WWI Digest 2480 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Emhar 1/72 Figures by David Fleming 2) D.H.4 Help by JVT7532@aol.com 3) Re: D.H.4 Help by smperry@mindspring.com 4) Printing out decals on colour ink jet printers by Patrick J haugh 5) Re: Printing out decals on colour ink jet printers by Lee Mensinger 6) Re: Printing out decals on colour ink jet printers by Patrick J haugh 7) IPMS-Dallas Day 4 by Marc Flake 8) Roden Dr.I - Part the First by "Carol & David Solosy" 9) Re: Blue Max Dolphin arrived by "Sandy Adam" 10) Testors Spad by smperry@mindspring.com 11) Re: Printing out decals on colour ink jet printers by Lee Mensinger 12) Re: IPMS-Dallas Day 4 by "Richard Eaton" 13) Re: Roden Dr.I - Part the First by Zulis@aol.com 14) Re: Gotha Lozenge by "David Calhoun" 15) by "Roger Belanger" 16) Roden Dr.I by MAnde72343@aol.com 17) Re: by Lee Mensinger 18) Re: Blue Max Dolphin arrived by Albatrosdv@aol.com 19) sad news by Charles Hart 20) What Farman? (was MF.11) by Peter Leonard 21) Re: Oshkosh Vimy Visit by Brent & Tina Theobald ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 23:17:17 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Emhar 1/72 Figures Message-ID: <397A1D6D.A0A348C2@dial.pipex.com> Last week, I posted: "Just received the Hannants weekly update, which has: EMHAR EM7201 WWI British Infantry and Tank £3.99 EM7202 WWI British Artillery and 18 £3.99 EM7203 WWI German infantry and Tank £3.99 EM7204 WWI German Artillery and 77mm £3.99 Today, saw the figs in my local shop. The 'tank' are actually 'Tank Crew' and the figures preceed 'field gun' David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:36:32 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: D.H.4 Help Message-ID: Greets to all, just returned from B&N book store with a few OT goodies. Nieuport Aces of WWl and German Knights of the Air, 1914-1918. Holders of the Orden Pour le Merite, both very interesting reading. Now for my question, a good friend of mine sent me a kit of a 1/48 D.H. 4 by AMT. Does anyone know anything about this kit, I know the surface is very heavy and needs to be toned way down but how is the rest of it? I don't have a spits worth of info on this particular aircraft so I will need some help if anyone can provide me with some. Now that my grand daughters gone home after 10 days visit, I may be able to get back to my Albatros. Lets hope so anyway as I have to get cracking or I'll be the last one in. Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:54:29 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: D.H.4 Help Message-ID: <003201bff438$2d9a5c20$1a0d56d1@default> Jon: IIRC the AMT DH-4 kit is of the post war "B" version. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:18:24 -0400 From: Patrick J haugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Printing out decals on colour ink jet printers Message-ID: <397A7210.C5E9A7A6@erols.com> Are any listees familiar with a product called "super cal" ? My local hobby store has started carrying it. It claims to allow you to use any colour ink jet printer to produce decals. 1) Layout graphic design using PC software 2) Print image on supplied decal paper using regular ink jet printer 3) Spray with LAST STEP decal coating 4) Wait one hour 5) cut out and apply decal as usual It looks too good to be true. Is it? My apologies if this subject has already been covered. My ultimate plan is to try printing the Crocodile (?) on the port fuselage of the Albatros CIII for the eduard kit. I have consigned the hateful albatripe to the "unfinished" pile. I am building the Eduard Pfalz DIII out of the box, and so far it looks great. I would strongly recommend this as a "starter" W.W.I kit. All that is left is the rigging....famous last words : ) Haya Safari Patrick Haugh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 23:28:05 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Printing out decals on colour ink jet printers Message-ID: <397A7455.E27B4594@x25.net> I would like to have the trade name of the product.. It sounds pretty good but I can not look it up very well with out the name of the product and the company that makes it. Lee M. Patrick J haugh wrote: > Are any listees familiar with a product called "super cal" ? > My local hobby store has started carrying it. It claims to allow you to use any > colour ink jet printer to produce decals. > 1) Layout graphic design using PC software > 2) Print image on supplied decal paper using regular ink jet printer > 3) Spray with LAST STEP decal coating > 4) Wait one hour > 5) cut out and apply decal as usual > > It looks too good to be true. Is it? > > My apologies if this subject has already been covered. My ultimate plan is to > try printing the Crocodile (?) on the port fuselage of the Albatros CIII for > the eduard kit. > > I have consigned the hateful albatripe to the "unfinished" pile. I am > building the Eduard Pfalz DIII out of the box, and so far it looks great. I > would strongly recommend this as a "starter" W.W.I kit. All that is left is the > rigging....famous last words : ) > > Haya Safari > Patrick Haugh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:43:51 -0400 From: Patrick J haugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Printing out decals on colour ink jet printers Message-ID: <397A7806.31E51691@erols.com> Lee Mensinger wrote: > I would like to have the trade name of the product.. It sounds pretty good but I > can not look it up very well with out the name of the product and the company that > makes it. Product name: Super Cal Manufacturer: Micro Format, Inc., Wheeling, IL, 60090 USA Hope this helps Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:09:18 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: IPMS-Dallas Day 4 Message-ID: <397A7DFE.4690@airmail.net> Just a quick note before I fall into bed . . . Paul Howard took first and second in 1/48th scale aircraft for his Sopwith Triplane and Seimens-Schukhert, er Schuchert, er (oh nevermind) in that order. John Huggins earned an award for Best Out-of-the-Box 1/72 with his Sopwith Triplane. It was hard enough keeping upt with list member names taht I didn't even try to do so with those off-list. The Best WW1 aircraft went to the winner of the 1/72 scale contest, he was one of the award announcers. Maybe some of the other list members who were there can help out. Matt Bitner got an award, too, for his web work for his IPMS chapter and his work on this mailing list and web page. I, on the other hand, started the week with a lousy WW1 library and now have a pretty good one. I'll be ready to talk more about the last four days after some shut-eye. G'night! Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:46:47 +0800 From: "Carol & David Solosy" To: "WW1 List" Subject: Roden Dr.I - Part the First Message-ID: Well, I 've started the Roden Triplane. Here's a few observations. The major parts match the Ian Stair plans in the Windsock Dr.I Special very closely. (I suppose that would prevent Archangel Rimell from slagging off your kit in a review.) Don't know if it's an optical illusion or my deteriorating eyesight, but the rudders drawn by Stair differ from the strip-down profile to the 'fully clothed' version. The Roden rudder conforms with the left 'fully clothed' version. Just goes to show that you shouldn't put too much faith in the accuracy of drawings. There was some flash on many of the parts, but I feel that too much is made of this by many modellers. It only took about ten minutes to clean it all off. Fuselage is spot on with the characteristic bulged fairings being quite subtley done. The cowling isn't quite right. First, its a tad shallow; needs to be about 1mm deeper according to the plans. Certainly not up to the perfectly rendered Hawkeye version. The horizontal lip is appropriately angled, but the cowling sides are too thick and the way they flow into the front face of the cowl isn't that convincing. However, the walls can be thinned with careful sanding. The ventilation openings seem right. The tailplane is remarkably thin sectioned. As thin as I've seen in injection moulding. Similarly the struts and undercarriage legs are beautifully thin. Look at the interplane struts from front on and they almost disappear! Good stuff, Roden. Having said that, the interplanes are perhaps not quite deep enough. With the turtledeck Roden have done a Gannon (of Pegasus fame for those who don't know what I'm on about). The sprue gates are intrusive and took a bit of very precise trimming and careful sanding to remove with no trace. One of the features of this kit is the separate ailerons. The external hinges are molded on to the wing and the receiving tabs are cut into the ailerons. Arguably, these hinges are a little exaggerated. I chose to trim them down slightly rather than enlarge the receiving tabs. The fit isn't perfect and takes a little trial and error sanding. Still, it's a welcome idea from Roden. I'd like to see the same done with the elevator in future kits. The wing ribs are well enough represented, with the undersurface being particularly well done - subtle and appears almost flat when viewed from front on. Two props are provided; an Axial and a Garuda. Again they conform with the plans. Turning to the cockpit, the control column needs work. I would imagine that some members on this list may be somewhat offended by the rectangular grip and simplistic triggers. A compass on its mounting is provided as is some wall framing and gun support/instrument bar. The Spandau guns are OK as plastic goes. I intend to use the breaches and replace the cooling jackets with PE. The wheels are very nice. The undercarriage legs are four separate items that go into receiving holes in the wingfoil axle. The engine is better than previous Toko efforts and quite useable. The decals are a little out of register, but there is no bleeding or fuzzy edges. The only bits that will have to be added are one or two cockpit items, seat belts, fabric 'bulkhead' behind the seat, control horns and, of course, the minimal rigging. Overall, my intial impression after a few hours of cleaning up the parts and comparing to drawings and photos, is that this is a first rate kit. This will be confirmed or otherwise when construction begins. I'll post an update when I've got into the construction in the next few days. David S ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:16:02 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Re: Blue Max Dolphin arrived Message-ID: <000d01bff486$cd27dd00$19e8b094@sandyada> > I sure hope, Uggie, that you are talking about the Eduard kit and not the BM > kit, because - ........ For those who have not seen the BM Roland, let's get this in perspective. It is a very good limited run kit. It does have some of the wing ripple problems associated with BM, but some of the details are exquisite. Comments here seem to suggest it is to be spoken of in the same breath as Merlin and Glencoe (Albatros) - absolute nonsense! The internals are supplied in pewter and build into a very nice framework to start superdetailing on. The basic shape looks good to me and I started building it as soon as it arrived. If it were still the only (injected) game in town, we would be very happy to have it, just like the Halb Cl. My example is better moulded than the recent Snipe and Albatros (OEF), but I'm still delighted to have them too. Unfortunately for Chris Gannon, Eduard finally got round to releasing their rendition of the same plane with a much superior moulding technique and lots of fine details - at half the price! There is no doubt that the Eduard kit is far superior in almost all respects, (although the internal crew partition is solid and needs some careful drill & file work.) I have to admit that my BM kit still languishes in a box half-built while the Eduard is about to face the airbrush. However, I have no doubt an excellent model can be made fairly easily from the BM kit - the obvious question is why buy it now though, when you can buy the Eduard? Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 08:48:34 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Testors Spad Message-ID: <001b01bff4a4$50e10000$f40156d1@default> Has anyone completed the Hawk/Testors 1:48 scale Spad XIII C.1 kit? If you have, please give me a shout off list. TIA sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 08:37:20 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Printing out decals on colour ink jet printers Message-ID: <397AF510.BF5DE076@x25.net> Precisely what was needed. Withnthis I may be able to send e-mail, find a phone number of use Snail mail to get straight information' Your co-operation is greatly appreciated. I have heard rumors in the past. Now I have facts. Lee M. Patrick J haugh wrote: > Lee Mensinger wrote: > > > I would like to have the trade name of the product.. It sounds pretty good but I > > can not look it up very well with out the name of the product and the company that > > makes it. > > Product name: Super Cal > Manufacturer: Micro Format, Inc., Wheeling, IL, 60090 USA > > Hope this helps > > Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:57:58 -0500 From: "Richard Eaton" To: Subject: Re: IPMS-Dallas Day 4 Message-ID: <002f01bff4b6$652df880$ac191b18@austin.rr.com> Thanks for these reports Marc. Way to go Paul, John, and Ringo (er Matt)! You guys are keeping our little niche of this hobby in the eyes of the industry and modeling in general! Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Flake To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:18 AM Subject: IPMS-Dallas Day 4 > Just a quick note before I fall into bed . . . > > Paul Howard took first and second in 1/48th scale aircraft for his > Sopwith Triplane and Seimens-Schukhert, er Schuchert, er (oh nevermind) > in that order. John Huggins earned an award for Best Out-of-the-Box > 1/72 with his Sopwith Triplane. It was hard enough keeping upt with > list member names taht I didn't even try to do so with those off-list. > > The Best WW1 aircraft went to the winner of the 1/72 scale contest, he > was one of the award announcers. Maybe some of the other list members > who were there can help out. Matt Bitner got an award, too, for his web > work for his IPMS chapter and his work on this mailing list and web > page. > > I, on the other hand, started the week with a lousy WW1 library and now > have a pretty good one. > > I'll be ready to talk more about the last four days after some shut-eye. > > G'night! > > Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:04:50 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden Dr.I - Part the First Message-ID: Thank you David for the excellent review. Nice to see such a careful, balanced review instead of whines or rants. I often wonder how thick a skin manufacturers have to develop to survive the comments flowing from some of our intial disappointments...... Dave Z (who will definitely try a couple of these Roden DR.Is....) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:34:37 -0700 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Gotha Lozenge Message-ID: <010e01bff4d4$a9dc62a0$bf093ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Dale! I built the Aurora Gotha about 10 years ago and used the Americal/Gryphon Gotha Lozenge 1917-1918 sheet #24. The decals were excellent, but my finishing techniques were not up to my current standards, so I will be rebuilding this kit in the future, adding some more interior details & a gun tunnel. I also have the newer Gotha sheet #99 which has personal markings for about 10 different aircraft and an excellent book. It takes about 3 sheets of the lozenge to cover the entire Gotha, and since this was painted on the actual aircraft (not done in rolls of lozenge as on other types) you have to be careful to line up the edges of the separate decal panels to get the proper painted effect. They also have a sheet of 5 color lozenge 1917-1918 (night) #27 which would be correct for later built Gothas - you must check your references before deciding which style to do. Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: Dale Beamish To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, July 22, 2000 1:31 PM Subject: Gotha Lozenge >Has anyone used the different Americal Gotha lozenges? Thinking ahead to >several being released! >Dale > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:30:16 -0400 From: "Roger Belanger" To: "WWI" Message-ID: <000b01bff4c3$493d08c0$dec14f0c@rogerbel> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BFF4A1.C18516A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wwi mail ack ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BFF4A1.C18516A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BFF4A1.C18516A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:08:01 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Blue Max Dolphin arrived Message-ID: <30.7f2b8db.26ac9c91@aol.com> In a message dated 7/23/00 4:21:04 AM EST, cbbs@almac.co.uk writes: << However, I have no doubt an excellent model can be made fairly easily from the BM kit - the obvious question is why buy it now though, when you can buy the Eduard? >> That is in fact the case, Sandy. Personally, I think the Snipe was twenty light years superior to the Roland - I had no trouble building it and just took a total pass on the Roland, knowing if I waited a year (I knew about the Eduard) that it would have to be better even if it was the worst thing they did - which it certainly wasn't. BTW - I have the "Profipack" Roland, and can tell you that outside of some fiddly bits in P-E, I don't really see it being that much better than the regular kit to justify the added expense. Oh - just noted: Squadron has "found" some Blue Max Pfalz D.XII kits. This thing is long out of production, and available only at inflated prices from collectors nowadays. They're charging US$39.95 for it, which is a damn good price. You all know I don't let Gannon get away with much, and I will say this is one of his better kits, worth the price. They are also selling the Camel for US$33.95, which is an *excellent* price. Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:09:34 -0600 From: Charles Hart To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: sad news Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000723140934.009ba100@spot.colorado.edu> Greetings All, A small bit of news in the midst of the recent Dallas IPMS meeting. John Meikranz of Meikraft Models lost his long running battle with cancer Thursday 20 July 2000. He is survived by his wife Linda. While he might not have been the most astute business person in the cottage kit business, he was very dedicated to the hobby and some of his contributions are very appreciated by members of this list. Charles Hart hartc@spot.colorado.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:44:27 +0100 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: What Farman? (was MF.11) Message-ID: <397B592A.61C87D80@cwcom.net> I've posted a pic of what I hope is a Farman F40 at http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/thread.cgi?5500,0 can anyone identify it for me? cheers Peter L Lance Krieg wrote: > Matt, there are some revealing, albeit hazy, photos of Italian license-built Farmans in OTF, Vol 7. I'll check my index tonight and see if I can provide some more. > > HTH > > Lance > > >>> tbittners@sprintmail.com 07/17/00 07:43PM >>> > Anybody know of references I don't have for the Maurice Farman MF.11? > The two biggest references I have are the FMP book, and Windsock Vol 8 > No 5. Any others? TIA! > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:22:25 -0500 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Oshkosh Vimy Visit Message-ID: <397B6210.D2D29D1F@airmail.net> Howdy! I might be out there Saturday and Sunday. All this depends on my bike being repaired in time. Later! Brent Brad & Merville wrote: > I'll be departing Monday morning on my annual pilgrimage to the 'World's > Greatest Airshow'. Rumours abound that Vickers Vimy NX71MY, currently known > as 'Silver Queen' and formerly as 'G-EAOU', will make an appearance. I > consider this to be an OT machine as the prototype was first flown in > November of 1917 and one arrived in France in October of 1918 for trials, > though it's not known if it flew operationally. If possible I will make > many pictures with close attention being paid to detail, especially rigging. > If all is successful and anyone is interested I'll be happy to scan them on > my return. I have been waiting years for this event. I am already > rehearsing several phrases to taunt my Warbird Flightline buddies and the > B-thingie crowd, like, "Look a *real* Warbird" and clever variations such > as, "Look a *real* Bomber". I imagine that I'll become so thoroughly > obnoxious that I'll eventually be deported back to Canada. I'll make sure I > have the pictures first though. > > Brad > PS Any other list members planning to attend? I had the pleasure of > hooking up with Dave Fletcher last year. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2480 **********************