WWI Digest 2488 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Eduard at the Nats by fedders 2) Re: Matt & Allan by KarrArt@aol.com 3) Re: Judging: What comes around.. by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Re: Hustad's winning figure by KarrArt@aol.com 5) Re: SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS!!!- DB's take on the Nats by fedders 6) RE: Student help in Houston by "John Glaser" 7) RE: Hustad's winning figure by "John Glaser" 8) Re: New images by "Limon3" 9) Re: SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS!!!- DB's take on the Nats by "Limon3" 10) Re: New images by "Limon3" 11) That semi-gloss finish by Marc Flake 12) Re: Leptien Albatross by Marc Flake 13) Re: Hustad's winning figure by Sean Bayan Schoonmaker 14) RE: That semi-gloss finish by Shane Weier 15) Re: DBs Albatros by Sean Bayan Schoonmaker 16) Pegasus Wood Decals? by Sean Bayan Schoonmaker 17) RE: DBs Albatros by Shane Weier 18) Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project by mdf 19) Re: Judging: What comes around.. by Albatrosdv@aol.com 20) Re: I'm back by "DAVID BURKE" 21) Re: DBs Albatros by "DAVID BURKE" 22) Re: SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS!!!- DB's take on the Nats by Albatrosdv@aol.com 23) Re: That semi-gloss finish by "DAVID BURKE" 24) Pomilio PE by "Alberto Casirati" 25) Merlin DH5 by "Alberto Casirati" 26) Re: Merlin by "Alberto Casirati" 27) Re: Hustad's winning figure by huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) 28) SV: SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS!!!- DB's take on the Nats by "Neil Crawford" 29) SV: That semi-gloss finish by "Neil Crawford" 30) RE: New images by "dfernet0" 31) Re: Pegasus Wood Decals? by "Matt Bittner" 32) Leptien, was Re: New images by "Matt Bittner" 33) Re: Hustad's winning figure by "Matt Bittner" 34) RE: New images by "Matt Bittner" 35) RE: Hustad's winning figure by "Lance Krieg" 36) Re: That semi-gloss finish by "Lance Krieg" 37) Re: That semi-gloss finish by fedders ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:25:10 -0500 (CDT) From: fedders To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduard at the Nats Message-ID: I asked Eduard about the SE5 and SE5a. They said both should be out next year - whatever that means. peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:33:01 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Matt & Allan Message-ID: In a message dated 7/25/00 11:33:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: << But O heart! heart! heart! . O the bleeding drops of red -paint-, . . Where on the turtledeck my webmaster lies, . . . Fallen on his back, reading threads! >> verily outstanding! RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:33:00 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Judging: What comes around.. Message-ID: <36.922c0f3.26afa7dc@aol.com> In a message dated 7/25/00 2:16:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, xtv16@dial.pipex.com writes: << But I won. (I was stunned). >> That's the other side of weird judging- winning something when you know you don't deserve it. On two occasions, I won awards for models that were in my eyes quite crappy compared to the competition......I could've pointed out obvious basic violations of seamwork, glue blobs and alignment....maybe the judges just liked the overall effect....I don't know! RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:33:02 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hustad's winning figure Message-ID: <5a.86f7af1.26afa7de@aol.com> In a message dated 7/25/00 10:57:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << Proves my contention that the really good ones are Really Good Ones - guys like RK (stop hiding back there in the corner!) or John Alcorn or Bill Bosworth, etc. TC >> A true and harrowing tale of modern marriage: My sliced knuckle, a wound won in combat last Friday with an evil razor blade, was healing nicely.......then this morning, wife says "Hey- I'm having trouble cracking these ice cubes out of this tray- would you do it?"....."Sure" says I, exemplar of gallantry that I am......."scrrrrrriiippppppp"- there goes the knuckle seam, ripped afresh and streaming red. This knuckle being on my typing finger, I think it's appropriate that I'm typing this with my middle finger. So, back to my dark, dank corner for another day or two! RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:35:49 -0500 (CDT) From: fedders To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS!!!- DB's take on the Nats Message-ID: Bad calls are part of all competition. Look at pro baseball, football etc. It's part of the game - as is complaining. peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:35:51 -0500 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Student help in Houston Message-ID: <000d01bff6ab$c0f27960$8d00000a@jcgws> The text of the HobbyWeb post Tom mentioned follows. I've already responded with all I can think of at this time - namely "The Great Paper Airplane Book." Any other ideas from the list? I need help on this one guys. - JCG I teach 7-8grade innercity students. I am looking for free patterns of airplanes, kites, and rockets that students can make out of styrofoam, poster, balsa wood, and things that they find around the house, school or neighborhood. It is my hopes that by getting them interested in flight their delinquency behavior outside of school will decline and their interest in school will increase. I am an English teacher, so I have no budget for such an endeavor, but I know that an interest in airplanes and motorcycles kept my brothers out of trouble. Your guidance towards free or VERY inexpensive patterns and materials would be greatly appreciated. I am most interested in starting the new year off with gliders made from styrofoam meat trays. Thanks ever so much for your help. Teacherdeem@juno.com Also do you know of any clubs in the Houston, TX area that might be willing to come and put a show on for the students? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:54:22 -0500 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: Hustad's winning figure Message-ID: <000e01bff6ac$cda05d70$8d00000a@jcgws> I think we need to nominate Robert (The Ripper) Karr and Diego (Sopwalt Sopwithman) Fernetti as the two top wits of the list. And no guys, I didn't say nit-wits! - JCG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of KarrArt@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 9:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Hustad's winning figure In a message dated 7/25/00 10:57:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << Proves my contention that the really good ones are Really Good Ones - guys like RK (stop hiding back there in the corner!) or John Alcorn or Bill Bosworth, etc. TC >> A true and harrowing tale of modern marriage: My sliced knuckle, a wound won in combat last Friday with an evil razor blade, was healing nicely.......then this morning, wife says "Hey- I'm having trouble cracking these ice cubes out of this tray- would you do it?"....."Sure" says I, exemplar of gallantry that I am......."scrrrrrriiippppppp"- there goes the knuckle seam, ripped afresh and streaming red. This knuckle being on my typing finger, I think it's appropriate that I'm typing this with my middle finger. So, back to my dark, dank corner for another day or two! RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:02:52 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: New images Message-ID: <000a01bff6ad$fe300c00$01de2a3f@f4w2s5> Bob, Thanks for the info. The only other source that I have for the machine is a partial profile in the Osprey Airwar #17 book. I also used the Jasta Pilots for a general idea. If you hear of any other photo source, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know where it can be found. Gabe -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 5:57 PM Subject: Re: New images >Matt supplied me with a detail drawing of the marking from some book, and >the b/w drawing by GVW that is in the Jasta pilots. That was what I used for >my profile - I haven't seen any photos of this particular machine. > >I know of a list member who has made some beautiful ALPS decals of this >machine .. perhaps he'll come forward. .. > >Bob > >---------- > >> Hi Matt, >> Do you happen to know the photographic source for the Leptien DVa which BP >> profiled? I'd appreciate any help on source material re: this machine, >> Gabe >> BTW-congrats again, you deserve all kudos for your hard work. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:07:19 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS!!!- DB's take on the Nats Message-ID: <002501bff6ae$9d212240$01de2a3f@f4w2s5> You had to see U.S. v. Costa Rica for an outstandingly bad call. Talk about getting shot down! Gabe (sorry for no OT content here) -----Original Message----- From: fedders To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:37 PM Subject: Re: SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS!!!- DB's take on the Nats > > >Bad calls are part of all competition. Look at pro baseball, football >etc. It's part of the game - as is complaining. > >peter > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:08:22 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: New images Message-ID: <002a01bff6ae$c238ada0$01de2a3f@f4w2s5> Bob, I forgot to mention that our own Dale Beamish is sending me the Leptien markings, and they look great. Gabe -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 5:57 PM Subject: Re: New images >Matt supplied me with a detail drawing of the marking from some book, and >the b/w drawing by GVW that is in the Jasta pilots. That was what I used for >my profile - I haven't seen any photos of this particular machine. > >I know of a list member who has made some beautiful ALPS decals of this >machine .. perhaps he'll come forward. .. > >Bob > >---------- > >> Hi Matt, >> Do you happen to know the photographic source for the Leptien DVa which BP >> profiled? I'd appreciate any help on source material re: this machine, >> Gabe >> BTW-congrats again, you deserve all kudos for your hard work. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:37:56 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: That semi-gloss finish Message-ID: <397E5D14.6F37@airmail.net> One thing that jumped right out at me at the Nationals is that my models are much too glossy. After applying decals I usually ovespray with a coat of semi-gloss. But this evidently has not taken the sheen down enough. What are your ways of getting this finish? Is it better to flatten the finish then add semi-gloss? Or do I just need to add additional coats of semi-gloss? TIA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:45:55 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Leptien Albatross Message-ID: <397E5EF3.38C1@airmail.net> Gabe: You might try contacting the UTD collection and ask their WW1 researcher to find this photo. If they find it, they will make a print of it for $2. It could take a while though. I don't have their address at this computer. I'll get it tomorrow, unless soeone elese giveslit to you between now and then. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:51:01 -0700 From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hustad's winning figure Message-ID: >http://www.chromaconcepts.com/nats_update/other_pics/pages/P7200084.htm In fact, use the arrows at the top to view all the fantastic models from the show. Fantastic! Schoon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:57:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: That semi-gloss finish Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D42F@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Marc, > One thing that jumped right out at me at the Nationals is > that my models > are much too glossy. After applying decals I usually ovespray with a > coat of semi-gloss. But this evidently has not taken the sheen down > enough. Depends on what you call "enough" Since the real thing was pretty glossy, our WW1 aircraft *should* be a fair bit shinier than modles of WW2 aircraft. Unfortunately, not everyone knows this, including judges, so it may pay (if competing is your thing) to make the models a bit less gloss. I use a mix of semi-gloss and flat varnish with the ratio determined by how weathered I want the result and whether the real machine was in an environment where the gloss wore quickly (Palestine, due to dust abrasion, heat and bright sunlight) > > What are your ways of getting this finish? Is it better to > flatten the > finish then add semi-gloss? Or do I just need to add additional coats > of semi-gloss? > I always find it safer (if tedious) to use multiple super thin coats in which case it's hard to accidentally overdo it even when putting flat straight over gloss But YMMV Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:59:56 -0700 From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DBs Albatros Message-ID: >Superb job, David! That's as good a rib tape job as I have ever seen, and >great wood grain finish. Now don't take that to Huntsville in September. It >might win. Could someone be so kind as to post the url for these images (on or off list). I seem to have missed that vital post. Schoon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:14:11 -0700 From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Pegasus Wood Decals? Message-ID: Has anyone tried these? How do they compare with the other techniques I've seen brandied about the list? Schoon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:24:25 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: DBs Albatros Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D430@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Schoon, > Could someone be so kind as to post the url for these images > (on or off > list). I seem to have missed that vital post. > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu Then go to model images, and thence to Daves page Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:11:00 -0400 From: mdf To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project Message-ID: <397E80F4.E749EC0C@mars.ark.com> "David C. Fletcher" wrote: > , there is a full scale 1 1/2 Strutter for > sale in Ontario that needs an engine to fly - then you can have the best > of the WWI and the building worlds! Anyone have a Warner Scarab radial > in the garage???... Never mind the Warner Scarab - I got an email from someone wanting to know how much a mercedes 160hp and a clerget 130hp are worth...VBG (I'll pass on any inquiries) Mike Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:25:27 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Judging: What comes around.. Message-ID: <42.8adfa04.26afde57@aol.com> In a message dated 7/25/00 9:35:40 PM EST, KarrArt@aol.com writes: << On two occasions, I won awards for models that were in my eyes quite crappy compared to the competition......I could've pointed out obvious basic violations of seamwork, glue blobs and alignment....maybe the judges just liked the overall effect....I don't know! >> RK: remember the big D.VII in 1998 at ValleyCon? I had to physically propel you to the podium to pick that up! :-) (and for the rest of you, it was great - RK is one of the pickiest judges of RK work on the planet). TC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:43:55 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: I'm back Message-ID: <000201bff6cb$0e7f9720$d586aec7@dora9sprynet.com> ? 5? Well, as I said before, if I would have known in time to do something about it, I would have. Bummer. DB -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:04 PM Subject: Re: I'm back > > >DAVID BURKE wrote: >> >> About $20 bucks, I reckon. > >Try $5. >E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:44:43 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: DBs Albatros Message-ID: <000301bff6cb$1098b320$d586aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Thanks for the idea, Chum! DB -----Original Message----- From: Otisgood@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:38 PM Subject: DBs Albatros >Superb job, David! That's as good a rib tape job as I have ever seen, and >great wood grain finish. Now don't take that to Huntsville in September. It >might win. > >Otis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:39:27 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS!!!- DB's take on the Nats Message-ID: In a message dated 7/25/00 9:38:20 PM EST, pfed@saladin.wustl.edu writes: << It's part of the game - as is complaining. >> Dead on, Peter. :-) Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:39:47 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: That semi-gloss finish Message-ID: <005c01bff6cc$af7365c0$d586aec7@dora9sprynet.com> I should suspect that the balance of A/C are semi-gloss. I have to watch to keep my finishes from getting too flat. I use an acrylic flat and Future mix and adjust it to look 'right'. I figure that lacquered wood and cellulose dope are both pretty glossy. So like on an Albatros, I'm for a fairly glossy semi-gloss on the fuselage, and a somewhat flatter ones for the fabric. But still a semi-gloss. Of course, I have heard people remark about how glossy the little beasts are. I wouldn't over-flat things. DB -----Original Message----- From: Marc Flake To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 10:44 PM Subject: That semi-gloss finish >One thing that jumped right out at me at the Nationals is that my models >are much too glossy. After applying decals I usually ovespray with a >coat of semi-gloss. But this evidently has not taken the sheen down >enough. > >What are your ways of getting this finish? Is it better to flatten the >finish then add semi-gloss? Or do I just need to add additional coats >of semi-gloss? > >TIA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:00:00 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Cc: Subject: Pomilio PE Message-ID: <003601bff6cf$1e2704c0$320106c0@acasirat> Dear Chris, I believe I can supply a few data on that PE, but I have to check my references this evening first. Will let you know tomorrow. All the best, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:04:02 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "Bob Pearson" Cc: Subject: Merlin DH5 Message-ID: <004101bff6cf$ae43b800$320106c0@acasirat> Hi, Bob ! I noticed your remark about the Merlin DH5: > I've done three Merlins - DH5 (still the best 1/72 DH5 around) Do you know Libramodels' vacuum-formed kit? Is there anything wrong with it? Thanks in advance! All the best, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:11:33 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: Merlin Message-ID: <004701bff6d0$bb2d4580$320106c0@acasirat> With all those harsh comments about Merlin kits, I would like to try to build one, just to see how much difficult it is to get a good model out of one of their products. Anyone wishing to sell his (or her) Ni.11? Please reply off-list. Thanks very much in advance. Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:12:14 -0500 From: huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hustad's winning figure Message-ID: > >http://www.chromaconcepts.com/nats_update/other_pics/pages/P7200084.htm > >In fact, use the arrows at the top to view all the fantastic models from >the show. Fantastic! Did any of you find the Hustad trademark on the figures? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:40:44 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS!!!- DB's take on the Nats Message-ID: <200007261052.MAA05599@mb07.swip.net> So please don't stop, its great fun reading all this! /Neil ---------- > Från: fedders > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: Re: SOMEBODY CALL THE COPS!!!- DB's take on the Nats > Datum: den 26 juli 2000 04:40 > > > > Bad calls are part of all competition. Look at pro baseball, football > etc. It's part of the game - as is complaining. > > peter > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:44:54 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: That semi-gloss finish Message-ID: <200007261052.MAA05618@mb07.swip.net> One good way is to use pastels, they matt down the surface, but still leave a little shine. /Neil ---------- > Från: Marc Flake > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: That semi-gloss finish > Datum: den 26 juli 2000 05:47 > > One thing that jumped right out at me at the Nationals is that my models > are much too glossy. After applying decals I usually ovespray with a > coat of semi-gloss. But this evidently has not taken the sheen down > enough. > > What are your ways of getting this finish? Is it better to flatten the > finish then add semi-gloss? Or do I just need to add additional coats > of semi-gloss? > > TIA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:32:52 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: New images Message-ID: <01a801bff6f5$3f6a1340$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Great job, Dave! And send more european pics to Matt! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 5:58 PM Subject: New images > I just uploaded some images of two new models built by David Burke. > > Well done, Dave! > > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Modeling Site Assistant Editor :-) > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:21:07 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Pegasus Wood Decals? Message-ID: <200007261221.FAA20776@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:18:55 -0400 (EDT), Sean Bayan Schoonmaker wrote: > Has anyone tried these? How do they compare with the other techniques I've > seen brandied about the list? I have them, but have yet to dry them. Give me a month or two, as I want to use them on a couple of Toko HD D.I's I'm working on. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:19:33 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Leptien, was Re: New images Message-ID: <200007261220.FAA18329@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:08:45 -0400 (EDT), Limon3 wrote: > I forgot to mention that our own Dale Beamish is sending me the Leptien > markings, and they look great. Anyway these can be provided in 1/72nd? ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:24:28 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Hustad's winning figure Message-ID: <200007261225.FAA26022@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:15:24 -0400 (EDT), John Huggins wrote: > Did any of you find the Hustad trademark on the figures? Ah, but how many of us on the list know what that is? For those who don't know (I won't give it all away) Steve always includes a small "piece" in each and every figure dio he makes. Half of the fun with his dio's (after you've finished drooling over yourself looking at the expert workmanship) is finding the "piece". Sometimes the "piece" is not that obvious... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:25:11 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: New images Message-ID: <200007261225.FAA27288@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:41:02 -0400 (EDT), dfernet0 wrote: > And send more european pics to Matt! He has; I just have to figure out how to put them on the site. I may have a way...watch this space for details. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:34:22 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: Hustad's winning figure Message-ID: John opines: "I think we need to nominate Robert (The Ripper) Karr and Diego (Sopwalt Sopwithman) Fernetti as the two top wits of the list. And no guys, I didn't say nit-wits!" Haw! I concur... NET-wits, though. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:40:42 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: That semi-gloss finish Message-ID: The amount of gloss is an interesting problem, and I. too, would like to hear some opinions. Recalling that glossiness decreases with miniaturization, and that even minimal exposure to weather can take off sheen, I tend to flatten the finish more... perhaps TOO much. FWIW, the German Navy specified FLAT finishes in their directives of March/April 1917. Aything from the army? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:15:54 -0500 (CDT) From: fedders To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: That semi-gloss finish Message-ID: Actually newly finished WWI aircraft wera quite glossy. However glossy surfaces show defects too easily so modelers make the surfaces flatter. I usually mix about 1/3 gloss to 2/3 dull (Testors) for the finish - except for varnished wood which I leave glossy. There was only glossy varnish at the time of WWI. peter [A On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Marc Flake wrote: > One thing that jumped right out at me at the Nationals is that my models > are much too glossy. After applying decals I usually ovespray with a > coat of semi-gloss. But this evidently has not taken the sheen down > enough. > > What are your ways of getting this finish? Is it better to flatten the > finish then add semi-gloss? Or do I just need to add additional coats > of semi-gloss? > > TIA > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2488 **********************