WWI Digest 2476 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Roden anounce by Shane Weier 2) Re: eysight/ was: Candice Sopwith Pup Project by Albatrosdv@aol.com 3) IPMS-USA Day 1 by Marc Flake 4) Photo of finished 1/1 model by Edward and Anna Swaim 5) Re: IPMS-USA Day 1 by "DAVID BURKE" 6) Re: Photo of finished 1/1 model by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 7) RE: Photo of finished 1/1 model by Shane Weier 8) Dave #13 sez. ... by "Bob Pearson" 9) Re: IPMS-USA Day 1 by "Matthew Bittner" 10) Methuen help by "Matthew Bittner" 11) Re: IPMS-USA Day 1 by "David Calhoun" 12) Re: New armor site by GRBroman@aol.com 13) Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project by "Douglas R. Jones" 14) Bye for now - off to the show... by "DAVID BURKE" 15) Re: Roden anounce by David Fleming 16) Re:eyesight by "Neil Crawford" 17) : RE: Candice Sopwith Pup Project by "Sandy Adam" 18) ITS DONE !!!!!!!!!!!! by "Bob Pearson" 19) Re: Roden anounce by "Michael Kendix" 20) Re: Photo of finished 1/1 model by "Mike Dicianna" 21) Re: Roden anounce by David Fleming 22) Re: Roden anounce by "Matt Bittner" 23) Re: Roden anounce by "Michael Kendix" 24) Bob Horton by "Matt Bittner" 25) Nats by "Matt Bittner" 26) Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project by "Candice Uhlir" 27) Re: Roden anounce by Peter Leonard 28) Re: Roden anounce by David Fleming 29) Re: Roden anounce by David Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:15:02 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Roden anounce Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D3FA@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Dave (16.3) says: > Maybe next year > they will start on a Nieuport series with about 6 or 7 > different kits! Have > to wait and see. That'll be easier than the Albatrosse. use the *same* plastic parts in all the kits and just change the number on the outside of the box. No-one will notice or care except Messrs Fletcher and Bittner Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:46:21 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: eysight/ was: Candice Sopwith Pup Project Message-ID: In a message dated 7/19/00 3:48:58 PM EST, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << Oh, and eat your carrots. At least it works for me. YMMV... >> Until the day when God looks down and thinks, hmmmm.... there's a self-satisfied unaware target..... Believe me, I had "aces' vision," 20/10, and it happened to me - and I exercised my eyes a *lot* looking for little dots in the sky that could turn into holes surrounded by metal/wood that could run into me. TC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 19:41:00 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: IPMS-USA Day 1 Message-ID: <39764A9C.1BAA@airmail.net> Just stagered in from my first day at the IPMS nationals. The line for registration never seemed to end. The North Central Texas volunteers were doing an admirable job keeping the lines moving. I spent two and a half wonderful hours in the vendor room. I escorted a radio reporter in before opening -- he literally staggered upon seeing all the plastic kits read for buying. Lot's of OT stuff, mainly Eduards, Flashbacks, a few Blue Maxes in 1/48. 1/72 had it's ESCIs and TOKOs. No one had any of the new Rodens. OOP kits included an Airfix F1 Camel and an Aurora Mail Plane. Went to Lone Star Models' advertised 50% off sale and picked up two Eduard kits, the Pfalz DIII for $12 and the Morane-Saulnier N for $11. (I may be asking for assistance on this last one, I hear it's a bear.) Also picked up a couple of INPACT pre WW1 kits. I've got a quandry. One vendor has the Imprie Triplane Book for $28 and another has the Fokker Dr1 Datafile for $23. I don't want to buy both, but was wondering which was the best buy for the money. Any suggestions? Saw listmember Paul Howard. Tomorrow's the trip to UTD. Will report back then. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:53:51 -0500 From: Edward and Anna Swaim To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Photo of finished 1/1 model Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20000720015351.006bafe0@aristotle.net> My wife and I just completed a 1/1 model of ourselves. In a couple of years, he'll be getting that Testor's glue in the blue tube all over everything. You can see his picture by hitting the link to "James S." at http://209.184.145.200/1602/selection.asp The background that the hospital uses sure looks like lozenge camouflage, doesn't it? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:35:10 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: IPMS-USA Day 1 Message-ID: <003501bff1ea$dcd5bea0$8f94aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hi Marc! See y'all tomorrow! DB -----Original Message----- From: Marc Flake To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 7:46 PM Subject: IPMS-USA Day 1 >Just stagered in from my first day at the IPMS nationals. The line for >registration never seemed to end. The North Central Texas volunteers >were doing an admirable job keeping the lines moving. > >I spent two and a half wonderful hours in the vendor room. I escorted a >radio reporter in before opening -- he literally staggered upon seeing >all the plastic kits read for buying. > >Lot's of OT stuff, mainly Eduards, Flashbacks, a few Blue Maxes in 1/48. >1/72 had it's ESCIs and TOKOs. No one had any of the new Rodens. OOP >kits included an Airfix F1 Camel and an Aurora Mail Plane. > >Went to Lone Star Models' advertised 50% off sale and picked up two >Eduard kits, the Pfalz DIII for $12 and the Morane-Saulnier N for $11. >(I may be asking for assistance on this last one, I hear it's a bear.) > >Also picked up a couple of INPACT pre WW1 kits. > >I've got a quandry. One vendor has the Imprie Triplane Book for $28 and >another has the Fokker Dr1 Datafile for $23. I don't want to buy both, >but was wondering which was the best buy for the money. Any >suggestions? > >Saw listmember Paul Howard. Tomorrow's the trip to UTD. Will report >back then. > >Marc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:54:00 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Photo of finished 1/1 model Message-ID: <39765BB8.B30B2433@tac.com.au> Edward and Anna Swaim wrote: > > My wife and I just completed a 1/1 model of ourselves. In a couple of years, > he'll be getting that Testor's glue in the blue tube all over everything. > You can see his picture by hitting the link to "James S." at > http://209.184.145.200/1602/selection.asp > The background that the hospital uses sure looks like lozenge camouflage, > doesn't it? Congrats Edward & Ann. I hope both mum & James are doing fine. Shane & Lorna Jenkins ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:52:40 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Photo of finished 1/1 model Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D3FF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> > My wife and I just completed a 1/1 model of ourselves. Congratulations !!! A new junior listee. > The background that the hospital uses sure looks like lozenge > camouflage, doesn't it? Three colour loz. Now that's sure to confuse the colour police - I *need* some. Congratulations again, and good health to your wife and son Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 18:46:21 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Dave #13 sez. ... Message-ID: <200007200203.TAA32182@mail.rapidnet.net> I have had a message from Dave Zulis via another person that " . . . . His phone line (and consequently, his internet connection) is out of order for a few days, and he needs your help. Here's the story (and I hope I get it right): A few days ago David posted a message on your mailing list saying that he had Peter Kilduff's booklist, and would send it to anyone who sent him an e-mail inquiry. David's worried that any folks who sent him e-mail regarding this will think they're being ignored. In reality, David can't answer any inquiries until his phone line (and internet connection) is working again! " So anyone wondering about the lack of replies, this is why. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:20:47 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: IPMS-USA Day 1 Message-ID: <200007200220.TAA01939@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:49:21 -0400 (EDT), Marc Flake wrote: > Went to Lone Star Models' advertised 50% off sale and picked up two > Eduard kits, the Pfalz DIII for $12 and the Morane-Saulnier N for $11. > (I may be asking for assistance on this last one, I hear it's a bear.) Would you be willing to pick up a couple of things for me, please? I'm looking for the LoneStar 1/72nd Nieuport 28 photoetch and decal set. If you wouldn't mind. TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:23:47 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Methuen help Message-ID: <200007200223.TAA10955@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Anybody have the Methuen that can provide some help? I'm looking for either FS or paint equivalent for "dark blue", Metheun 21D8. TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:47:54 -0700 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: IPMS-USA Day 1 Message-ID: <000e01bff20e$0e448a20$14083ccc@oemcomputer> Hi all at the IPMS nats! What's the story on the Lonestar 50% off sale? Does this include his new resin kits? I would like to buy the 1/48 DH 5 (lists for $40) and 1/48 Lohner "L" flying boat. (lists for $55). If anybody there can get these for me I will pay $50 + s&h (provided you can get them at 50% off these prices) cash money! If anyone has a little (or a lot if you look at it that way) extra cash available to do this please e-mail me if this is possible. Thanks, Dave Calhoun 10 Lake Drive Enfield, CT 06082 -----Original Message----- From: Marc Flake To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:47 PM Subject: IPMS-USA Day 1 >Just stagered in from my first day at the IPMS nationals. The line for >registration never seemed to end. The North Central Texas volunteers >were doing an admirable job keeping the lines moving. > >I spent two and a half wonderful hours in the vendor room. I escorted a >radio reporter in before opening -- he literally staggered upon seeing >all the plastic kits read for buying. > >Lot's of OT stuff, mainly Eduards, Flashbacks, a few Blue Maxes in 1/48. >1/72 had it's ESCIs and TOKOs. No one had any of the new Rodens. OOP >kits included an Airfix F1 Camel and an Aurora Mail Plane. > >Went to Lone Star Models' advertised 50% off sale and picked up two >Eduard kits, the Pfalz DIII for $12 and the Morane-Saulnier N for $11. >(I may be asking for assistance on this last one, I hear it's a bear.) > >Also picked up a couple of INPACT pre WW1 kits. > >I've got a quandry. One vendor has the Imprie Triplane Book for $28 and >another has the Fokker Dr1 Datafile for $23. I don't want to buy both, >but was wondering which was the best buy for the money. Any >suggestions? > >Saw listmember Paul Howard. Tomorrow's the trip to UTD. Will report >back then. > >Marc > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:46:01 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New armor site Message-ID: In a message dated 7/18/2000 7:17:08 AM EST, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: > Here's an on topic armor site: > http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Base/1545/tankcorps.htm > I just started to surf it, so I'm not sure what it contains. Matt, thanks for the heads up. I checked out the site and it is very much under construction, but holds promise. A fairly complete listing of British armor and a year by year break down of Tank Corps activities, although only 1916 is done, and very briefly at that. No pictures yet, hopefully they will be added. I've bookmarked it and plan to check back periodically. It has the potential to be a good modeling resource, it just depends on what it looks lie after construction is done. Mark IV cookup anyone? :) Glen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:50:38 -0500 From: "Douglas R. Jones" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000719234707.00a79100@mail> At 03:11 PM 7/19/00 -0400, you wrote: >Believe me, the day will come, somewhere between 42-46, where all of a >sudden, in a matter of weeks, you will suddenly not see what you used to see >so easily. Hold your arm up - from your hand out will still be fine, from >there in... Yes it will! I figured that out as I was trying to keep an eye on my 1/6 Cub as i flew it in the evening skies over North Texas! Drat these bifocals! Candice, who's kit do you have? I have seen a couple of 1/6 and 1/3 scale but not any 1/4 R/C kits! Jim Kieger probably has the best plans around. Pricey but worth it. In this scale you should be able to create quite a masterpiece! I have seen some pretty incredible models being flown at Old Rhinebeck of the Pup. I am flying a 1/6 version myself. Good luck! Doug -------------------------------------------------- Douglas R. Jones 972-394-4332 'I am a traveler of both Time and Space' Led Zeppelin -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 00:19:09 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Bye for now - off to the show... Message-ID: <001d01bff20a$293cabe0$0282aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Well All, I am pleased to anounce that the Voss F.1 (I don't like the leading edges) is DONE. In 1/28, it is neat. I like it. Also, I dressed up my other crap and am getting it all packed and ready. Off to Dallas in the A.M. So Y'all be good until I come back and tell you all how the List Members fared. As I have already realized that I haven't a dead dog's chance in Hell of winning anything, having seen pics of the stuff that is going there; but it'll be nice to have another excuse to drink alot of beer. Therefore, I'm unsubbing until Sunday or Monday. BYEEEEE! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:41:11 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden anounce Message-ID: <3976BB27.3104CE13@dial.pipex.com> Funny how we are all starting to gripe when someone announces new OT stuff........ Seriously, I wonder if Toko/Roden consider Eduard a rival. The Toko stuff was much more widely available (in the Uk at least). That said, the concentration on German/Austrian stuff is curious - maybe it's the colour schemes that attract people who are not OT modellers per se (A bit like late second war Luftwaffe schemes). Perhaps Fokker and Albatri will become the Bf 109s and F-18s of OT stuff - everybody does one ! (Mind you, there are no good kits of either in real scale, but that's ot). My experience is that many non-OT modellers base their perceptions of what were important WW1 a/c on what kits there have been (e.g. thinking the Morane N was more widespread than it was, because Revell did one). My suggestions for subjects we could do with new kits in 1/72 are: Bristol Fighter (Lots of conversion/colour scheme potential) Nieuport 17 & derivavtives (You could do a good multi variant mould, with different fuselages, cowlings & tails for 17, 17bis, 21, 23, 24, 24bis, 25 & 27) SPAD 7 &13 (Are we all agreed on this ?) Sopwith Camel (A multi variant kit again - F1, 2F1, Comic. Only the Revell kit is any good) BE2/12 series Curtiss Jenny series (But trainers don't sell, do they ?) David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 11:22:58 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: Re:eyesight Message-ID: <200007200927.LAA05262@mb03.swip.net> Matt wrote:Focus on things. No, really focus. If you're at a computer all day (like me) look at something down the hall and quickly focus it in. You'll find you'll quickly be able to focus it in. Do this many times. Also, not just for a "fat quotient", but get up from your desk and do something different - and focus. You can even do this with things on your desk. Say there's a photo of your significant other. Place it a foot or four away from the monitor. Force yourself to focus on it. You'll find it will take awhile, but once you do it often enough, it will be quick to focus it in. Now, start focusing on things farther away. Much farther. Stand outside and look up in the air. Find something passing overhead and focus it in. Focus "so hard" you think you can tell it's a 737 versus a 777. Pretty soon you'll be able to see satellites. Okay, maybe not that, but... Oh, and eat your carrots. At least it works for me. YMMV... Saburo Sakai the japanese ot ace wrote about how they did a lot of eyesight training, they used to try and pick out the stars in daylight. Its in the the book by Sakai/Caidin/Saito called Samurai, which is excellent. It worked for him;-) /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:56:34 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: : RE: Candice Sopwith Pup Project Message-ID: <001b01bff231$664ffa60$3ce8b094@sandyada> Wow, what an ambitious and exciting project. You are fortunate to be constructing one of the few (3 only I think; Strutter, Pup & Tripe) Sopwith (or the only WWI planes) planes that had a tail plane adjusting screw.... Hi Graham We debated this about two years ago and in fact a high proportion of British aircraft had tailplane actuation mechanisms in the cockpit, which connected to adjusting nut&screws in the empennage. Most of the Sopwith types (I think from memory that the Camel was one of the few that didn't) and others such as RE8, SE5a, F2b etc all had these fitted. I have the A&AP RFC Technical and Rigging Notes collection which describes how to assemble and set this gear up on all these aircraft. Some of our contributors had thought that this mechanism might only have been used while on the ground, but its use in flight is referred to in various autobiographies. In fact the trimming and re-trimming of the tailplane in flight was used constantly by RFC pilots. It surprises me that the Germans (who were always quick to adopt a good idea) didn't install similar features. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 04:50:10 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list , "CD" Subject: ITS DONE !!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <200007201159.EAA12519@mail.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, I just added the last of the pages to my Profile CD and did a link check (6918 links, 431 pages, 1400 or so profiles). I picked up a label maker today (lots of fun there). Already designed the cover. Burnt a test CD. .. played around with it. .. drat .. I need a shrinkwrap machine .. then it will look real. I now have to spend the rest of the month preparing the next Internet Modeler, but the actual CD will start to come out of the ol' toaster in early August and should start shipping shortly after that. I am going to mail them off in the order that people paid (seems fair to me), as before I will contact each person as they are sent. I still have a few AM CDs to send off first as well. The price until the end of August is $40 USD, $60 Cdn or £25 GBP. This will also entitle the buyer to an updated disc at 1/2 price in a couple of years. Come September either the price goes up, or the 1/2 price offer disappears .. this is as a thank you for all of you who have supported me in the past year by purchasing an advance copy. Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:29:58 PDT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden anounce Message-ID: <20000720122958.70702.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: David Fleming > >Funny how we are all starting to gripe when someone announces new OT >stuff........ > I agree. > >My suggestions for subjects we could do with new kits in 1/72 are: > ... >BE2/12 series > The BE2c, BE2e, BE12a and BE12b are all available in resin from TOM-M or HR Models. I know it's a pain in the neck to have to replace all the resin struttage, unless you keep your built kits in a controlled environment, but the kits look decent with fairly well detailed main parts, and they are not too expensive being priced around the $10 mark. Michael ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:44:46 -0700 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: Subject: Re: Photo of finished 1/1 model Message-ID: <001a01bff248$49d00580$477f3ace@pavilion> Congrats! Do you have his 1/72nd WWI Airplane mobile done yet for his crib? MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:38:12 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden anounce Message-ID: <397700C3.C6C99CAB@dial.pipex.com> Michael Kendix wrote: > >From: David Fleming > > > > >My suggestions for subjects we could do with new kits in 1/72 are: > > > .. > >BE2/12 series > > > > The BE2c, BE2e, BE12a and BE12b are all available in resin from TOM-M or HR > Models. I know it's a pain in the neck to have to replace all the resin > struttage, unless you keep your built kits in a controlled environment, but > the kits look decent with fairly well detailed main parts, and they are not > too expensive being priced around the $10 mark. > I accept that. I don't mind resin stuff (or even Pegasus!), but the average price of an HR kit in the UK is £12.90, about $20 by my reckoning. I'd rather have a Roden/Eduard one about £6. That way. I could build twice as many !! And HR do some nice Nieuports, but I wouldn't mind seeing some more !! David (Who actually has a Meikraft and a Formaplane BE somewhere) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:48:57 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Roden anounce Message-ID: <200007201348.GAA08119@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:43:12 -0400 (EDT), David Fleming wrote: > HR do some nice Nieuports, but I wouldn't mind seeing some more !! Blech! :-{]~~~ Those are horrid. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:50:02 PDT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden anounce Message-ID: <20000720135002.83660.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: David Fleming > >I accept that. I don't mind resin stuff (or even Pegasus!), but the > >average price of an HR kit in the UK is £12.90, about $20 by my > >reckoning. I'd rather have a Roden/Eduard one about £6. That way. I > >could build twice as many !! And HR do some nice Nieuports, but I . > David: I have seen those prices at English retail outlets (never mind which ones). Are you able to purchase directly from Lubos Vinar at VAMP Models? That is where I purchased mine. I cannot recall his url but there is a link to him on the Allan Wright's WWI modelling site and he advertizes in Internet Modeler. Michael ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:38:47 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Bob Horton Message-ID: <200007201438.HAA13304@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> For those who remember Glen's message, Bob Horton is in the hospital. I don't wish to go into what was wrong, but for those who wish to send well wishes, here is his address: Genesis Medical Center East Campus 1227 E. Rusholme st. Davenport, Iowa 52803 Room 4210, Robert Horton. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:26:58 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Nats Message-ID: <200007201526.IAA21995@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> If anyone hears of Nats images being posted, please send the URL. TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:07:20 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project Message-ID: <20000720160721.70275.qmail@hotmail.com> Doug, This kit is from Balsa USA. My ex bought it around 1987 or so. I just ordered Kieger's plans for the PUP also. In reality this project is a personal test for me. It is going to be a long haul task but if I can't accomplish this one I can never hope to build my own airplane in this lifetime. And I have my eyes on a Zodiac CH-601 kit plane for myself....full IFR,moving map gps in the panel. After that who knows....people have built full scale flying replicas from Jim's plans..... Candice PS Since you are into RC. My pup is for static display only (I'll eventually donate it somewhere). Do you know of any source for large scale replica engines and armaments?? >From: "Douglas R. Jones" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Candice Sopwith Pup Project >Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 01:14:01 -0400 (EDT) > >At 03:11 PM 7/19/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Believe me, the day will come, somewhere between 42-46, where all of a > >sudden, in a matter of weeks, you will suddenly not see what you used to >see > >so easily. Hold your arm up - from your hand out will still be fine, >from > >there in... > > >Yes it will! I figured that out as I was trying to keep an eye on my 1/6 >Cub as i flew it in the evening skies over North Texas! Drat these >bifocals! > >Candice, who's kit do you have? I have seen a couple of 1/6 and 1/3 scale >but not any 1/4 R/C kits! Jim Kieger probably has the best plans around. >Pricey but worth it. In this scale you should be able to create quite a >masterpiece! I have seen some pretty incredible models being flown at Old >Rhinebeck of the Pup. I am flying a 1/6 version myself. > >Good luck! > >Doug > >-------------------------------------------------- >Douglas R. Jones >972-394-4332 > >'I am a traveler of > both Time and Space' > Led Zeppelin >-------------------------------------------------- > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:17:30 +0100 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden anounce Message-ID: <39772619.49B6A7D3@cwcom.net> ".......the concentration on German/Austrian stuff is curious....." Is it really though? Consider for a moment the country of origin. Peter L David Fleming wrote: > Funny how we are all starting to gripe when someone announces new OT > stuff........ > > Seriously, I wonder if Toko/Roden consider Eduard a rival. The Toko stuff was > much more widely available (in the Uk at least). > > That said, the concentration on German/Austrian stuff is curious - maybe it's > the colour schemes that attract people who are not OT modellers per se (A bit > like late second war Luftwaffe schemes). Perhaps Fokker and Albatri will become > the Bf 109s and F-18s of OT stuff - everybody does one ! (Mind you, there are no > good kits of either in real scale, but that's ot). My experience is that many > non-OT modellers base their perceptions of what were important WW1 a/c on what > kits there have been (e.g. thinking the Morane N was more widespread than it > was, because Revell did one). > > My suggestions for subjects we could do with new kits in 1/72 are: > > Bristol Fighter (Lots of conversion/colour scheme potential) > > Nieuport 17 & derivavtives (You could do a good multi variant mould, with > different fuselages, cowlings & tails for 17, 17bis, 21, 23, 24, 24bis, 25 & 27) > > SPAD 7 &13 (Are we all agreed on this ?) > > Sopwith Camel (A multi variant kit again - F1, 2F1, Comic. Only the Revell kit > is any good) > > BE2/12 series > > Curtiss Jenny series (But trainers don't sell, do they ?) > > David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 18:04:05 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden anounce Message-ID: <39773105.AE792429@dial.pipex.com> Michael Kendix wrote: > >From: David Fleming > > > >I accept that. I don't mind resin stuff (or even Pegasus!), but the > > >average price of an HR kit in the UK is £12.90, about $20 by my > > >reckoning. I'd rather have a Roden/Eduard one about £6. That way. I > > >could build twice as many !! And HR do some nice Nieuports, but I . > > > > David: > > I have seen those prices at English retail outlets (never mind which ones). > Are you able to purchase directly from Lubos Vinar at VAMP Models? That is > where I purchased mine. I cannot recall his url but there is a link to him > on the Allan Wright's WWI modelling site and he advertizes in Internet > Modeler. Thanks Michael - I'll have a look ! David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 18:08:51 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roden anounce Message-ID: <39773223.CF4FEB29@dial.pipex.com> Peter Leonard wrote: > ".......the concentration on German/Austrian stuff is curious....." > > Is it really though? Consider for a moment the country of origin. > > Peter L > Ukraine ? IDR it being part of the Central Powers (Part of Russia at the time, no ?), but I did notice that a lot of the Toko kits were of aircraft from the Russian Civil war/Revolution. Unless the people behind Roden are of German extraction...... I don't mind - I'll probably buy the DI, DII & DIII, maybe the Fokker DVII as well. David ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2476 **********************