WWI Digest 2458 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Workbench Pics by "dfernet0" 2) Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 3) Re: List Members in Dallas Area by "Sharon Henderson" 4) Letters to DML for Fok. D.VII reissue? by Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu 5) Re: List Members in Dallas Area by Albatrosdv@aol.com 6) Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for by "Diego Fernetti" 7) Re: Understanding partners (was List Members in Dallas Area) by Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu 8) Re: Fokker cowling by "DAVID BURKE" 9) Re: Fokkers F.I WAS: Silverbird's Dr.I scans by "DAVID BURKE" 10) Re: List members in Dallas area by "Tom Solinski" 11) Re: IPMS - Dallas by "DAVID BURKE" 12) RE: Fokker D.VII Lozenge by Shane Weier 13) Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series by "DAVID BURKE" 14) Re: Newbie Bio by "DAVID BURKE" 15) BACK IN THE SADDLE AGAIN!!! by "DAVID BURKE" 16) Voss' F.1 by "DAVID BURKE" 17) RE: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series by Shane Weier 18) RE: Voss' F.1 by Shane Weier 19) DML contact address by JVT7532@aol.com 20) Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series by "DAVID BURKE" 21) Re: Voss' F.1 by "DAVID BURKE" 22) How to hide sins by PolTexCW@aol.com 23) RE: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series by Shane Weier 24) Re: IPMS-Dallas by Marc Flake 25) Re: Wow ! by E McCann 26) Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series by "DAVID BURKE" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:03:56 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Workbench Pics Message-ID: <01a401bfeb73$253a3000$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> AHA! I also can picture you sneaking into your home with several kit boxes and/or books under your coat! ;-) D. Still unmarried.... > Well D, lets just say I was very selective as to what was shown to my wife. > Hey I'm not crazy enough to show her Matt's she'd never leave me alone. > Jon > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:37:02 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for Message-ID: <63.82ff107.269cdf6e@aol.com> Hey D, have you been hiding in my bushes? Usually I hide them in bags with the groceries after I do the shopping. You must be a P.I.! As for the work bench, I'm getting ready to move my computer table into the shop to use as a work bench, no on likes it for the computer anymore. Lots of room and shelves for models and tools on this baby. Oh yeah !!!!!!!!!! Now to get moving on my albatros. To the group, I am looking for a DML D.Vll Fokker for my Berthold project, I've been watching ebay for some time now and no luck. By chance does anyone have a spare or one they would be willing to part with? Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:42:54 -0400 From: "Sharon Henderson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List Members in Dallas Area Message-ID: <200007112046.QAA10448@minion.netpolicy.com> Mark wrote: ---------- > Sharon, > > No Harrod's. > > However, have you ever heard of Nieman-Marcus???? Yup. Over here in VA, we call them Needless-Markup. :-) However, my previous post was a backlash to a comment made earlier about sending a listmember's distaff to Harrods -- her museum -- as a means to enable a trip to something OnTopic. As a card-carrying member of the Sisterhood, I have to say I winced at that. ;-) The persistence of belief that women would never be interested in a military museum, or in anything "traditionally" a male concern, tends to get to me. It's all a matter of presentation, after all.... if my brother had insisted on sending me to look at "girl stuff" while he was doing his modelling thing, I would not now be on this list. ;-) Just a shot across the bow... not meant to draw blood. :-) Cheers, Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:54:45 -0400 From: Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Letters to DML for Fok. D.VII reissue? Message-ID: Should we all be writing letters to DML to get them to reissue the Fokker D.VII? I'm happy with 1/72, but I'd support those wanting this kit back out. DML (ad/or Dragon / Shanghai-Dragon) seems to reissue at a decent interval, so maybe some letters would prod them... (And no, I don't know who to write to.) Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:13:20 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List Members in Dallas Area Message-ID: In a message dated 7/11/00 3:43:01 PM EST, wolfchen@netpolicy.com writes: << The persistence of belief that women would never be interested in a military museum, or in anything "traditionally" a male concern, tends to get to me. It's all a matter of presentation, after all.... if my brother had insisted on sending me to look at "girl stuff" while he was doing his modelling thing, I would not now be on this list. ;-) Just a shot across the bow... not meant to draw blood. :-) >> Well, while maneuvering wildly to keep those shots off the bow and not on it, allow me to clarify myself, Sharon.... As is clear to anyone who reads many of the posts here, or listens to other modelers in real time at shows, or from one's own experience, the number of women who react as you do to this subject matter is not a large percentage of the overall in that category (and they who do are rare gems). And the number of men who do is also not a large percentage of the overall in the category, though likely a larger percentage than the first. My comment was regarding the "distaffs" of both sexes (believe me, many of the female modelers I know have the same problem with their husbands) who aren't interested and aren't likely to become interested, who begrudge each and every model that is created, yet think nothing of adding another pair of shoes pricier than the model, or another club to the bag of golf clubs, etc., etc. Those who find partners who do understand this stuff, or at least give it smiling toleration, should thank their lucky stars every day. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:17:01 GMT From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Workbench Pics aka also looking for Message-ID: <20000711211701.94806.qmail@hotmail.com> Jon wrote: >Hey D, have you been hiding in my bushes? He he he! I plan to do as you do if I get married... my girl is very conservative with the money... if not for her spending! Good one that of hiding the hobby shopping inside grocery bags. I'm taking note... Come on, married listees, tell us how do we have to do to hide our innocent "sins" (sorry Sharon!) D. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:30:40 -0400 From: Brian.Nicklas@nasm1.si.edu To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Understanding partners (was List Members in Dallas Area) Message-ID: >>Those who find partners who do understand this stuff, or at least give it >>smiling toleration, should thank their lucky stars every day. But she's an Aeronautical Engineer, likes to see the models when they are done, appreciates the history and the work - but is chemically sensitive, so no model building around her! Arrggghh! A completed model is no problem, but even going into a hobby shop gives her a bad time. So I agree with Tom on his last point. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:27:29 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Fokker cowling Message-ID: <00c401bfeb7f$e49e0b40$7e93aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Take a look at my Fokker E.III on the Gallery and if you like the look, I'll tell you how I did it.... DB -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Fokker cowling >IIRC there is an article on painting turned cowls in the november 1998 >Internet Modeler by the currently unsubscribed EtH. > >Bob > >---------- >>From: Dennis Ugulano >>To: Multiple recipients of list >>Subject: Fokker cowling >>Date: Thu, Jun 29, 2000, 5:36 am >> > >> Everyone, >> >> As # 100 sits waiting for the computer to return to life, I have >> been working on the ICM Fokker E.IV. >> >> I have a question. I think I saw it here a long time ago but I >> have forgotten the answer. What method do you use to make the sworl design >> in the metal parts of the Eindekker? I tried a couple of ways but failed >> miserably. Any help would be greatly appreciated. And no, I will not tell >> you about # 100 for the answer. :-) >> >> Dennis Ugulano >> email: Uggies@compuserve.com >> http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/DJU.HTM >> >> >> nb: ICM Fokker E.IV >> nu: Planet SPAD XI ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:31:58 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Fokkers F.I WAS: Silverbird's Dr.I scans Message-ID: <00c601bfeb7f$e630e040$7e93aec7@dora9sprynet.com> The tailplane on 103/17 is indeed VERY SLIGHTLY curved. DB nb: 1/28 Voss F.1 for Dallas. -----Original Message----- From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 12:09 AM Subject: Re: Fokkers F.I WAS: Silverbird's Dr.I scans >In a message dated 7/3/00 3:27:08 PM EST, steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk >writes: > ><< There is > one picture of F1 102/17 which shows a gently curved tailplane and balanced > elevators >> > >In the article on the Triplane in Air Enthusiast Quarterly #8, this >particular photo is right above the side shot of F.1 103/17, and that looks >like a straight-edge tail, tho it is at such an angle I sure wouldn't want to >make a major bet on it, but superimposing the two like that does give me a >feeling it is straight. > >FWIW > >Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:44:46 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: List members in Dallas area Message-ID: <001001bfeb81$3b1f9fa0$12330e18@okc1.ok.home.com> NO, but there IS the Galaria wihch should put that little o'le store in London to shame! Tom S, OKC, the correct side of the Red River ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Henderson To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 2:33 PM Subject: Re: List members in Dallas area > Batting her eyelashes "innocently" > > Is there a Harrod's in Dallas for us "distaff people" to visit while y'all > go do real stuff?? ;-) > > > Sharon, on behalf of > The Sisterhood of WW1 Modellers > ;-) > > > ---------- > > Since my timing is terrible (I will be in the Dallas area the week / > > weekend AFTER the nationals), I was wondering if any list members were > > interested in two decidedly off topic activities. Due to airfares that > > defy even Douglas Adams' Waiter's calculational logic, I will be staying in > > Plano through Sunday AM. > > > > I am thus planning to do two things in Dallas (other than get by Phil's > > hobbies, eat brisket barbecue, and drink Lone Star Beer). One is to head > > out to the Ballpark in Arlington to catch a Texas Rangers game, and the > > other is to get in a round of golf on Saturday. > > > > Any listees in the area baseball fans or golfers ? Let me know off list. > > > > Thanks > > > > Todd Henry > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:39:16 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: IPMS - Dallas Message-ID: <015b01bfeb80$b6348620$7e93aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey, I'll be there, so make sure that the Guinness is plentiful!! Will be at the convention Center on Thursday P.M. SP, when you showing up? Anyone? DB -----Original Message----- From: Brent_A_Theobald@seagate.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:14 AM Subject: Re: IPMS - Dallas > >Howdy! > >What day do ya'll want to get together? I am free all week. Plus I may drag >along a few WWI enthusiasts from Minnesota who are not currently list >members. > >Later! > >Brent > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:10:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Fokker D.VII Lozenge Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D3A4@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Tom says:(in reply to Lance) > << Tom, do you have a provenance for your assertation? >> > > There is at least one photo in the Squadron book that shows > an axle wing that sure looks lozenged. Probably the exception to prove the rule. I'd say it's *very* unusual. Using only the SS you'll easily detect that OAW axle wing fairings are usually (approx) half and half mauve and green for example. All fairings except the earliest are built to be easily removed from the axle - the longtitudinal split to allow this makes an overlay of fabric not only unneccessary but unlikely Shane (MHO, but the two recent Anthologies agree IIRC) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:43:18 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series Message-ID: <042f01bfeb85$26514020$7e93aec7@dora9sprynet.com> I have the new German and Austrian planes book, and it's neat how they claim that the SSW's engine was a two-bank radial, and that the two banks counter-rotated - I always heard that the engine was a single-bank engine and counter-rotated with the PROP. Hmmmm. DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:47:47 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Newbie Bio Message-ID: <043101bfeb85$28ad7fa0$7e93aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Welcome to the monkey-house from Birmingham, AL! DB -----Original Message----- From: Graham Hunter To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 11:41 AM Subject: Newbie Bio > > >Yes, I just subscribed at the beginning of the week. Just a bit about >myself... 37, married, two kids. I started model building when I was 8 (a >Ford Torino Funny Car). I worked with cars for a few years then got into the >mass production of jets, ships and men (army build-up against a couple of >school friends). Started serious building in my mid teen years, anything >from cars to SF space. Then did a stint with armour. I didn't do any >building for a few years and then in late '97 I found a kit of my very first >car ('67 Dodge Coronet) so I got back into the swing. Since Dec.99 I do WWI >aircraft only (did a few 72nd scale a few years back) in 1/48. I have only >done one so far - Eduard Sopwith Triplane-Black Prince. I have always had a >great interest in aeroplanes and WWI. Part of that interest comes from the >success of Canadians in WWI. I joined the local IPMS (Valour Road >Chapter-Winnipeg) in 1999. BTW we have two other WWI (exclusive) builders in >our chapter. I look forward to communicating with everyone on the list. It >has been quite enjoyable and interesting so far. >Regards, Graham > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:51:21 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: BACK IN THE SADDLE AGAIN!!! Message-ID: <043201bfeb85$2987b300$7e93aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Fellows, Well, my computer went kablooey about 2 1/2 weeks ago, but I'm back. I'll see those who are Dallas-bound when I get there next Thursday P.M. I have goodies too: tomorrow, I'll go get my Albatros D.Va from the shop case, take pics, and post 'em. I got my France pics back from the developers and the Germania prop and logo shots came out good, I'll hand them off to Allan as well. I'll also take pics of my Croix du Guerre that I bought there too. Good to be back! DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:12:26 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Voss' F.1 Message-ID: <043401bfeb85$2ce5d220$7e93aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hi Kids, Well, just to let you know that my fuselage is almost closed, the wings and tail are doctored, the engine has been detailed, and the prop nearly finished. Though I have searched my references, and find them to say that Voss tripe had a captured engine and prop, my pics CLEARLY show what looks to be an Oberursel and DEFINITELY an Axial prop. Any feedback? DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:29:54 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D3A5@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> DB says: > I have the new German and Austrian planes book, and it's neat > how they claim > that the SSW's engine was a two-bank radial, and that the two banks > counter-rotated - I always heard that the engine was a > single-bank engine > and counter-rotated with the PROP. Hmmmm. > And I think it's a *third* way - the prop rotates one way and the single engine bank rotates the other. Shane (practicing to be a Heretic) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:32:09 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Voss' F.1 Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D3A6@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> DB, > Though I have searched my references, and find them to > say that Voss > tripe had a captured engine and prop, my pics CLEARLY show > what looks to be > an Oberursel and DEFINITELY an Axial prop. Any feedback? Weird. The F.1 was so new I doubt he'd had time to wonder if another engine was better before he died. What reference? Sure they aren't confused with Jacobs? Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:48:29 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: DML contact address Message-ID: To anyone interested here is the URL for contact addresses uses by DML. Anyone who would like to contact DML about them reissueing their Fokker D.Vll. can find a bunch of different email addresses that could be used to let them know our wishes. http://www.dragon-models.com/html/wingsf.html Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:39:59 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series Message-ID: <001601bfeb89$59035220$3996aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Uhh, Shane me mate, that's what I said: the engine and prop counter-rotate. DB -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 5:31 PM Subject: RE: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series >DB says: > > >> I have the new German and Austrian planes book, and it's neat >> how they claim >> that the SSW's engine was a two-bank radial, and that the two banks >> counter-rotated - I always heard that the engine was a >> single-bank engine >> and counter-rotated with the PROP. Hmmmm. >> > >And I think it's a *third* way - the prop rotates one way and the single >engine bank rotates the other. > >Shane > >(practicing to be a Heretic) > > > > > > > > > > >************************************************************** >The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential >and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution >or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are >requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems >to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. >E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. >************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:42:49 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Voss' F.1 Message-ID: <001701bfeb89$59e6ad40$3996aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Nope. Imrie's book (IIRC) claims that the engine and prop were Allied. Or maybe another reference. But the shot in the new Osprey book (among others) of Voss standing in front of the cowl of his tripe shows an Oberursel and Axial. What I read was that the pilots were more secure with Allied engines than they were with the Oberursel. I say it's strange too, but that's what I read, and then again, that's what I saw, so that's how my F.1 is gonna be. Good to hear from you again! DB -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 5:34 PM Subject: RE: Voss' F.1 >DB, > > >> Though I have searched my references, and find them to >> say that Voss >> tripe had a captured engine and prop, my pics CLEARLY show >> what looks to be >> an Oberursel and DEFINITELY an Axial prop. Any feedback? > >Weird. The F.1 was so new I doubt he'd had time to wonder if another engine >was better before he died. What reference? Sure they aren't confused with >Jacobs? > >Shane > > > > > > > > >************************************************************** >The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential >and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution >or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are >requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems >to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. >E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. >************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 18:55:05 EDT From: PolTexCW@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: How to hide sins Message-ID: <9e.70d3ca4.269cffc9@aol.com> In a message dated 7/11/0 5:20:37 PM, lordfernettix@hotmail.com writes: >Come on, married listees, tell us how do we have to do to hide our innocent > >"sins" When your wife asks you what you would like for your birtyhday, aniversary etc., you tell her something to the effect that you would really love to have the new kit of a Schlagsahne Flugzueg 427gIV, manufactured by Dziugashvili in Tbilisi, and - if it's not too much to ask - those wonderful pamphlets just published concerning the aircraft of the Franco-Persian War by Tsuenta Yolopunda published by Menage a Trois in Kuala Lampur - the total cost of these items will be a mere twety dollars or so, but of course it will take many months for them to arrive - but that is no problem - it's worth the wait. If your wife is reasonably normal - as is mine - her eyes will have glazed over somewhere around Tbilisi, so that when you complete your peroration she will no doubt say something to this effect: "I have no idea how to order those things!" At which you gallantly offer to do it for her. When you have patiently built up a series of gift-receiving-events, and she is totally lost as to what she or may not have purchased for you, you can order stuff with abandon, and whenever a package arrives you simply exclaim something like: "On ho! The Kapusta z Robakami 843 Asymetrical Quadraplane that you bought me for Malcolm Muggeridge Day in 1996, has finally arrived from Miszkykiszky!" Thank her profusely, and ask her what she would like for next Red Ripe Raspberry Day. John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:05:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7115D3AA@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> DB, > Uhh, Shane me mate, that's what I said: the engine and prop > counter-rotate. > Doh. I misread it. Correct. But tell us more about the book than this nit.... Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:32:38 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: IPMS-Dallas Message-ID: <396BBCA6.28E5@airmail.net> Someone, Brent, I believe, was looking for a schedule of events to plan our get together. Here is the most up-to-date rundown: Thursday 7/20 Room 1 Ship Modeling Joe Damato 12:00 Models for Bosnia Floyd Werner 14:00 Real Space Sven Knudson 16:00 Aviation Jay Miller 18:00 Room 2 Figure Modeling Jack Kennedy 12:00 Auto Detailing Dennis Koelber 14:00 Friday 7/21 Room 1 Judging - Whys Aris Pappas 11:00 IPMS & Internet Ralph Forehand 13:00 Aircraft Research Bert Kinzey 15:00 Room 2 Armor Modeling Bruce Culver 11:00 Aircraft Detailing Bill Devins 13:00 Armor Detailing Jon Baker 15:00 Saturday 7/22 Room 2 Kit Collecting John Burns 09:00 Airbrush Bob Oehler 11:00 Weathering Armor Lee Thomas 13:00 Ship SIG/SMML Marc Flake 15:00 Room 1 Small Scale SIG Bludworth TBA (You'll notice I've got a room reserved for the members of the ship model mailing list who are attending. There are 30 attending and we felt this was the best way to meet as there aren't many restaurant tables in Dallas that will seat 30. I think we'd have to travel to Amarillo for that many to sit down at one table. BTW, there are rooms available Friday morning if WW1 listees want to meet for a "reception.") Also, I've contacted the Ferko Collection people out at the UT at Dallas. They would welcome any of us that want to come out and buy some of their "duplicates." But they have two conditions. Only two people at a time can browse the shelves, while the others waited by the information desk. And we need to let them know when we're coming so they can warn "researchers from around the world" who are using the collection. I know I'm going out there and I wouldn't mind having company. I can even wrangle the van from my wife for the day, so I could transport up to 7 WW1 Modelers to the university. I was planning on doing this Thursday or Friday morning. Anybody want a ride? Marc Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:32:25 -0700 From: E McCann To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Wow ! Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000711170951.00adc230@mail.harborside.com> Thanks for all the comments/suggestions, everyone. Looking at the DR.1 (which my wife actually spontaneously purchased for me, with about 3 other kits, at a hobby shop! And let me purchase about 3 others...) I see that, yes, there *is* quite a lack of rigging there. The only thing that looks like it may give trouble (sort of) is aligning that top wing... I've got Fritz Kemph's markings for this one, and I'm assuming it's going to be easier all 'round to prepaint as much as possible... SO... newbie questions ahead... .1. What's everyone's favourite method of wing attachment? I'd mentioned some time ago on rec.models.scale that the first biplane I'd built (well, my dad and I) was a Jenny (jn.4, not dh.4, IIRC... ) and that one of the nice things I do remember about the kit was that it came with a jig to align and hold the wings until the glue on the struts had dried. (And if anyone happens to remember a kit like that...) What's effective for folks here? 2. I do have some Gunze paint, but my stocks now are mostly PollyScale, AeroMaster (some) and MM Acryl II. Have we a WWI paint "cross reference" hiding somewhere online? I know some exist for WWII colors, and I'm so used to looking up RLM colors it's scary... 3. Paint, part II - I did see a review of this same kit at Modelling Madness (yes, a regular stop, Tom, even before this prolific list!) and the "streaked" finish was done with a rake brush there... I have no such beast, of course, so other suggestions for this from anyone would be helpful. (Jumping the gun, a bit, I know...) Thanks for the suggestions on other kits, as well... I do have one Eduard (I think I menitoned this) Albatros D.Va ("Mailed Gauntlet" markings) - the other Fokker was the D.VIII (Hans Goerth bust, but I'm digging through some figure sites to figure out how to paint this decently.) -Eric Who's probably going to tackle that DR.1 next, then.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:36:17 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series Message-ID: <001401bfeb99$550cf760$2581aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Well, It works well in the library, although with the large scope of coverage, much gets only lightly covered. Worth the money, and it's nice to see Osprey do the book. Some of the pics are nice, but not much in it that is really news. Overall, a B-: because of some errors, and that the book is small! DB -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: RE: Osprey- New WWI Book- Pioneer Aviation Series >DB, > >> Uhh, Shane me mate, that's what I said: the engine and prop >> counter-rotate. >> > >Doh. I misread it. Correct. > >But tell us more about the book than this nit.... > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > >************************************************************** >The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential >and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution >or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are >requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems >to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. >E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. >************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2458 **********************