WWI Digest 2498 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: SV: Summer slowdowns by "Len Smith" 2) Re: SV: Summer slowdowns by Lee Mensinger 3) RE: Olympic OT by "Graham Hunter" 4) RE: SV: Summer slowdowns by "Graham Hunter" 5) Re: SV: Summer slowdowns by Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com 6) Badger Paints by "Graham Hunter" 7) Re: SV: Too much paint! WAS: the IPMS style by "Nate Smars" 8) Re: the IPMS style by "David C. Fletcher" 9) Re: SV: Summer slowdowns by Albatrosdv@aol.com 10) Very good Eindekker at Modeling Madness by Albatrosdv@aol.com 11) SV: New images by "Mårten Tyllström" 12) RE: Koster Kits by "John Glaser" 13) Re: NKR Models. by smperry@mindspring.com 14) Re: OT film by MAnde72343@aol.com 15) RE: NKR Models. by Shane Weier 16) Re: Koster Kits by "DAVID BURKE" 17) RE: Summer slowdowns by Shane Weier 18) RE: SV: Summer slowdowns by Shane Weier 19) Re: Monosoupapes WAS: Lone Star Nie.28 p/e by "Roger Belanger" 20) RE: Olympic OT by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:57:41 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <018801bff8c8$977c0be0$7f4f08c3@mesh> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:11:31 -0400 (EDT), Neil Crawford wrote: > > > Excuse my ignorance, but what is a lawn dart? People keep mentioning > > them./Neil > > That's what some call the F-104. > > > Matt Bittner > Excuse my ignorance, but what is an F-104? Regards Len. Could be a pre production version of a Dr somethingorother I suppose. lensmith@clara.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:48:04 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <3981E374.86C60EF3@x25.net> A Lawn Dart. Lee M. > Excuse my ignorance, but what is an F-104? > Regards Len. > Could be a pre production version of a Dr somethingorother I suppose. > lensmith@clara.net > Len Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:11:31 -0400 (EDT), Neil Crawford wrote: > > > > > Excuse my ignorance, but what is a lawn dart? People keep mentioning > > > them./Neil > > > > That's what some call the F-104. > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:47:51 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Olympic OT Message-ID: <000101bff8cc$b7b6f1a0$fa0101c0@grahamh> Excellent story Shane. I wish I had been interested in WWI history and modeling 30 years ago. Sergeant Jack Lockett must be one of the few Great War vets still around. When I was a teenager there would still have been a number of RFC vets here in Canada to communicate with. Again, Shane classic Aussie history. Regards, Graham H. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 06:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Olympic OT Hi all, Sort of off topic, and yet not... Yesterday Sergeant Jack Lockett carried the Olympic torch for 100metres through the main street of the mining town of Bendigo. It was the 50th day of the torch relay, and marked 50 days to go. Jack was surrounded by an estimated 16,000 people (in a city of just 20k) and moved very slowly, in part (he said) to allow people at the back and overlooking the street from well back to get a view. So why is this OT at all? Jack Lockett carried the torch as a representative of Australias WW1 soldiers. He's 109 years old, almost 110, and had been a bomb thrower on the Somme. Of all the uncontroversial runners his run has been the most intensely reported - we still haven't forgotten them. (His age makes him the only runner to have lived through *all* the modern Olympics, and the oldest Aussie runner. I'm bloody glad that a WW1 vet had this opportunity. Afterwards he did the proper soldierly thing and hied off to the Returned Services League club for a beer!) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:01:48 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <000201bff8ce$aaa429e0$fa0101c0@grahamh> And like most lawn darts - it's grey... Graham H. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Lee Mensinger Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 02:47 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: SV: Summer slowdowns A Lawn Dart. Lee M. > Excuse my ignorance, but what is an F-104? > Regards Len. > Could be a pre production version of a Dr somethingorother I suppose. > lensmith@clara.net > Len Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:11:31 -0400 (EDT), Neil Crawford wrote: > > > > > Excuse my ignorance, but what is a lawn dart? People keep mentioning > > > them./Neil > > > > That's what some call the F-104. > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:18:28 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: TC Wrote: >> All right! All right! Bittner said it! Raise your torches and pitchforks >> and go over thataway, hear??? :-) Then Matt wrote: >Before you do, take into account the number of on-topic vs. off-topic >built. ;-) I say: How about taking into account ot vs OT posts? :) Later! Brent nb: Edweird cookup D.V. Cockpit should be closed tonight. Wings will start getting decaled too. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:28:12 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: Badger Paints Message-ID: <000301bff8d2$5ae15280$fa0101c0@grahamh> Has anyone tried the Badger paints that became available awhile back? I first heard of them from an Aussie who used it on a PBY-5 with good results. And just recently found some at a model rail road store. The store person mentioned that they are pretty good, they dry really fast (if your airbrushing you need to use the retarder). He only had RR colours, but I'm sure they must offer more. TIA, Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:35:02 -0500 From: "Nate Smars" To: Subject: Re: SV: Too much paint! WAS: the IPMS style Message-ID: <001501bff8d3$4e72d680$6901a8c0@Rickt.milwaukeevalve.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BFF8A9.656A73E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope I don't sound stupid, but just what is this "Verlinden" style = that everyone seems to dislike so much? The always inquisitive newbie -Nate=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BFF8A9.656A73E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:07:12 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <62.5bec17f.26b35000@aol.com> In a message dated 7/28/00 2:59:33 PM EST, ghunter@pangea.ca writes: << And like most lawn darts - it's grey... >> Actually, at certain times of the original lawn dart's career, various of them were among the absolutely most fabulously colorful airplanes ever flown. Those north of the 49th parallel started it, but the Italians definitely finished it as regarded the Tiger Meet markings, and the Italian commemorative schemes are incredible. TC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:18:22 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Very good Eindekker at Modeling Madness Message-ID: <4e.8f38605.26b3529e@aol.com> Caz Dalton's article on creating an A-H Fokker A.III from the 1/72 Revell-Germany kit is at: http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/ww1/cazeindecker.htm He sure did a lot of work with that little thing, and turned it into a gem! Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:49:56 +0200 From: "Mårten Tyllström" To: Subject: SV: New images Message-ID: <009701bff81d$0175ca60$74c443c3@u31603407> Very nice photos Neil. I hate you even more now : -) Just say the word Neil, I´ll fire up the Primax and have those other photos digitalised in no time. Mårten / across the river and a bit north. ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Crawford To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 11:42 PM Subject: SV: New images > Thank you Matt, I only wish you hadn't blown them up so much, I > see so many mistakes! I did a photo session on the terrace the other > day, I'll ask Marten or my sister to scan them in and send them > over sometime. /Neil > ---------- > > Från: Matt Bittner > > Till: Multiple recipients of list > > Ämne: New images > > Datum: den 27 juli 2000 15:31 > > > > Finally! I just added Neil Crawford's images of some excellent 1/72nd > > models. The best - I think - are his SPADs 11 and 16. Well done Neil, > > and sorry it took so long! > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:52:15 -0500 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Koster Kits Message-ID: <000401bff8e6$7a772b60$8d00000a@jcgws> ot alert! That big four engined bird is a thing of beauty. I had to have one too. Glad to hear that I wasn't the only one to stray from the true faith last week. DB - sorry I missed you. Did you get the button I left with Eric for you? - JCG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of Dale Beamish Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Koster Kits Thanks David. So the Koster is the way to go? FW200? Ohhhhh like to see that as well! Only as a diversion of course ..... Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID BURKE To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 28 July, 2000 10:44 AM Subject: Re: Koster Kits > ..DB to the rescue!!! > > I have the Koster Hannover. No, I'm not willing to part with it - when > you see one, you'll understand. When I was sitting talking to him at the > Nats, I pointed out the differences between his kit and Eduard's: namely > that Koster gives you all of the accessories that Eduard doesn't. > > Try GreatModels Webstore. They carry Koster. If not there, then he has > indeed moved. > > Koster Aero Enterprises > 610 Euclid Ct. > Highland Pk, IL 60035 > > I am reading the address off of the insert from the big-ass FW-200 Condor > that I bought at the Nats. > > > DB > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale Beamish > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Friday, July 28, 2000 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: Koster Kits > > > >And the sun comes out again .... Still anyone have an Eduard then? > >Dale > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Lance Krieg > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Sent: 28 July, 2000 9:51 AM > >Subject: Re: Koster Kits > > > > > >> I may have mislead Dale - the kits are still available from Koster - they > >are just not planning additions to the line. I don't have the address > >anymore, and believe they have recently moved. Someone must know... > >> > >> Lance > >> > >> >>> lozenge1@telusplanet.net 07/28/00 10:46AM >>> > >> Lance > >> Not good news! Another Hannover gone! Anyone have an Eduard or Koster kit > >of > >> the Hannover? > >> Dale > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Lance Krieg > >> To: Multiple recipients of list > >> Sent: 28 July, 2000 9:37 AM > >> Subject: Re: Koster Kits > >> > >> > >> > I don't have a URL, but am willing to testify that this is an > >outstanding > >> kit; the white metal and decals are worth the price. > >> > > >> > My brief conversation with them in Dallas would indicate that OT > >offerings > >> are a thing of the past, as their entire line was duplicated by Eduard's > >> injection molded series. > >> > > >> > Too bad... > >> > > >> > Lance > >> > > >> > >>> lozenge1@telusplanet.net 07/28/00 10:26AM >>> > >> > Can anyone shed some light on this kit? Koster's 1/48 Hannover CL.III. > >> Does > >> > anyone have a web site for them? > >> > TIA > >> > Dale > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:10:19 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: NKR Models. Message-ID: <007001bff8e9$0011d3e0$090b56d1@default> > Aviation Usk now here, in Nebraska. ;-) Isn't that NebrUSKa? sorry sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:24:21 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT film Message-ID: At least part of it still exists, I'm sure I've seen part of it in one of the WWI documentaries or other; the thing was shown in theaters in the US as a morale builder, does someone know anyone at the AFI? Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 09:40:43 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: NKR Models. Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D449@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Shane (Jr) said: > > Yup, NKR has some excellent service. Plus, before their GST update, > > you could receive packages from Australia *cheaper* than any other > > place in the US! Plus he delivered a lot soon than most as well! > > Ok, the GST doesn't effect exports, so you should get > approximately the > same prices for kits from NKR as before. I know postage > overseas is GST > free, but I'm not sure if there'll be any price difference on > the actual > kits offered. Pre GST Earl could sell models overseas free of Wholesale Sales Tax (of 22%), now he sells them free of GST (of 10%) Since the former has been abolished and never applied anyway, and the later is not applicable to exported goods, the prices should be exactly the same (unless Earl takes the opportunity to increase prices for some other reason) Meanwhile *we* get the same things a few percent cheaper. New taxes aren't always bad news! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:41:29 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Koster Kits Message-ID: <000301bff8ed$b5b2e140$2b86aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Yup! Thanks! DB -----Original Message----- From: John Glaser To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, July 28, 2000 5:56 PM Subject: RE: Koster Kits >ot alert! > >That big four engined bird is a thing of beauty. I had to have one too. >Glad to hear that I wasn't the only one to stray from the true faith last >week. DB - sorry I missed you. Did you get the button I left with Eric for >you? > >- JCG > >-----Original Message----- >From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of >Dale Beamish >Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:51 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Koster Kits > > >Thanks David. So the Koster is the way to go? FW200? Ohhhhh like to see that >as well! Only as a diversion of course ..... >Dale >----- Original Message ----- >From: DAVID BURKE >To: Multiple recipients of list >Sent: 28 July, 2000 10:44 AM >Subject: Re: Koster Kits > > >> ..DB to the rescue!!! >> >> I have the Koster Hannover. No, I'm not willing to part with it - >when >> you see one, you'll understand. When I was sitting talking to him at the >> Nats, I pointed out the differences between his kit and Eduard's: namely >> that Koster gives you all of the accessories that Eduard doesn't. >> >> Try GreatModels Webstore. They carry Koster. If not there, then he >has >> indeed moved. >> >> Koster Aero Enterprises >> 610 Euclid Ct. >> Highland Pk, IL 60035 >> >> I am reading the address off of the insert from the big-ass FW-200 Condor >> that I bought at the Nats. >> >> >> DB >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dale Beamish >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Date: Friday, July 28, 2000 10:53 AM >> Subject: Re: Koster Kits >> >> >> >And the sun comes out again .... Still anyone have an Eduard then? >> >Dale >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: Lance Krieg >> >To: Multiple recipients of list >> >Sent: 28 July, 2000 9:51 AM >> >Subject: Re: Koster Kits >> > >> > >> >> I may have mislead Dale - the kits are still available from Koster - >they >> >are just not planning additions to the line. I don't have the address >> >anymore, and believe they have recently moved. Someone must know... >> >> >> >> Lance >> >> >> >> >>> lozenge1@telusplanet.net 07/28/00 10:46AM >>> >> >> Lance >> >> Not good news! Another Hannover gone! Anyone have an Eduard or Koster >kit >> >of >> >> the Hannover? >> >> Dale >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Lance Krieg >> >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> >> Sent: 28 July, 2000 9:37 AM >> >> Subject: Re: Koster Kits >> >> >> >> >> >> > I don't have a URL, but am willing to testify that this is an >> >outstanding >> >> kit; the white metal and decals are worth the price. >> >> > >> >> > My brief conversation with them in Dallas would indicate that OT >> >offerings >> >> are a thing of the past, as their entire line was duplicated by >Eduard's >> >> injection molded series. >> >> > >> >> > Too bad... >> >> > >> >> > Lance >> >> > >> >> > >>> lozenge1@telusplanet.net 07/28/00 10:26AM >>> >> >> > Can anyone shed some light on this kit? Koster's 1/48 Hannover >CL.III. >> >> Does >> >> > anyone have a web site for them? >> >> > TIA >> >> > Dale >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:16:00 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D44B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Witold says: >> Thank God it's back to a proper winter day today > > (19C)) > > That you call winter? > here there is mid summer and average temperature last few > weeks was about > 20C. We also have cold July in Poland. If it's any consolation, the temperature in Brisbane at 10am on this midwinter morning is already 19C - heading for about 22C, not a cloud in the sky. Winter is hell ;-) OTOH *summer* really *is* a bit dificult to tolerate here. I'll swap your summer for mine if you can figure out how we do it ! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:35:48 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D44C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt says: > > All right! All right! Bittner said it! Raise your > > torches and pitchforks > > and go over thataway, hear??? :-) > > Before you do, take into account the number of on-topic vs. off-topic > built. ;-) > Yeah, YEAH. Only prod him the ONCE! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:39:26 -0400 From: "Roger Belanger" To: Subject: Re: Monosoupapes WAS: Lone Star Nie.28 p/e Message-ID: <00a301bff8ed$11b3d900$56c14f0c@rogerbel> I would like to see the exhaust photos.......Roger B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Mensinger" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 9:37 PM Subject: Re: Monosoupapes WAS: Lone Star Nie.28 p/e > If any one wants to see what the exhaust "stystem" on a rotary looks like I have > two pictures on hand and all I need is to be asked along with your e-mail > address. > > Lee M. > > Shane Weier wrote: > > > Neil asks: > > > > > I've just been looking at the 160hp Monosoupape, it doesn't seem > > > to have any exhaust pipes!? How does that work? > > > > Actually, rotary engines *don't* have exhaust pipes at all. None of them as > > far as I know. > > > > The pipes usually seen on rotaries are the *intake* manifold, feeding fuel > > into the top of the cylinder from the cavity of the crankshaft casing. The > > only exceptions that I can think of are the monosoupape types which feed the > > fuel air mixture from below the cylinder by having valve cavities cut into > > the side of the cylinder interior below the level of the bottom of the > > stroke. Fuel/air enters from below the piston around its edge - the port > > being closed as the piston rises relative to the cylinder. > > > > Hard to explain, easy with a drawing though ! > > > > ___________________________ > > | | > > | __________________ | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | | | > > | | |_ | > > | | | | | > > | |________________| | | > > | | | | |<=cavity in sidewall of cylinder > > | | | | | > > | | piston | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | | | | | > > | |________O_______| | | > > | | // | | | > > | | // | | | > > _____ | |_____________ > > <==fuel goes in here > > > > The exhaust valve is left out of the picture for clarity, but is up near the > > cylinder head. The absence of an intake valve means just one valve per > > cylinder, hence "monosoupape" > > > > Shane > > > > ************************************************************** > > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are > > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > > to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > > ************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:57:01 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Olympic OT Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D44D@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Graham says: > Excellent story Shane. Thank you. When I first read (and later saw on TV) that he was to carry the torch I worried that he'd peg out before the intervening half year was past. I shouldn't have worried, any Digger tough enough to survive the Somme by 80+ years isn't going to miss the opportunity of a free beer :-) > I wish I had been interested in WWI history and > modeling 30 years ago. Sergeant Jack Lockett must be one of > the few Great > War vets still around. IIRC there are either 2 or 3 Galipolli vets left, all Aussies, and maybe 20 or so Australian WW1 vets in total. Not many, is it? > When I was a teenager there would still have been a > number of RFC vets here in Canada to communicate with. I think that this is a constant lament amongst our little net community, which I feel sorely at the moment myself. I'll be at my Grandmothers funeral on Monday - she was 85, and wanting to go, so it's not too traumatic - and with her passing goes my last personal link to anyone who served. My Grandma told me often (and I eventually taped it) of her experience with flying in 1925, aged 10. Her pilot was Hudson Fysh, a WW1 observer then pilot who was barnstorming and still in the throes of starting an airline - the second oldest, QANTAS. Grandmas first flight (together with her younger brother) cost her Dad 10 pounds, a hefty sum back then. Fysh must have really impressed her - she never flew again ! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. 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