WWI Digest 2461 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Voss' F.1 by "DAVID BURKE" 2) Re: List Members in Dallas Area by "DAVID BURKE" 3) Re: Sneaking models into the house by Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com 4) Dallas Attendees... by "P. Howard" 5) Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series by Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com 6) SV: How to hide sins by "Neil Crawford" 7) SV: Wow ! by "Neil Crawford" 8) Revell SE5 by "Neil Crawford" 9) Re: Revell SE5 by "Lance Krieg" 10) RE: Voss' F.1 by Shane Weier 11) Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for by smperry@mindspring.com 12) Hey, all you Canadians! by Albatrosdv@aol.com 13) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by Albatrosdv@aol.com 14) Re: Hey, all you Canadians! by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 15) Eduards by "Dale Beamish" 16) Peace Offering by Albatrosdv@aol.com 17) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by "David Calhoun" 18) Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series by Steve Cox 19) Re: How to hide sins by Steve Cox 20) Re: Voss' F.1 by "DAVID BURKE" 21) Re: How to hide sins by smperry@mindspring.com 22) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by E McCann 23) Eduards Albatros C-3 1/48 by BStett3770@aol.com 24) Re: Eduards by Albatrosdv@aol.com 25) Re: Worth checking out by Scottfking@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:07:06 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Voss' F.1 Message-ID: <001f01bfec34$e6c6b560$1495aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Sharon, Seeing as how you're a Voss fan, I just hope that my F.1 conversion does him justice! You be in Dallas too? DB -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Henderson To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Voss' F.1 >And I'd have been happy to hold your arm steady. :-) I think another >whole book could be written that explicates all of Weyl's inaccuracies. >. > >I remember coming across that book when first doing the background >research on my Wolff article for OTF. Thank God our Bob Pearson >and Peter Kilduff offered to give the article a good read-through >before I sent it in.... I'd have been so embarrassed to have perpetuated >the myth of Platz designing the D.R. I, and the whole Fokker feud >thing.... > >But then, that's one of the things for which I prize this list. >We're a well-read and often difficult to convince bunch -- and that >has got to be good for the hobby and the field as a whole! > >Sharon > >><< God, I wish someone had shot Weyl at birth >> >> Shane >> >> >> >> I would've pulled the trigger. >>RK >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:10:51 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: List Members in Dallas Area Message-ID: <002001bfec34$e7a0e8c0$1495aec7@dora9sprynet.com> ...Female modelers >>are as likely to suffer this problem as males, and could send their >>non-understanding other half to a golf store (the equivalent of >a department >>store) or something while doing what they enjoy without apology. You mean that female modelers also have trouble getting dates or at least have to suffer the raised eyebrows at their hobby as they should be doing something more 'grown-up'? Wow, that makes me feel alot better! Personally, I have been avoiding my female counterparts - takes away too much time and money for modeling! ;) DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:39:57 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Sneaking models into the house Message-ID: Howdy! It's not really a problem. She just likes to have ammo to defend her own purchases. In fact, you were there when she called about it Merrill. She was just giving me a bit of a hard time. Think how fast $100 would go at a "gentleman's club". I'd be done there in an evening. One $50 model will keep me entertained for many, many evenings. Later! Brent None of my married friends seem to have any problems, (with the exception of Brent), is this really a problem? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:52:26 -0500 From: "P. Howard" To: "WWI Post" Subject: Dallas Attendees... Message-ID: <006d01bfec3a$b62b1bc0$8e9d8ece@phoward> Does anyone have a running list of people planning to attend the Nats? I've been off list for quite a while and am trying to catch up. Paul H ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:49:58 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series Message-ID: Greetings, I liked the shots of the Gotha GL.VII. I hadn't seen those published before. The lozenge was clearly visible. There is one shot of an F.I Triplane with a clearly curved horizontal stab too. The rest made into a pretty good general history. Later! Brent "DAVID BURKE" @pease1.sr.unh.edu on 07/11/2000 07:50:13 PM Please respond to wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Sent by: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list cc: Subject: Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series Well, It works well in the library, although with the large scope of coverage, much gets only lightly covered. Worth the money, and it's nice to see Osprey do the book. Some of the pics are nice, but not much in it that is really news. Overall, a B-: because of some errors, and that the book is small! DB -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: RE: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series >DB, > >> Uhh, Shane me mate, that's what I said: the engine and prop >> counter-rotate. >> > >Doh. I misread it. Correct. > >But tell us more about the book than this nit.... > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > >************************************************************** >The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential >and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution >or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are >requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems >to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. >E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. >************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:45:24 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: How to hide sins Message-ID: <200007122003.WAA14103@mb03.swip.net> I do something similar, the old "next years birthday" variant, but she just looks at me and say's "you've already had that,....twice!" Still trying/Neil ---------- > Från: PolTexCW@aol.com > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: How to hide sins > Datum: den 12 juli 2000 00:59 > > > In a message dated 7/11/0 5:20:37 PM, lordfernettix@hotmail.com writes: > > >Come on, married listees, tell us how do we have to do to hide our innocent > > > >"sins" > > When your wife asks you what you would like for your birtyhday, aniversary > etc., you tell her something to the effect that you would really love to have > the new kit of a Schlagsahne Flugzueg 427gIV, manufactured by Dziugashvili in > Tbilisi, and - if it's not too much to ask - those wonderful pamphlets just > published concerning the aircraft of the Franco-Persian War by Tsuenta > Yolopunda published by Menage a Trois in Kuala Lampur - the total cost of > these items will be a mere twety dollars or so, but of course it will take > many months for them to arrive - but that is no problem - it's worth the wait. > > If your wife is reasonably normal - as is mine - her eyes will have glazed > over somewhere around Tbilisi, so that when you complete your peroration she > will no doubt say something to this effect: "I have no idea how to order > those things!" At which you gallantly offer to do it for her. > > When you have patiently built up a series of gift-receiving-events, and she > is totally lost as to what she or may not have purchased for you, you can > order stuff with abandon, and whenever a package arrives you simply exclaim > something like: "On ho! The Kapusta z Robakami 843 Asymetrical Quadraplane > that you bought me for Malcolm Muggeridge Day in 1996, has finally arrived > from Miszkykiszky!" > > Thank her profusely, and ask her what she would like for next Red Ripe > Raspberry Day. > > John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:55:03 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: SV: Wow ! Message-ID: <200007122003.WAA14290@mb03.swip.net> I don't know much about Dr1's or acryllic paints, but for what its worth, I use 5 minute epoxy for struts, often in combination with a simple jig made of stiff paper. I usually end up in a mess, but with patience and constant adjustment, it turns out all right at the end. Its vital too check from every angle that it's properly squared up. Looking at it from the rear is often revealing. Excess epoxy can be removed with a sharp knife. /Neil ---------- > Från: E McCann > Till: Multiple recipients of list > Ämne: Re: Wow ! > Datum: den 12 juli 2000 02:43 > > Thanks for all the comments/suggestions, everyone. Looking at the DR.1 > (which my wife actually spontaneously purchased for me, with about 3 other > kits, at a hobby shop! And let me purchase about 3 others...) I see that, > yes, there *is* quite a lack of rigging there. The only thing that > looks like it may give trouble (sort of) is aligning that top wing... I've > got Fritz Kemph's markings for this one, and I'm assuming it's going to be > easier all 'round to prepaint as much as possible... > > SO... newbie questions ahead... > > .1. What's everyone's favourite method of wing attachment? I'd mentioned > some time ago on rec.models.scale that the first biplane I'd built (well, > my dad and I) was a Jenny (jn.4, not dh.4, IIRC... ) and that one of the > nice things I do remember about the kit was that it came with a jig to > align and hold the wings until the glue on the struts had dried. (And if > anyone happens to remember a kit like that...) What's effective for folks > here? > > 2. I do have some Gunze paint, but my stocks now are mostly PollyScale, > AeroMaster (some) and MM Acryl II. Have we a WWI paint "cross reference" > hiding somewhere online? I know some exist for WWII colors, and I'm so > used to looking up RLM colors it's scary... > > 3. Paint, part II - I did see a review of this same kit at Modelling > Madness (yes, a regular stop, Tom, even before this prolific list!) and the > "streaked" finish was done with a rake brush there... I have no such beast, > of course, so other suggestions for this from anyone would be helpful. > (Jumping the gun, a bit, I know...) > > Thanks for the suggestions on other kits, as well... I do have one Eduard > (I think I menitoned this) Albatros D.Va ("Mailed Gauntlet" markings) - the > other Fokker was the D.VIII (Hans Goerth bust, but I'm digging through some > figure sites to figure out how to paint this decently.) > > -Eric > Who's probably going to tackle that DR.1 next, then.... > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:59:04 +0200 From: "Neil Crawford" To: Subject: Revell SE5 Message-ID: <200007122004.WAA14344@mb03.swip.net> I've had some time to spare and been reading through the digests from the beginning of the year, I'd really recommend it to any other newbies. Thats an amazing amount of useful information, I'm getting more and more addicted, I only regret I didn't cotton on to the list years ago, I've been wasting my life! One of the subjects around the beginning of the year was lists of "most wanted" kits, one of the requests was for a 1/72 SE5, now I've always thought that the Revell kit was one of the best in the series, without ever getting round to building it, am I wrong? Due to all this list reading I'm getting inspired to build WW1 rather than racers, but the Oxford-Cambridge Air race with SE5's would combine the best of both worlds. So is there anything wrong with the Revell SE5? /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:17:50 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Revell SE5 Message-ID: Neil asks: "So is there anything wrong with the Revell SE5?" Actually, it is one of the few 1/72 planes I've built, and I recall it as being pretty close to those plans that were available in the early 80s. IIRC, only the underside of the fuselage needed serious help, after the "fabric weave" was removed. It is an SE5a, of course. Am I remembering it wrong? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:38:06 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Voss' F.1 Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D3B4@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Merrill says: > Rotary engines were notoriously short lived, Voss had that > tripe for two > months, and may have had more than one engine change, he had > a lot of hours > in the air during that period. Just a FWIW. Merrill is correct in so far as the aircraft Fokker F.1 103/17 *did* have a Le Rhone engine fitted at one point. It was shot down with 110hp le Rhone T6247J fitted on 23/9/17 (or for the 'merkins 9/23/17) according to the Int. report. But he never received it until late August, and was absent testing the V.5 for 10 or 11 days, so at most had the aircraft for 1 month, and used it for three weeks. AFAIK there are no photos showing the aircraft with the le Rhone fitted, so DB can rest easilly having chosen to use the Oberursal Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:56:45 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for Message-ID: <002601bfec4c$13049400$0a0c56d1@default> Mark writes: Particularly when it comes to our children never let it be said that models are just for those icky boys. MVJ You got that right Bud! sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:57:12 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Hey, all you Canadians! Message-ID: I see where John has now convinced Elly that they could purchase Lilliputs, and is already planning a train display in the front window, as well as a good supply of hobby and crafts materials in the shop. I'm sure a dentist who has installed a steam railroad in his front yard will completely understand you WW1 loonies, and they'll be quite likely to order and carry a complete line of Eduard kits, OT paints and decals, etc., so long as you all frequent the store frequently. So all you up north there, remember to support your local Lilliputs, eh? (Those who don't read "For Better Or For Worse" can lift their jaws back into position and are hereby excused from the pop quiz. :-)) TC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:01:03 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <61.54a537d.269e449f@aol.com> In a message dated 7/12/00 1:06:36 PM EST, mkendix@hotmail.com writes: << As for going to a golf store, that would be my idea of purgatory. >> It'd be my idea of one step beyond. I might have caddied at the Cherry Hills Country Club and gotten a whole dollar tip from President Eisenhower personally as one of the 20 kids who got to caddy for his visit to "The Western White House", but I'd still prefer watching oil-base enamel dry in a high-humidity environment to another round of that silly game. (and all you duffers can just avoid the hitting thw "reply" button here, now, to each his own brand of poison, ok? :-)) TC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:43:22 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Hey, all you Canadians! Message-ID: Actually Tom I know a doctor here who's a train nut. . .and there's a hobby store on the market. . .hmmm, I wonder if I should send a copy of the cartoon to him ;-) MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:17:04 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: "List" Subject: Eduards Message-ID: <002601bfec4e$eb447680$302eb8a1@darcy> Has anyone heard any further news on the release of Eduards Nie 11 or Sopwith Camel? dale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:18:04 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Peace Offering Message-ID: <9b.7aa7702.269e489c@aol.com> Here's a peace offering from the S.S. Mercury Retrograde. :-) Since you all know how much I liiiiiiike idiots... IDIOTS AT WORK... I was signing the receipt for my credit card purchase when the clerk noticed that I had never signed my name on the back of the credit card. She informed me that she could not complete the transaction unless the card was signed. When I asked why, she explained that it was necessary to compare the signature on the credit card with the signature I just signed on the receipt. So I signed the credit card in front of her. She carefully compared that signature to the one I signed on the receipt. As luck would have it, they matched. ADVICE FOR IDIOTS... An actual tip from page 16 of the HP "Environmental, Health & Safety Handbook for Employees: "Blink your eyelids periodically to lubricate your eyes." IDIOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD... I live in a semi-rural area. We recently had a new neighbor call the local township administrative office to request the removal of the Deer Crossing sign on our road. The reason: Many deer were being hit by cars and he no longer wanted them to cross there. IDIOTS IN FOOD SERVICE... My daughter went to a local Taco Bell and ordered a taco. She asked the individual behind the counter for "minimal lettuce. "He said he was sorry, but they only had iceberg. IDIOTS IN THE NEWS... Buffalo Channel 4 News on October 20th,1999 informed its captivated audience that when selling their computer, the best way to erase the files on your computers hard drive is by drilling a hole in the drive its self! "By drilling a hole in the drive itself, you make it impossible for the new owner to get your files." No kidding, idiot! IDIOT SIGHTINGS... Sighting #1: I was at the airport, checking in at the gate, when the airport employee asked, "Has anyone put anything in your baggage without your knowledge?" I said, "If it was without my knowledge, how would I know? "He smiled and nodded knowingly, "That's why we ask." Sighting #2: The stoplight on the corner buzzes when it is safe to cross the street. I was crossing with an intellectually challenged co-worker of mine, when she asked if I knew what the buzzer was for. I explained that it signals to blind people when the light is red. She responded, appalled, "What on earth are blind people doing driving?" Sighting #3: At a good-bye lunch for an old and dear coworker who is leaving the company due to "downsizing," our manager spoke up and said, "this is fun. We should have lunch like this more often." Not another word was spoken. We just looked at each other like deer staring into the headlights of an approaching truck. Sighting #4: I worked with an individual who plugged her power strip back into itself and for the life of her could not understand why her system would not turn on. Sighting #5: When my husband and I arrived at an automobile dealership to pick up our car, we were told that the keys had been accidentally locked in it. We went to the service department and found a mechanic working feverishly to unlock the driver's side door. As I watched from the passenger's side, I instinctively tried the door handle and discovered it was open." Hey," I announced to the technician, "It's open!" "I know," answered the young man.- "I already got that side." Sighting #6: I work in a hospital and one day the doctor and I were asking a pregnant lady some questions upon admission to the maternity ward. When we asked her who we should call in case of an emergency, she stated "911". Sighting #7: My daughter was going over to the neighbors house to visit but didn't want to miss a call from her boyfriend so she took the cordless phone with her. While at the neighbors she wanted to check back at home to see if her younger brother was okay. My daughter then picked up the neighbors phone and dialed our number. While waiting for someone to answer the phone at home, the phone she brought over with her began to ring. She immediately hung up the neighbors phone and answered our phone. There was no one there. She wanted to know who it was who called so she used our phone to call our house. The line was busy. Getting very frustrated she left the neighbors to go home and see who was on the phone. No one was on the phone. My daughter could not figure out what was going on until someone explained it to her. Sighting #8: As systems manager of an answering service a few years back I had the pleasure of working with an especially ignorant doctor. Our system was trying to fax her messages to her place of business when a message came back informing us her fax was out of paper. When I called her office and told her about this she replied, "Oh, I'm all out of bond paper. Could you fax me some?" I'm right on it, Babe. Sighting #9: I was in McDonalds one time when the lady in front of me ordered a cheeseburger and requested no cheese. Now I don't know about you but that sounds like a hamburger to me. Sighting #10: Many years ago I worked in a delicatessen. The assistant manager had burnt something in the oven and smoke was pouring from the kitchen area. When the store manager came by and asked why she hadn't opened the emergency fire exit door to allow the smoke to go outside she said, "I thought about it but I couldn't find the key!" Sighting #11: I was sitting at my University bar with some friends the other day when we overheard a man talking on his mobile phone. He was saying that he wanted to "buy, buy, buy" some shares and "sell, sell, sell" some shares. Unfortunately for him, his mobile phone actually began to ring!!! The laughter in the bar was heard for miles!! Now that's what I call an IDIOT! Sighting #13: Calling the telecommunication company to inform them my phone didn't work and that when I picked up the receiver its completely dead, the technician said from the other end "Are you calling from the number of the phone that does not work?" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:26:42 -0700 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <005e01bfec69$6876ca80$590b3ccc@oemcomputer> I looked at the original D.VII kit with Udet bust and it gave 2 diff side panels. Maybe if it was reissued, Rosemont would reissue his resin conversion side panels & early nose? Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue >TC, I have the original issue, and it DOES NOT have different side pieces. >Merrill > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:44:51 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series Message-ID: I'm not an expert but I would have thought the engineering problems of getting what is in effect two engines rotating in opposite directions around a common shaft would be very interesting. And if they rotated at the same speed the prop wouldn't move at all. How would you start the thing? My reference supports the >> single-bank engine - counter-rotated with the PROP. The gearing reduced the prop rotation rate, and also the gyroscopic forces. Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: Shane Weier > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:34:09 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series > > DB says: > > >> I have the new German and Austrian planes book, and it's neat >> how they claim >> that the SSW's engine was a two-bank radial, and that the two banks >> counter-rotated - I always heard that the engine was a >> single-bank engine >> and counter-rotated with the PROP. Hmmmm. >> > > And I think it's a *third* way - the prop rotates one way and the single > engine bank rotates the other. > > Shane > > (practicing to be a Heretic) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:44:52 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: How to hide sins Message-ID: Use their own reason for buying things. "Look what I got in the sale dear, look how much money I've saved" Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "dfernet0" > Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:49:42 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: How to hide sins > > WELL WELL WELL... > The count goes like this: > - Ask merchandise from Tbilisi manufacturers via Kuala Lumpur... > Flaw: wife/husband will eventually learn about Tbilisi and the Kapusta > Robakami quadruplane and you'll need a new excuse. > > - Compare poetically the delicate nature of model kit with the delicate > nature of the beloved... > Flaw: This compliment doesn't work very well when building armor or a fokker > aircraft. > > - Find a hobby for him/her and spoil each other so everyone can live > peacefully > Flaw: the other can spend more money in his hobby than us. Very dangerous. > > -Hide two or three kits in the same box. > Flaw: there was some cases of Albatros fighters with brisfit undercarriages > and spad radiators.... > > - Sell the occasional model and tell that's where your fortune is. > Flaw: You can't hang all your models from the bedroom ceiling. > > - Create a network of mailorders capable of confuse and blur any watch > system > Flaw: Even you can't keep track of the orders > > - Use the kid's college fund to buy modelling stuff > Flaw: Eventually, the kids will grow to college and the excuse won't work > anymore. > > D. > thinking... thinking... > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:51:24 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Voss' F.1 Message-ID: <002c01bfec53$d79b8ec0$4a96aec7@dora9sprynet.com> -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 4:40 PM Subject: RE: Voss' F.1 >Merrill says: > > >> Rotary engines were notoriously short lived, Voss had that >> tripe for two >> months, and may have had more than one engine change, he had >> a lot of hours >> in the air during that period. > >Just a FWIW. > >Merrill is correct in so far as the aircraft Fokker F.1 103/17 *did* have a >Le Rhone engine fitted at one point. It was shot down with 110hp le Rhone >T6247J fitted on 23/9/17 (or for the 'merkins 9/23/17) according to the Int. >report. > >But he never received it until late August, and was absent testing the V.5 >for 10 or 11 days, so at most had the aircraft for 1 month, and used it for >three weeks. > >AFAIK there are no photos showing the aircraft with the le Rhone fitted, so >DB can rest easilly having chosen to use the Oberursal > >Shane > Whew! Just trying to get it right, Man! DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:43:10 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: How to hide sins Message-ID: <007401bfec5a$f06f48e0$0a0c56d1@default> D.VII sez that one should never mention cash in relation to new aquisitions. Barter is fine, cash requires an explaination. D.VII goes on to point out that when I tell her how much of a bargain something was, dont waste the breath without showing her the change...in cash. Better "bargains" generate fewer questions. D.VII by the way is my wife Sonia. The nickname came from a comment on the List a few years back about the Wylam drawings of the Fok. D.VII. Somebody observed that they were "a bit pudgy behind the cockpit and kinda fat in the rear side view." I mentioned that description also fit my wife and so the name stuck. It struck her as funny and she accepted it with the perfunctory middle finger salute that is a trademark of hers. She can (and frequently does) recite every single transgression I have ever committed, but she leaves my modelng pretty much alone, growling something about if it weren't for me spending so much time modeling, she'd have to shoot me to put both of us out of our misery. sp Who has it better than he deserves. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:54:13 -0700 From: E McCann To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000712165358.00a9dc90@mail.harborside.com> At 01:22 PM 7/12/00 -0400, you wrote: >Well... > > Lemme give y'all a little tip here: why not contact Hasegawa, as last >year they released the DML D.VII under their own banner - same kit, same >PE, just different markings (Berthold, IIRC). DML is too busy cranking out >their Luftwaffe stuff. After all, wouldn't you rather build a Gotha >(Horten) flying wing? But I did build that wing already.... -Eric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:18:40 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Eduards Albatros C-3 1/48 Message-ID: <6c.1134487.269e64e0@aol.com> Hi Gang Anyone have one of these? I have a customer whom just picked one up. But is missing the page with the instruction on the P/E Parabellum gun assembly. I some one has one, could you send me a scan please of that page. ( off list of course) my e-mail ; bstett3770@aol.com Thanks Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:08:32 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Eduards Message-ID: In a message dated 7/12/00 5:18:38 PM EST, lozenge1@telusplanet.net writes: << Has anyone heard any further news on the release of Eduards Nie 11 or Sopwith Camel? >> October or so for the Nieuport, December for the Camel. But don't hold me or them to that schedule. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:13:51 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Worth checking out Message-ID: In a message dated 6/26/00 3:44:25 PM EST, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << Take a look at Tim Pivonka's great models in this mini-gallery over at HyperScale. Photos are by Bob Norgren. >> Some more pictures of Tim's models appeared on the back cover of Windsock Vol 12/6 Dec 1996. (FE2b, Han CL III, and SPAD XIII) I know both Tim and Bob, they are both fine gentlemen as well as great modellers. Skippy ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2461 **********************