WWI Digest 2495 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Summer slowdowns by Albatrosdv@aol.com 2) Re: Summer slowdowns by Albatrosdv@aol.com 3) Re: Summer slowdowns by Albatrosdv@aol.com 4) Re: Summer slowdowns by Witold Kozakiewicz 5) Re: Summer slowdowns by "P. Howard" 6) Re: Summer slowdowns by Albatrosdv@aol.com 7) RE: Summer slowdowns by Witold Kozakiewicz 8) Re: Summer slowdowns by "Bob Pearson" 9) Toko Strutter, was RE: Summer slowdowns by "Matthew Bittner" 10) Re: Summer slowdowns by "Matthew Bittner" 11) SV: Summer slowdowns by "Neil Crawford" 12) SV: Summer slowdowns by "Neil Crawford" 13) SV: Summer slowdowns by "Neil Crawford" 14) SV: the IPMS style by "Neil Crawford" 15) RE: That semi-gloss finish by "dfernet0" 16) Re: SV: Summer slowdowns by "Matthew Bittner" 17) Re: SV: Summer slowdowns by "Matthew Bittner" 18) SV: Italian Squadons by "Neil Crawford" 19) SV: That semi-gloss finish by "Neil Crawford" 20) SV: That semi-gloss finish by "Neil Crawford" 21) Spad undersides was Re: SV: Summer slowdowns by smperry@mindspring.com 22) SV: SV: Summer slowdowns by "Neil Crawford" 23) Salop. was: Re: awards etc by "Sandy Adam" 24) question from outside listland by "dfernet0" 25) Albatros 3 colour upper wings by David Fleming 26) Re: Salop. was: Re: awards etc by David Fleming 27) Re: Salop. was: Re: awards etc by "cameron rile" 28) Re: Dayton Fly-in by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 29) Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project by Lee Mensinger 30) Re: Site Update by Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu 31) Stunning Pup Dio by "Matt Bittner" 32) Merlin on ebay by "Matt Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:01:46 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <31.8275062.26b289da@aol.com> In a message dated 7/27/00 11:40:40 PM EST, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << > I dropped it, but I picked it up from floor by mistake and tried to use it > for the control cable from the warping horn on my E.III........now I have to > rip the thing out cause it started pulsing and glowing in the dark. Get out of the house now! HURRY, BEFORE IT JUDGES YOU!!! >> ROTFLMAO!!!! I *love* The List!! tfc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:03:29 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <72.18f721d.26b28a41@aol.com> In a message dated 7/27/00 11:45:33 PM EST, phoward@abilene.com writes: << I'm sitting here somewhat impatiently trying to finish this seat in the Blue Max DH2. Six and a half hours so far and still going... Paul H >> Paul: Step back from the workbench!! Breathe deep 65 times. There is not that much detail in the seat of a D.H.2 if you were building a 1:1!! :-) TC (Been there did that) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:05:48 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/00 11:56:39 PM EST, KarrArt@aol.com writes: << JUST in time- we escaped....the thread is now drinking our beer, lolling in the nude and belching while we sit outside, huddled against the cold cold 78 F degree night here in SoCalifornia. RK >> Do you know what a mouthfull of Chardonnay looks like oozing down the computer screen???? :-) TC (Certified Chardonnay slurper and Brie Chomper) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:17:16 +0200 (CETDST) From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/27/00 5:28:21 PM EST, dora9@sprynet.com writes: > > << Makes me wonder why there's a wing ripple > in any of his kits - these wings are perfect EXCEPT for the monstrously > thick injection gates on the leading edges of the wings. Ahh well, it is > quite correctable. >> > > This is so true! I was *amazed* with the wings of the D.H.2 kit. Also, the > wings on the Nie 28 are pretty darn good, too. Boy, talk about an airplane > that is the exception to the rule "if it looks right it is right" - according > to that, the Nie 28 should have been the best fighter of the war. It sure is > an aesthetic beauty. > > TC > Hi, BM Nie.28 is a kit I allways take from my stockpile and try to start as my next project, but allways there ara some reasons I can't do it. First it was my Nie.25 project and I needed cowling master for making resin one, next coockup (BTW I finished mine Nather's D.Va - pictures soon), and now ot Hurricane 1/24 for BoB anniversary. And not sure if I start this beautiful kit after that. We plan next coockup and it might be nieuport - this one would be perfect for this. So nu: not Nie.28, but surely something OT and I'm quite sure BM - Pfalz D.XII, DH.2 or SPAD S.VII maybe , but that will be in september. Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:15:33 -0500 From: "P. Howard" To: Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <009901bff863$9fab07e0$2c9d8ece@phoward> Yeah I know, but it takes that long to stuff 20' of monofilment into a seat that is under a half inch across. Besides, all I have left to do is the seat cushion and the painting now. It sure does look better than the seat in the kit and by now I'm at about eight hours. Another hour or so and I'll be done. I think its time for bed though, 'cause the 2:00AM feeding for the baby is complied with. PH -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, July 28, 2000 2:06 AM Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns >In a message dated 7/27/00 11:45:33 PM EST, phoward@abilene.com writes: > ><< > I'm sitting here somewhat impatiently trying to finish this seat in the Blue > Max DH2. Six and a half hours so far and still going... > > Paul H >> > >Paul: > >Step back from the workbench!! Breathe deep 65 times. > >There is not that much detail in the seat of a D.H.2 if you were building a >1:1!! :-) > >TC > >(Been there did that) > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:21:56 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/00 2:17:55 AM EST, phoward@abilene.com writes: << Yeah I know, but it takes that long to stuff 20' of monofilment into a seat that is under a half inch across. Besides, all I have left to do is the seat cushion and the painting now. It sure does look better than the seat in the kit and by now I'm at about eight hours. Another hour or so and I'll be done. I think its time for bed though, 'cause the 2:00AM feeding for the baby is complied with. >> I just suddenly looked at Paul's e-mail address and realized he lives in *Abilene.* All is now explained as to why he is so crazed. :-) Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:31:30 +0200 (CETDST) From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Shane Weier wrote: > > Definitely NOT summer in Brisbane where we yesterday had the coldest July > day recorded (don't laugh, it was only 11C==50F maximum and then 1.5C==35F > minimum this morning. Thank God it's back to a proper winter day today > (19C)) That you call winter? here there is mid summer and average temperature last few weeks was about 20C. We also have cold July in Poland. Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:09:06 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <200007280931.CAA31200@mail.rapidnet.net> TC Sez ... > . . .. Also, the > wings on the Nie 28 are pretty darn good, too. Boy, talk about an airplane > that is the exception to the rule "if it looks right it is right" - according > to that, the Nie 28 should have been the best fighter of the war. It sure is > an aesthetic beauty. Truth be told the Ni28 *was* a good aircraft that was used before it was ready. Once the fuel system and wing fabric problem was fixed it was an excellent aircraft. We all know about the trouble that the 94th AS had with them ..however .. do we hear of other units having the same trouble? No . they had trained on them and knew the limits of the aircraft and flew within it ... when they were ordered to trade to SPADs, one of these squadrons refused to do so, with the result that the OC was removed from command ... hardly sounds like an unsuccessful design to me. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:58:18 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Toko Strutter, was RE: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <200007280957.CAA10190@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:32:11 -0400 (EDT), cameron rile wrote: > The Toko Strutter is the second, which if I put the centreline struts whcih come with the kit > the top wing sits at an angle of about 5 degrees to the lower wing. Is there an easy way to fix > that? I bet the easiest way would be to fix the top wing to the lower wing via the interplane struts, then build up the center struts from strut stock. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:02:14 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <200007281001.DAA13405@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:17:03 -0400 (EDT), Len Smith wrote: > Is the Spad XIII for a review or can you say what is wrong with it? It is for review, but head this warning: warp/bad fit city. So far the worse model I've worked on (yes, even worse than a certain D.VI... ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:28:22 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <200007281006.MAA14878@mb07.swip.net> Excuse my ignorance, but what is a lawn dart? People keep mentioning them./Neil ---------- > Från: Albatrosdv@aol.com > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: Re: Summer slowdowns > Datum: den 28 juli 2000 08:59 > > In a message dated 7/27/00 10:06:24 PM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: > > << Charlie asks: > > > > > With the recent Eduard, Blue Max, amd others hitting the > > hobby shop shelves > > what are you guys and ladies working on? > >> > > Those of you who go over to Modeling Madness might be aware that I strayed > waaaaay away from the OT Church Of The One True Faith, doing the Original > Lawn Dart for a review (I did it, it was fun, and I liked it :-)) and an FAA > Funky Early (ot) Bird. > > But I have done three acts of contrition and said a Hail Mary and gotten > right into the BM Nieuport 28, which tonight sits painted and Futured, > awaiting decals tomorrow, and have decaled a 1/28 D.VII as the Udet bird - at > the price I am being paid it is OTB other than rearranging the upper wing > because I couldn't look at it to finish it otherwise, but let me tell you if > you are doing it for your own collection you *must* fix that fuselage - it > looks short and squashed otherwise! > > Thanks to Otis reallyreallyreally wanting some Albatros decals, I have some > good decals for an early Roland - I have the C.II profipack sitting here > (nothing to write home about decal-wise in the kit) so will do an early one > from it. > > Yeah, it's fun to do the Lawn Dart, and it is a lot of fun to do the new > Classic Airframes release of a certain early Bristol twin (best kit they have > done for those of you wondering), but it's a *blast* to do the Nie 28. > > The rest are OK, but OT is a blast!! > > TC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:32:39 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <200007281006.MAA14912@mb07.swip.net> Tom wrote: Boy, talk about an airplane > that is the exception to the rule "if it looks right it is right" - according > to that, the Nie 28 should have been the best fighter of the war. It sure is > an aesthetic beauty. > Although I'm building one right now, I'm not really so keen on its looks, the rear fuselage is too long and skinny, or maybe its the Revell kit that spoils its look. /Neil ---------- > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:58:51 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <200007281006.MAA14932@mb07.swip.net> Cam wrote: have three aircraft waiting for their top wings to be put in. A Revell Spad XIII I bought infront of Micheal Alvarado last weekend lol. It is going to end up in Rickenbackers colours. Did Rickenbackers Spad have a light grey colour underneath? I was going to say it was yellow, then I started looking into it, and got more more confused. Finally I looked at my standard reference for SPAD colours which is in IPMS-USA Quarterly 9-2 (summer-74) by Glen Merrill and Rodney Gerrard which I think is still as good as anything thats come later, and everyone else probably copied from it anyway:-) I quote: "Two comments about undersurfaces are necessary. Contempary accounts mention a blueish grey dope high in aluminium used for undersurfaces. No colour rendition of this is available. Instead, it is known that a light yellow (4D3) was used on some SPAD's, but it cannot be established which color was used on a particular machine." The Brussels Spad, and the Smithsonian Spad are grey, Ray Rimell and others often have them as yellow, its really impossible to tell. /Neil ---------- > Från: cameron rile > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: RE: Summer slowdowns > Datum: den 28 juli 2000 05:30 > > >Definitely NOT summer in Brisbane where we yesterday had the coldest July > >day recorded (don't laugh, it was only 11C==50F maximum and then 1.5C==35F > >minimum this morning. Thank God it's back to a proper winter day today > >(19C)) > > Arrggh Id die to be back in a winter like that. The summers in Virginia are extremely > mild. There have only been a couple of days over 30C (86-89F), barely enough to warm the > bones. The sun here is fairly weak as well due to all the moisture in the air. Time to move > down the US South-West where the sun is more like the Australian scorcher. > > I have three aircraft waiting for their top wings to be put in. A Revell Spad XIII I bought infront of > Micheal Alvarado last weekend lol. It is going to end up in Rickenbackers colours. Did > Rickenbackers Spad have a light grey colour underneath? > > The Toko Strutter is the second, which if I put the centreline struts whcih come with the kit > the top wing sits at an angle of about 5 degrees to the lower wing. Is there an easy way to fix > that? > > The Eduard DVa is the third. > > > > > > cam > http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm > > ______________________________________________________________ > Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:01:06 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: the IPMS style Message-ID: <200007281006.MAA14989@mb07.swip.net> Its not just "the American way" its "the human-being way", like it or leave it;-) ---------- > Från: Albatrosdv@aol.com > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: Re: the IPMS style > Datum: den 28 juli 2000 04:16 > > In a message dated 7/27/00 6:39:57 PM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: > > << 'd love to know why most US shows follow one style and most everywhere else > follows another. >> > > Because that is "the American way," and I don't mean that in a complimentary > sense. Whether it's beating out the other moron by slipping into the open > space he left between himself and the car ahead so as to have stopping room, > to being the one who walks away with the plastic pot, the culture has become > "I win - you lose, turkey" to too much an extent. > > Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:05:58 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: That semi-gloss finish Message-ID: <00d101bff87b$6da8ad20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> ----- Original Message ----- From: mdf > There is one very good reason why aircraft in ww1 were glossy - a matt > visish adds drag. Tell me about it! Air has its viscosity. Before every flight in a glider, you must spend some time washing/polishing/caressing the whole darn airframe, even if it was stored inside the hangar. Differences of dirty and clean are very noticeable in gliders, and even when I doubt that it would have been noticeable in the old crates I think that the must have noted very early in aviation that a gloss surface was more aerodinamic than a dull one. D. Hating every minute of the glider cleaning while here is still winter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:14:44 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <200007281014.DAA23905@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:11:31 -0400 (EDT), Neil Crawford wrote: > Excuse my ignorance, but what is a lawn dart? People keep mentioning > them./Neil That's what some call the F-104. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:18:25 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <200007281017.DAA27127@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:12:14 -0400 (EDT), Neil Crawford wrote: > The Brussels Spad, and the Smithsonian Spad are grey, Ray Rimell and others > often have them as yellow, its really impossible to tell. Project Butterfly, which ran in three issues of C&C(US), never gave a color match for the light gray/blueish-gray because the authors never found an original example that had this color. So, until further research is done, Dicta Ira! :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:13:34 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: Italian Squadons Message-ID: <200007281020.MAA01249@mb07.swip.net> In the Harleyford book, it says that the M5 appeared during the early months of 1918, it also says that they were issued to 260 & 261 sq. There is also an article in Windsock 6-90, but it didn't mention this. FWIW/Neil ---------- > Från: Andy Kemp > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: Italian Squadons > Datum: den 27 juli 2000 23:17 > > Does anyone know what equipment 260 & 261 Squadriglia had in > Feb/Mar 1918? > > I suspect they had Macchi M5 - but would appreciate > confirmation :-) > > Andy K > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:15:21 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: That semi-gloss finish Message-ID: <200007281021.MAA01659@mb07.swip.net> Thats a really good point, I must remember to have various degrees of sheen on my next OT model. Thanks/Neil ---------- > Från: KarrArt@aol.com > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: Re: That semi-gloss finish > Datum: den 28 juli 2000 01:37 > > In a message dated 7/27/00 4:07:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: > > << > While this may be so, the evidence of hundreds of photographs suggests that > either the flat overcoat wasn't very flat, or wasn't used at all. >> > > Gotta disagree here- a lot of photos show no sheen whatsoever on the fabric > areas of German machines- but as always- if you have a photo of actual > airplane to be modeled, check IT'S look. > Part of the fun of WW I modeling is trying to capture all the various > textures of glossy and dull dope, varnish, paint, metal, wood and fabric. > Beats the heck out of more modern "one sheen fits all" ! > RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:16:30 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: That semi-gloss finish Message-ID: <200007281021.MAA01691@mb07.swip.net> Any idea about how to do those wrinkles? /Neil ---------- > > That's another thing I like about modeling in general- in any given line up > of airplanes, you're apt to see all kinds of different finishes. > (my favorite "skuzzy" effect may be the wrinkles common to many British > airplanes resulting from less than perfect lacing) > RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:26:37 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Spad undersides was Re: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <006501bff87e$50461080$970156d1@default> Whew, I'm glad to hear that both colors were used. I did my Luke's Spad with a gray underside. I based this on the photo in the datafile where the undersides and the fuselage panel looked the same shade. I thought that more likely to be gray. sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:25:03 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: SV: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <200007281029.MAA11350@mb07.swip.net> I think the Brussels SPAD is pretty original (not sure though), and the grey is very similar to the grey that Ray Rimell has used on the 93'rd sqn SPAD, on the back of the SPAD XIII datafile. The Quarterly article was based on project Butterfly. /Neil ---------- > Från: Matthew Bittner > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: Re: SV: Summer slowdowns > Datum: den 28 juli 2000 12:21 > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:12:14 -0400 (EDT), Neil Crawford wrote: > > > The Brussels Spad, and the Smithsonian Spad are grey, Ray Rimell and others > > often have them as yellow, its really impossible to tell. > > Project Butterfly, which ran in three issues of C&C(US), never gave a > color match for the light gray/blueish-gray because the authors never > found an original example that had this color. > > So, until further research is done, Dicta Ira! :-) > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:38:05 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Salop. was: Re: awards etc Message-ID: <001c01bff881$8a98c2c0$23e8b094@sandyada> > "What's In A Name? Well, this is so o-t, you''ll probably drum me o-u-t, but I can't (note spelling) resist relating the tale of Scunthorpe's web problems. Scunthorpe is a pleasant English seaside resort and decided to promote itself on the www. After several weeks virtually no hits had been registered and investigations were made as to why. Unfortunately it transpired that a certain combination of four letters in the town's name caused all the NetNanny and AntiPorn safeguards to be triggered and removed the fair town from results. The City Council issued a statement that henceforth as far as the Internet was concerned, Scunthorpe would be known as Scanthorpe. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:51:08 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: question from outside listland Message-ID: <021301bff881$bc77ca20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Me again! A reader of my website sent me this question, and since I positively know that someone here will know the answer please send it to me or to Mr. French. However, if you think that is pertinent to our bussines here in List Land (the fields we know) why don't share it? I'm wondering if this Baloon cannon is a gun carried ON the ballon? What about recoil? Could this make a zepppelin from a Drachen? Here the question: >From: "natokina" >Subject: World War One German Flak >Hi, >I'm a wargamer and modeller. I am currently researching data and photos for the WWI German 1914 Balloon Cannon and the 1915 Luftkanone. Have you any data on them? >Thanks, >Jim French. Regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:11:23 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Albatros 3 colour upper wings Message-ID: <3981786A.9D9ED4C6@dial.pipex.com> HI folks ! OK, this may be an old one, but can someone help me over my confusion ? Some background. I recently got seriously back in to WW1 modelling, and am working on my Alb Dvs. My library is primarily the various datafiles. Now, I'm looking at some DI/IIs to do, and in looking round the site I see that many models are in the 3 colour scheme, which isn't mentioned in the datafiles (Presumably because it is recently discovered ?) Also, this explains the 'Albatros Light green' paint Mr Kit do !! My questions are: 1) When was this discovered (Is there an on-line reference ?) 2) What a/c did it apply to ? 3) Is there a way to ID if an a/c had this scheme Sorry if this is going over old ground !! David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:13:13 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Salop. was: Re: awards etc Message-ID: <398178D9.4DBCBFD9@dial.pipex.com> Sandy Adam wrote: > > "What's In A Name? > The City Council issued a statement that henceforth as far as the Internet > was concerned, Scunthorpe would be known as Scanthorpe. Pronounced with a Souuth London accent !! David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:36:55 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Salop. was: Re: awards etc Message-ID: >Unfortunately it transpired that a certain combination of four letters in the town's name On IRCNet (Internet Relay Chat) the channels have a bot which takes care of minor administration such as kicking someone off the channel who swears. About 1994/5 one bloke came on the channel with a co.uk address. Like most other newcomers to a channel he was asked where he hailed from, the answer; "Scunthorpe" and a bot immediately (and automatically and reflexively) kicked him from the channel for trying to hide a swear word amongst other characters. The poor bloke re-entered the channel confused as to why he was kicked out. Some wag had twigged why he was kicked and asked him again where he came from, the bloke answered truthfully and the bot reflexively kicked him out again. It went on for a while. Bots dont recognize context. cam AFC - http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:22:45 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dayton Fly-in Message-ID: Tom, as we say in Newfoundland, how's she going? Welcome to the lunacy. Addictive, informative and great fun this list is a veritable fount of good stuff.. Mark V-J (alas the only WWI nut in our IPMS chapter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:36:29 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project Message-ID: <39818C5D.A9E1D736@x25.net> Please try to pay very little attention to S.L.A.Marshall. He is basically a fraud having no combat leadership opportunities during his service period. He conned his way into becoming a General in the Michigan National guard and is no where near the expert he passes himself off to be. He was such a fraud he added the middle initials so he could call himself "Slam". He is the guy that wrote, "many U.S. Infantry soldiers didn't fire when they should have" in WW II. Shen spent a few hours in Korea, became an instant expert again, and wrote big book about that. During his actual military service time he had no significant command experience. even at Company levels, and was never assigned any higher levels in the chain. If you are good at investigating here is one you can get into really deep. Some others have done it already. Sorry to pop your balloon if he is someone you respected. Having discovered his true status, a number of years ago, I no longer read anything he has written. His actual military records do not support anything he claimed. Ass I said. Sorry. Lee M. Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/28/00 0:10:00 AM EST, phoward@abilene.com writes: > > << 100 bucks not going to be spent on OT > stuff, BUT, I will be listening to it while I'm building, so I guess that > makes it OT... >> > > Ran across an interesting CD at Target (how it got there I have *no* idea) > "Songs of the Great War." My Girlfriend picked it up thinking it was WW2 > swing. All the old standards..."There's A Long Long Trail," "Over There," > "Tipperary," etc., etc. Worth tracking down. To tell the truth, I didn't > know "Long Long Trail" was a Great War song till I read Slam Marshall's book > (see other post for review), but once I read it, and thought of my mother > saying "I learned it from my father" it made perfect sense. I learned it as > a kid from her and it's always been one of my favorites. Learning the > "greater knowledge" of it makes me like it better. > > Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:22:41 -0400 From: Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Site Update Message-ID: Len, Len, Len... Okay, the how to pronounce "Fokker" lessons are a good idea, but trucks on a birthday cake? Go to Wal Mart, look in the diecast toy aisle (where the Hot Wheels are) and look for "Micro Machines". They have a set with an FT-17 tank and a Dr.I, and maybe another set with a SPAD and an artillery piece. Get now for the third birthday. If you treat him right he can grow up to work in an airplane museum, and wonder how to eat and buy models at the same time on museum pay... 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