WWI Digest 2460 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: List Members in Dallas Area by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 2) Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 3) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by Peter Leonard 4) Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for by "Michael Kendix" 5) Re: IPMS-Dallas by "Lance Krieg" 6) Seven Swabians Redux by "Lance Krieg" 7) Reccomended ot Site by Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com 8) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by "Dale Beamish" 9) RE: How to hide sins by "dfernet0" 10) Re: I suspect it's happened to everybody by Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com 11) Sneaking Models into the House by Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com 12) 一条电话线，30台电脑上网 by "isdn" 13) RE: Sneaking Models into the House by "dfernet0" 14) Sneaking models into the house by MAnde72343@aol.com 15) Re: List Members in Dallas Area by Albatrosdv@aol.com 16) RE: How to hide sins by "Lance Krieg" 17) Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for by Albatrosdv@aol.com 18) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by "DAVID BURKE" 19) Re: Sneaking Models into the House by "DAVID BURKE" 20) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by Albatrosdv@aol.com 21) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by Albatrosdv@aol.com 22) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by MAnde72343@aol.com 23) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by Albatrosdv@aol.com 24) Laskodi's Albatros D.II at MM by Albatrosdv@aol.com 25) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by "Michael Kendix" 26) Re: Voss' F.1 by Sharon Henderson 27) Re: List Members in Dallas Area by Sharon Henderson 28) Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue by "DAVID BURKE" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:58:21 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: Re: List Members in Dallas Area Message-ID: <396C5D5D.8CB425DE@tac.com.au> Sharon wrote: >> However, my previous post was a backlash to a comment made earlier about sending a listmember's distaff to Harrods -- her museum -- as a means to enable a trip to something OnTopic. As a card-carrying member of the Sisterhood, I have to say I winced at that. ;-) << As did I. Tom, you have said that you personally know female modellers, there are others who you have "met" through this list and other fora.... HOW can you then make such a sweeping generalisation!! Besides that, any modeller should not turn down a trip to a department store..... apart from the fact that any good store has a book dept, there are also the cosmetics, sewing and hardware depts to be plundered for additions to the modeller's toolbox ;-) Regards Lorna Sisterhood of WW1 Modellers ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:38:15 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for Message-ID: Diego wrote; "Come on, married listees, tell us how do we have to do to hide our innocent >"sins" (sorry Sharon!) First of all make sure said partner has a hobby of her own. In my case I model, she quilts which mean we each take an interest in each others work at least to the point of smiling encouragingly (if, admittedly a little vacantly) when the other proudly presents the latest finished project. Second by tacit agreement we both turn a blind eye when it comes to amassing the tools for our hobby. . .I don't complain about mountains of fabric and unfinished quilts, she remains mute on the teetering stacks of unbuilt kits and the graveyard of half built kits. And most importantly never ever swap war stories on how much each of you spend on said hobbies. As an additional aid, practice stuffing more than one kit in a box. I have a friend who while still at the hobby store can fit three kits into one box, sprues, instructions and decals. That way you're set up for the 'but I only bought one kit this time,' line. Sure you sacrifice the box art on a coupole but it's a small price to pay for peace. I do, however, agree whole heartedly with Sharon (no warning shots required here). While my wife is not interested in my modeling, she is something of a history buff. Talk about the person who flew a particular plane and she's all ears. The other thing is my five year old daughter Alex who has already expressed an interesting in "Daddy's toys." Last model show we picked her up a small Starfix lawn dart which we're planning to build over the summer holidays. Particularly when it comes to our children never let it be said that models are just for those icky boys. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:11:27 +0100 From: Peter Leonard To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <396C606F.5A3D2B8A@cwcom.net> A peak at the DML website is particularly depressing, unless you are into action figures or pre-assembled airliners that is. But, as somebody already mentioned, all four OT kits are listed for 2000 so let's be a little more optomistic than DML's reply suggests. Could be this is the guy who gets to know everything last. No, wait a minute, that's me cheers Peter L Charles and Linda Duckworth wrote: > Well, I received a quick respond from DML on re-issuing the > DVII......perhaps additional emails from the list members will 'help' them > on "...study the possibility.." > Charlie > > >Dear Sir, > > > >Thanks for your continuous support to Dragon's model kits. We are glad to > >learn your interest towards our Fokker DVII, however we are afraid it may > >not so easy for us to re-release the mentioned aircraft becasue all of the > >producion line has been scheduled for the upcoming release. Anyway, we will > >study the possibility and keep you posted on this. > > > >Best regards > >Dragon Models ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 05:18:43 PDT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for Message-ID: <20000712121843.9768.qmail@hotmail.com> >In a message dated 7/11/00 2:20:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >lordfernettix@hotmail.com writes: > ><< Come on, married listees, tell us how do we have to do to hide our >innocent > "sins" (sorry Sharon!) > D. >> > Diego: Personally, I think it's best to have a number of conduits. If stuff is arriving from different directions; USPS, UPS, you etc.; the "Trouble & Strife" cannot keep watch in every direction at once. Also, to hide the financial outflow, use different sources of funds. One good one is to rob the kids' college fund; she won't be checking on that for at least a decade and by that time, it's too late. Nothing wrong with the local community college in any case:) Michael ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:20:41 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: IPMS-Dallas Message-ID: Marc volunteers: "I know I'm going out there and I wouldn't mind having company. "I was planning on doing this Thursday or Friday morning. Anybody want a ride?" I'll tag along; either day works for me. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:25:28 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Seven Swabians Redux Message-ID: For whomever was considering ta model of this machine: I was browsing Vol 6, # 4 of Over the Front, wherein I found three large, clear photos of this plane: two port, one starboard. The pictures were clear enough to almost tempt one to start guessing the colors... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:04:04 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Reccomended ot Site Message-ID: Speaking of the USS San Francisco... This guy served aboard her too as the observer in her seaplane. Quite a good story. http://www.commpro.com/navy/contents.html I know it's ot, but it is aviation. This guy witnessed so many of the major events in the Pacific. He was at Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941 as well as one of the early Americans to besent to Japan after the surrender. Later! Brent bucky@ptdprolog.net@pease1.sr.unh.edu on 07/11/2000 08:27:07 PM Please respond to wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Sent by: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list cc: Subject: Re: an )t) TV recommendation I went to a lecture at the Smithsonian this weekend in DC. Joe Foss gave a great 1 1/2 hour talk on Marine aviation over Guadalcanal. I came away amazed at how people and events I had read about, he had actually known and participated in. While just about all the WWI vets are now gone, we are also fast losing those who won WWII. Find them now and talk to them. Mike Muth Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: I like going out to > the PoF museum, like I did last December when the Pearl Harbor Survivors were > there, and running across an old guy with "USS San Francisco" on his hat, and > asking him if he was aboard her at Guadalcanal, and listening to this old > ship's company Marine tell me about coming down onto the bridge after they > were hit and seeing "hamburger, nothing but hamburger there," and then > careening out of control through the Japanese fleet. It's the story of the > people who were there, not the "designated heroes" that interests me now, > because it's those stories multiplied in their thousands that is the real > truth. > > Bringing this back OT, wouldn't it have been nice if they could have done a > show like this back in 1960, with veterans of the Somme??? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:11:27 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <004c01bfec0c$85001100$5634b8a1@darcy> That's the exact response I received back as well. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles and Linda Duckworth To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 12 July, 2000 5:09 AM Subject: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue > Well, I received a quick respond from DML on re-issuing the > DVII......perhaps additional emails from the list members will 'help' them > on "...study the possibility.." > Charlie > > > >Dear Sir, > > > >Thanks for your continuous support to Dragon's model kits. We are glad to > >learn your interest towards our Fokker DVII, however we are afraid it may > >not so easy for us to re-release the mentioned aircraft becasue all of the > >producion line has been scheduled for the upcoming release. Anyway, we will > >study the possibility and keep you posted on this. > > > >Best regards > >Dragon Models > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:41:13 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: How to hide sins Message-ID: <006f01bfec0f$3ab0e7c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> WELL WELL WELL... The count goes like this: - Ask merchandise from Tbilisi manufacturers via Kuala Lumpur... Flaw: wife/husband will eventually learn about Tbilisi and the Kapusta Robakami quadruplane and you'll need a new excuse. - Compare poetically the delicate nature of model kit with the delicate nature of the beloved... Flaw: This compliment doesn't work very well when building armor or a fokker aircraft. - Find a hobby for him/her and spoil each other so everyone can live peacefully Flaw: the other can spend more money in his hobby than us. Very dangerous. -Hide two or three kits in the same box. Flaw: there was some cases of Albatros fighters with brisfit undercarriages and spad radiators.... - Sell the occasional model and tell that's where your fortune is. Flaw: You can't hang all your models from the bedroom ceiling. - Create a network of mailorders capable of confuse and blur any watch system Flaw: Even you can't keep track of the orders - Use the kid's college fund to buy modelling stuff Flaw: Eventually, the kids will grow to college and the excuse won't work anymore. D. thinking... thinking... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:33:27 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I suspect it's happened to everybody Message-ID: Howdy! I lost the top wing to my Toko Snipe. It was painted and everything. After searching for it for several days I decided to just pick up another kit. Since the new wing needed to be painted I pulled out my reference book. The book fell open to a certain page and there was my original wing. I can't imagine why I would have used it for a bookmark, but apparently I did. Oh well, I wound up using the extra decals anyway. Later! Brent Albatrosdv@aol.com@pease1.sr.unh.edu on 07/11/2000 11:53:29 AM Please respond to wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Sent by: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list cc: Subject: Re: I suspect it's happened to everybody In a message dated 7/11/00 8:07:46 AM EST, aew@pease1.sr.unh.edu writes: << Modeling for me is all about disasters, or rather recovery from them. >> Of late, I have been mislaying things and having to spend a considerable amount of time finding them. Not talking about little things like throttle quadrants, either. I could not find the wing (admittedly small on this one) of a certain ot lawn dart the other day for about 20 minutes, till I looked *under* the instruction sheet on the workbench. :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:46:51 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sneaking Models into the House Message-ID: Howdy! I have an accomplis. My oldest daughter knows when a package arrives in the mail to take it directly to the workbench area and to stash it. This has only failed a few times. Mostly when the postman arrives late and my wife goes out to get the mail or the daughter isn't home to intercept the package. You can also get a job out of state and have everything mailed there. The only problem is when you move back home. You have to explain why your kit collection doubled while you were away. This also isn't foolproof. I recently bought $100 worth of stuff from Copper State Models and had Eric send the order to Minnesota. Unfortunately my wife found the Visa bill. "$100 to Copper State?!" she exclaimed. In my most soothing voice I attempted to explain how frugal I was by getting two kits for that price. "YOU ONLY GOT TWO MEASELY AIRPLANES FOR $100?!?!?".... It went downhill from there. She was deaf to my explanations of resin, limited run, quality ain't cheap etc. For a moment I was glad I was in Minnesota. This reminds me of another point. Why do certain mail order companies have to stamp their logos all over the package? A plain kraft brown carton would be much easier to explain. This is a fun thread! Later! 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Unfortunately my wife found the Visa bill. > "$100 to Copper State?!" she exclaimed. We may convince Eric to declare his invoices as "Foundation for the Scale Challenged People" or something like that. that way we can hide our kits under a camouflage of charity... But frankly.... Have you never read a police novel, Brent? The suspect ALWAYS get caught if he uses the credit card! D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:57:18 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Sneaking models into the house Message-ID: I haven't had to sneak models into the house since I was a kid, (my father loathed ''plastic junk'', although he gave up on objecting, after several years and numerous beatings). I didn't have time to model during college and the Army, and didn't start up again until a year after my divorce was final ( and I had a discretionary income again) None of my married friends seem to have any problems, (with the exception of Brent), is this really a problem? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:02:16 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List Members in Dallas Area Message-ID: <6d.66a6ab0.269dfe98@aol.com> In a message dated 7/12/00 6:58:56 AM EST, sljenkins@tac.com.au writes: << HOW can you then make such a sweeping generalisation!! >> Once again: you two, and other female modelers I know, *never* were in the generalization!! The generalization regarded *non*-modelers who fail to understand/see the importance of modeling to the modeler. Female modelers are as likely to suffer this problem as males, and could send their non-understanding other half to a golf store (the equivalent of a department store) or something while doing what they enjoy without apology. OK?????? Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:02:13 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: How to hide sins Message-ID: You spineless snivelers need to stand up for your right dispense your hard-earned money in any way that seems appropriate. Consider my approach, as I carry in armloads of loot: "Honey, buzz down to the garage and help me haul in my hobby purchases. I've got to get to the post office to pick up the packages that were too big to deliver. "Boy, we're broke! Have you considered getting a second night job?" Ya gotta establish the ground-rules BEFORE the game starts. This has worked for me on three successive spouses, so I can't imagine how other list members keep running into problems... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:08:57 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for Message-ID: In a message dated 7/12/00 7:07:00 AM EST, mvj@thetelegram.com writes: << I do, however, agree whole heartedly with Sharon (no warning shots required here). While my wife is not interested in my modeling, she is something of a history buff. >> Exactly the kind of person I was thinking of (including the quilting hobby) when describing a "tolerant/supportive" spouse. The ones who I was thinking of for "the generalization" are part of the kind of couple that you scratch your head and say "what got them together?" - or at least I do. Even back in my dim 20s, I had a clue that you should be sure that the person you were thinking of being involved with should at least tolerate your eccentricities. And I now stop posting to this subject, deeply regretting having stepped in it to begin with (must have been the day I had a "difference of opinion" with the other half). Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:09:51 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <000801bfec24$000a0e20$d897aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Well... Lemme give y'all a little tip here: why not contact Hasegawa, as last year they released the DML D.VII under their own banner - same kit, same PE, just different markings (Berthold, IIRC). DML is too busy cranking out their Luftwaffe stuff. After all, wouldn't you rather build a Gotha (Horten) flying wing? DB -----Original Message----- From: Charles and Linda Duckworth To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:07 AM Subject: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue >Well, I received a quick respond from DML on re-issuing the >DVII......perhaps additional emails from the list members will 'help' them >on "...study the possibility.." >Charlie > > >>Dear Sir, >> >>Thanks for your continuous support to Dragon's model kits. We are glad to >>learn your interest towards our Fokker DVII, however we are afraid it may >>not so easy for us to re-release the mentioned aircraft becasue all of the >>producion line has been scheduled for the upcoming release. Anyway, we will >>study the possibility and keep you posted on this. >> >>Best regards >>Dragon Models > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:13:48 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Sneaking Models into the House Message-ID: <008501bfec25$902a4e60$d897aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Yeah, but with the nice stuff that Eric makes, it's worth the punishment.... DB -----Original Message----- From: dfernet0 To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:56 AM Subject: RE: Sneaking Models into the House >Brent confessed: >> I recently bought $100 worth of stuff from Copper State Models and had >Eric >> send the order to Minnesota. Unfortunately my wife found the Visa bill. >> "$100 to Copper State?!" she exclaimed. > >We may convince Eric to declare his invoices as "Foundation for the Scale >Challenged People" or something like that. that way we can hide our kits >under a camouflage of charity... >But frankly.... Have you never read a police novel, Brent? The suspect >ALWAYS get caught if he uses the credit card! >D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:29:24 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <25.838e43b.269e04f4@aol.com> In a message dated 7/12/00 12:20:06 PM EST, dora9@sprynet.com writes: << why not contact Hasegawa, as last year they released the DML D.VII under their own banner - same kit, same PE, >> The one thing about the Hasegawa release, as mentioned in my review at MM, is that it only does the D.VIIf. The kit to get is the original release, with Raben's airplane on the box art, because it has the different side panels for the original Fokker-built airplane and the OAW-built version. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:31:57 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <74.10f273c.269e058d@aol.com> In a message dated 7/12/00 12:20:06 PM EST, dora9@sprynet.com writes: << why not contact Hasegawa, as last year they released the DML D.VII under their own banner - same kit, same PE, >> One other item of note: the second Hasegawa kit I got had - believe it or not - *wing ripple* in the upper wing! Given the kind of wing detail there, it was much easier to deal with than would be the case with a BM-type of wing detail. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:39:44 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <17.81c79f8.269e0760@aol.com> TC, I have the original issue, and it DOES NOT have different side pieces. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:46:15 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: In a message dated 7/12/00 12:42:19 PM EST, MAnde72343@aol.com writes: << TC, I have the original issue, and it DOES NOT have different side pieces. Merrill >> Well, well - I remember seeing this release with a sprue of different side panels. I wish I had bought it at the time, but didn't. If the kit gets re-released, perhaps we can get someone like Cyg to make these panels. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:48:09 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Laskodi's Albatros D.II at MM Message-ID: <6.89b7bc0.269e0959@aol.com> Those who are interested can drop by Modeling Madness and click What's New to see Bob's write-up on the Albatros D.II conversion. He also mentions (with hyperlinks) the Great Albatros Cook-Up, which is excellent publicity for the project. http://modelingmadness.com Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:04:18 PDT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <20000712180418.85333.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: Albatrosdv@aol.com > >One other item of note: the second Hasegawa kit I got had - believe >it or >not - *wing ripple* in the upper wing! > Yes, right! Have you been eating that mouldy rye bread again, Tom? I've heard it makes the whole room sort of look like it's rippling! As for going to a golf store, that would be my idea of purgatory. I'd much rather be at Harrods or even Nieman Marcus. Michael ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:22:49 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Voss' F.1 Message-ID: And I'd have been happy to hold your arm steady. :-) I think another whole book could be written that explicates all of Weyl's inaccuracies. .. I remember coming across that book when first doing the background research on my Wolff article for OTF. Thank God our Bob Pearson and Peter Kilduff offered to give the article a good read-through before I sent it in.... I'd have been so embarrassed to have perpetuated the myth of Platz designing the D.R. I, and the whole Fokker feud thing.... But then, that's one of the things for which I prize this list. We're a well-read and often difficult to convince bunch -- and that has got to be good for the hobby and the field as a whole! Sharon ><< God, I wish someone had shot Weyl at birth > > Shane > >> > > I would've pulled the trigger. >RK > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:54:42 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List Members in Dallas Area Message-ID: Tom darling, don't snap. It's very Mercury retrograde of you. ;-) At the risk of incurring wrath and the accusation that this forum is another place where a man cannot say what he really wants to say because there are "girls present", I would just like to point out: it is too easy for ANY of us to make some frigging generalization that has no place being made among people who are friends, and who like each other. It always shocks me that people think manners ought to be reserved for how we behave in front of strangers -- and at "home", so to speak, we can behave just as poorly as we wish. Manners should be reserved for the people we care about, BEFORE being used for strangers. So, if we use our manners for our kinfolks here, we won't make sweeping generalizations about where someone comes from (For example: well, he's just a Yank, don't you know, and wasn't raised right....) or what gender one happens to be (girls tie fishing lures better than guys because they pay attention to details...) or how well-read they happen to be (can't you SEE that's a silly source to use, you git???) Any of those things can be said in other ways, without being a backlash thing. Let's all face it -- in this day and age, FEW of us taste our words before we spit them out, and then we are astonished that people didn't read our minds, to know what we REALLY meant. and if I have *anything* about which I will climb into the pulpit and rage, that is it.... Where did this soapbox come from, and how on earth did *I* get on top of it?? ;-) Climbing down now, Sharon At Wednesday, 12 July 2000, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/12/00 6:58:56 AM EST, sljenkins@tac.com.au writes: > ><< HOW can you then make such a sweeping generalisation!! >> > >Once again: you two, and other female modelers I know, *never* were in the >generalization!! The generalization regarded *non*-modelers who fail to >understand/see the importance of modeling to the modeler. Female modelers >are as likely to suffer this problem as males, and could send their >non-understanding other half to a golf store (the equivalent of a department >store) or something while doing what they enjoy without apology. > >OK?????? > >Tom > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:04:39 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue Message-ID: <000e01bfec34$120c1720$1495aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Ahh, I see. Well, couldn't then one get the Eduard Fokker D.VII set to get the different panels? DB -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: Re: My note back from DML on Fokker DVII reissue >In a message dated 7/12/00 12:20:06 PM EST, dora9@sprynet.com writes: > ><< why not contact Hasegawa, as last > year they released the DML D.VII under their own banner - same kit, same > PE, >> > >The one thing about the Hasegawa release, as mentioned in my review at MM, is >that it only does the D.VIIf. The kit to get is the original release, with >Raben's airplane on the box art, because it has the different side panels for >the original Fokker-built airplane and the OAW-built version. > >Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2460 **********************