WWI Digest 2501 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: von Heretic's crash by Albatrosdv@aol.com 2) Re: von Heretic's crash by "Matthew Bittner" 3) Re: von Heretic's crash by Ernest Thomas 4) Re: von Heretic's crash by Ernest Thomas 5) Re: von Heretic's crash by Ernest Thomas 6) Re: SV: Too much paint!, was... by Lee Mensinger 7) Re: von Heretic's crash by KarrArt@aol.com 8) What's on the grill by MAnde72343@aol.com 9) Re: Stunning Pup Dio, D.H. 4 INFO? by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 10) Re: Stunning Pup Dio, D.H. 4 INFO? by smperry@mindspring.com 11) Question On Wire Wheels by "laskodi" 12) Re: Stunning Pup Dio, D.H. 4 INFO? by MAnde72343@aol.com 13) Re: Stunning Pup Dio, D.H. 4 INFO? by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 14) Morane Saulnier Type N, info by K129000@aol.com 15) Re: Question On Wire Wheels by Ernest Thomas 16) Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] by Sean Bayan Schoonmaker 17) Re: Morane Saulnier Type N, info by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] by Ernest Thomas 19) Re: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] by Sean Bayan Schoonmaker 20) Re: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] by Ernest Thomas 21) AJP Maquttes kits - any experiences? by "anders bruun" 22) fokker flipper follies by KarrArt@aol.com 23) Re: von Heretic's crash by Albatrosdv@aol.com 24) Re: von Heretic's crash by Albatrosdv@aol.com 25) Re: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] by "DAVID BURKE" 26) DB's love life - an excuse to get away from the D.H.2 seat by "DAVID BURKE" 27) Re: Question On Wire Wheels by Albatrosdv@aol.com 28) Re: Morane Saulnier Type N, info by "DAVID BURKE" 29) Re: Question On Wire Wheels by "DAVID BURKE" 30) Re: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] by Albatrosdv@aol.com 31) Re: AJP Maquttes kits - any experiences? by Albatrosdv@aol.com 32) Re: DB's love life - an excuse to get away from the D.H.2 seat by Albatrosdv@aol.com 33) Re: SV: Too much paint!, was... by "DAVID BURKE" 34) Re: UK Nationals. by "Len Smith" 35) SV: AJP Maquttes kits - any experiences? by "Neil Crawford" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:47:30 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: von Heretic's crash Message-ID: In a message dated 7/29/00 4:38:07 PM EST, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << Fair enough. But that model was intact when it left my hands. Muphugin postal gorillas! E. >> I'll bet you wrote "Fragile" on the box, didn't you?? Might as well wave a red cape in front of them as do that. Two years ago, I made a diorama for a customer of Dick Best talking to his gunner (working on the guns) of his Dauntless just before takeoff from Enterprise to strike the Japanese Fleet at Midway, done from Mr. Best's first-hand account of the moment. Packed it in four different padded boxes - I had done this before and shipped biplanes coast to coast. Labelled "Fragile" on all sides and sent Priority Mail in one of their boxes for the last (outer) one. When it got to the customer, it was broken off the base, the prop was smashed, dive brakes broken, etc., etc. Like the morons had used it for a football against a wall, and more than once. Fortunately it was insured. Fortunately there was a good modeler I knew who lived about 10 miles from the customer, who could fix it - but it never, ever looked again like it looked the day it went into the box. Not only that, but out here the inability to read the national language (so they can actually deliver to the right address) and failure to hire them due to that is a violation of the rights of the applicant. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:58:37 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: von Heretic's crash Message-ID: <200007300100.SAA10462@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:54:06 -0400 (EDT), Ernest Thomas wrote: > > ROTFL!!! > > > IT'S NOT FUNNY!!!! Sorry. I didn't realise. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:25:38 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: von Heretic's crash Message-ID: <39838412.A745461E@bellsouth.net> Matthew Bittner wrote: > > Sorry. I didn't realise. No problem. I was lmao at the caption too, until I saw the picture. I probably would have kept lmao if it wasn't MY model sitting there all busted up, a victim of govt. employee incompetence.(which is not to say all govt. employees are incompetent. Just the ones in charge of handling packages from Italy.) E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:28:16 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: von Heretic's crash Message-ID: <398384B0.FA666AC5@bellsouth.net> Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > I'll bet you wrote "Fragile" on the box, didn't you?? Yes I did! Do you think the gorillas have something against packages from Italy? Fortunately it was insured. Fortunately there was a good modeler I > knew who lived about 10 miles from the customer, who could fix it So did the primates pay in full? Or just the cost of having it fixed? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:36:56 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: von Heretic's crash Message-ID: <398386B8.2E4C8EB9@bellsouth.net> Sharon Henderson wrote: > Hi E! Welcome home... Thanks Rev. Nice to be back. > and happy birthday to the Princeling, I'll pass along the greeting. So do y'all think two is old enough to try and build the Eduard Roland, with adult supervision? Swmbo didn't. But YPH has great manual dexterity, and with that top wing attaching the way it does.... Maybe next year. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:03:51 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SV: Too much paint!, was... Message-ID: <39838D07.C3C1C0D@x25.net> You have never really lived till you have spent 8 days on one of theirs in 1944. I was in the Army and we had oatmeal and rubber sausage every day. On board the S. S. Aquatania, sister ship to the Lusitania. What a thrill. All 18,000 of us really learned all we could ever want to know about troop ships. Lee M. S Karver wrote: > To David Burke's message dated 7/29/00 : > > << Show me a photo of a plane that looks that bad and I'll > > show you a plane captain who is about to be busted down to Airman 2nd > class > > for abandoning his duties! >> > > Tom C on July 29 added > > Almost every modeler I know who has *any* experience around 1:1s has > argued > > themselves blue in the face with the pothunters over this point. I > remember > > talking to a Brit modeler who had a "weathered" USN 1930s airplane > displayed > > in a magazine - I told him the plane captain would be up for a > court-martial > > for that and the leading Chief would have had him on extra duty for a > month. > > Reminds me that when I was in the USN, I was aboard a couple RN ships and > was > > amazed at the level of dirtiness > > It is rather suprising that one would have to adduce the 'spit and polish' > culture of the USN's Golden Wings years to a UK modeler to make him > understand that application of any appreciable weathering is highly suspect > on such aircraft since any unbiased examination of, say, a flight line of > Hawker Furys convincingly demonstates that maintenance of immaculate > airframes was de rigeur not only on this side of the Pond but among all the > great air services of the period. > > Nonetheless, as a violent argument on the Hyperscale Discussion Forum a > number of months ago demonsstrated, there are those who will argue ad > absurdum that there can be no such thing as an airplane that is unweathered > since even the ex-works airframe will have a nick, dent, scratch, or > handprint on it, and that's not even including the exhaust stains from the > engine run-up. > > To such pickers of microscopic nits it is perhaps appropriate to suggest > that one has lightly heat scorched the cylinder heads in the engine but > unfortunately one's macro lens was not sufficiently resolving to capture > this feature and so could not be documented. > Regards, > Stef > > BTW, what does the abbreviation "SV" stand for? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:37:03 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: von Heretic's crash Message-ID: <54.7497b1c.26b4eecf@aol.com> In a message dated 7/29/00 6:36:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << I'll pass along the greeting. So do y'all think two is old enough to try and build the Eduard Roland, with adult supervision? Swmbo didn't. But YPH has great manual dexterity, and with that top wing attaching the way it does.... Maybe next year. E. >> Why bother with adult supervision? Just tell him to be careful, not cut himself, don't glue his fingers together and paint tastes yucky....then again......... RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:37:47 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: What's on the grill Message-ID: <6c.19c9624.26b4eefb@aol.com> Sent in Ernie U's D.III (2132), finally got photos, and etc, unfortunately, web grade resolution loses the woodgrain, (I wanted to tone it down a little, for realism, and it just vanishes at any distance over 12") - so much for absolute realism! The C.V is coming along: basically assembled, rigged and painted; final finishing, decals and a few odd "fiddly bits" to do, should be ok by next week, leaving only the 1/72 D.Va, and that might take a while, I'm not currently in the mood for rib tapes. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:18:17 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Stunning Pup Dio, D.H. 4 INFO? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/2000 10:41:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << http://203.147.216.182/features/hmsgallantct_1.htm >> Wow, Thanks Matt, you made my day pointing out such an outstanding piece of work. I wish I lived next door to this person so I could really learn how things are done, beautiful. Man I was only gone a few days and the list has like 700 posts and to be truthful not to many where OT. And yes I did read them all. As to my Albatros, the interior is in as well as the motor with new wiring which is almost impossible to see when the fuselage is closed up, seams are filled and sanded, it still needs to be re-scribed, then it's off to the spray booth to learn that wood grain technique show on the site. I'm still looking for some ideas about a source of information for the D.H.4, anyone have any idea where I can find some. Also did the Marines ever use this plane during WWl ? I'd like to do one with the big Globe And Anchor the Corps. used back in the early days, Thanks to all of you for your help. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:39:22 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Stunning Pup Dio, D.H. 4 INFO? Message-ID: <000b01bff9d7$c123d8a0$bc0156d1@default> Jon: There is the DH-4 / DH-9 File published by Air Britan "Large well-illusrated American sections total 48 pages and 81 photographs..." Runs about 30 pounds and is available from : Air-Britan (Historians), Ltd. 19 Kent Road Grays, Essex RM17 6DE UK hth sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:57:13 -0700 From: "laskodi" To: "Post WW1 List" Subject: Question On Wire Wheels Message-ID: <000a01bff9da$3f02d440$253819d0@laskodi> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFF99F.91C9C8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How does one assemble the wire wheels that come in the Flashback Berg = kit? What adhesive does one use to glue the P/E rims to the rubber = o-rings? TIA ------Bob ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFF99F.91C9C8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFF99F.91C9C8E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:53:40 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Stunning Pup Dio, D.H. 4 INFO? Message-ID: <29.83e8f6d.26b500c4@aol.com> Jon, the only fairly accurate reference I know about is the Smithsonian NASM's Famous Aircraft... #7 .I remember a picture somewhere with the 'birdie on the ball" on a wartime DH-4; the two Marine airmen who won the CMH during the war earned it in a DH-4. the old Superscale 1/72 decal sheet had one set of MC markings for the Airsucks DH Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:16:14 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Stunning Pup Dio, D.H. 4 INFO? Message-ID: Thanks Steve, I'll keep that in mind if nothing else turns up. $70.00 USD for 48 pages, WOW. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:18:02 EDT From: K129000@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Morane Saulnier Type N, info Message-ID: <9e.7b95be7.26b5067a@aol.com> Does anyone know of a good souce or sources for info on the Morane Saulnier Type N? I'd like to read about its design and development and the men who flew it, plus their exploits. I have Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WW1. Thanks K-129 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:31:14 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Question On Wire Wheels Message-ID: <3983AF92.5601487@bellsouth.net> laskodi wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. First of all, please turn this(html)off. > How does one assemble the wire wheels that come in the Flashback Berg = > kit? What adhesive does one use to glue the P/E rims to the rubber = > o-rings? I recommend white glue. In fact, I'll recommend white glue for just about any metal to plastic connection that isn't under any great stress. First off, any spooges can be easily cleaned up with a wet brush, unlike CA. Second, when I was building my Showbird Spad recently, I had glued about half the metal cockpit bits on with CA, and the other half with white glue. Then I dropped it outside on the carport. Every part that broke off had been joined with CA. All the white glue parts stayed put. Bon Apetite`, E. Laws should not be based on mythology and/or superstition. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:36:01 -0700 From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] Message-ID: Can anyone give me a brief overview of the "worthiness" of this kit (#7-003 IIRC). Thanx in advance, Schoon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:06:53 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Type N, info Message-ID: <3983B7ED.419C9025@bellsouth.net> K129000@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good souce or sources for info on the Morane Saulnier > Type N? Datafile. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:11:02 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] Message-ID: <3983B8E6.6E67C12C@bellsouth.net> Sean Bayan Schoonmaker wrote: > > Can anyone give me a brief overview of the "worthiness" of this kit (#7-003 > IIRC). If you're talking about the 1/48 version, it's a "worthy" kit. I built mine oob and took a first with it at the regionals last year. Takes a bit more work than the new Eduards, but it looks good when it's finished. Beat a few modified DML D-VIII's with it on the local level too. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:25:37 -0700 From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] Message-ID: >If you're talking about the 1/48 version, it's a "worthy" kit. The 1/72 version, though thanx for the input. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:36:29 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] Message-ID: <3983BEDD.3E7A41EC@bellsouth.net> Sean Bayan Schoonmaker wrote: > > >If you're talking about the 1/48 version, it's a "worthy" kit. > > The 1/72 version, though thanx for the input. Sorry. I find 1/72 on the whole most un-worthy! /%} E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 08:04:16 +0200 From: "anders bruun" To: "WWI Modelling Mailing List" Subject: AJP Maquttes kits - any experiences? Message-ID: <001201bff9ec$27990100$46fe43c3@mhxvlwpn> Hi, Has somebody on the list built any of the AJP Maquettes etched brass kits? I wonder a bit about how to build them. They recommend soldering - is that necessary or is cyano good enough? Also, does the paper and glue-stick wing covering work, and are there any special tips on how to deal with it? Can the covered wings be painted? Anders Bruun ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:11:57 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: fokker flipper follies Message-ID: <3b.7df963f.26b5212d@aol.com> Just a quick note for any of you to file away........and if any of you lot are already aware of this well........tough!........... take note of the elevator horns on the early Fokkers with free flying elevators and horizontal knife edge fuselage....the upper horns don't line up with the lower horns- the lower horns are inboard so as to avoid tangling with the inverted pyramid that supports the skid and bottom rudder pivot. Applies to E.I-E.IV and D.I-DV Beware.......... RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:36:11 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: von Heretic's crash Message-ID: <13.8b1bf71.26b526db@aol.com> In a message dated 7/29/00 8:29:10 PM EST, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << So did the primates pay in full? Or just the cost of having it fixed? >> They would have paid in full had my friend wanted to give them the contents of the box, which he didn't, so they gave him $100 toward the second. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:41:27 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: von Heretic's crash Message-ID: In a message dated 7/29/00 9:40:27 PM EST, KarrArt@aol.com writes: << So do y'all think two is old enough to try and build the Eduard Roland, with adult supervision? Swmbo didn't. But YPH has great manual dexterity, and with that top wing attaching the way it does.... Maybe next year. E. >> Why bother with adult supervision? Just tell him to be careful, not cut himself, don't glue his fingers together and paint tastes yucky....then again......... RK >> >From about age 2 to age 5, I watched my father build models for me, and asked questions. When he felt I was safe for simple models (without scalpel/x-acto knives, etc.) I got to do some of my own. (we're talking here of solid wood Strombecker models and those balsa-and-plastic early Monograms) I think this is a good idea. You don't need to set an exact age to it, but watch their manual dexterity. And nowadays I would definitely start with a snap-tite. Do not start them with something beyond them, unless you want them to stop from frustration and never pick up the hobby. A little success at the outset goes a looooooong way to setting the virus in properly. :-) TC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:27:59 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] Message-ID: <002201bff9f1$68d9c500$7981aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Bud, My best to Colleen and Young Prince Harry. Sorry about the D.VII, but that's just impetus to do another one!! Want a Monogram D.VII to do another? I have one you can have. Your Pal, DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:42:59 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: DB's love life - an excuse to get away from the D.H.2 seat Message-ID: <002301bff9f1$69bd2020$7981aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Dear Fellows (and Fellowettes), Well, as I have finished the weave on the D.H.2 seat and am about to dry-brush it and add belts (to hide the bad spots) perhaps you all can tell me what sort of a belt the D.H.2 had. Was it a lap belt only, or would it have likely had shoulder straps too? I have just had dinner with a bevy of well-endowed young ladies (all over 25) and then had drinx. They wanted me to go to another bar with them, but I had to put my most disagreeable foot down and tell them 'no'. The streets are wet, I have had enough Guinness, and I am on my bike, so I need to stay sharp. Most damnably disgusting thing that I have had to do in a damned sight, and I will be working out my frustrations on this D.H.2 seat. It may end up as a strangled slab of mush. But I try to have some self-restraint. And also, all of the girls are either friends of mine and my sister's, or friends of friends, and I have access, and that makes me feel a little better. Nice women with jobs, and can wear a short skirt that can make the Devil yell 'hold!', and they're all from the Gulf Coast. Something about that area that makes the women so - well, they just go out and GRAB things, y'know? My butt is black and blue from one of them pinching it all night, and she's MARRIED, and her husband is there too, but he knows me well, and knows that she's just acting like a fool, but having fun, and he knows that he doesn't have anything to worry about from me - in fact, I usually run screaming to him,"Mark, tell Donna to stop pinching my ass!". This is taken with the usual humor, though I can't remember him once telling her to stop it. Oh well, I guess that's married life. But alot of her friends are pretty hot, and single, and between 25 and 30. And have jobs or careers. So hey, that's an excuse for not building models that I'd like to have. Anyway, why am I telling Y'all all of this personal stuff? I'll post photos of my seat next week. If I don't accidentally kill it. And what kind of belts, hmmm? DB Grrrrrrrrrr.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:45:16 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Question On Wire Wheels Message-ID: In a message dated 7/29/00 10:54:58 PM EST, laskodi@launchnet.com writes: << How does one assemble the wire wheels that come in the Flashback Berg = kit? What adhesive does one use to glue the P/E rims to the rubber = o-rings? TIA ------Bob >> Candice Uhlir dealt with this question in her full-build article on the SMER Avro 504 - you can find two different editions of this article at Modeling Madness and also at the SMO Reviews Page. Her suggestion is to use rubber cement. But also beware that those tires on the Berg and the p-e spokes appear to have individually been made for different kits (as in they do not fit) TC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:44:11 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Morane Saulnier Type N, info Message-ID: <003901bff9f1$ee638f80$7981aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Doesn't Windsock have a Datafile on this A/C? DB -----Original Message----- From: K129000@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, July 29, 2000 11:21 PM Subject: Morane Saulnier Type N, info >Does anyone know of a good souce or sources for info on the Morane Saulnier >Type N? > >I'd like to read about its design and development and the men who flew it, >plus their exploits. > >I have Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WW1. > >Thanks > >K-129 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:46:44 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Question On Wire Wheels Message-ID: <003a01bff9f1$ef3dc2e0$7981aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hi, I haven't done my Berg kit yet, but I did a Fokker D.VIII with wire wheels (I'll post pics later). I used CA glue. works fine. Although sparing amounts of epoxy might do just as well. Tell us what method worked for you, as I don't have ALL of the answers! :-) DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:48:48 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard D.VIII Kit [?] Message-ID: In a message dated 7/29/00 11:36:41 PM EST, s_schoon@pacbell.net writes: << Can anyone give me a brief overview of the "worthiness" of this kit (#7-003 IIRC). Thanx in advance, Schoon >> This is "early Eduard," i.e., a limited-run kit. Big plastic gates, etc. I think the final result is much better than the DML kiy. You can see photos of one I did OOB at my page on the site. Look under "Two Fokker Fighters." After you clean up the flash, and use a bit of putty on the joints and seams, this is a good-looking model. HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:54:37 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: AJP Maquttes kits - any experiences? Message-ID: <17.8ef22f0.26b52b2d@aol.com> In a message dated 7/30/00 1:04:31 AM EST, anders.bruun@telia.com writes: << Hi, Has somebody on the list built any of the AJP Maquettes etched brass kits? I wonder a bit about how to build them. They recommend soldering - is that necessary or is cyano good enough? Also, does the paper and glue-stick wing covering work, and are there any special tips on how to deal with it? Can the covered wings be painted? Anders Bruun >> You're going to *enjoy* the padded room they have set aside for you. :-) Why is it the French not only build wierd airplanes (other than the Nieuport, SPAD, D.520 and Mirages), but even wierder models? (As in "Hi Tech", most ill-named company in the business). According to French modeling friends I have, AJP Maquettes are an expensive trip to the loony bin. TC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:59:57 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DB's love life - an excuse to get away from the D.H.2 seat Message-ID: <5a.89f9df6.26b52c6d@aol.com> In a message dated 7/30/00 1:48:16 AM EST, dora9@sprynet.com writes: << Anyway, why am I telling Y'all all of this personal stuff? I'll post photos of my seat next week. If I don't accidentally kill it. And what kind of belts, hmmm? DB >> Hmmm...a modeler with what might pass to the casually observant as a social life. This is highly suspect - certain things just don't happen, y'know? I think DB is getting creative with his posts here. :-) TC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:00:34 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: SV: Too much paint!, was... Message-ID: <006601bff9f4$1392fdc0$7981aec7@dora9sprynet.com> > Well, all that I was saying was that there have been alot of overweathered aircraft models winning lately, and that the only extremely-weathered A/C that I have seen photos of are either those on desert or island bases, or WW2 USN carrier A/C. Basically those who were in a situation where the sun bleaches them and dust (or salt spray) are pervasive. As far as deeply-toned panel lines are concerned, they look convincing only if the plane has been on fire. Otherwise, it is outski (unless the A/C happened to fly through the smoke from an oil refinery raid.) To get to OT, I feel that the wings of WWI A/C are probably going to be a medium semi-gloss finish. Let me explain the double-modifier 'medium semi'. What we are tyring to replicate is a finish for a cellulose dope. I gloss coat my wings and then spray a mist of a mixture of acrylic flat and Future - enough to ensure that my wings are not reflective. But I like to maintain a sort of semi-gloss finish that looks like the A/C has been doped, not painted. Fuselages, well, if it's a varnished wood, let it shine a bit. Overcoat with a mix that is a small amount of flatting to a large portion of Future, and spray. You will get less of a mirror-type reflectivity and a deeper tone to your wood color. As to fabric fuselages, keep in mind that those were doped too, and had a semi-gloss finish as well, but not as shiny as wood. A 70/30 mix of flat to Future looks nice to me, but you can always re-mix and re-spray at will. Yadda, yadda, yadda DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 07:14:56 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: UK Nationals. Message-ID: <015901bff9f4$65bec200$e0867ed4@mesh> Shane, You will be most welcome, and I am certain that some of the UK List members will ensure that you get sufficient liquid 'medication' to help you over your 'illness'. Keep the World, or at least the List, informed of dates, etc. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier > > One of my abiding ambitions is to visit the UK and US IPMS Nationals. > Of the two, the UK is the one I'm most attracted to, because of the clubs >and especially the SIG displays. At the moment I have a *tiny* window of > opportunity to be in the UK on business in October - and if I am, will > surely be too ill to work that weekend but just well enough to go to >Telford > ;-) > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:18:39 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: AJP Maquttes kits - any experiences? Message-ID: <200007300940.LAA01210@mb07.swip.net> Hi Anders old mate, I don't know about a big project with a lot of structural strength required, I'd probably use epoxy, rather than soldering. But I just tried an old idea from Harry Woodman, in fact in his original article about foto-etsing, he recommended ordinary clear varnish. I just glued together a foto-cut lewis m/g with clear varnish and it worked much better than cyano, you have more time to move parts, and much less mess, on the whole I think cyano is much better as a filler than as glue! /Mvh. Neil ---------- > Från: anders bruun > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: AJP Maquttes kits - any experiences? > Datum: den 30 juli 2000 08:06 > > Hi, > Has somebody on the list built any of the AJP Maquettes etched brass kits? I wonder a bit about how to build them. They recommend soldering - is that necessary or is cyano good enough? Also, does the paper and glue-stick wing covering work, and are there any special tips on how to deal with it? Can the covered wings be painted? > > Anders Bruun > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2501 **********************