WWI Digest 2380 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: New modeler enters the fray by "Jack Gartner" 2) Re: Barry's Lozenge Decals by "Mike Franklin" 3) Re: CDL mixes by "The Shannons" 4) Re: Greetings from Minnesota by MAnde72343@aol.com 5) Re: CDL mixes by MAnde72343@aol.com 6) Re: Greetings from Minnesota by "Jack Gartner" 7) Re: Response to Introduction by "Mike Dicianna" 8) RE: Greetings from Minnesota by "Chris Banyai-Riepl" 9) Re: Greetings from Minnesota by MAnde72343@aol.com 10) Re: Greetings from Minnesota by "Matthew Bittner" 11) RE: Greetings from Minnesota by "Matthew Bittner" 12) Re: New modeler enters the fray by Albatrosdv@aol.com 13) RE: Note incorrect version, was, Re: Bohme's Eindekker by Shane Weier 14) RE: Note to Matt B by Shane Weier 15) RE: Greetings from Minnesota by Shane Weier 16) RE: Greetings from Minnesota by Shane Weier 17) Re: Note incorrect version, was, Re: Bohme's Eindekker by "laskodi" 18) RE: Greetings from Minnesota by Shane Weier 19) Re: Note to Matt B by "laskodi" 20) Re: New modeler enters the fray by MAnde72343@aol.com 21) Re: Note to Matt B by MAnde72343@aol.com 22) Re: Note to Matt B by MAnde72343@aol.com 23) Albatros 3 Color by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 24) Re: farman F.40: New layout by "Michael Kendix" 25) Re: Greetings from Minnesota by Dennis Ugulano 26) Re: Greetings from Minnesota by Dennis Ugulano 27) Spad Bracing Stays was: Re: Note to Matt B by smperry@mindspring.com 28) Spads by smperry@mindspring.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:45:26 -0400 From: "Jack Gartner" To: Subject: Re: New modeler enters the fray Message-ID: <007901bfccdb$ded57b20$db371c18@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 4:53 PM Subject: Re: New modeler enters the fray > In a message dated 6/2/00 12:47:54 PM EST, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: > > << I just uploaded Jack Gartner's Strutter to the gallery pages. Well > done Jack! >> > > Makes me pant for the Tom's MW Strutter I just did a deal for. > > "The check is in the mail," Dave!! :-) > > TC > Thanks, Tom! I have to say, the CSM Strutter is a VERY nice kit overall - I reviewd the build and it should be in the next IPMS Journal. I checked out your new birds as well. VERY nice! In fact, I'm about 3/4th done with Collishaw's Tripe myself. A question - what do you use for PC10? Obviously, on my Strutter I used the dark green version. And, because I was far from home with no references when I started the Tripe build, I used the exact color that Eduard listed for it. It's light, like yours, but with just a hint of green. But I understand that PC10 can also range over to a fairly dark brown. Jack Gartner IPMS/USA 30538 diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:15:28 -0700 From: "Mike Franklin" To: Subject: Re: Barry's Lozenge Decals Message-ID: <003401bfcce0$127a2a80$05edfc9e@default> Barry was kind enough to send me a small sample of the 1/48 4 color undersurface lozenge decals. As an experienced ALPS user I can say with some authority the following. What I saw was a scan and copy of someone else's lozenge. Close scrutiny will reveal that these sheets were NOT done from original artwork, but are a scan of what was first done by the silk-screen process, complete with all warts and registration problems. The colors match the Americal sheet pretty closely, not exactly, but the pattern is slightly different from the Americal sheets I have.The Rosemont/Tango Papa decals are printed in the 600 dpi mode and as such leave a visible ordered dither pattern of dark (black) dots which are not seen from more than 12 inches away. The colors are rather dense and not very translucent. There was NO protective coating over the wax ink, so they scratch VERY EASILY. Any purchaser should coat the entire sheet with Micro Liquid Decal Film as soon as you receive the sheets, otherwise you will be very sorry. Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Rayner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 1:08 PM Subject: Barry's Lozenge Decals > Hi all, > > I haven't seen this mentioned on the list (but I could have missed it as I'm > in digest mode), but Barry (of Rosemont) has snuck out some lozenge decals. > These are Alps printed, and I just received a couple of sets in 1/72 and > 1/48 scale (I just like to try and please everybody). These are definitely > interesting - you get nine bolts of upper and lower on a single sheet in > 1/72, or eight bolts each of upper and lower on two sheets in 1/48 (no rib > tapes). The decals are all in register, although under close inspection you > can see the individual pixels a bit. However, this gives quite an intriguing > effect - it gives a hint of the "faded denim" effect that several listees > have suggested lozenge fabric might have. The colours are on the dark side, > but look acceptable to me (but I'm no expert - Barry, how about giving a > sample to someone knowledgable to review?). > > So a worthy effort, and hopefully we'll see more from Barry (and Tangopapa > decals). Unfortunately it'll be a while til you see em on my models - two > Albatri to build for the cook up first. But then, the DML DVII as Bolle's > machine..... > > Cheers, > > Nigel > > PS Barry, the stuff arrived very promptly - excellent service! > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:17:40 -0500 From: "The Shannons" To: Subject: Re: CDL mixes Message-ID: <000d01bfcce0$5e9ab100$29215dcf@shark> The Humbrol mixes look like my writing from about a year or two ago. The French/British mixes are grounded in a article by Neil Robinson in Scale Models from the early '80's. The German set is based on comments from others on the list and trying to show a different tone as was mentioned in the other post that was quoted together with mine. I just brought these mixes up in terms of my views on what "CDL" should look like from experience with linen and dopes. Unbleached linen looks fairly yellow to tan in color, with a wide range of colors depending on quality or regional source, and varnishes/dope tend to have a yellow to brown cast to them. Sunlight on linen bleaches the yellow and greys the tones. Mark or Mary Shannon Shingend@ix.netcom.com The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 4:42 PM Subject: Re: CDL mixes > Thanks to Nigel and the anonymous originator; the national variations are helpful and I will start to tint my CDLs accordingly. Is there a provenance to the recipe? > > My own CDL is much less scientific, and in fact works on the bodega system: a basic pot of (mostly) Floquil paints, sort of a generic tan. With the start of each new project, the pot gets topped off, skewing the color in one direction or another, as the references or spirits move me. > > Whatever is left over at the end becomes the starting point for the next model. > > I do the same thing with PC10. > > FWIW > > Lance > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:23:10 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: I'm a switch hitter, 1/48 and 1/72, so there! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:26:19 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: CDL mixes Message-ID: Thats the spirit! It's like "olive drab" in armor modeling, it would in reality never be the same twice. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:30:18 -0400 From: "Jack Gartner" To: Subject: Re: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: <009601bfcce2$22b49b40$db371c18@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID BURKE To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 5:21 PM Subject: Re: Greetings from Minnesota > Hey Merril! > > Good to add more folks to the list - So are you 'one of the guys', or > are you a 1/72 modeller? > > > Enquiring minds wanna know... > > > DB Heh! The only guys I know who exclusively build in 1/48th or larger scale do so because they are so OLD, they can't see anything smaller than their fingers :-) Jack Gartner IPMS/USA 30538 diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:36:57 -0700 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: Subject: Re: Response to Introduction Message-ID: <004c01bfcce3$10395ae0$367f3ace@pavilion> With my new life/apartment I set up my own little hobby paradise....Computer/ workbench/ model closet all within easy reach and a rolling chair to boot.... MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > > > Personally, I'm glad I decided to (with my wife's permission, of course) = > > move my computer into my model room. Now I can bounce back and forth. = > > Is that how most of you do it > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:39:34 -0700 From: "Chris Banyai-Riepl" To: Subject: RE: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: Welcome to the list, Merrill! If anyone wants to see just what kind of work this guy does, check out his Dolphin in this month's Internet Modeler. Truly stunning, even if it is in PC10. :-) Just wait, Merrill, it won't be too long before Matt starts bugging you to do something French.... Chris Banyai-Riepl Publisher/Editor Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com > Not on the list 15 minutes, and E-mails already, Wow! I'm > Merrill Anderson, > and it's nice to finally tap into the 'main vein' . > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:53:10 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: Chris, you're bleeping Psychic! I already am working on the DML SPAD, as therapy after finishing two (of four) limited prod 'kits from heck' Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:09:24 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: <200006022308.QAA09771@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:34:21 -0400 (EDT), Jack Gartner wrote: > Heh! The only guys I know who exclusively build in 1/48th or larger scale > do so because they are so OLD, they can't see anything smaller than their > fingers :-) Bwahahahahaha... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:10:16 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: <200006022309.QAA10187@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:45:34 -0400 (EDT), Chris Banyai-Riepl wrote: > Welcome to the list, Merrill! If anyone wants to see just what kind of work > this guy does, check out his Dolphin in this month's Internet Modeler. > Truly stunning, even if it is in PC10. :-) Just wait, Merrill, it won't be > too long before Matt starts bugging you to do something French.... He's already doing it, so there! Nyah!! :-P``` ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:11:53 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New modeler enters the fray Message-ID: In a message dated 6/2/00 4:46:53 PM EST, diaphus@tampabay.rr.com writes: << A question - what do you use for PC10? Obviously, on my Strutter I used the dark green version. And, because I was far from home with no references when I started the Tripe build, I used the exact color that Eduard listed for it. It's light, like yours, but with just a hint of green. But I understand that PC10 can also range over to a fairly dark brown. Jack Gartner IPMS/USA 30538 diaphus@tampabay.rr.com >> I use a mixture of paints to create P.C.10, and I am proud to say that no two models in the collection have the same exact shade! :-) Basically, I use Tamiya "Olive Drab" and "Khaki" about 2/3 OD to 1/3 Khaki, then add in Gunze-Sanyo "Dark Earth" for tonal differences to get it toward the brown end. To do "P.C.12," as I did for the Snipe (nobody can say for sure if it was P.C.10 or P.C.12, and I was just curious), I added in a bit of Tamiya Flat Orange, since P.C.12 has an orangish tint I am told by the experten here. HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:19:03 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Note incorrect version, was, Re: Bohme's Eindekker Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD20D4@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Bob, > Do tell please. > What exactly is wrong with the wings? Wrong number of ribs. IIRC they are correct for an E.I which has a shorter wingspan. Compare with photos of the E.III at the Science Museum in London, or any of the E.III pics in the SqnSig or datafile. Or Ian Stairs (correct) drawings. The E.III should have 12 ribs outboard of the root rib, the kit has 11 > I'll be starting the Flashback E.III soon. > Plan on doing E.III as Udet's. > Anything else I should know also? Yes. Every one I've ever seen built looks like an E.III - riib numbers regardless. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:42:16 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Note to Matt B Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD20D6@mimhexch.mim.com.au> The nameless one says: > Matt, I've finished my second 'kit from heck" and started the > DML SPAD as > therapy, I'm doing Pierre Marinovich: question, I'm doing it > light yellow > under, but do you know off hand if I should use the spar or > the earlier wire for the front cabane brace? > I can't answer the question, but have one of my own. Is the wire *really* "earlier" or is it simply a matter of having the wooden fairing on or off? I ask this because some of the highly decorated post war SPAD 13 don't have the wooden fairing, and I'd have thought that by then, they'd be "late" version SPADs. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:48:14 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD20D7@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Merrill, > > I'm a switch hitter, 1/48 and 1/72, so there! > Welcome anyway. ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:51:48 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD20D8@mimhexch.mim.com.au> CBR says: > Truly stunning, even if it is in PC10. :-) Truly stylish, because it isn't in red, white, blue, yellow, orange, puce, mauve...... ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:53:19 -0700 From: "laskodi" To: Subject: Re: Note incorrect version, was, Re: Bohme's Eindekker Message-ID: <002701bfcced$bb56b300$353819d0@laskodi> Coooooool. Because I ain't changing the number of ribs! That would be nasty on the top given the deepness of the rib effect! Thanks to all for your informative messages. You'll be seeing it soon on Modeling Madness! -----Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 4:20 PM Subject: RE: Note incorrect version, was, Re: Bohme's Eindekker > Bob, > > > Do tell please. > > What exactly is wrong with the wings? > > Wrong number of ribs. IIRC they are correct for an E.I which has a shorter > wingspan. Compare with photos of the E.III at the Science Museum in London, > or any of the E.III pics in the SqnSig or datafile. Or Ian Stairs (correct) > drawings. > > The E.III should have 12 ribs outboard of the root rib, the kit has 11 > > > I'll be starting the Flashback E.III soon. > > Plan on doing E.III as Udet's. > > Anything else I should know also? > > Yes. Every one I've ever seen built looks like an E.III - riib numbers > regardless. > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > ************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:53:20 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD20D9@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Ah yes but... > > Heh! The only guys I know who exclusively build in 1/48th > > or larger scale > > do so because they are so OLD, they can't see anything > > smaller than their fingers :-) > > Bwahahahahaha... > Some of us build in 1:48 so we can fit in things YOU can't *imagine*, let alone see. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:56:15 -0700 From: "laskodi" To: Subject: Re: Note to Matt B Message-ID: <002f01bfccee$23d66880$353819d0@laskodi> I believe that the only difference is whether the wooden fairing was mounted or not, otherwise they are identical, IMHO. ------Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 4:43 PM Subject: RE: Note to Matt B > The nameless one says: > > > Matt, I've finished my second 'kit from heck" and started the > > DML SPAD as > > therapy, I'm doing Pierre Marinovich: question, I'm doing it > > light yellow > > under, but do you know off hand if I should use the spar or > > the earlier wire for the front cabane brace? > > > > I can't answer the question, but have one of my own. Is the wire *really* > "earlier" or is it simply a matter of having the wooden fairing on or off? > I ask this because some of the highly decorated post war SPAD 13 don't have > the wooden fairing, and I'd have thought that by then, they'd be "late" > version SPADs. > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > ************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:51:59 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New modeler enters the fray Message-ID: <32.5de378f.2669a29f@aol.com> According to an article I read somewhere, PC 12 was made by mixing red ochre (rust) and black (carbon) You forgot an easy one for PC 10! Tamiya has a color, Khaki Drab (XF-51) thats right about the middle of the greenish to brownish range, and looks about right, although it may be a little dark for 1/72. Merrill Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:57:04 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Note to Matt B Message-ID: <14.4641250.2669a3d0@aol.com> I'm only going on what the DAtafile said, that the XIII was reinfoced at that point on the late production models, all of the pictures I have of USAAS SPAD's, most of which were 'late' models, show a faired strut . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:25:36 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Note to Matt B Message-ID: <6b.510124b.2669aa80@aol.com> Shane, love your work, but your attitude will take some getting used to, I double checked with the Hiscock book, and a closeup of the French restoration clearly shows a solid strut, bolts and all. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:37:55 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Albatros 3 Color Message-ID: <001101bfccf3$f6a019f0$8a39183f@cyrixp166> Bob Laskodi wrote: "My choices of colors to match the top wing camo of Albies changes about as often as I change my underwear! That is on a daily basis! These are my current favorites on 6/1/00 at 10:47 PM! Haven't changed my underwear yet, soooooooo................ Dark green = Xtracolor German WWI Topside Green X241 Light green = Gunze Sangyo RLM82 Light Green H422 Rust/brown = Humbrol German Red/Brown #160 HTH and YMMV!" Oh Great! You had to bring this up didn't you? I had to really wrack my poor pea brain to remeber what I did but here goes:" Blue undersides=Polly S 500031, Sea Blue This is just a touch too blue for me but I have become used to it. I think the RLM WWII blues are too light. I was trying for a darker blue. It looks similar to the Blue on the D.II Datafile. Gray-Green (cowl & metal fixtures) = Gunze Sangyo Aqueous Hobby Color H70, RL02, cut with 25% white. Rust/Brown = Gunze Sangyo Aqueous Hobby Color H47, Red Brown Light Green = Polly Scale 505288 Italian Camo Green Dark Green = TamiyaXF-62 Olive Drab. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:47:03 PDT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: farman F.40: New layout Message-ID: <20000603004703.50134.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: Shane Weier > >Michael Kendix says: > > > The only major hurdle would be the fuselage/nacelle. I am > > uncertain how to do curved surfaces. > >Carve a master out of basswood. Either crash mould the nacelle out of > >sheet styrene, or vacform it yourself. It may *sound* intimidating but > >it's easier than you'd expect. > >Mmmm. A small nacelle wouldn't be too hard to cast out of resin at >home, >though I'd personally stick to the styrene > Shane: I would like to know how to make a vacuform machine. I bet a bunch of folks on this list have one that they made. Michael ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:54:01 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: <200006022054_MC2-A75E-B424@compuserve.com> Jack, >> because they are so OLD, they can't see anything smaller than their fingers :-) << You are going to fit right in with this group. Two days with the group and already making your mark. Way to go. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 2/6/00 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:54:00 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Greetings from Minnesota Message-ID: <200006022054_MC2-A75E-B423@compuserve.com> Merrill, Just saying hi will not suffice with this group. What scale do you build in? That will start a scale war but we haven't had one in a while. Welcome to the group and we must see pictures of your models. It's mandatory. Right, everyone? Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 2/6/00 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:42:48 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Spad Bracing Stays was: Re: Note to Matt B Message-ID: <001101bfccfd$06a78fa0$ef0956d1@default> > I can't answer the question, but have one of my own. Is the wire *really* > "earlier" or is it simply a matter of having the wooden fairing on or off The DF says nothing other than that the 13 had "Additional sloping drag bracing staysf rom the upper ends of the front center section strutsto the uppe longerons." As I look at the photos it seems a general rule of thumb that rounded wingtips and cable stays are found together and blunt wingtips and wood covered stays are seen together. Didn't squizzy ever single photo but the above seems a safe bet. sp Who is about to mount the top wing on the big Revell Spad he's been abusing since February. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:49:23 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Spads Message-ID: <001701bfccfd$f21c5b00$ef0956d1@default> Spads are not high on my list and this big Revell monster has done nothing to endear the species to me. Can anyone living in a "reference rich environment" provide me with the name of the German who shot down the most Spads? I think I'd enjoy doung a model of his plane. TIA sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2380 **********************