WWI Digest 2508 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Lance's HB W.12 by "Nigel Rayner" 2) BE2 Download by "Steve Bucher" 3) BE2 download by "Steve Bucher" 4) RE: D.H.2 logos by Shane Weier 5) Blowing my own horn - D.H.2 pics by "DAVID BURKE" 6) To Subscribe or not to Subscribe..That is the question??? by pugs99@att.net 7) [OT] Dornier Do335 Book by Sean Bayan Schoonmaker 8) Bob's CD by "Dale Beamish" 9) Lance's W.12 and Judging by pugs99@att.net 10) Re: Lance's W 12 by Marc Flake 11) Motors & Engines by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 12) Re: Lance's W.12 and Judging by huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) 13) A-H Albatros help needed by smperry@mindspring.com 14) Re: Lance's W 12 by "DAVID BURKE" 15) Re: Motors & Engines by Dave Watts 16) Re: Lance's W 12 by Albatrosdv@aol.com 17) Re: Lance's W 12 by Lyle Lamboley 18) Re: Missing decals was: Latest IM is WONDERFUL! by "Courtney Allen" 19) web site update by Dennis Ugulano 20) Here's a golden opportunity... by Ernest Thomas 21) Lance's W-12 by Ernest Thomas 22) Re: Here's a golden opportunity... by Albatrosdv@aol.com 23) Halberstadt Fighters by Albatrosdv@aol.com 24) Re: BE2 download by Witold Kozakiewicz 25) Re: Blowing my own horn - D.H.2 pics by Witold Kozakiewicz 26) Some brilliant things recently by David Solosy 27) RE: Halberstadt Fighters by "dfernet0" 28) RE: web site update by "dfernet0" 29) IM neglect by "Matt Bittner" 30) Tire Color Question by jhudson@hcsmail.com 31) Re: Some brilliant things recently by Mark Miller 32) Re: Tire Color Question by smperry@mindspring.com 33) Re: IM neglect by "Richard Eaton" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:29:47 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: Lance's HB W.12 Message-ID: <000601bffcd1$2dc65400$b904883e@w1o0t3> I just wanted to say many congratulations to Lance on a *fantastic* model - the W 12 is awesome! Those judges were sadly misguided in passing you over, but you have the satisfaction of knowing it's a truly great model. Love all the interior shots in IM - you're going to infect me with AMS - quick nurse, the screens..... Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:50:44 -0400 From: "Steve Bucher" To: Subject: BE2 Download Message-ID: <001701bffcd4$18004380$bee49ed1@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BFFCB2.901C1140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I uploaded a Grayscale 1/72nd scale version of the BE2a kit on my = site. Will a couple of you try downloading it and let me know if you = have problems. Never worked too much with .zip uploads before.=20 Thanks, Steve ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BFFCB2.901C1140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi, I uploaded a Grayscale 1/72nd scale version of = the BE2a=20 kit on my site. Will a couple of you try downloading it and let me know = if you=20 have problems. Never worked too much with .zip uploads before. =

Thanks, = Steve

------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BFFCB2.901C1140-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:53:36 -0400 From: "Steve Bucher" To: Subject: BE2 download Message-ID: <001d01bffcd4$7eaa0080$bee49ed1@oemcomputer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BFFCB2.F6C754E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I guess you need the URL! http://ww1cardmodels.bizland.com/steve.html Sorry, Steve ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BFFCB2.F6C754E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I guess you need the URL! http://ww1cardmodels= .bizland.com/steve.html

Sorry, = Steve

------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BFFCB2.F6C754E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:47:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: D.H.2 logos Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D466@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> David says: > DH2 Datafile, page34. I've just made decals of these in 1/28 > scale and they > are just a few millimetres across. So, in 1/48 they could be > painted on. Nah, that won't work. Yours are DH5 decals aren't they ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:00:03 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Blowing my own horn - D.H.2 pics Message-ID: <003401bffcd5$66eb6640$7597aec7@com> Well Guys, The benevolent Lord Bittner has seen fit to add some pics of my D.H.2 under construction. Included are pics of the wicker seat and the prop. Enjoy! DB http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Burke/index.html will take you right to 'em! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:13:21 +0000 From: pugs99@att.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: To Subscribe or not to Subscribe..That is the question??? Message-ID: <20000802231322.ZETW14052.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hi All, I have been contemplating subscribing to some(all???) of the OT pubs out there and I was wondering what the rest of you subscribe to and like. Windsock; worth the $40+ a year as well as the extra reading time??? C&C or Over the Front? WWI Aero? I am looking mostly for OT reference as well as some history, For instance, I will probably subscribe to either C&C or OTF but not both. I've heard pros and cons about Windsock and have heard that you should stick to the Datafiles.. Time and money are precious. More so time, so any opinions are most welcome. Happy Modeling, John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:36:12 -0700 From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: [OT] Dornier Do335 Book Message-ID: I know that this is somewhat off base, but I find myself with an extra book. I thought I'd see if anyone here wanted it before I sell it elsewhere. Schiffer Military History / Aviation History Dornier Do 335 "Pfeil" Contact me off-list if interested, Schoon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:39:38 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: "List" Subject: Bob's CD Message-ID: <003401bffcdb$1f570fe0$1f2bb8a1@darcy> O.K. everyone that hasn't signed up for one of these ...... run don't walk to: bpearson@rapidnet.net and get one! I received my copy yesterday and it is FANTASTIC! The CD is very well organized and the artwork is .... well .... you all know Bob's stuff! The CD well .... I need more kits! And the possibilities for the future Sopwith Camel from Eduard ..... Well dreams are best left unmentioned. Get one ... you won't be disappointed! FANTASTIC work Bob! Dale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:41:16 +0000 From: pugs99@att.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Lance's W.12 and Judging Message-ID: <20000802234116.ZTOM9297.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hi All, I have read with interest the thread on IPMS judging and haven't commented, until now, because I hesitate to criticize volunteers who work hard to do a thankless job. But after seeing Lance's W.12, I have to say that I am starting to believe what I have been reading and hearing over the years, particularly the comments regarding local "favortism" and the "IPMS Style". Missing the ball on this one particular model was pretty bad and should require eye tests as a minimum for judges!!!! This is why I don't "pothunt". Dicta Ira is what modeling should be about. Happy Modeling! John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:38:30 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lance's W 12 Message-ID: <3988BF06.4BD9@airmail.net> As we were all packing up our models at the Nationals, someone remarked that Lance's W 12 was severely handicapped by it's placement on the table. I didn't realize just how bad his placement was until I read the IM piece. Lance's masterpiece was on the back row, with a curtain along the right side, a Sopwith Triplane close up on the left side and great, HUGE Tamiya Swoardfish smack in front of it. There was no way for me to get down and really look at this magnificent piece of workmanship. I didn't realize how great it is, until I looked at the IM pictures. That 1/48 table was awfully crowded. I'm wondering if that led to the judges overlooking Lance's model. I got a good look at the Tamiya and it doesn't come anywhere near matching up to Lance's model. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:56:07 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Motors & Engines Message-ID: <000801bffce5$9c8845b0$463c183f@cyrixp166> Motors are electomotive. Engines are thermodynamic. Regards, Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 19:41:47 -0500 From: huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lance's W.12 and Judging Message-ID: >Hi All, >I have read with interest the thread on IPMS judging and >haven't commented, until now, because I hesitate to >criticize volunteers who work hard to do a thankless job. >But after seeing Lance's W.12, I have to say that I am >starting to believe what I have been reading and hearing >over the years, particularly the comments regarding local >"favortism" and the "IPMS Style". Missing the ball on >this one particular model was pretty bad and should >require eye tests as a minimum for judges!!!! This is why >I don't "pothunt". Dicta Ira is what modeling should be >about. > >Happy Modeling! > >John After seeing the pictures I will admit that the model does look to be a winner. I had a model in the category, there fore I did not look at the entries that close as I knew I would be used else where. So far, I have herd a lot of comments about the judging. Ranging from there blindness, their lack of subject knowledge and their inability to build models any longer so they have to judge now. What I have not seen are postings from anyone who talked to the judges for that category, they all signed the category marker and were available for comment after the awards. Did Lance talk to them? Did they give him any indications about what the other models had that was better than his, or what he did that took him out of the running. Could we hear the other side of this story also. All any one has done is blame the judges. Till we hear from them, I think we are beating a dead horse here, and insulting a group of people who did a thankless job many others don't want to do. In case you missed the point, all of the judges were model builders who enter the contests through the year, have had more than one year of national level judging experience behind them, and volunteered to do what a large number of modelers won't do. They all judge to the same standards, there is a minimum of 3 judges per category, a check judge who does a follow up to make sure a deserving model wasn't missed, and then the category head judge. I find it hard to believe that all of these people missed the mark here. I know that the system does work, as we had to explain to two other teams why we had disqualified a model in the category I judged. John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:36:26 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: A-H Albatros help needed Message-ID: <002c01bffceb$3dbbdfa0$f40956d1@default> I finally began my Cookup project, the Tom's Modelworks Albatros D.II as an A-H Albatros D.II. I need to know if the JaPo book has interior photos of the D.II and do those differ significantly from a German D.II D.III interior? TIA sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:37:18 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Lance's W 12 Message-ID: <002101bffceb$5ded2540$ae99aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Flake" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Lance's W 12 > As we were all packing up our models at the Nationals, someone remarked > that Lance's W 12 was severely handicapped by it's placement on the > table. I didn't realize just how bad his placement was until I read the > IM piece. > > Lance's masterpiece was on the back row, with a curtain along the right > side, a Sopwith Triplane close up on the left side and great, HUGE > Tamiya Swoardfish smack in front of it. There was no way for me to get > down and really look at this magnificent piece of workmanship. I didn't > realize how great it is, until I looked at the IM pictures. > > That 1/48 table was awfully crowded. I'm wondering if that led to the > judges overlooking Lance's model. I got a good look at the Tamiya and > it doesn't come anywhere near matching up to Lance's model. > > Marc Marc's point is well-made. His model was way in the back. My pics from the Nats show this. Wayyyy off in the corner. The tables were quite crowded, and I can see where this might have been bad for Lance's chances (that rhymes). Enough of the bashing. Things happened the way that they happened. Of course, Lance can bring it to Chicago, seeing as how it didn't win.... DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:22:18 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Motors & Engines Message-ID: <200008030149.e731nYw94451@ind.cioe.com> Cyg wrote; >Motors are electomotive. Engines are thermodynamic. I'm with you,......but I am in the habit of using the nomenclature of the period. Examples; Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft DMG (Mercedes) Daimler-Sechszylinder-Flugmotor Type D.IIIav. Hiero-Flugmotor Flugzeugmotor Bayerische Motoren Werke (B.M.W.) Maybe they misused the term "motor", or it is a glitch with the German language and their word structure. Certainly when speaking English, the proper terminology is engine, it's just from habit when I speak of German "motors". Best, Dave P.S. And I won't bring up the H.P. (HorsePower) vs P.S. vs. B.H.P. debate that was clarified by a gent with more physics learning than I have, and said it was a formula, regardless of who is measuring it, Germans, Brits, Yanks, or Vulcans. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:55:39 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lance's W 12 Message-ID: In a message dated 8/2/00 7:44:56 PM EST, mflake@airmail.net writes: << That 1/48 table was awfully crowded. I'm wondering if that led to the judges overlooking Lance's model. I got a good look at the Tamiya and it doesn't come anywhere near matching up to Lance's model. >> Model contests are like real estate: location! location! location! I well remember RK putting his 1/32 scratchbuilt B.E.2c at the back of the table for vacs/scratchbuilts. I would not be surprised if the judges didn't even see it (and this isn't a lead-in to "all judges are blind anyway"). FWIW, I've done a few pretty good S-fish myself this year, and I don't think there's a model of that kit could compare with Lance's model. Just on sheer craftsmanship, the Swordfish being nothing more than an assembly problem, it should have been ranked. I know for a fact that, once one gets past "basics first," judges I have worked with have given greater credence to a model more difficult to build. In fact, I know some people who are now of the opinion a good Tamiya model isn't necessarily a demonsration of anything past basic hand-eye coordination and ability to follow directions. (not that I don't enjoy building kits from that company, I do). This is another case of the "model dorks" demonstrating they exist. I definitely know that there was less "modeling skill" in all *four* Swordfish (including modified versions) I built than in *one* all-resin W.12. TC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:42:26 -0400 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lance's W 12 Message-ID: <20000802.224229.-361291.5.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> Lance, I just saw your work on the H-B and was truly impressed with not only your craftsmanship but also your attention to the smallest detail. For me, it was as if an original aeroplane had been shrunk down to that scale. I really feel, as has been mentioned today, that your model was not actually judged but ignored due to the volume of entries there. Only a moron would have been unimpressed by your work, I am certain. So, from your peers and those who aspire to better modeling, Bravo! Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:55:06 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: Missing decals was: Latest IM is WONDERFUL! Message-ID: <007501bffcfe$9d236ae0$e203480c@oemcomputer> Just as an adder, I purchased Tom's Modelworks photo etched set for the Koenig and received a set of the decal that Tom revived from ICM. Around $13 for the whole thing. I am not sure that he is able to supply the same to everyone. Courtney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Subrt" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 12:10 PM Subject: RE: Missing decals was: Latest IM is WONDERFUL! > No one Koenig kit I've seen here (Czech Republic) has decals. OTOH kit > instructions clearly show circular markings on the top of turrets, probably > the same Bob Pearson describes and has no use for in his Grosser Kurfuerst > IM article. > > ---------- > Od: Mike Dicianna[SMTP:mikedc@dnc.net] > Odesl�no: 1. srpna 2000 15:27 > Komu: Multiple recipients of list > P�edm�t: Latest IM is WONDERFUL! > > > On reviewing the article, I realized that my kit was missing > one very important item....the decal sheet. > > Has anyone had any luck getting replacement parts from > these companies? I need to get a sheet sent to me to > complete this kit. I suppose there is an address in the > instructions somewhere, have not dug it out to look. > Does ICM have an email address? A website? > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 00:27:23 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: web site update Message-ID: <200008030027_MC2-AE70-57EA@compuserve.com> Everyone, For those who are interested, the web site has been updated with a list of the 102 OT planes in my collection. It's under Collection List in the main directory. The Albatros D.IV needs only rigging and a gloss coat and it is complete. To all of the builders this month in IM, excellent work. The W12 is beyond anything I will ever build. I especially like the Fokker D.VI because it was in the correct scale. :-) Good work guys. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 8/2/00 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:28:34 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: The List Subject: Here's a golden opportunity... Message-ID: <3988F4F2.F61817FB@bellsouth.net> Howdy Listee's, Recently we had a short, but enjoyable thread about the Aussie WWI vet carrying the torch for a stretch. A few guys lamented the fact that they didn't try to meet their local WWI vets when they had a chance. This was just the nudge I needed to quit putting it off and reestablish contact with my local hero, Squadron Leader Doug Tidy MA RAF (ret) no.74 sq. I met Doug about 7 years ago when I happened to be drinking in the bar of a local chinese restaurant where he was the bartender. The China Rose immediately became my favorite watering hole and I could often be found there listening to Doug's tales of flying very ot Spitfires in the BoB. Alas, I got married and thus ended my bar life. I saw Doug less and less and hadn't talked to him in a few years. BUt Doug has been keeping himself busy and now owns a web site dedicated to the history of no.74 RAF. He also wrote a book on the same subject called 'I Fear No Man', which is back in print after 25 years. So here's a chance to meet a genuine Spit pilot who's more than willing to tell his story. He's a super nice guy, so don't be shy. Drop him a line. Here's the link; http://members.tripod.com/~dptidy/74sqna.html Dicta Ira! E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:00:43 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: The List Subject: Lance's W-12 Message-ID: <3988FC7B.897D6F72@bellsouth.net> Did someone at least send a link to the IM article to IPMS? E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:24:56 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Here's a golden opportunity... Message-ID: <69.898be3c.26ba5c28@aol.com> In a message dated 8/2/00 11:29:41 PM EST, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << http://members.tripod.com/~dptidy/74sqna.html >> Bookmarked it - thanks a bunch, E!! TC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:31:08 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Halberstadt Fighters Message-ID: Just a note for those who may have ordered the Passchendaele Halberstadt's, and have/will receive them in the near future: if you're like me you may have very little on these airplanes. Thanks to RK, I realized there is a very good article by Peter Grosz and A.E. Ferko in Air Enthusiast Quarterly, No. 14 - "Biplanes for the Fliegertruppe," that gives a good account of the development and operation of these airplanes. If you look through that issue, you might also find the reasons why I am still ticked off at the Tillamook Air Museum for the atrocity they committed against a certain Corsair, whose history is outlined in an article there titled "Back From The Graveyard." HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:47:33 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: BE2 download Message-ID: <39891585.22B48374@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> Hi Steve. Download OK, Zip OK, PDF OK, Model OK. I passed this link to polish modelers newsgroup. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:51:27 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blowing my own horn - D.H.2 pics Message-ID: <3989166F.62C6EEA0@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> Dave, fantastic. I'll wait with mine DH.2 till you finish yours and I'll use your pictures as references if you don't mind :-)). -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:33:04 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "WW1 List (E-mail)" Subject: Some brilliant things recently Message-ID: <56EBF0EF4A03D4118C6F00902776597F0DEF27@s26pss4.pssc.wa.gov.au> First, Lance's W.12.Truly stylish. Of course, we now expect this level of model every time from him. ;-) Next: Internet Modeler - highlights the talent on this list and is a nice little tonic for OT subjects that other publications, both e-zines and hard copy, seem to do their darndest to all but ignore. And it *is* loading quicker for me. Third: The typewriter eraser for BM surface grunge. Beauty in simplicity! Fourth: Mark Miller's virtual Albatros fuselage on the Albatros Cook Up page. Got any other aircraft Mark? Fifth: Camaraderie and good will on this list. � David S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:26:29 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Halberstadt Fighters Message-ID: <008301bffd35$4a420d40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Besides, you can check the Windsock Special on Halberstadt fighters and Jane's WW1 airplanes book. I've seen the Passchendaele D.II resin and the D.V fuselage master and they're beautiful. The only down side is that they're in the wrong scale! :-( Anyway, there's very few manufacturers that pay so much attention to detail and quality as John does to his products. So, if you're straddled and confused on the wrong road of 1/48 modelling you shouldn't resist the temptation of having these kits. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 3:03 AM Subject: Halberstadt Fighters > Just a note for those who may have ordered the Passchendaele Halberstadt's, > and have/will receive them in the near future: if you're like me you may > have very little on these airplanes. Thanks to RK, I realized there is a > very good article by Peter Grosz and A.E. Ferko in Air Enthusiast Quarterly, > No. 14 - "Biplanes for the Fliegertruppe," that gives a good account of the > development and operation of these airplanes. > > If you look through that issue, you might also find the reasons why I am > still ticked off at the Tillamook Air Museum for the atrocity they committed > against a certain Corsair, whose history is outlined in an article there > titled "Back From The Graveyard." > > HTH > > Tom Cleaver > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:38:46 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: web site update Message-ID: <00c301bffd37$b103ad20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Truly impressive! But now you left me compelled to see all those 102 models! There's only about 1/3 of your collection pictured on your site... BTW, excelent work in the hidro albatros and the skiing nieuport! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Ugulano To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 1:32 AM Subject: web site update > Everyone, > > For those who are interested, the web site has been updated with a > list of the 102 OT planes in my collection. It's under Collection List in > the main directory. > > The Albatros D.IV needs only rigging and a gloss coat and it is > complete. > > To all of the builders this month in IM, excellent work. The W12 > is beyond anything I will ever build. I especially like the Fokker D.VI > because it was in the correct scale. :-) Good work guys. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm > Page Revised 8/2/00 > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:06:34 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: IM neglect Message-ID: <200008031206.FAA08128@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I've been neglectful in expressing my thanks to all the other IM contributors. It is because of the rest of the contributor's - and the hard work put into it by the two, listee editors, that IM just keeps getting better and better. The only thing left - now that the WW1 content is there - is to get more small scale armor up on the site. Trust me...I for one am working on it. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:15:07 -0400 From: jhudson@hcsmail.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Tire Color Question Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000803081507.007cf2c0@hcsmail.com> Hello, I'm working on an Eduard Moraine Saulnier type L right now. The color sheet shows the tires having a kind of yellow color. What were these tires made of? I didn't see any color reference on the kit-provided sheet. What would be a good color or mix of colors to use for this? Thanks, Jim ------------------------------ Date: 3 Aug 2000 05:28:57 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Some brilliant things recently Message-ID: <20000803122857.22312.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 03 August 2000, David Solosy wrote: > > First, Lance's W.12.Truly stylish. Of course, we now expect this level of > model every time from him. ;-) > Next: Internet Modeler - highlights the talent on this list and is a nice > little tonic for OT subjects that other publications, both e-zines and hard > copy, seem to do their darndest to all but ignore. And it *is* loading > quicker for me. > Third: The typewriter eraser for BM surface grunge. Beauty in simplicity! > Fourth: Mark Miller's virtual Albatros fuselage on the Albatros Cook Up > page. Got any other aircraft Mark? > Fifth: Camaraderie and good will on this list. > � > David S David Besides the Se5 on allan's site - not much. well unless you count the ... um ... er .. P51D on which I'm about 1/2 through the external surfaces - But ww2 ac are far more complicated than anything coming out of ww1. The internal stuff would require an enormous effort. I did go as far as writing NASM for a list of available plans on the Merlin. and I have started a N17 but haven't made much progress yet Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:40:27 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Tire Color Question Message-ID: <003201bffd48$013b4f40$9b0156d1@default> > Hello, > > I'm working on an Eduard Moraine Saulnier type L right now. The > color sheet shows the tires having a kind of yellow color. What were > these tires made of? > > I didn't see any color reference on the kit-provided sheet. What > would be a good color or mix of colors to use for this? > > Thanks, > Jim Jim: Early WWI tyres were made of natural rubber. Kind of a tanish color. Depending on the source & manufacturer it ranged from a pinkisk tan to a grayish tan. This color soon dirtied and stained to a darker color with use on damp grass fields. Just don't paint them black as they didn't add the lampblack to aircraft tyres at the time. Late war German tyres out of synthetic rubber tend to appear a bit lighter/ grayer than natural rubber ones. hth sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:48:54 -0500 From: "Richard Eaton" To: Subject: Re: IM neglect Message-ID: <000d01bffd49$304daca0$ac191b18@austin.rr.com> Well said, Matt, I finally got around to going through things. What a strong article guys! Great job on the VI Matt. Regards, and working naval issues, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 7:10 AM Subject: IM neglect > I've been neglectful in expressing my thanks to all the other IM > contributors. It is because of the rest of the contributor's - and the > hard work put into it by the two, listee editors, that IM just keeps > getting better and better. The only thing left - now that the WW1 > content is there - is to get more small scale armor up on the site. > Trust me...I for one am working on it. ;-) > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2508 **********************