WWI Digest 2494 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Olympic OT by Ernest Thomas 2) Re: Monosoupapes WAS: Lone Star Nie.28 p/e by Morg17ms@aol.com 3) Re: Dayton Fly-in by Morg17ms@aol.com 4) Re: Dayton Fly-in by Zulis@aol.com 5) Re: SV: SV: Polished Paint by BEN8800@aol.com 6) RE: Summer slowdowns by Shane Weier 7) Tennesee and Re: Dayton, Ohio Fly-in by "cameron rile" 8) Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? by "cameron rile" 9) RE: Summer slowdowns by "cameron rile" 10) Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? by Ernest Thomas 11) Need a CSM Pflaz Dr.1 by smperry@mindspring.com 12) Re: Olympic OT by Mike Kavanaugh 13) Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? by Dave Watts 14) Re: Summer slowdowns by KarrArt@aol.com 15) Re: That semi-gloss finish by KarrArt@aol.com 16) Re: Salop. was: Re: awards etc. by KarrArt@aol.com 17) Re: Summer slowdowns by KarrArt@aol.com 18) Re: SV: Polished Paint by KarrArt@aol.com 19) Forthcoming OT Osprey titles by David Solosy 20) Re: Summer slowdowns by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: Summer slowdowns by "P. Howard" 22) Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project by KarrArt@aol.com 23) Re: Summer slowdowns by Ernest Thomas 24) Re: Summer slowdowns by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? by Ernest Thomas 26) Re: Summer slowdowns by Ernest Thomas 27) Re: Summer slowdowns by "P. Howard" 28) Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project by "P. Howard" 29) Re: Summer slowdowns by "Len Smith" 30) Re: Forthcoming OT Osprey titles - and other books by Albatrosdv@aol.com 31) Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project by Albatrosdv@aol.com 32) Re: Site Update by Albatrosdv@aol.com 33) Re: Summer slowdowns by Albatrosdv@aol.com 34) Re: Summer slowdowns by Albatrosdv@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:33:47 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Olympic OT Message-ID: <3980F10B.67C266F1@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > > Hi all, > > Sort of off topic, and yet not... > That's a nice thing to hear. Thanks for sharing. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:38:56 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Monosoupapes WAS: Lone Star Nie.28 p/e Message-ID: <39.7fb7063.26b24c40@aol.com> Hi Please send along the two photos! Appreciatively, Tom Morgan, Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:44:38 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dayton Fly-in Message-ID: <6b.7953d88.26b24d96@aol.com> Hi - I'm Tom Morgan, new to the group, and an avid 1:48 modeler. Grahan Hunter and I are 2 of the 3 WWI nuts in our IPMS chapter. About 5 or 6 of us will be in Dayton as German mechanic/ground crew re-enactors - all the better to get close to those babies. Hope to lay eyes on your beasts! Tom Morgan, Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:51:40 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dayton Fly-in Message-ID: In a message dated 00-07-27 22:49:07 EDT, you write: << Hi - I'm Tom Morgan, new to the group, and an avid 1:48 modeler. >> Hi Tom, and welcome to the fold, from another Canuck! Glad you could join us, I think you will enjoy this. Dave Zulis Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:52:49 EDT From: BEN8800@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SV: SV: Polished Paint Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/00 5:43:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, neil.crawford@swipnet.se writes: << I use Blue magic custom car polish, and a soft cloth. It works better on oil-based paint, and also on future/johnson Klear. >> Thanks. And believe it or not I have a tube of this stuff in my shop. However, I believe I used it to polish the bare plastic model. Never thought to use it on the paint. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:01:24 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D447@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Charlie asks: > > With the recent Eduard, Blue Max, amd others hitting the > hobby shop shelves > what are you guys and ladies working on? Definitely NOT summer in Brisbane where we yesterday had the coldest July day recorded (don't laugh, it was only 11C==50F maximum and then 1.5C==35F minimum this morning. Thank God it's back to a proper winter day today (19C)) Meanwhile, I'm hardly able to work on anything at all, being committed to a schedule of alternating 1 week in a hotel room followed by one week of 12 hour workdays at home for the last four (and next three) weeks. Even my weekend is now committed to a family funeral :-( However - models in slow progress BM Sopwith Snipe - A beautiful kit, cleaned up and ready to assemble, no ripple BTW CSM Dornier D.I - Removing the pour stubs and cleaning things up, mostly for something to do in the boonies. My other projects are all stalled entirely, being at stages where hotel modelling isn't appropriate ! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:07:41 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Tennesee and Re: Dayton, Ohio Fly-in Message-ID: <50494959F0464D115AC40005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> >This may be a little early but I'm wondering how many from the list are >planning on attending the WWI Fly-in at Dayton Sept. 29 to Oct. 1/2000. I most likely will make it there as I am only a spit away from Ohio now. I am going to be in Tennesee next week in the area of Knoxville/Chatanooga. Is there any WWI aviation content in museums/hobby shops down that way? I couldnt find any museums with WWI content from the Brooklyn CUNY site. cam AFC - http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:10:43 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? Message-ID: >>cameron rile(y) wrote: >>Ernie is it ok with you if I mirror those pics on >> the page under Museums? > >Okie dokie by me. Thanks Ernie, which Museum were the pics taken at? I will mirror it under the Museums section which should be more prominent. The Great Albatros Model Cook-Up http://members.xoom.com/OTprojects/index.html cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:27:43 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <02594959F0464D115AC40005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> >Definitely NOT summer in Brisbane where we yesterday had the coldest July >day recorded (don't laugh, it was only 11C==50F maximum and then 1.5C==35F >minimum this morning. Thank God it's back to a proper winter day today >(19C)) Arrggh Id die to be back in a winter like that. The summers in Virginia are extremely mild. There have only been a couple of days over 30C (86-89F), barely enough to warm the bones. The sun here is fairly weak as well due to all the moisture in the air. Time to move down the US South-West where the sun is more like the Australian scorcher. I have three aircraft waiting for their top wings to be put in. A Revell Spad XIII I bought infront of Micheal Alvarado last weekend lol. It is going to end up in Rickenbackers colours. Did Rickenbackers Spad have a light grey colour underneath? The Toko Strutter is the second, which if I put the centreline struts whcih come with the kit the top wing sits at an angle of about 5 degrees to the lower wing. Is there an easy way to fix that? The Eduard DVa is the third. cam http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:30:53 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? Message-ID: <3980FE6D.DAAB6A1D@bellsouth.net> cameron rile wrote: > > > Thanks Ernie, which Museum were the pics taken at? I will mirror it under the Museums > section which should be more prominent. Not in a museum. The Merc was shot at Aerodrome 92, and it belongs to Dave Watts. The OX-5, if you're adding that, was shot at the museum at Pensacola NAS. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:35:33 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Need a CSM Pflaz Dr.1 Message-ID: <007801bff845$47e9cdc0$920556d1@default> Looking for a CSM Pfalz Dr.1 kit. Give me a shout Off List if you have or know of one for sale or trade. TIA sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:18:46 -0700 From: Mike Kavanaugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Olympic OT Message-ID: <398125C5.3AACDFF7@earthlink.net> In a message Thu.27 Jul 2000, 1929:32-0400 (EDT), sdw@qld.mim.com.au related the following: <> Thanks Shane, after all the model contest hype, this story sort of brings it back down to where it was all about. We spend our leisure in building models that we believe represent the actual thing, making all sorts of suppositions as to color from old black and white photos, delving through what records are available, and we think we know that our efforts represent what actually existed. One hour spent with someone, like Sergeant Jack Lockett, if he was knowledgeable about OT aircraft, could change a lot of that. Aircraft notwithstanding, I'm sure he has some memorable war stories. I wish I was there to have a beer or two with him! Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:22:50 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? Message-ID: <200007280425.e6S4PYw06113@ind.cioe.com> As long as we're on the subject, I'm in a dilemma, should I display the motor all put together, (even more complete than before), or should I display it all taken apart, with the reenactors making like they are doing a overhaul on it? Best, Dave P.S. I am planning with the reenactors to bring most all of my project, and they will make a setting as if they are refurbishing a D.VII or some such thing. Should be pretty good, I'll have the uncovered wings, fuselage, motor, instruments, guns, etc. on display in the reenactment setting. Ernest wrote; >Not in a museum. The Merc was shot at Aerodrome 92, and it belongs to Dave Watts. The OX-5, if you're adding that, was shot at the museum at Pensacola NAS. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:24:53 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/00 7:29:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << Could we drop the IPMS judging thread? >> I dropped it, but I picked it up from floor by mistake and tried to use it for the control cable from the warping horn on my E.III........now I have to rip the thing out cause it started pulsing and glowing in the dark. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:24:54 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: That semi-gloss finish Message-ID: <7c.8cfda2d.26b26516@aol.com> In a message dated 7/27/00 6:29:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << It's also one of the hardest to model without the dreaded judges thinking you just f****d up the finish :-) Mind you, when I try to model it I usually prove the judges right :-( Shane >> The attempt is usually more fun than the result! RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:24:57 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Salop. was: Re: awards etc. Message-ID: <70.18d0671.26b26519@aol.com> In a message dated 7/27/00 11:51:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wolfchen@netpolicy.com writes: << Which is a whole heck of a lot more than you ever wanted to know, I have no doubt.... :-) Sharon >> Heck, I didn't KNOW I wanted to know this till you wrote....now I want to know it and I do....not a bad situation! RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:24:56 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <15.727a1ad.26b26518@aol.com> In a message dated 7/27/00 12:52:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cnlduckwor@ninenet.com writes: << With the recent Eduard, Blue Max, amd others hitting the hobby shop shelves what are you guys and ladies working on? I'm about 50% into Jacobsen's Albatros DIII. >> Got my translucent 1/48 Renwal Fokker E.III wings stuck on today, followed by a bamboo and wire landing gear strut mass.....and waiting for a batch of reference amterial to arrive in the mail so I can start the next painting (on topic!) BTW, if anybody want's to see just how far Eduard has come in the last few years, compare one of their old rotary engines to their newer stuff. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:24:58 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SV: Polished Paint Message-ID: <63.8f50d2f.26b2651a@aol.com> In a message dated 7/27/00 10:36:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, BEN8800@aol.com writes: << Great, but what do you use to polish the paint - plastic polish, tooth paste, talc, or what? Ben >> A strange disgusting product you might be able to use is rottenstone- it's dry red powder available at hardware and lumber stores- it seems to be a dry powder form of jeweler's rouge. It's used wet and makes a horrible red goo...when you rinse it off you've got a mirror finish. A lot of old time funriture makers used to use it, and for taking down "orange peel" it can't be beat. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:20:56 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "WW1 List (E-mail)" Subject: Forthcoming OT Osprey titles Message-ID: <56EBF0EF4A03D4118C6F00902776597F0A9C48@s26pss4.pssc.wa.gov.au> FYI everybody, saw these on Osprey's site at http://www.ospreypublishing.com/   Aces Series - SPAD VII Aces by John Guttman due for publication 25 April 2001 Aces Series - Fokker Dr.I Aces by Norman Franks due 25 April 2001 Aviation Pioneers Series - British, French and Allied Aviation of WW1 by Hugh Cowin due 25 Oct 2000   I'm on digest so hope I haven't been trumped by anybody else on the list.   Cheers   David S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:40:15 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <39810EAF.AA24B2D1@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/27/00 7:29:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: > > << Could we drop the IPMS judging thread? >> > > I dropped it, but I picked it up from floor by mistake and tried to use it > for the control cable from the warping horn on my E.III........now I have to > rip the thing out cause it started pulsing and glowing in the dark. Get out of the house now! HURRY, BEFORE IT JUDGES YOU!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:43:18 -0500 From: "P. Howard" To: Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <006601bff84e$5ad354c0$2c9d8ece@phoward> ><< With the recent Eduard, Blue Max, amd others hitting the hobby shop shelves > what are you guys and ladies working on? I'm about 50% into Jacobsen's > Albatros DIII. >> > I'm sitting here somewhat impatiently trying to finish this seat in the Blue Max DH2. Six and a half hours so far and still going... Paul H ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:51:38 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project Message-ID: <78.83d244c.26b26b5a@aol.com> In a message dated 7/26/00 11:47:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << There are also some nice small radials still made in the former Evil Empire. Not to mention vacuum tubes (how's *that* for ot?). I have a friend who makes great stereo recording equipment using vacuum tube technology (creates better sound, and what I have heard from him leads me to agree) and he prays to Moscow every day that they keept those things in production. TC >> Those 6L6 tubes in those old Fenders that used to be $6.98 at Thrifty Drug are now running around $50-$75!!!!!!!! but at least they're still available.....and just to keep it on topic- maybe one day I'll do one of the test Halberstadts that had radio...all that glowing tube power! RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:52:19 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <39811183.1AFCDFD0@bellsouth.net> "P. Howard" wrote: > I'm sitting here somewhat impatiently trying to finish this seat in the Blue > Max DH2. Six and a half hours so far and still going... Paul, I know of places where you can sit there and weave baskets all day long with no pressure to finish them. If you ever need......... a rest? :-) E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:53:54 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/00 9:40:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << > I dropped it, but I picked it up from floor by mistake and tried to use it > for the control cable from the warping horn on my E.III........now I have to > rip the thing out cause it started pulsing and glowing in the dark. Get out of the house now! HURRY, BEFORE IT JUDGES YOU!!! >> JUST in time- we escaped....the thread is now drinking our beer, lolling in the nude and belching while we sit outside, huddled against the cold cold 78 F degree night here in SoCalifornia. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:58:43 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: AWRIGHT! Where are the Mercedes Refs? Message-ID: <39811303.8E763ED1@bellsouth.net> Dave Watts wrote: > P.S. I am planning with the reenactors to bring most all of my project, and > they will make a setting as if they are refurbishing a D.VII or some such > thing. Should be pretty good, I'll have the uncovered wings, fuselage, > motor, instruments, guns, etc. on display in the reenactment setting. Awe dammit!!! I wanna go! Why don't all you guys who are going take all discussions of this matter off list so those of us who aren't going don't have to hear about it and possibly end up hating and wishing ill will on you. /%] E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:02:12 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <398113D4.43364FE3@bellsouth.net> cameron rile wrote: > The Toko Strutter is the second, which if I put the centreline struts whcih come with the kit > the top wing sits at an angle of about 5 degrees to the lower wing. Is there an easy way to fix > that? cut off the long bits going out toward the tips and replace with .030, or maybe .035 plastic rod. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:02:10 -0500 From: "P. Howard" To: Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <007301bff850$fd220300$2c9d8ece@phoward> -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, July 27, 2000 11:55 PM Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns > > >"P. Howard" wrote: > >> I'm sitting here somewhat impatiently trying to finish this seat in the Blue >> Max DH2. Six and a half hours so far and still going... > >Paul, >I know of places where you can sit there and weave baskets all day long >with no pressure to finish them. If you ever need......... a rest? >:-) >E. > I just wanted to see if I could do it... Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Besides, this is really the first item i've done on the kit. Patience is still up and frustration went away when I finished that Triplane last week. Every model is a new beginning. Trah LA, Trah LA, Trah LA, LA, LA, LA... Of course if it doesn't turn out right, I can deny this conversation and do and aftermarket seat in 20 minutes! Cheers! PH ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:08:36 -0500 From: "P. Howard" To: Subject: Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project Message-ID: <007e01bff851$e51d3800$2c9d8ece@phoward> Tubes rule the world of audio! When you get the Halberstadt done can I listen to it? Please... Its almost time to retube my preamp, 100 bucks not going to be spent on OT stuff, BUT, I will be listening to it while I'm building, so I guess that makes it OT... PH -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, July 27, 2000 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project >In a message dated 7/26/00 11:47:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: > ><< > There are also some nice small radials still made in the former Evil Empire. > > Not to mention vacuum tubes (how's *that* for ot?). I have a friend who > makes great stereo recording equipment using vacuum tube technology (creates > better sound, and what I have heard from him leads me to agree) and he prays > to Moscow every day that they keept those things in production. > > TC >> > >Those 6L6 tubes in those old Fenders that used to be $6.98 at Thrifty Drug >are now running around $50-$75!!!!!!!! but at least they're still >available.....and just to keep it on topic- maybe one day I'll do one of the >test Halberstadts that had radio...all that glowing tube power! >RK > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:45:27 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <023d01bff85b$0e160620$94847ed4@mesh> Matt, Is the Spad XIII for a review or can you say what is wrong with it? Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner > > Well, since the D.VI is out of the way, I have two that are getting > closer. One is a Hawkeye Fokker Dr.I that will be finished as a Jasta > 11 bird (I know, , but this one hasn't been modeled much) and the > other is the Czechmaster SPAD 13. All I can say about the CM SPAD 13 > is avoid it. You're better off with the Meikraft kit, and even that > has its problems. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:25:36 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Forthcoming OT Osprey titles - and other books Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/00 11:30:03 PM EST, SOLOSYD@opssc.wa.gov.au writes: <<   Aces Series - SPAD VII Aces by John Guttman due for publication 25 April 2001 Aces Series - Fokker Dr.I Aces by Norman Franks due 25 April 2001 Aviation Pioneers Series - British, French and Allied Aviation of WW1 by Hugh Cowin due 25 Oct 2000   I'm on digest so hope I haven't been trumped by anybody else on the list.   >> As long as we are dealing with books here, I just got the Fall 2000 catalogue of books from SMO. I rememvber last week or so several people were posting about the upcoming "German Bombers of WW1 In Action," and wondering what it covered, so here is from the catalogue: Author: Peter Cooksley (good sign in my book); "The AEG, Gotha, Frierichshafen, and Zeppelin bombers saw extensive service with the Imperial German Army Air Service...this book by World War I military aircraft expert Peter Cooksley contains over 70 photos, B&W line drawings, three full color cover p[aintings, and ten color profiles." As long as we are mentioning books, allow me to *highly* recommend S.L.A. Marshall's "The First World War." (I'm just into the Allied offensives of the summer/fall of 1918) It's paperback, and I found it in a discount shop for $5. Originally published in hardback in 1964 as part of the American Heritage series and highly recommended by knowledgeable reviewers/critics. Definitely the best single-volume history of the war i have discovered. "Slam" Marshall first saw combat as a junior platoon leader in the 2d Infantry during the Meuse-Argonne campaign, and his knowledge of men under fire comes through in his descriptions. Combine that with his knowledge of history and you get a very even-handed critique of all the morons (there were enough to go around), though he does point out that any army that takes its main battle strategy from a plan whose operation is guaranteed to bring in the one main enemy who would not have come in (at least in a timely manner) otherwise than the operation of this plan, as proof that said army was not run by geniuses as otherwise mythologically assumed. For those who would like to be more knowledgeable about the war in a great bit more than a general sense, yet who are not ready for multi-volume detailed histories, this is what you should look for. I *like* the fact he never drank Haig whiskey after the Great War (this is not in the book, but David Hackworth told me so last week) and have decided to join him in that (since they don't - at least not over here - sell single-malt Scotch, it's an easy boycott to participate in). BTW - for Aussies who can find this, Slam's "typical American pro-Aussie position" is well-documented in his discussion of the performance of the Australians in the 1918 battles. As an American who was not familiar with the Australian contribution to the Great War (other than multiple watchings of "Gallipoli" and "The Light Horsemen"), I feel better educated and now can identify those names you throw around. For those north of the 49th Parallel, I now know why the Canadian War Memorial is where it is. Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:31:36 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/00 0:10:00 AM EST, phoward@abilene.com writes: << 100 bucks not going to be spent on OT stuff, BUT, I will be listening to it while I'm building, so I guess that makes it OT... >> Ran across an interesting CD at Target (how it got there I have *no* idea) "Songs of the Great War." My Girlfriend picked it up thinking it was WW2 swing. All the old standards..."There's A Long Long Trail," "Over There," "Tipperary," etc., etc. Worth tracking down. To tell the truth, I didn't know "Long Long Trail" was a Great War song till I read Slam Marshall's book (see other post for review), but once I read it, and thought of my mother saying "I learned it from my father" it made perfect sense. I learned it as a kid from her and it's always been one of my favorites. Learning the "greater knowledge" of it makes me like it better. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:39:00 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Site Update Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/00 9:18:16 PM EST, lfendy@firstsaga.com writes: << Tried teaching him how to say "Fokker" but grandmom and mom weren't to happy.... >> I am not even going to *think* of the myriad pronunciation possibilities a 2-year old could have come up with *that* word. :-) TC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:55:25 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: <7f.7b1d6e0.26b2885d@aol.com> In a message dated 7/27/00 10:06:24 PM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Charlie asks: > > With the recent Eduard, Blue Max, amd others hitting the > hobby shop shelves > what are you guys and ladies working on? >> Those of you who go over to Modeling Madness might be aware that I strayed waaaaay away from the OT Church Of The One True Faith, doing the Original Lawn Dart for a review (I did it, it was fun, and I liked it :-)) and an FAA Funky Early (ot) Bird. But I have done three acts of contrition and said a Hail Mary and gotten right into the BM Nieuport 28, which tonight sits painted and Futured, awaiting decals tomorrow, and have decaled a 1/28 D.VII as the Udet bird - at the price I am being paid it is OTB other than rearranging the upper wing because I couldn't look at it to finish it otherwise, but let me tell you if you are doing it for your own collection you *must* fix that fuselage - it looks short and squashed otherwise! Thanks to Otis reallyreallyreally wanting some Albatros decals, I have some good decals for an early Roland - I have the C.II profipack sitting here (nothing to write home about decal-wise in the kit) so will do an early one from it. Yeah, it's fun to do the Lawn Dart, and it is a lot of fun to do the new Classic Airframes release of a certain early Bristol twin (best kit they have done for those of you wondering), but it's a *blast* to do the Nie 28. The rest are OK, but OT is a blast!! TC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:00:08 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Summer slowdowns Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/00 10:06:24 PM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Definitely NOT summer in Brisbane where we yesterday had the coldest July day recorded (don't laugh, it was only 11C==50F maximum and then 1.5C==35F minimum this morning. Thank God it's back to a proper winter day today (19C)) >> Interesting, looked at the globe in the corner after reading this, and realized you're about as far south of the line as the Lower Left Corner is north of said line. Complain all you want, we *could* be living in the land of Winter - like the upper Midwest where it's *still* cold on Memorial Day weekend. Of course, when they're snowbound and can't get out, they have an excuse to turn on the modeling lamps over the workbench ("honey, they increase the temperature 5 degrees - honest!") and have few distractions to prevent full-scale production. I guess there is one good thing to be said about having winter visit you. Tom Cleaver (escaped mid-western winters at age 18 and *never* went back) ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2494 **********************