WWI Digest 2507 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Drawings for Clerget and Le Rhone Engines by Mark Miller 2) Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? by Ernest Thomas 3) Re: Lance's W.12 by Mark Miller 4) Re: 1/28 Fokker D-VII fixes?? by KarrArt@aol.com 5) Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? by "DAVID BURKE" 6) Re: Lance's W.12 by "DAVID BURKE" 7) Re: August Internet Modeler by "Len Smith" 8) Re: Blue Max Surface Grunge by "DAVID BURKE" 9) Re: Blue Max Surface Grunge by Ernest Thomas 10) Re: Blue Max Surface Grunge by "DAVID BURKE" 11) Re: August Internet Modeler by Albatrosdv@aol.com 12) Re: Blue Max Surface Grunge by Albatrosdv@aol.com 13) Trust me on this one by Albatrosdv@aol.com 14) Re: Lance's W.12 by "Len Smith" 15) Re: D.H.2 logos by "D Charles" 16) Excellent new periodicals - IM & CCI by "Sandy Adam" 17) Re: Lance's W.12 by "Lance Krieg" 18) Re: D.H.2 logos by "Lance Krieg" 19) New images by "Matt Bittner" 20) Hermann Goering's Dr.I by "Lance Krieg" 21) Re: Lance's W.12 by "Limon3" 22) Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? by Dave Watts 23) RE: August Internet Modeler by Ivan Subrt 24) RE: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? by "dfernet0" 25) RE: Missing decals was: Latest IM is WONDERFUL! by Ivan Subrt 26) Re: Excellent new periodicals - IM & CCI by "Andy Kemp" 27) Update by "Matt Bittner" 28) Re: Woodman Book by Peter Leonard 29) Re: Lance's W.12 by "Len Smith" 30) Re: 1/28 Fokker D-VII fixes?? - Mike's rib tape question by Mike Kavanaugh 31) Are hotmail people out?? by "Candice Uhlir" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 Aug 2000 21:36:07 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Drawings for Clerget and Le Rhone Engines Message-ID: <20000802043607.4699.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Tue, 01 August 2000, "Ken Acosta" wrote: > > Thanks for the steer. I'll take a look. > Ken > > >>> K129000@aol.com 08/01/00 10:29AM >>> > In a message dated 00-08-01 08:28:11 EDT, you write: > > << > All- > > Does anyone have a good source for accurate technical drawings of either > the Clerget or Le Rhone engines used by the Avro 504? > > TIA- > > Ken >> > > Janes fighting aircraft of WW1. I don't remember 100% of what they had. In > the back of the book there is information and pictures of various engines. > > K-129 Ken I took a look at the Jane's book and it doesn't offer much in the way of technical drawings on the Clerget. There are some poorly reproduced plan views of the 140 hp version but the listing on the 504k says that it used the 110 or 130 hp versions. (or the 100hp Gnome or 110 Le Rhone ) IMHO the wylam drawings are your best bet. The plans are clear and concise, and include all neccessary dimensions. I know it can be scary using Wylam's drawings considering how fictional yet convincing they can be, but I think these drawings look pretty good. You can find them in the air age book Scale Airplane Drawings Volume 1. I've got a Minicraft/hasegawa kit of the Clerget 9b (130 hp) in 1/8 scale. I figure one of these days I'd build something around it. btw - I saw the repro 504k at Rhinebeck a couple weeks ago. I was amazed at how quickly the thing got off the ground. It just seemed to roll for a couple of seconds then float away. Must be the first VSTOL plane ever. Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 23:38:28 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? Message-ID: <3987A5C4.D750BA56@bellsouth.net> Dave, Fascinating bit of history. > 1960? Rosey Head purchased the motor along with other Mercedes motors in > Louisiana being used as Sugar Cane plantation irrigation water pumps. Should I start haunting the plantations in search of more of these puppies? E. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Aug 2000 21:53:30 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Lance's W.12 Message-ID: <20000802045330.5468.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Tue, 01 August 2000, "Matt Bittner" wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:36:00 -0400 (EDT), Graham Hunter wrote: > > > Lance, I just saw your beautiful creation over at internetmodeler. Man what > > a fine peice of modelling. A true show stopper. > > The Nats judges were truly blind. > > > Matt Bittner I must agree I'm always impressed by the models at internetmodeler but Lance's W.12 really made me stop and stare. I know nothing about IPMS or judging or any modeling competition at all - but I do know that this model fits my "style" or at least what I'd like it to be. Nice work! Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:06:30 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/28 Fokker D-VII fixes?? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/1/00 9:01:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << << What I once thought was a goofy theory- Udet's merely holding a book or some papers that look like stripes, I'm convinced that's what it is in the shot. >> Oh boy, here we go again, once more into the breach, Ferdinand!! If those are something he is holding, or in his pocket, where is the motion in his hand, the wear in the sleeve or the movement in the tunic?????? TC >> That's what got me this time. Whenever I had seen this photo published before, it was always a small fuzzy version. The one in the Datafile special with Ferko's scribblings and geometry layed over it was published almost half page, and the book or whatever it seems to be nestles in quite nicely- I could finally see how it fit, but what really got me was plotting the "stripe" showed that whatever it was, it wasn't laid straight up the turtle- it was neither on the turtle nor straight. It's another one of those cases that shows the difficulties and dangers of working from stuff in books/magazines- the same photo being published in many sources, at many sizes and resolutions- I've seen this photo for decades, but never as large as the Datafile Special. RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:16:39 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? Message-ID: <003c01bffc40$d8332440$d082aec7@com> Shit, Y' never know what you can find in Louisiana!! Pardon my French. DB Who bought a book recently by Jerry Crandall on an ot subject called 'Yellow 10'. The subject is one of the rarest of Luftwaffe fighters: a FW D-13. Where did he discover it? In a lot behind a house in Atlanta!!! Along with a Bf-109 G-10! The thing is, if a motor keeps running, it will probably be adapted to some use. I wonder what kind of engine powers the Algeirs ferry? DB again ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Thomas" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:43 PM Subject: Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? > Dave, > Fascinating bit of history. > > > 1960? Rosey Head purchased the motor along with other Mercedes motors in > > Louisiana being used as Sugar Cane plantation irrigation water pumps. > > Should I start haunting the plantations in search of more of these > puppies? > E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:22:14 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Lance's W.12 Message-ID: <004a01bffc41$9f584820$d082aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Miller" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:57 PM Subject: Re: Lance's W.12 > On Tue, 01 August 2000, "Matt Bittner" wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:36:00 -0400 (EDT), Graham Hunter wrote: > > > > > Lance, I just saw your beautiful creation over at internetmodeler. Man what > > > a fine peice of modelling. A true show stopper. > > > > The Nats judges were truly blind. > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > I must agree > I'm always impressed by the models at internetmodeler but Lance's W.12 really made me stop and stare. > I know nothing about IPMS or judging or any modeling competition at all - but I do know that this model fits my "style" or at least what I'd like it to be. > Nice work! > > Mark > Nice to know that I wasn't blind. Lance's model was truly brilliant. I would have hated to be the judge looking at his stuff and Paul Howard's entries! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:25:16 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <000601bffc41$c7ac60e0$195c08c3@mesh> Greetings, I agree with D about the content, excellent, but as for loading faster than before, not so sure. It took me 20 minutes to load the editorial, the report on the Nats and two reviews, that's perishing slow by my reckoning. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: dfernet0 To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:47 AM Subject: RE: August Internet Modeler > Great issue, as usual! > The page design has changed also, right? It downloads faster than before, > IMHO. Congratulations to all list members who wrote in this issue, your work > is truly inspiring. > D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Pearson > > Greetings all, > > The August Internet Modeler is now live ... > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 00:25:53 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Blue Max Surface Grunge Message-ID: <006201bffc42$256859a0$d082aec7@com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Thomas" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Blue Max Surface Grunge > > > "P. Howard" wrote: > > > If anyone besides myself cares,I'll pass the info > > along. > > Gee, I'm always interested in a new technique. Especially from Nats > winners. > E. How about from Nats entrants? ;-p DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 00:40:21 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max Surface Grunge Message-ID: <3987B445.FC74609D@bellsouth.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > How about from Nats entrants? ;-p I hope to be one of those some day. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 01:01:55 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Blue Max Surface Grunge Message-ID: <000901bffc47$2cf69ba0$1787aec7@com> Gimme a break! You're a Nats winner, so quit yer cryin! DB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Thomas" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 12:44 AM Subject: Re: Blue Max Surface Grunge > > > DAVID BURKE wrote: > > > How about from Nats entrants? ;-p > > I hope to be one of those some day. > E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:17:09 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <18.5ef6af.26b916e5@aol.com> In a message dated 8/2/00 0:23:31 AM EST, lensmith@clara.net writes: << I agree with D about the content, excellent, but as for loading faster than before, not so sure. It took me 20 minutes to load the editorial, the report on the Nats and two reviews, that's perishing slow by my reckoning. Regards Len. >> Because they publish once a month, the first 4-5 days are slow because of the traffic. Go there this Saturday and you'll zip around like you're flying an f-1-something thingie. TC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:18:05 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max Surface Grunge Message-ID: In a message dated 8/2/00 0:27:39 AM EST, dora9@sprynet.com writes: << How about from Nats entrants? ;-p DB >> Only those whose seats weren't modified by repeated pinching. :-) TC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 02:35:55 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Trust me on this one Message-ID: Hey all: One of the privileges I receive for the stoop labor I do in the vineyard I work in is, the lords of the manor occasionally allow the fieldhands to see the results of the work before the hoi polloi. Just got back from seein "Space Cowboys" at Warner Brothers. You know I hare 99 out of every hundred movies Hollywierd dumps on you. Well, I *love* this one. Trust me, you will too! What's not to like: Clint Eastwood directs and proves that Auld Phartz can handle state-of-the-art SFX bette than Michael (Mr. Antichrist) Bay on his best day ever. And it's got Clint, Tommy Lee Jones, Donald Sutherland and James Garner doing all their trademark shtick in a totally cool way. Even those of you in the dumped-on demographic of this movie will enjoy it (at least those of you smart enough to be here to read this). This is the first movie this year that I wanted to see based on the hype that lived up to the hype. I'm going to go "vote for it" this Friday as a "hot body" who gives it the ultimate vote: my money. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:48:59 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Lance's W.12 Message-ID: <000601bffc4e$355d0340$1c5808c3@mesh> Greetings, Out of morbid curiousity (I may have mentioned before that I do not 'like' German planes) I had a look at the write up of this one on Internet Modeler, following the furore, wailings, gnashing of teeth and cries of 'We wuz robbed'. One of the prime rules of competitions is that the entry must be solely the work of the entrant, and obviously the Judges were of the opinion that no ONE man could have the necessary skills, patience and plain ability to create such a masterpiece and so ignored it. QED. Lance, if I owned a hat I would raise it to you all, my sincere congratulations. Regards Len. PS. I would love to see what you could do with a 'respectable' plane ! :-))) lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:37:57 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: D.H.2 logos Message-ID: <007e01bffc6d$d1058d20$362bd7d2@charls> DB, DH2 Datafile, page34. I've just made decals of these in 1/28 scale and they are just a few millimetres across. So, in 1/48 they could be painted on. David >I realize that all >of the struts have a logo on them. What is the logo, and does anyone have a >good image of it, or can you point me to where there is a drawing of it? >DB > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:24:20 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Excellent new periodicals - IM & CCI Message-ID: <005501bffc74$68c65ee0$38e8b094@sandyada> Congrats on the latest IM to Bob, Chris and all contributors - beautiful HB Lance, nice Roland Bob and cracking little Fokker, Matt. After the disappointment of the new Windsock, I was delighted to find that the latest C&CI is one of the best for a long time (even if issue 2 has only now been released at the very end of July) 27 page article on 28Sqdn with stacks of new pics, followed by an interesting 6 page piece on Salonika ops then 17 pages of pics, roster and combat log for Royal Prussian Jastas 30 & 14. More issues like this please. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:49:11 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Lance's W.12 Message-ID: Thanks, all, for the kind words. Len wonders how a "proper plane" might look; after my disappointment in Dallas, I threatened Paul Howard I'd try to catch up to him with a Lone Star Felixstowe. As soon as my Datafile drifts over to the New World, I'll compare the kit to the drawings. If I start right away, maybe I can have the thing done in four or five years... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:57:57 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: D.H.2 logos Message-ID: Dave asks: " What is the logo, and does anyone have a good image of it, or can you point me to where there is a drawing of it?" I assume that were talking about the AIRCO logo, which ought to be in the Albatros publication on British finishing practices. My library is torn down while I (continue to) remodel the room... anyone have the book handy? The logos are available in decal form (1/48) from Americal Gryphon on sheets 165 & 166. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 09:06:36 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: New images Message-ID: <200008021406.HAA13634@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I just uploaded two new images of Witold's Fokker D.VI. Well done Witold!! Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 09:10:13 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Hermann Goering's Dr.I Message-ID: Ken was chasing down pictures of this machine... Over the Front, Volume 10, Number 3 has a lengthy discourse on Herr Goering's First War career, including profiles of his planes as researched by Greg Van Wyngarden. Dr.I 206/17 is included as it appeared in May, 1918. If you don't have the magazine, I can provide a detailed written description off-list. HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:11:52 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Lance's W.12 Message-ID: <005401bffc9c$5fb294e0$78bf113f@f4w2s5> Lance, I'd like to add my 2 centavos, the W12 is a tour de force, plain and simple. It gives us all a rapidly moving target. I'm not a judge of anything but good results, I don't compete, just model for my own satisfaction, but on rare occasions, I'm proud of my work. Looking at what is out there, from experts such as yourself, it gives me much to think about as I work on my own models. Gabe -----Original Message----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 6:52 AM Subject: Re: Lance's W.12 >Thanks, all, for the kind words. > >Len wonders how a "proper plane" might look; after my disappointment in Dallas, I threatened Paul Howard I'd try to catch up to him with a Lone Star Felixstowe. > >As soon as my Datafile drifts over to the New World, I'll compare the kit to the drawings. > >If I start right away, maybe I can have the thing done in four or five years... > >Lance > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:15:35 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? Message-ID: <200008021839.e72IdAw68613@ind.cioe.com> Ernest wrote; >Fascinating bit of history. I am still working on finding out how the motor got here to the states. So far, examination of interred US held aircraft, has not shown the motor listed with a Fokker D.VII. This may make sense, since the motor was installed in such an early built D.VII, it most likely would've been war weary and decrepit by the time it would have been turned over to the allies and of very little interest to be brought back for evaluation. Most of the D.VIIs brought back were the latest, newest built D.VIIs, some having never see any action at all. It may be that the motor first saw service with a D.VII, then was later rebuilt and reinstalled into another type of aircraft, and possibly that aircraft was captured and brought back for evaluation, and the motor later removed and sold as surplus. I'll have to broaden the scope of my search. It's a saga. >> 1960? Rosey Head purchased the motor along with other Mercedes motors in Louisiana being used as Sugar Cane plantation irrigation water pumps. >Should I start haunting the plantations in search of more of these puppies? Not such a crazy idea. The last few Mercedes motors I have heard of turning up were in Norway being used as boat motors and propeller driven "snow buggies". Since the water cooled Mercedes, Hissos, etc. lend themselves so well for use as stationary power plants, they were generally ran into the ground and discarded, contributing to their scarcity. The rotaries, on the other hand, were immediately outdated technology after the war. Also they did not lend themselves very well to being used as stationary power plants, or even as cheap aircraft engines. Best, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:53:11 +0200 From: Ivan Subrt To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: August Internet Modeler Message-ID: <01BFFCC3.E912AA00@plzena-101.vol.cz> Len, since the change of IM layout (animated headline) I had problems to download IM pages too, as I had to wait about 5 minutes for them to appear. In the end of downloading I saw a notice that I can download Macromedia Flash programme and I repeatedly refused it as I was afraid of some virus problems. Now I recall Shane Weier's note several months ago on IM sending some unsolicited data to his computer, too. Last month I decided to try to download Flash at my workplace, where we have better antivirus software and since that day I download IM pages (including above mentioned animated headline) during several seconds without any harm to my computer. The other way without downloading Flash is to hit Stop button of your browser TWICE after several seconds of downloading - after the first hit you would see the text of the page, after the second one your browser would stop to attempt to download headline data. HTH Cheers! Ivan Subrt http://www.czechia.com/silverbird "The air is our sea." Czech proverb ---------- Od: Len Smith[SMTP:lensmith@clara.net] Odesláno: 2. srpna 2000 7:25 Komu: Multiple recipients of list Předmět: Re: August Internet Modeler Greetings, I agree with D about the content, excellent, but as for loading faster than before, not so sure. It took me 20 minutes to load the editorial, the report on the Nats and two reviews, that's perishing slow by my reckoning. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: dfernet0 To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 11:47 AM Subject: RE: August Internet Modeler > Great issue, as usual! > The page design has changed also, right? It downloads faster than before, > IMHO. Congratulations to all list members who wrote in this issue, your work > is truly inspiring. > D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Pearson > > Greetings all, > > The August Internet Modeler is now live ... > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:52:39 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? Message-ID: <022b01bffcb2$d5496b00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dave wrote >Since the water cooled Mercedes, Hissos, etc. lend > themselves so well for use as stationary power plants, they were generally > ran into the ground and discarded, contributing to their scarcity. Interesting... my own high schoool has a small "museum" of engines, amongst Lerhones and Spas and other ancient and delicate technologies. They are pretty advanced even for today standards and have featured excellent perfomances many years after being passed out from the original owners. Some of the engines in my school were part of the batch of airplanes brought to Argentina in 1919. As an aside, the school has its own electrical powerplant, powered by a german diesel engine originally used to re-charge the batteries of a german U-boot! D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:08:10 +0200 From: Ivan Subrt To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Missing decals was: Latest IM is WONDERFUL! Message-ID: <01BFFCC5.C71D3440@plzena-101.vol.cz> No one Koenig kit I've seen here (Czech Republic) has decals. OTOH kit instructions clearly show circular markings on the top of turrets, probably the same Bob Pearson describes and has no use for in his Grosser Kurfuerst IM article. ---------- Od: Mike Dicianna[SMTP:mikedc@dnc.net] Odesláno: 1. srpna 2000 15:27 Komu: Multiple recipients of list Předmět: Latest IM is WONDERFUL! On reviewing the article, I realized that my kit was missing one very important item....the decal sheet. Has anyone had any luck getting replacement parts from these companies? I need to get a sheet sent to me to complete this kit. I suppose there is an address in the instructions somewhere, have not dug it out to look. Does ICM have an email address? A website? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:57:58 +0100 From: "Andy Kemp" To: Subject: Re: Excellent new periodicals - IM & CCI Message-ID: <011201bffc8f$01d93c00$a41b6cd5@5120> hi Sandy Glad you like the latest CCI. The 28 Sqn article is a good 'un - lots of lovely photos from Frank Cheesman that I've never seen before. Sad it's Don Neate's last contribution :-( Sorry it was late - cock-up on the labelling front. However 31/3 should be on time - early September. For those amongst us who are "overseas" or not members, check out the contents on the web site: http://www.crossandcockade.com/article.htm Cheers! Andy K > After the disappointment of the new Windsock, I was delighted to find that > the latest C&CI is one of the best for a long time (even if issue 2 has only > now been released at the very end of July) > 27 page article on 28Sqdn with stacks of new pics, followed by an > interesting 6 page piece on Salonika ops then 17 pages of pics, roster and > combat log for Royal Prussian Jastas 30 & 14. > More issues like this please. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:29:23 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Update Message-ID: <200008022029.NAA19785@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Just added DB's in-progress DH2 images. Now to get back to "real" work... Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:07:57 +0100 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Woodman Book Message-ID: <39888DAC.90B3E6EA@cwcom.net> Nexus publications plan an updated re-print next year. They presently have one of my mint copies for use as a master as there was none on file (!) Hopefully thet'll get me a freebie. cheers m'dears Peter L just a dumb modeler Ken Acosta wrote: > All- > Where might I obtain a copy of the Harry Woodman book that I've seen referred to so often on this list? Not the Ilya book, but rather the "Plasticard" book. Is it still in print? > TIA- > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:40:36 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Lance's W.12 Message-ID: <000201bffcc7$00687380$dd5c08c3@mesh> Lance, Don't get over excited and start rushing things ! Take your time and do a proper job. :-))) Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Lance's W.12 > Thanks, all, for the kind words. > > Len wonders how a "proper plane" might look; after my disappointment in Dallas, I threatened Paul Howard I'd try to catch up to him with a Lone Star Felixstowe. > > As soon as my Datafile drifts over to the New World, I'll compare the kit to the drawings. > > If I start right away, maybe I can have the thing done in four or five years... > > Lance > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:31:01 -0700 From: Mike Kavanaugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/28 Fokker D-VII fixes?? - Mike's rib tape question Message-ID: <3988AF35.EAA86D43@earthlink.net> Thanks DB for the 1/28 D.VII and rib tape info. Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 22:15:53 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Are hotmail people out?? Message-ID: <20000802221553.5297.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi guys, I am unsubscribed and hotmail is having trouble hooking up with you guys??? What's up?? Candice ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2507 **********************