WWI Digest 2538

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Bill Bacon
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
  2) Re: Seeing red over Testors, was Re: More dumb newbee questions
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
  3) Re: Initialisms for the uninitiated
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
  4) Re: Spad VII
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
  5) Bill Bacon Award and Testors
	by John_Impenna@hyperion.com
  6) Re: How Many Models?
	by MAnde72343@aol.com
  7) Various Comments
	by "Nigel Rayner" <nigel@rosnar.freeserve.co.uk>
  8) Re: Next Cook-up
	by "Dale Sebring" <alleluja@ida.net>
  9) Re: Breguet 14s
	by Morg17ms@aol.com
 10) Re: Breguet 14s
	by MAnde72343@aol.com
 11) Re: How Many Models?
	by Allan Wright <aew>
 12) Re: Cook-up
	by "cameron rile" <cameron@prontomail.com>
 13) RE: Bill Bacon award
	by "cameron rile" <cameron@prontomail.com>
 14) Re: Bill Bacon Contributions
	by Zulis@aol.com
 15) Re: Bill Bacon Contributions
	by "Dale Beamish" <lozenge1@telusplanet.net>
 16) Flattening Future
	by John_Impenna@hyperion.com
 17) Re: How Many Models?
	by Zulis@aol.com
 18) Nice model pic, didn't come out :(
	by K129000@aol.com
 19) Re: Next Cook-up
	by "P. Howard" <phoward@abilene.com>
 20) Re: Flattening Future
	by huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins)
 21) Re: Next Cook-up
	by "Dale Sebring" <alleluja@ida.net>
 22) SPAD VII
	by "Michael Franklin" <modelhound@earthlink.net>
 23) Re: Bill Bacon award
	by "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>
 24) Strange Request
	by "Dale Beamish" <lozenge1@telusplanet.net>
 25) Nats photos
	by "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
 26) Re: Cook-up
	by "Michael S. Alvarado" <sm5192@bellatlantic.net>
 27) Re: Strange Request
	by Zulis@aol.com
 28) Re: Bill Bacon award
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
 29) Re: Cook-up
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
 30) Re: Flattening Future
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
 31) Re: Roden D VI
	by Marc Flake <mflake@airmail.net>

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:40:45 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Bill Bacon
Message-ID: <00f601c003be$296db8a0$b187aec7@com>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Beamish" <lozenge1@telusplanet.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Bill Bacon


> > > All in favor of making a group contribution to the Canadian Warplane
> > > Heritage Museum, say "eye".
> 
> Count me in!
> Dale Beamish
> 
> 
Me too.

                DB


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:52:41 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Seeing red over Testors, was Re: More dumb newbee questions
Message-ID: <00f901c003be$2c03f3e0$b187aec7@com>

Some people express concern at all of the chemicals that I/we use in our
hobby, and that many are carcinogens.  Modelling doesn't give you cancer, it
gives you Testors.


DB
----- Original Message -----
From: <MAnde72343@aol.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: Seeing red over Testors, was Re: More dumb newbee questions


> Did they but Italeri? I thought that was just marketing, since
discontinued.
> They're too stingy to buy DML, Tommy C already has an ongoing relationship
> with Revell of Hunland, (they have real money). When they 'kill' Floquil,
I
> will get a complete list of their corporations and never buy another
product
> they make of sell, ever, Amen
> Merrill
>


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:57:05 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Initialisms for the uninitiated
Message-ID: <00fa01c003be$2cc436a0$b187aec7@com>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: Initialisms for the uninitiated


> On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:37:03 -0400 (EDT), David Solosy wrote:
>
> > Any others chaps ansd chapesses?
> > Perhaps these could be added to the FAQ page on the site. Al?
>
> Boy, I can tell no one looks at the site...  Gads...
>
>
> Matt Bittner
>

There's only a godawful long list of shorthand on the FAQ page!


DB

nl: Mussorgsky: 'Pictures At An Exhibition'
nb: The D.H.2, 425/17, looking at a M-S, and playing with an Alb. C.III.  As
soon as all of the lozenge arrives, expect a D.VII and a SSW D.III to leap
from tthe 'nearly finished' to the 'done' pile.
>


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:58:45 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Spad VII
Message-ID: <00fb01c003be$2d8da120$b187aec7@com>

Hi Paul!

    No, I was unaware, and thanks for the info!


DB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul E. Thompson" <flutes@xs4all.nl>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 7:17 AM
Subject: Spad VII


> Hi all,
>
> Sorry if I've missed mention of this in the digest mode, but there is
> always the Spad VII in brass and white metal by AJP. I've got one in front
> of me, unmade 'cos it's horrible complicated and the instructions are in
> French (which is all, well, French to me). But, FWIW, Rimell liked it when
> reviewing it in Winsock vol 15 no.6, and the wings ARE made of 2 halves,
to
> give an aerofoil section, something they     neglected to do on some of
> their earlier, simpler models and Caproni Ca.3. The only thing 'wrong' is
> that the struts look thin, being etched brass. If you can live with the
DML
> 13 inner struts, you can live with these. And if not, there's always
> Strutz, or bamboo, or whatnot ('though whatnot may be harder to get in
> America). The major downside is that it's expensive, and you need to find
> your own markings, but A/G, Blue Rider, and even Error Master do 1/48
decal
> sheets for them.
>
> If those concerned were already aware of all this, sorry for the waste of
> bandwidth.
>
>
> Paul Thompson.
>


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:24:00 -0400
From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Bill Bacon Award and Testors
Message-ID: <85256938.00655B06.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com>



Hi All,
I have read all of the admiration for Bill Bacon and while I only knew him as
"wbacon"  also, I'd be interested in contributing to an award.  It could be an
award voted on by listmembers after nominations are made.  Just a thought.

Regarding Testors, we need to tell them we are no longer using their products
and why.  If there is one thing the "NET" is good for, it is organizing a
boycott.  Regardless of how you feel on the siubject, a majority of us use or
have used Testors, gthey are quality paints and we can probably, for the most
part, afford them.  We shouldn't be held hostage however.  If they get enough
letters, emails or calls and see their sales drop off, they WILL, believe me,
change their pricing policy.  Don't justify their actions by supporting them.

Regards,
John



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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:56:03 EDT
From: MAnde72343@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: How Many Models?
Message-ID: <27.9830988.26c5a643@aol.com>

Al, I build my 1/72 for war-gaming, but I don't put in pilots (I haven't 
found any decent period figures) So I put in interior detail, & etc., plus 
aftermarket parts, scratch corrections, and so on, as a result although I 
have built over 30 planes, no one else will use them in a game, because 
they're afraid to damage them (but everyone wants to see the 'new' ones) 
FWIW, your Albatross looks as nice as any I've seen.
Merrill


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:05:49 +0100
From: "Nigel Rayner" <nigel@rosnar.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Various Comments
Message-ID: <000801c003c7$2ab73980$ea02883e@w1o0t3>

Hi all,

A digest lurker catching up on a few threads.....

First, farewell Bill and condolences to his family. Although I didn't have
the pleasure of meeting or corresponding with him, it is obvious he was a
fine man. It is sad when the group loses a friend in these circumstances but
rewarding to see the affection in which he was held by many.

Second, one colour rib tapes. Very sensible point Shane. I tend to agree,
and both the Pfalz DXII and Fokker DVII in Le Bourget have the same colour
rib tapes ("pink", although dusky red is a better description) on upper and
lower surfaces. Admittedly these are restored aircraft, but it's some
circumstantial evidence at least.

Finally, the cook up - I agree with Bob L. Let's get this one finished
first. I'm progressing really slowly (I hope to be done by Sept) but there
don't seem to be many pics of actiual models on the site yet. I expected to
be one of the last!! Then, and only then, should we agree on the next one.
But Bob, a word of advice - there aren't any goals in baseball.....:-)

Cheers,

Nigel


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:16:27 -0600
From: "Dale Sebring" <alleluja@ida.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up
Message-ID: <003d01c003c8$a6fb3f40$c6b58dd0@main>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ernest Thomas" <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up


> Just to throw in my own .02 sack of severed heads, why don't we make the
> subject much broader; Built whatever you want in your fantasy markings. 
> I'm not trying to suggest something that I already have a finished model
> for(because I'm not finished with the tigers yet) but it sure was fun
> doing the D-VII and every one can build whatever kit they want.
> E.
> 
That sounds like a great idea E.
Dale S.


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:39:15 EDT
From: Morg17ms@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Breguet 14s
Message-ID: <aa.91a213d.26c5b063@aol.com>

For anyone thinking about their Hi-Tech 1:48 Breguet 14, there are two recent 
goodies to gander at:

    Scale Aviation Modeler International, Vol 6, No 6, June/00 p472-8
        a great article by H. Woodman with super photos and drawings

    WWI Aero, No 169, Aug/00 p64-70 - 'Cockpits & Instruments' by R. Meyers
        fantastic panel details - photos and drawings, several versions.  
Also a 20       item translation of French to English of panel details

Apparently Albatros Productions is working on an upcoming DataFile on the 
beast.

Tom Morgan

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:45:47 EDT
From: MAnde72343@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Breguet 14s
Message-ID: <18.d83298.26c5b1eb@aol.com>

That's good news, I have three different 1/72 kits and the 'Hit or miss' Tech 
1/48, but have been reluctant to start without a good reference.
Merrill


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:00:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: How Many Models?
Message-ID: <200008112000.QAA08990@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

> Al, I build my 1/72 for war-gaming, but I don't put in pilots (I haven't 
> found any decent period figures) So I put in interior detail, & etc., plus 
> aftermarket parts, scratch corrections, and so on, as a result although I 
> have built over 30 planes, no one else will use them in a game, because 
> they're afraid to damage them (but everyone wants to see the 'new' ones) 
> FWIW, your Albatross looks as nice as any I've seen.
> Merrill

Thanks Merrill,

   I took an arfix pilot from a kit, used it as a 'dolly' and added some
details to make it acceptable for me. This master I made an RTF mold from
and now I cast my pilots in lead. They're all the same, but they work.

-Al

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:46:31 -0500
From: "cameron rile" <cameron@prontomail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Cook-up
Message-ID: <6ACAD11F99F64D115AC40005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com>

John,

>what's a cook-up?

The list is currently conducting a;

 Great Albatros Model Cook-Up 

  http://members.xoom.com/OTprojects/index.html
  
It was an all-inclusive project in part to get everyone building, in part to show off the variety in 
a WWI subject as well as have fun swapping methods, tricks, tips and photos of finished 
models. The list chose the Albatros to start with as it was an airplane with many differant 
marks, markings and kits in all scales.

The cook-up has become something other than just a build page. List members have 
contributed in an amazing number of ways, from Bob Pearson's profiles, Diego's cartoons, 
Marks virtual CAD-CAM build up of an Albatros, kit reviews, build articles to finished Albatros 
kits. The list has shown its creativity in many areas through the build-up.

Though as Bob Laskodi mentioned there are so far under ten finished pledged build-ups thus 
far :) and the end of September deadline is looming!!! I can understand those that have 
finished champing at the bit to another build-up, but I 'aint doing no Nieuport or Sopwith page 
'til this build up be finished. :)




cam 



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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:57:13 -0500
From: "cameron rile" <cameron@prontomail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: RE: Bill Bacon award
Message-ID: <46DAD11F99F64D115AC40005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com>

>Actually, the first thought that went through *my* mind was to name
>something we were doing when he passed after him - then to wonder whether we
>couldn't simply place a dedication on the Albatros Cookup itself, in his
>memory ?

No worries, could one of Bills best mates from the list write a dedication for it? Ill post it up to 
the cook-up page.



cam


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:05:06 EDT
From: Zulis@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Bill Bacon Contributions
Message-ID: <ac.90d0396.26c5c482@aol.com>


Greetings, list members!

While I was at work, I was reading the many posts about Bill.   We have some 
eloquent writers here, and it is obvious that Bill was a friend to all of us, 
one way or another.

Someone suggested that list members, as a group, might want to contribute to 
Bill's selected charity the "Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum".   I read 
that a list member reasonably asked why not contribute to a Texas 
organization instead.   In Pensacola, when Bill learned I was from Canada, he 
told me he had many friends up here and visited them every year.   I am 
assuming that this was his connection with the CWHM and, as it was his 
family's request (probably at Bill's instruction) I have no desire to 
second-guess his request.

Finally, as I am on this side of the border, I would like to volunteer my 
services to collect the donations assuming, of course, that the list has no 
objections.    As Al pointed out, this sort of thing needs to be done ASAP, 
so I would propose a cut-off date of Sept. 5 at which time I will convert all 
the donations into Canadian dollars, forward them to the museum on behalf of 
the "WWI modellers", and give an accounting to the list.   

My address is:

Dave Zulis
9 Rosalind Crescent
Toronto, Ontario
CANADA  M1L 2W8

Of course, if someone else wishes to do this instead, I will help out in any 
way I can.  Please let me know if this is agreeable.

Regards,

Dave Z

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:14:07 -0600
From: "Dale Beamish" <lozenge1@telusplanet.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Bill Bacon Contributions
Message-ID: <00c801c003d9$187cea00$a837b8a1@darcy>

Sounds good to me Dave
Dale

> Finally, as I am on this side of the border, I would like to volunteer my
> services to collect the donations assuming, of course, that the list has
no
> objections.    As Al pointed out, this sort of thing needs to be done
ASAP,
> so I would propose a cut-off date of Sept. 5 at which time I will convert
all
> the donations into Canadian dollars, forward them to the museum on behalf
of
> the "WWI modellers", and give an accounting to the list.
>
> My address is:
>
> Dave Zulis
> 9 Rosalind Crescent
> Toronto, Ontario
> CANADA  M1L 2W8
>
> Of course, if someone else wishes to do this instead, I will help out in
any
> way I can.  Please let me know if this is agreeable.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Z


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:19:39 -0400
From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Flattening Future
Message-ID: <85256938.00756FDA.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com>



Hi All,
Has anyone tried anything other than Tamiya Flat Base to flatten Future?  Any
help is appreciated as I just ran out of Flat Base!!! and want to try to finish
my DV this weekend!!

Regards,
John



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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:54:37 EDT
From: Zulis@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: How Many Models?
Message-ID: <67.8289da2.26c5d01d@aol.com>


<<    I took an arfix pilot from a kit, used it as a 'dolly' and added some
 details to make it acceptable for me. This master I made an RTF mold from
 and now I cast my pilots in lead. They're all the same, but they work. >>

I have a glass jar in which I would dump pilots from various kits (all ot - 
the OT ones almost never have pilots).   As a baseball fan, I thought I might 
one day sit them all on bleachers and do a "1960s minor league ballpark" 
diorama.   (has to be 1960s  cause the only way to disguise all the pilot's 
helmets is to paint them as afros).   Never throw anything away - you never 
know when you'll need it....

Dave Z

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:55:19 EDT
From: K129000@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Nice model pic, didn't come out :(
Message-ID: <92.8a1d984.26c5d047@aol.com>

I just got back pictures from the Pima Air Museum in Tuscon Az.  
Unfortunately I forgot to use the flash indoors (bad K-129!) and only one 
came out.

They had a nice model (1/72 scale IIRC) of a Curtis pusher at the begining of 
a shipboard ramp.  (The first takeoff from a "carrier")  Darn, I was going to 
put that on the net.

K-129

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:05:25 -0500
From: "P. Howard" <phoward@abilene.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up
Message-ID: <009a01c003e0$419deb80$17928ece@phoward>

Isn't that making the selection process a little exclusive?  There are
plenty of people who weren't subscribed when that idea came about.  Newbies
or not, they should have a voice.
Shane mentioned the growth rate of the list the other day.  Without making
people feel at home, we will become stagnant.

 Just my $.02 worth.

Paul H
-----Original Message-----
From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com <Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Date: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up


>
>I feel only those people who participated in the original cookup get to
>vote on the next one.
>


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:17:25 -0500
From: huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins)
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Flattening Future
Message-ID: <p04320400b5ba2b4372b8@[64.217.216.128]>

>Hi All,
>Has anyone tried anything other than Tamiya Flat Base to flatten Future?  Any
>help is appreciated as I just ran out of Flat Base!!! and want to 
>try to finish
>my DV this weekend!!
>
>Regards,
>John
I have used the old Polly S clear flat for years (new version comes 
in Aeromaster bottle).  It can be mixed out of the bottle in any 
ratio to give anything from a dead flat (no Future) to a gloss (no 
flat).  Spray it on and it is dry to the touch within 15 minutes, and 
completely cured in 24 hours.

John

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:51:47 -0600
From: "Dale Sebring" <alleluja@ida.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up
Message-ID: <001e01c003e6$bc4e8dc0$2ab58dd0@main>


----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Howard" <phoward@abilene.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Next Cook-up


> Isn't that making the selection process a little exclusive?  There are
> plenty of people who weren't subscribed when that idea came about.
Newbies
> or not, they should have a voice.
> Shane mentioned the growth rate of the list the other day.  Without making
> people feel at home, we will become stagnant.
>
>  Just my $.02 worth.
>
> Paul H
Thank you Paul, I for one would appreciate having the opportunity vote if I
were building an entry.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com <Brent.A.Theobald@seagate.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Date: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Next Cook-up
>
>
> >
> >I feel only those people who participated in the original cookup get to
> >vote on the next one.
> >
>


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:56:57 -0700
From: "Michael Franklin" <modelhound@earthlink.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: SPAD VII
Message-ID: <02ab01c003e7$74919300$15ecfc9e@mr.-picker>

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:19:19 -0700
From: "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Bill Bacon award
Message-ID: <200008112313.QAA32091@mail.rapidnet.net>



> What about something aloong the lines of a most helpful, cooperative .....
> something like a "nice guy" award. Wouldn't this be more appropriate?
> Just my $.02
> Dale

That works for me .. and it describes Bill perfectly

Bob

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:04:02 -0600
From: "Dale Beamish" <lozenge1@telusplanet.net>
To: "List" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Strange Request
Message-ID: <012201c003e8$72bc1a40$a837b8a1@darcy>

Any members of German descent perhaps you could help me out. I'm searching
for a good drawing, of the "Munchner Kindl", a legendary figure popular in
Munich folklore & symbology. It consists of a robed priest with a turnip in
one hand and a beer stein in the other. And yes this is OT .......
Thanks
 Dale


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:44:52 -0500
From: "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Nats photos
Message-ID: <200008112345.QAA17789@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

Here's a site with the Nats winners:

http://www.dana-nield.com/

It's not straight forward, but you'll figure it out. :-)


Matt Bittner



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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:06:17 -0400
From: "Michael S. Alvarado" <sm5192@bellatlantic.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Cook-up
Message-ID: <399494F8.9359CB30@bellatlantic.net>

Cam,

Speaking of finishing your Albatros, whats the propects of getting together this weekend so I can get
that those lozengw camo decals to you?

Alvie

cameron rile wrote:

> John,
>
> >what's a cook-up?
>
> The list is currently conducting a;
>
>  Great Albatros Model Cook-Up
>
>   http://members.xoom.com/OTprojects/index.html
>
> It was an all-inclusive project in part to get everyone building, in part to show off the variety in
> a WWI subject as well as have fun swapping methods, tricks, tips and photos of finished
> models. The list chose the Albatros to start with as it was an airplane with many differant
> marks, markings and kits in all scales.
>
> The cook-up has become something other than just a build page. List members have
> contributed in an amazing number of ways, from Bob Pearson's profiles, Diego's cartoons,
> Marks virtual CAD-CAM build up of an Albatros, kit reviews, build articles to finished Albatros
> kits. The list has shown its creativity in many areas through the build-up.
>
> Though as Bob Laskodi mentioned there are so far under ten finished pledged build-ups thus
> far :) and the end of September deadline is looming!!! I can understand those that have
> finished champing at the bit to another build-up, but I 'aint doing no Nieuport or Sopwith page
> 'til this build up be finished. :)
>
> cam
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:21:26 EDT
From: Zulis@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Strange Request
Message-ID: <e0.8662be1.26c5f286@aol.com>


<< It consists of a robed priest with a turnip in
 one hand and a beer stein in the other. And yes this is OT ....... >>

Sounds like Ernest to me....  minus the priest part, of course....  :-)

DZ

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:32:37 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Bill Bacon award
Message-ID: <002501c003f5$7aa3cd40$4b8daec7@com>


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Bill Bacon award


>
>
> > What about something aloong the lines of a most helpful, cooperative
.....
> > something like a "nice guy" award. Wouldn't this be more appropriate?
> > Just my $.02
> > Dale
>
> That works for me .. and it describes Bill perfectly
>
> Bob

Hear Hear!


DB


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:34:01 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Cook-up
Message-ID: <002601c003f5$7b872860$4b8daec7@com>


----- Original Message -----
From: "cameron rile" <cameron@prontomail.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Cook-up


> John,
>
> >what's a cook-up?
>
> The list is currently conducting a;
>
>  Great Albatros Model Cook-Up
>
>   http://members.xoom.com/OTprojects/index.html
>
> It was an all-inclusive project in part to get everyone building, in part
to show off the variety in
> a WWI subject as well as have fun swapping methods, tricks, tips and
photos of finished
> models. The list chose the Albatros to start with as it was an airplane
with many differant
> marks, markings and kits in all scales.
>
> The cook-up has become something other than just a build page. List
members have
> contributed in an amazing number of ways, from Bob Pearson's profiles,
Diego's cartoons,
> Marks virtual CAD-CAM build up of an Albatros, kit reviews, build articles
to finished Albatros
> kits. The list has shown its creativity in many areas through the
build-up.
>
> Though as Bob Laskodi mentioned there are so far under ten finished
pledged build-ups thus
> far :) and the end of September deadline is looming!!! I can understand
those that have
> finished champing at the bit to another build-up, but I 'aint doing no
Nieuport or Sopwith page
> 'til this build up be finished. :)
>
>
>
>
> cam
>
Hey Cam,

    How many other un-pledged Albatri have you gotten?


DB


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:37:19 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Flattening Future
Message-ID: <002701c003f5$7c68fce0$4b8daec7@com>

Hi John,

    To get a nice semi-gloss or flat from Future, I usually add Aeromaster
acrylic flat.  However, here's an idea:  try a drop of white glue.  It might
give you enough of a flt effect.  Don't add water - if you need to thin it,
add Windex or a window cleaner.  I'll try it myself tonight, but it's just
so nutty, it'll probably work!



DB

----- Original Message -----
From: <John_Impenna@hyperion.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 4:25 PM
Subject: Flattening Future


>
>
> Hi All,
> Has anyone tried anything other than Tamiya Flat Base to flatten Future?
Any
> help is appreciated as I just ran out of Flat Base!!! and want to try to
finish
> my DV this weekend!!
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:38:01 -0500
From: Marc Flake <mflake@airmail.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Roden D VI
Message-ID: <39949C69.143@airmail.net>

Update on the Fokker D VI I'm building.  Interplane struts fit fine. 
But I couldn't tell you if the cabanes fit ok as I couldn't find the
tiny little holes for the struts once I'd covered them up with lozenge. 
I found the holes for the interplane struts just fine, but the cabane
locators just disappeared.

Something I should mention is that the front part of the turtle deck
(probably not the right term -- it's the top part of the fuselage from
the cockpit forward) was too long by about 4 mm.  I put the rear turtle
deck on first, then tried to fit the forward part on.  I clipped it off
where it hung out over the bow, er, firewall.  It's possible that this
would have made the fuselage deeper.

Landing gear struts were delicate, but I couldn't find the locator holes
for these either.  Not sure they were there in the first place.

The worst problem I had was removing struts from the sprue.  These are
delicate little guys. I broke the interior struts on the sprue trying to
remove them with sprue cutters.  I sawed away the interplane struts, but
managed to break one leg of an "N" in the process of bending the other
leg.  I scratched an "N" to replace it.

She's a right purty little plane.  I'm takin' 'er down to the Fort Worth
Show tomorrow.  We'll see how she does.

Marc

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