preparation for advanced flying than the Caudron. Later, it was discovered that the British Avro was a still better primary trainer. Our students who had trained in England on Avros were among the quickest to master advanced flying." Like I said, interersting material. TC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 00:46:44 EDT From: K129000@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: In action? nieu-11 Message-ID: <3a.903acd7.26c78234@aol.com> Just wondering, is there a specific in-action book dedicated to the nieu 11 or just nieuport scouts in general. If I ever finish my current OT project (OLD, i.e. 1949 Su-15) I'm thinking of doing something ww1. Thanks K-129 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 01:07:30 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: In action? nieu-11 Message-ID: <36.a03fb0d.26c78712@aol.com> In a message dated 8/12/00 11:49:51 PM EST, K129000@aol.com writes: << Just wondering, is there a specific in-action book dedicated to the nieu 11 or just nieuport scouts in general. >> "Nieuport Scouts In Action" - 10 to 28. HTH TC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 02:50:49 EDT From: K129000@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: In action? nieu-11 Message-ID: In a message dated 00-08-13 01:10:42 EDT, you write: << "Nieuport Scouts In Action" - 10 to 28. HTH >> Thanks I'll check for it at the hobby store next time K-129 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 07:23:36 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: "List" Subject: More of those struts! Message-ID: <014601c00529$b32f6680$2c37b8a1@darcy> Because of the demand for the Alb landing struts I'm going to have 30-40 more sets ready by the end of the month. Anyone interested please let me know ahead of time. Contact me off list at: lozenge1@telusplanet.net Thanks Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 08:01:30 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: "List" Subject: Aeromaster Decals Message-ID: <023c01c0052e$ff2abf80$2c37b8a1@darcy> Does anyone have the Aeromaster sheet 48-181: Albatros Fighter Collection Pt. I? I'm wanting a set of the markings for A/C 5, the wavy lined Alb DIII. If anyone has a set would you please contact me off list at: lozenge1@telusplanet.net Thanks Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:19:11 -0400 From: mdf To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Flying the Nieuports Message-ID: <3996AE5F.B5E0BA0C@mars.ark.com> Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > > Am steadily reading through Stuart Elliott's really good "Wooden Crates and The 18 meter Nieuport was the Nieuport 10, and the 23 meter was the Nieuport 12 while the Nieuport 17 was a 15 meter Nieuport. The number referred to the total wing area. Training versions of the 10 and 12 were built with the 10 turning into the 80 and 81 (single vs dual control) and the 12 becoming the 83. Both the 18 and 23 meter Nieuports were two seaters and were still slow compared to the scouts. Ironically the 10 had been designed to be a safer racer than its contemporaries particularly at low speed, while still maintaining the performace that Nieuport had become famous for. Oddly enough the modern replicas of the Nieuport have been described as flying much like a Cessna except where the rudder is concerned (for which deft manipulation of the rudder bar is still required) but then they don't usually use the Nieuport aerofoil section, with its sharp leading edge. > "The 18-meter, powered with the same engine as the 23-meter, flew and landed > faster because of its lesser wing surface, and for some reason in its design, > it had the greatest record at Issoudun for stalling and spinning with little > warning, and it proved more dangerous to student pilots. A great many > students were killed at Issoudun, but the greatest percentage of fatalities > for the number of hours flown occurred on the 18-meter Nieuport." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:22:13 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Cookbook Message-ID: <000901c00531$e0cc5dc0$a00556d1@default> I have been pressed for time this past week and have not been able yo actively pursue the cookbook idea, but before it becomes too old I'd like to get it started. If you are so inclined to share some of your favorite techniques, please write them up. Digital sketches and /or photos are real nice, but a good clear text explaination is just as good. Please do not hesitate to write something down because you think that the subject is covered. There is no one "right" way to do anything. Some techniques work for some modelers and not for others. Several differing techniques to do the same thing will offer the reader a choice and like as not he or she will end up combining ideas to develop a method that works for them. If you have a trick that works, but is specific to a single type of aircraft, please send that too as well as more general topics. You balsa butchers out there, this includes you too. I haven't the time to do extensive searches of the list archives, but if you do and feel like it, copies of good tips that have been posted to the list would be greatly appreciated. I have a few stashed away in a directory where I save them as they come up on the list. Perhaps you may have a similar stash. So let's all chip in and send along some tips that work for you. We can put together an outstanding collection that, being all in one place, will be a valuable resource to anyone enjoying the hobby of building WWI models. Send your material to the e-mail below and be sure to use COOKBOOK in the subject line. TIA and Best Regards sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:00:51 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list , cci@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: VIRUS ALERT Message-ID: <3996B823.2A25D7@dial.pipex.com> To those who subscribe to the digest version of the CCI list - the last (166 ?) had a copy of the KAK virus/worm attached. My copy of Norton AV picked it up, but others may not have been so lucky. David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:06:56 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: In action? nieu-11 Message-ID: <200008131506.IAA06219@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 01:12:58 -0400 (EDT), Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > << Just wondering, is there a specific in-action book dedicated to the nieu > 11 > or just nieuport scouts in general. >> > > "Nieuport Scouts In Action" - 10 to 28. Blech! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:19:59 -0500 From: "P. Howard" To: Subject: Re: In action? nieu-11 Message-ID: <001601c00539$f30c05a0$4d898ece@phoward> "Nieuport Scouts In Action" - 10 to 28. > >Blech! > > >Matt Bittner Translated for the Non-Francophiles, "blech" means that Matt was somewhat disappointed with the accuracy of the research, the depth of coverage for each aircraft, and the fact that it does not come with burning instructions included... Is this correct Matt? Paul H ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:22:50 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: In action? nieu-11 Message-ID: <200008131522.IAA03579@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 11:23:59 -0400 (EDT), P. Howard wrote: > Is this correct Matt? Bingo. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:23:36 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Albatros C.V/17 images Message-ID: <200008131523.IAA15238@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 22:35:33 -0400 (EDT), S Karver wrote: > Good evening-- > Better late than never. I have posted to photopoint.com > (http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=930703&a=7692730) > detail drawings from the extensive coverage in Flight of a captured > Albatros C.V. More to follow. These are excellent. However, I would like to save them from disk if you're agreeable, but PhotoPoint won't let me. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 11:49:12 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Cook-up Message-ID: <200008131149_MC2-AF8F-131D@compuserve.com> Everyone, The Albatros D.IV is complete and ready to send. Since I get confused easily over all of the addresses, where do I submit my offerings? I don't want to send it to the wrong place. The camera is back home and working well. However, I have discovered an area of concern with a digital camera. With my 35mm, after scanning and editing, I could get photos on line at just under 50k. Nice size and easy to download. However, the digital camera doesn't make anything that small. If I shoot at Hi Resolution and fine, I have a file just under 1meg. After editing it reduced down to 447k which is still too big. I save as a jpeg which does not allow me to reduce the colors to drop it down in size some more. I have to save as a gif which washes out some to the detail. This is after dropping the camera resolution down to the its lowest possible settings. If anyone with a digital camera can give me any suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it. The SPAD XI is heading for the paint shop after confirming the colors with Matt. Six models have come home from the hobby shop for a photo session. I will change the photos on the Lohner L seaplane today. I may get the BE2e on line soon as it is home for the photo shoot. My vote for the Cook up is the Nieuport and I feel everyone on the list should have a say so in the selection of the next one. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 8/2/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:32:29 -0700 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Next Cook-up Message-ID: <036c01c0055d$38efa220$de083ccc@oemcomputer> I vote for Nieuport, since I have already done a N. 11, 17, 21, 25 & 28 in 1/48 scale as well as almost finishing my 1/24 scale N.17 in Lufbery's markings. I still need to do the type 10, 16, 17 bis, 24/27! Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: ZELNICK, KENNETH T To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, August 10, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: Next Cook-up >Nieuport sounds good, since my next build was gonna be a Nie 28. Can I >start now? You guys only give about a 6-month time limit on the cook-ups. > >Ken Zelnick > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:05:05 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, lemen@x25.net Subject: Re: Cook-up Message-ID: <3996D541.CAD8765A@x25.net> --------------AAD7ADFDA38FD2EF17D8207F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis Since the Internet is rather poor for any real detail on photographs. It may be a good idea to make the digital twice. Once in a higher resolution and one for sending on the net. The (vga) 640 X 480 jpeg setting exceeds the capability of the Internet. So if your primary reason is transmitting the photo go low. If you want it as a printed photo go high. I have a graphics program "PhotoSuiteIII" which allows me to make/save and send low res, jpeg pictures at about 44KB and less. I have some 35mm photos saved as 200+ mb, and more, TIFF. "Reduce the picture size" to perhaps less then 3 X 5 inches. Select jpeg and the compression factor you want. Save it then send it as that saved file. I can do it without having it captured as an attachment. The message and all will not be much more than 50k. Lee M. Dennis Ugulano wrote: > The camera is back home and working well. However, I have > discovered an area of concern with a digital camera. With my 35mm, after > scanning and editing, I could get photos on line at just under 50k. Nice > size and easy to download. However, the digital camera doesn't make > anything that small. If I shoot at Hi Resolution and fine, I have a file > just under 1meg. After editing it reduced down to 447k which is still too > big. I save as a jpeg which does not allow me to reduce the colors to drop > it down in size some more. I have to save as a gif which washes out some > to the detail. This is after dropping the camera resolution down to the > its lowest possible settings. > If anyone with a digital camera can give me any suggestions, I would > greatly appreciate it. > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm > Page Revised 8/2/00 > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." --------------AAD7ADFDA38FD2EF17D8207F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis

Since the Internet is rather poor for any real detail on photographs.  It may
be a good idea to make the digital twice.  Once in a higher resolution and one
for sending on the net.  The (vga) 640 X 480 jpeg setting exceeds the
capability of the Internet.  So if your primary reason is transmitting the
photo go low.  If you want it as a printed photo go high.

I have a graphics program "PhotoSuiteIII" which allows me to make/save and send low res, jpeg pictures at about 44KB and less. I have some 35mm photos saved as 200+ mb, and more, TIFF.

"Reduce the picture size" to perhaps less then 3 X 5 inches.  Select  jpeg and the compression factor you want.  Save it then send it as that saved file.

I can do it without having it captured as an attachment.  The message and all will not be much more than 50k.

Lee M.
 
 

Dennis Ugulano wrote:

        The camera is back home and working well.  However, I have
discovered an area of concern with a digital camera.  With my 35mm, after
scanning and editing, I could get photos on line at just under 50k.  Nice
size and easy to download.  However, the digital camera doesn't make
anything that small.  If I shoot at Hi Resolution and fine, I have a file
just under 1meg. After editing it reduced down to 447k which is still too
big.  I save as a jpeg which does not allow me to reduce the colors to drop
it down in size some more.  I have to save as a gif which washes out some
to the detail.  This is after dropping the camera resolution down to the
its lowest possible settings.
If anyone with a digital camera can give me any suggestions, I would
greatly appreciate it.
Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com
http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm
Page Revised 8/2/00
"Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism."
--------------AAD7ADFDA38FD2EF17D8207F-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:58:14 -0500 From: "P. Howard" To: "WWI POST" Subject: Fokker D VII turtledeck Message-ID: <002401c00550$0e8e4020$4d898ece@phoward> Hi all, Has anyone made any progress on tracking down a pattern for the shape differences in Fokker D.VII turtledecks yet? I realize that if you aren't working on one at the moment, it isn't a priority. Personally, I find structural differences between aircraft of like type fascinating. Any opinions? Any knowledgeable hypotheses? Anyone care for a mint? Just checking... Paul H ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:14:26 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cook-up Message-ID: <7FD2B29690174D115AC40005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com>
Dennis,

>The Albatros D.IV is complete and ready to send.  Since I get
>confused easily over all of the addresses, where do I submit my offerings?
>I don't want to send it to the wrong place.

otprojects@prontomail.com

Ill pick it up from there and post it to the cook-up page

>size and easy to download.  However, the digital camera doesn't make
>anything that small.  If I shoot at Hi Resolution and fine, I have a file

Like Lee said. I take the digital phot usually at medium resolution which comes out to about
1200 pixels wide. I save it to my hdd in that size as a jpg and then using Paint Shop Pro
(www.jasc.com) I shrink it to something more suitable for the web such as 500 to 600 pixels
across.  




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------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:36:15 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Miscellaneous Thoughts on IPMS Regionals Message-ID: <000601c0055d$bfec3680$f1d4883e@w1o0t3> Hi all, Attended a new regional IPMS meet in the UK at Bournemouth this weekend. Picked up the Eduard Dr1 and can confirm that this is very nice kit. This really is the ideal first kit for a newbie (sorry John, junk that DVII now :-)) - the two lower wings are easily fitted and the top one should be a cinch plus minimal rigging. I also picked up some of the new Eduard WWI seatbelts in 1/72 (French, RFC and German). I know I've said previously I would always make these from lead foil in 1/72, but I'm eating those words now. These are beautiful pieces of work, about 7-8 pairs of belts of different types in each set. Very highly recommended for miniscalers. And another thought that struck me. As I don't go to many of these shows and don't belong to a physical club, I forget just how high the overall standard of work here is. A lot of the stuff on club displays was very average, compared to what is displayed here. I don't mean to sound elitist, I'm just trying to say we are lucky to have a collection of such great talents in one place, and it's always inspiring just to look through the galleries at all the great work. I guess that's one of the benefits of a "virtual" club - there's no "in transit" damage risk! Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:39:17 -0400 From: "Leonard Endy" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cook-up Message-ID: On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 11:54:59 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Everyone, > > The camera is back home and working well. However, I have >discovered an area of concern with a digital camera. With my 35mm, after >scanning and editing, I could get photos on line at just under 50k. Nice >size and easy to download. However, the digital camera doesn't make >anything that small. If I shoot at Hi Resolution and fine, I have a file >just under 1meg. After editing it reduced down to 447k which is still too >big. I save as a jpeg which does not allow me to reduce the colors to drop >it down in size some more. Use any image editing program and once the photo is loaded "resize" it to 640x480, or whatever your preferred size is, then save it as a JPG. Before saving you should be able to set the compression level - try 75% for starters. > I have to save as a gif which washes out some >to the detail. The GIF format does not use any compression so you end up with some big files. If you have any other questions Dennis e-mail me direct. Len ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 15:58:46 -0700 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: In action? nieu-11 Message-ID: <030101c0057a$0a928f60$90083ccc@oemcomputer> the best reference for early Nieuports (type 10-17) is the Windsock Nieuport Fighters Vol. 1 special by Albatros Publications - available via mail order from many places, this book has scale drawings for 11, 16 & 17, color profiles and color photos of Belgium type 23 being restored with many detail shots. I still can't determine where the extra Lewis gun drums were stored. anyone have any ideas? Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: P. Howard To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, August 13, 2000 8:22 AM Subject: Re: In action? nieu-11 > >"Nieuport Scouts In Action" - 10 to 28. >> >>Blech! >> >> >>Matt Bittner > >Translated for the Non-Francophiles, "blech" means that Matt was somewhat >disappointed with the accuracy of the research, the depth of coverage for >each aircraft, and the fact that it does not come with burning instructions >included... > >Is this correct Matt? > >Paul H > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2541 **********************