WWI Digest 2411 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Great book on Italian WW1 Aviation by "Jared Anthony Zichek" 2) Re: Aztec airbrush by "Ray Boorman" 3) Re: Re: Aztec airbrush by "Ray Boorman" 4) Albatros Build News and other builds........ Important by "Ray Boorman" 5) Re: Railway Gauges by Lyle Lamboley 6) Re: projects by "Len Smith" 7) Re: Railway Gauges by "Matt Bittner" 8) Re: Nieuport Cookup by bucky@ptdprolog.net 9) Re: projects by "Matt Bittner" 10) Schiffer OT Books by BStett3770@aol.com 11) Re: Nieuport Cookup by MAnde72343@aol.com 12) Re: Nieuport Cookup by Albatrosdv@aol.com 13) Re: Nieuport Cookup by MAnde72343@aol.com 14) Re: Aztec airbrush by MAnde72343@aol.com 15) Re: Railway Gauges by "Lance Krieg" 16) RE: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 by Shane Weier 17) Re: WWI ship, free download by MAnde72343@aol.com 18) RE: projects by Shane Weier 19) Re: Railway Gauges by MAnde72343@aol.com 20) Re: projects by MAnde72343@aol.com 21) RE: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 by Shane Weier 22) RE: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 by Shane Weier 23) Re: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 by MAnde72343@aol.com 24) RE: Nieuport Cookup by Shane Weier 25) Re: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 by MAnde72343@aol.com 26) RE: Nieuport Cookup by Shane Weier 27) Re: Nieuport Cookup by "Matthew Bittner" 28) Re: Railway Gauges by "Matthew Bittner" 29) Re: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 by MAnde72343@aol.com 30) Fwd: Re: Question about gauge by "Matthew Bittner" 31) Re: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 by "Matthew Bittner" 32) Re: RE: Nieuport Cookup by "Ray Boorman" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:07:52 PDT From: "Jared Anthony Zichek" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Great book on Italian WW1 Aviation Message-ID: <20000614190752.86918.qmail@hotmail.com> Matt- As far as I know, Aviation Usk and Meteor Productions both stock Avions. Don't have their URLs offhand, but I'm sure someone on the list knows. I've picked up issues during my frequent visits to France, and I'm hoping to scrape up the cash to get a two year subscription this summer. For excellent rundowns of each issue of Avions, and indeed many other foreign aviation periodicals, subscribe to Small Air Forces Observer. Subscription rate is only $13 and it is an excellent little magazine in its own right, though it seldom has WW I articles. It is frequently advertised in WW I Aero. Hope this helps, Jared Zichek >From: "Matt Bittner" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Great book on Italian WW1 Aviation >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:00:33 -0400 (EDT) > >On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:40:03 -0400 (EDT), Jared Anthony Zichek wrote: > > > I originally contacted Mr. Gentilli regarding this book based on a >positive > > review in Avions magazine, an excellent French periodical that I highly > > recommend if you are interested in interwar subjects. They have some > > articles on WWI and WWII aircraft, but their strongest articles seem to >be > > about 20's and 30's subjects. I believe the authors of this book are >regular > > contributors to Avions. > >Who stocks Avions in the US? In addition, is there anywhere one can >see a table of contents for each issue? With all the great periodicals >out there, it's getting to be where one has to pick and choose... > > >Matt Bittner > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:11:53 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Aztec airbrush Message-ID: <8C38C3A70E144D115A840005B80A2E33@Ray_B.prontomail.com>
I've been using an Aztec/Testors double action for close to 5 years.
Its a great general do everything airbrush. Last year I started
buying a new tip every year or so and rotate the oldest out. Before
that I had not bought a new tip in 3 years.

Problem areas. You must keep the tips clean this is true of any
Airbrush. The problem that a lot of people had with Aztecs was that
they would not take the tips appart. Basically because Aztec/Testors
told them not too.  So over a period of time guck built up even if
you were cleaning periodically with laquer thinner. This could happen
in as little as 2 or 3 months use. But if you take the tip appart the
life of the tip is extended. The oldest tip I have is about 3 years
old. Currently I have 4 tips 2 fine and 2 general purpose. There are
also acrylic tips. Never bothered with these but they cost no more so
if you use acrylics you may want to use the specific tip.

This airbrush is almost indestructible btw. I ran  mine over with the
car in the garage. (Don't ask)

Regards Ray Boorman (This is my new email whilst I am doing some work
on the road)








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------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:17:20 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Re: Aztec airbrush Message-ID: <9248C3A70E144D115A840005B80A2E33@Ray_B.prontomail.com> Sorry about all that html crapola on that last post of mine. Sheesh I think I will go hide my head in shame on that one ;) Ray ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:04:09 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Albatros Build News and other builds........ Important Message-ID: My suggestions for future builds would be Sopwith Aircraft Just think everything from Sopwith BatBoats, to real Triplanes then Cuckoos and Dolphins. Sorry Matt but I think Sopwith would create just as much diversity imho hehehe. ;) Then of course Neiuports, Then how about German Two Seaters, followed by Spads then ÖÖÖ. Should be about 3 years worth of work at 1 type / manufacturer per six months. Anyway on to the current build. At the time I volunteered to help organise the build I said my workload might increase. In fact that was the reason why I asked for someone to share the responsibilities with. As of a week or so ago my workload grew big time. At the end of this month (June 29th) I will be off to Hong-Kong for 2 weeks then 1 week home and then off to Korea for 3 months. Based on that I donít think I will be able to handle the Albatros site. Not really sure if I will even be able to get my email even. (Thatís one of the reasons I have changed my email addy so that I can get email anywhere I can get a web connection. I am also subscribed from here in digest mode only). Therefore Cam Riley has taken on control of the Albatros Website through the end of September. Ie for the remaining portion of this build. Cams been doing a major amount of work (All the good looking stuff btw) so this should have no effect on the build. My Albatros build will have to change a bit because of this too. I figure I can build back in the hotel room in my spare time in Korea, beats getting bored at night. But it will be oob done the old way no airbrush etc or extras, since I will only have access to a small amount of equipment. (No I am not even going to attempt to carry a compressor through customs). Iíll be taking my digital camera with me, so I will record my build plus some sites I see. Maybe even take a picture of the completed model in a tropical locale ;) Regards Ray Boorman (Ps any OT in Korea ?? lol not that I will have time ) ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:08:16 -0400 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Railway Gauges Message-ID: <20000614.160818.-166577.0.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> Lance, I heard somewhere that it was the same here, 4'-8 1/2" and that is why the Wermacht had a hell of a time getting into Russia in 1941 because the gauge there is 5'-0". HTH-- L. On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:44:26 -0400 (EDT) "Lance Krieg" writes: > Does anyone know the distance between the tracks on German railroads > of the period? > > TIA > > Lance > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:46:16 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: projects Message-ID: <000201bfd63f$9e101100$555808c3@mesh> Greetings, As the Lists No.1 German/A.H./Central Powers disliker (hate is too strong a word) I have been staying away from the Albatros cook up, but a Nieuport, Spad or Sopwith build would be tempting. Matt > One PC-10 scheme is just like all the others.......< Overall aluminium doped looks different? I grant that the Nieuports look prettier, especially in five colour finish, but unless you have access to an Alps printer there are few Escadrille markings available. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:19:38 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Railway Gauges Message-ID: <200006142036.QAA10507@pease1.sr.unh.edu> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:15:07 -0400 (EDT), Lyle Lamboley wrote: > I heard somewhere that it was the same here, 4'-8 1/2" and that is why > the Wermacht had a hell of a time getting into Russia in 1941 because the > gauge there is 5'-0". HTH-- I wasn't going to answer this one because I'm not 100% positive of the gauge, but I'm 90% sure they also had some narrow gauge as well, which will be a lot more narrow than the "standard gauge". Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:38:41 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nieuport Cookup Message-ID: <3947ED51.476A1E74@ptdprolog.net> And then multiply by at least 6 different countries (France, Britain, Belgium, Italy, US and Russia). I was thinking about writing this suggestion to the list earlier today only to return home and find out someone beat me to it! Mike Muth Allan Wright wrote: > > Types of Nieuport.. lets see, 9/10 11, 16, 17, 21, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28; and > > the 17and 24 hav 'bis' variations, that should be good enough variation for a > > cookup. My vote is for Nieuports next, wait on the Sopwiths. But what about > > a two seater cookup? everyone does fighters, how about Brisfits, Fees, > > Halberstadts, Hannovers,Breguets, etc? > > Don;t forget 2 different triplanes..... > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:40:59 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: projects Message-ID: <200006142054.QAA10647@pease1.sr.unh.edu> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:35:46 -0400 (EDT), Len Smith wrote: > I grant that the Nieuports look prettier, especially in five colour finish, > but unless you have access to an Alps printer there are few Escadrille > markings available. A problem I had hoped Blue Rider would have solved by now. Grrrr... Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:08:23 EDT From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Schiffer OT Books Message-ID: Hi Gang Got the new Schiffer Book catalog today. Heres a list of the New OT books Uniforms & Equipment of the German Army 1900-1918 - Charles Woolley - Due September The Lafayette Flying Corps - Dennis Gordon - Due September U.S. Navel Aviation 1910-1918 - Noel Shirley - Due September Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:46:06 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nieuport Cookup Message-ID: <65.59487e9.2679571e@aol.com> Two?, how about the Pfalz, and the Nieuport, Albatros, and just for fun, I've got a vac of the FK10 QUAD! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:48:48 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nieuport Cookup Message-ID: In a message dated 6/14/00 1:27:02 PM EST, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << My vote is for Nieuports next, wait on the Sopwiths. >> SOPWITHS FIRST!!! :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:50:47 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Nieuport Cookup Message-ID: <7d.63b92a8.26795837@aol.com> Picky, picky, why don't you add the 18 and 19, (which as far as I know, were never built) Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:54:01 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Aztec airbrush Message-ID: Amen , Lance, mixing the proper consistency of paint/thinner is 50% of any kind of spray painting (and after 30 years, I still screw it up regularly) Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:54:34 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Railway Gauges Message-ID: Matt reports ( from the corner in which he's sulking): 'I'm 90% sure they also had some narrow gauge as well, which will be a lot more narrow than the "standard gauge".' How big would that be? 90% sure is good enough for this application - the trolley-like setup used to deliver seaplanes from their hangars to the cranes for lowering into the water. Thanks, Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:07:29 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD01A9EFB7@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Mark > Keeping it to 72nd and 48th made perfect sense for something like the > Albatrossen but if listmembers ot to continue cook ups on a > regular if not > annual basis, the chance for those like me with really big > thumbs to dust > of the 32nd scales and bigger would add to the overall variety. No-one restricted the Albatross cookup to 1/72 and 1/48 Other, I expect, than the absence of larger scale kits in the collections of most of the listees. If you have a bigger Albatross I'm sure we'd all love to see it added to the m enu Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:07:15 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI ship, free download Message-ID: <35.6862b40.26795c13@aol.com> I've built it, and it's a beauty, but be careful when separating the cylinders from the sprue, the cylinders might get kinda short. Second, the cylinders have to all be hand fitted, the plumbing between is a little long, and would make the engine fan shaped! The top tube is the same diameter as the one below it, I just grabbed one that fit out of the scrap box, the drill is about #66, make sure it's sharp, that resin is brittle, and the head caps cracked off on half of mine, and were a @#*** to re-glue. use it in a kit that shows off the motor, it really is nice, once you get through cussing. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:13:09 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: projects Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD01A9EFB8@mimhexch.mim.com.au> David says: > But > please, after we've all built our Albatros !! ...and he's not the only one making this point. As the person who first mooted the idea of a *follow up* to the Albatross cookup I thought I made perfectly clear that IMHO this should be after - *well* after - the Albatross project is done. I think that starting about the same time next year would allow most of us a chance to finish a model OR to at least start it then abandon it with the other half finished projects ;-) (And it wouldn't be fair on the webmasters to dump a second task on them so soon after the first!) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:18:37 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Railway Gauges Message-ID: <7a.6996627.26795ebd@aol.com> the Europeans adopted a 'standard' rail gauge some time around 1875 (the Russians paranoid, even under the Tsar, opted for a different gauge so no one could invade easily) So the German Gauge would be the same as the French or Belgian, if that's any help, and the number that comes to mind (don't ask) is 170 cm (but maybe thats the gauge for the Gustav) Merill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:23:48 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: projects Message-ID: <38.73bd89a.26795ff4@aol.com> That's an interesting point, with the talent and equipment available to a group as diverse as this one, I would think coming up with a few sheets of 'special' markings would be a matter of someone, (actually a team of someones) volunteering. To those with the talent and access to the equipment, please consider that foe next year. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:28:33 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD01A9EFB9@mimhexch.mim.com.au> SP says: > >One PC-10 scheme is just like all the others... > > A thing of beauty bears repetition. Right Shane? Indeed, and because it requires subtlety to do it well, a PC.10 finish is a heck of a lot harder to do. Lots more stylish too of course ;-) > > > There may be more aircraft choices with Sopwith (maybe not) > but there > > are definitely a whole lot more markings choices with the Nieuports. > > True, A Nieuport build would allow for wide variety different > markings. On > the other hand, a Sopwith build would provide a wider variety > of types. > Personally I'm looking forward to both with equal enthusiasm. You left out "and the Nieuports are all such *ugly* little suckers" ==> ;-) > If it becomes an annual event, we could do a monoplane build > or a triplane build at some time Bingo. No need for an annual cookup to follow a manufacturer theme, there are lots of possibilities Manufacturers (Albatross, Sopwith, Nieuport, Fokker, RAF, SPAD Types (mono, triplane, latticetails, seaplanes....) Roles (bombers, recce, trainers.....) Finishes (CDL aircraft, aircraft marked or painted with red.....) Markings (remember the "skull" list we compiled?) Aces (make it harder - early aces, late aces, French Aces....) ...and so forth Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:30:24 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD01A9EFBA@mimhexch.mim.com.au> David, > How about a Nieuport > 17 from every > Allied air force? I need to check with Cam, but IMHO this is not possible. Shane (because the AFC never used the Nie17) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:36:40 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 Message-ID: <2b.70454c9.267962f8@aol.com> Shane, I said I had it, not that I was going to build it any time soon -it's a 85% 'scratch' project, and would take me maybe two years, not in time for the cookup. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:49:06 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Nieuport Cookup Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD01A9EFBC@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Merrill > Types of Nieuport.. lets see, 9/10 11, 16, 17, 21, 23, 24, > 25, 27, 28; and > the 17and 24 hav 'bis' variations, that should be good enough > variation for a cookup. Yeah but they all look the same except the 28 ;-) Only Matt, Mike and the brothers Nieport could tell em apart ! > My vote is for Nieuports next, wait on the Sopwiths. For all my joking I'm happy with either. > But what about > a two seater cookup? everyone does fighters, how about > Brisfits, OMDB Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:46:16 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 Message-ID: <13.695a87f.26796538@aol.com> Wait a minute!!!! after reading that PC10 is "boring" for the 'xth' time please check out Bucky Sheftall's Snipe, and say that again! I do a lot of Brits, and PC 10 or not the subjects are not boring, and if individual and unit markings are more subtle and less flamboyant, there are still plenty to choose from, so there all you Richthofen groupies! Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:51:52 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Nieuport Cookup Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CD01A9EFBD@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Al, > Don;t forget 2 different triplanes..... Nieuport ? And more than one of them. Plus the variation in Fokkers adds another, and the Albatripe fits the triplane theme. Plus.....I always wanted to scratch a Caproni bomber tripe. (Yikes ! Anyone got plans?) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:50:24 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Nieuport Cookup Message-ID: <200006142249.PAA11093@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:57:19 -0400 (EDT), MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > Picky, picky, why don't you add the 18 and 19, (which as far as I know, were > never built) I only listed the ones that were in production. Yes, there were Nie.14's that flew. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:52:13 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Railway Gauges Message-ID: <200006142251.PAA12488@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:23:15 -0400 (EDT), MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > the Europeans adopted a 'standard' rail gauge some time around 1875 (the > Russians paranoid, even under the Tsar, opted for a different gauge so no one > could invade easily) So the German Gauge would be the same as the French or > Belgian, if that's any help, and the number that comes to mind (don't ask) is > 170 cm (but maybe thats the gauge for the Gustav) You can't make that blanket statement. Sure, probably most of the main lines were that way, but there was more than just the main line. There's a web site out there that talks about narrow gauge in Italy during the war. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:53:21 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 Message-ID: I'm pretty sure the USAAS used the N 17 as a trainer, and what about the Layfayettes? (okay, a technicality, but...) Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:55:26 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Fwd: Re: Question about gauge Message-ID: <200006142254.PAA14941@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> This from the narrow gauge list I'm on. Lance, Merrill, there's your answer. ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== G'day The answer to your question is most definitely. They had extensive 60cm gauge networks serving there trenchs as did the British, French and later American forces. There are photos of capture German equipment in Charles Small's book being used by the Americans. After a successful advance both sides tried to use the others networks and equipment. Their locos were 0-8-0's and were built by most of the 'name' German builders some still survive. The HOn30 mailing list home page: http://www.hon30.com ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:00:27 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: projects RE: Alberto's Nie.11 Message-ID: <200006142259.PAA19103@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:59:48 -0400 (EDT), MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > I'm pretty sure the USAAS used the N 17 as a trainer, and what about the > Layfayettes? (okay, a technicality, but...) Of course the Lafayette Escadrille used the Nie.17. However, most trainers the USAS used at Cambrai (I think that's where the training base is) were Nie.17bis and "greater". But there's some really cool schemes in those USAS trainers! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:05:17 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: RE: Nieuport Cookup Message-ID:
Shane's dead body looks quite animated.... Really Shane you need
another Brisfit, or how about a DH4...... Anyway for the present how
about planning to discuss this in December or so. The Albatros cook-
up will be over and everyone except Shane will be looking for
something to do in the dark days of January..
Ray
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> But what about
> a two seater cookup? everyone does fighters, how about
> Brisfits,

OMDB


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