WWI Digest 2371 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Books on the early part of wwi information required please. by "Ray Boorman" 2) RE: Change of Status by "dfernet0" 3) paint colors? by JVT7532@aol.com 4) Re: Books on the early part of wwi information required please. by Albatrosdv@aol.com 5) Re: decals needed by "Mike Dicianna" 6) Re: decals needed by "DAVID BURKE" 7) MisterKit by "DAVID BURKE" 8) Stainless wire by "Roger L. Belanger" 9) Re: Change of Status by skarver@banet.net 10) Re: Alb Struts by Patrick J haugh 11) Re: Books on the early part of wwi information required please. by "Michael Kendix" 12) Re: Alb Struts by "Ray Boorman" 13) Re: Halberstadt models by ERIC HIGHT 14) Re: Stainless wire by "Matthew Bittner" 15) Brown?, was, Re: Bohme's Eindekker by skarver@banet.net 16) Re: Alb Struts by Patrick J haugh 17) Re: Alb Struts by "laskodi" 18) French pages updated by "Matthew Bittner" 19) Re: Books on the early part of wwi information required please. by "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." 20) Re: Alb Struts by "DAVID BURKE" 21) Re: Brown?, was, Re: Bohme's Eindekker by "DAVID BURKE" 22) Re: Halberstadt models by Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com 23) Re: Halberstadt models by "Michael S. Alvarado" 24) Re: Halberstadt models by ERIC HIGHT 25) Re: Alb Struts by "Michael S. Alvarado" 26) Re: Halberstadt models by ERIC HIGHT 27) Re: Alb Struts by "DAVID BURKE" 28) Re: Halberstadt models by "DAVID BURKE" 29) Re: Halberstadt models by "Michael S. Alvarado" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:45:41 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Books on the early part of wwi information required please. Message-ID: <007a01bfca6f$a32ed800$351235d1@bconnected.net> A week ago I bought a book in Chapters sale books section called Death of an Army. By Anthony Farrar Hockley. Its about the first battle of Ypres in late 1914. The book itself is not long and seems a bit confusing. That could be because the period of time it covers was confusing too btw. Anyway if anyone has a list of good books to read that cover this period could they email me. (Ones that are in print. please). Sorry but I might know something about aircraft, but I have no real clue about the history of the ground war. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:42:17 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Change of Status Message-ID: <004d01bfca6f$29d0e5c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Steve reported: > George the cat has just been declared "Pussy Catus Non Gratis" after a > dastardly (said with 3 sylables) sneak attack on the not yet completed Spad. > You better take care with that George the Cat. He may be in pursuit of a Blue Max! ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:36:44 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: paint colors? Message-ID: <6.69ddb64.2665805c@aol.com> Greeting people, I was wondering about the color scheme used for the Albatros D.III wings, three color, dark green, light green, dark red/brown. How well does the Polly scale paints match up with what is correct? I would like to get all my paints together as everything will have to ordered. Anyone have good color matches for the Albatros D.III wings if Polly scale does not? Thanks Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:49:10 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Books on the early part of wwi information required please. Message-ID: <94.5044867.26658346@aol.com> In a message dated 5/30/00 2:46:11 PM EST, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: << Sorry but I might know something about aircraft, but I have no real clue about the history of the ground war. >> A good general introduction to the ground war of the whole war is S.L.A. Marshall's "The First World War," originally part of the American Heritage series. I saw it yesterday at Barnes & Noble, and the other week picked it up at a used book shop. It's in paperback, about US$15 new and worth it. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 15:36:26 -0700 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: Subject: Re: decals needed Message-ID: <003e01bfca87$7e203960$497f3ace@pavilion> Ooops.... Still a little blurry from the weekend.... MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > Hey man, > > You might wanna post this straight to Ernie - he's unsubbed and can't > get it here. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:55:49 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: decals needed Message-ID: <001401bfca8a$6abafc40$b585aec7@dora9sprynet.com> My commiserations! Me, I'm fuzzy all the time ;-)... DB -----Original Message----- From: Mike Dicianna To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 5:41 PM Subject: Re: decals needed >Ooops.... > >Still a little blurry from the weekend.... > >MikeDC >"Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > >> Hey man, >> >> You might wanna post this straight to Ernie - he's unsubbed and can't >> get it here. >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:58:31 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: MisterKit Message-ID: <001a01bfca8a$95409b00$b585aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Anybody know of a good supplier of MisterKit stuff? I'm trying to get an ot conversion set for a friend of mine. TIA, DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:24:35 -0400 From: "Roger L. Belanger" To: "World War 1 list" Subject: Stainless wire Message-ID: <007901bfca8e$38161000$bdc34f0c@rogerbel> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01BFCA6C.B054F620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where are you able to get small stainless steel wire Roger Belanger ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01BFCA6C.B054F620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where are you able to get small stainless steel=20 wire     Roger Belanger
------=_NextPart_000_0076_01BFCA6C.B054F620-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:53:55 -0400 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Change of Status Message-ID: <39345492.C26D857D@banet.net> > In a message dated Tue, 30 May 2000 12:54:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, smperry@mindspring.com writes: > > << George the cat has just been declared "Pussy Catus Non Gratis" after a > dastardly (said with 3 sylables) sneak attack on the not yet completed Spad. > > He scored hits on the prop and port aileron, but no major damage. Prop and > aileron have been re-attached. More poer to you that his stat-us didn't change to Cat-us Life-lus. ;-) Stef ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 20:48:37 -0400 From: Patrick J haugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alb Struts Message-ID: <39346164.29D1C7A4@erols.com> DAVID BURKE wrote > > As you suspected, the Albatros Dr I struts are definitely wrong as > supplied > >in the kit: As moulded, they won't clear the lower wing, unless they are > >reversed. If this is done, the propellor has about six scale inches of > ground > >clearance. > > > > ..and why do you think that it wasn't pressed into service? > > ;-) > > DB The problem is that eduard cannot work out Pythagoras' theorem in three dimensions, and the struts are therefore too short. They will not fit at all if installed the right way around, as the lower wing blocks them. They will fit in if they are fitted back to front, transposing left strut to right side and right to left, but this leaves almost no clearance for the wheels under the wing. At this point I have given up any hope of the Dr I being anything more than a component in a mobile above my son's bed, so I glued the axle underneath the strut, and disguised the join by adding some thread at the axle/strut join to represent the rudimentary suspension sometimes used on W.W.I a/c and left it at that. I am now debating whether to remove the cylindrical linking struts between the ailerons and replace them with tapered thick sprue or airfoil. The Dr I has been a humbling experience. I had foolishly thought that after completing a couple of Classic airframes a/c I was ready to tackle a multi-winged monstrosity. I have learned a lot; but my next model will be a lot less challenging. No more than 1.5 wings! Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:58:11 PDT From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Books on the early part of wwi information required please. Message-ID: <20000531005811.7193.qmail@hotmail.com> Ray: Try "The Donkeys" by Alan Clark. Ludendorff: 'The English soldiers fight like lions." Hoffman: 'True. But don't we know that they are lions lead by donkeys.' Also the WWI history list at http://raven.cc.ukans.edu/~kansite/ww_one/wwi-l.html Then, do a digest only subscribe so that you can see your answer without being deluged; they have 30 percent of the amount of traffic we have. They have a lot of knowledgeable folks. Michael > >A week ago I bought a book in Chapters sale books section called Death >of >an Army. By Anthony Farrar Hockley. > >Its about the first battle of Ypres in late 1914. The book itself is >not >long and seems a bit confusing. That could be because the period >of time >it covers was confusing too btw. > >Anyway if anyone has a list of good books to read that cover this >period >could they email me. (Ones that are in print. please). Sorry >but I might >know something about aircraft, but I have no real clue >about the history >of the ground war. > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 18:02:47 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Alb Struts Message-ID: <000801bfca9b$f00a1f00$351235d1@bconnected.net> Patrick, I may be understanding this wrong, but why not make new struts that are dimensionally correct, or at least what you think is correct. Incorrect size or shape struts are pretty common so it would be good practice. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick J haugh > > The problem is that eduard cannot work out Pythagoras' theorem in three > dimensions, and the struts are therefore too short. They will not fit at all > if installed the right way around, as the lower wing blocks them. They will > fit in if they are fitted back to front, transposing left strut to right side > and right to left, but this leaves almost no clearance for the wheels under > the wing. > At this point I have given up any hope of the Dr I being anything more > than a component in a mobile above my son's bed, so I glued the axle > underneath the strut, and disguised the join by adding some thread at the > axle/strut join to represent the rudimentary suspension sometimes used on > W.W.I a/c and left it at that. I am now debating whether to remove the > cylindrical linking struts between the ailerons and replace them with > tapered thick sprue or airfoil. > The Dr I has been a humbling experience. I had foolishly thought that > after completing a couple of Classic airframes a/c I was ready to tackle a > multi-winged monstrosity. I have learned a lot; but my next model will be a > lot less challenging. No more than 1.5 wings! > > Patrick > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 18:02:38 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Halberstadt models Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000530180238.008c4f74@pop.amug.org> brent, hows a lvg.vi and a wfk big ack 8 grab ya? those are the next two kits after the gotha. eric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 20:05:48 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Stainless wire Message-ID: <200005310105.SAA17562@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> First thing first. Roger, turn off your "send in RTF/HTML" settings in your email. We're getting a bunch of residual garbage. Where are you able to get small stainless steel wire Roger Belanger http://www.smallparts.com Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:31:37 -0400 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Brown?, was, Re: Bohme's Eindekker Message-ID: <39346B79.77AB018D@banet.net> DAVID BURKE wrote: > Yeah, the DF talks about this, but more in relation to A-H Eindekkers. The > color seems to be similar to RLM 02. On what basis 'seems' if black and white photos are the evidence? Earlier, Shane suggested 'yellow CDL.' Other than the DF profiles of Rimell, what combination of fabric and finish would give this result. Can anyone provide evidence for period practice that would/could account for deep yellow fabric and periiod photos replicating the appearance of Fokker's Eindeckers? I think the 'Yellow Hypothesis' is a stretch. On the other hand, hasn't it been suggested in the literature that Fokker made use of unbleached linen for these aircraft? Think of finer woven burlap. I vote for a grayish brown, perhaps deepened by a less than water clear varnish and/or dope. BTW, why do wings almost always seem to be much glossier than the fuselages they are attached to? Regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:40:27 -0400 From: Patrick J haugh To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alb Struts Message-ID: <39346D8B.E55CC341@erols.com> Ray Boorman wrote: > Patrick, > I may be understanding this wrong, but why not make new struts that are > dimensionally correct, or at least what you think is correct. Incorrect size > or shape struts are pretty common so it would be good practice. > > Ray I had thought about doing that, and looked at the article on correcting the DIII/DV struts. However, I suspect that eduard merely copied the DV struts for this model, so correcting them for a sesquiplane might not avoid the fit problem on a triplane. I didn't have a good picture of the Dr I undercarriage ( sod's law, a lovely JPG image arrived only hours later.) At this point I was about 30 seconds from sending the Dr I on an unpowered test flight into the wall, so I bodged the undercarriage to look like something that might have actually functioned. I am going to try my hand at the aileron links first, and if that looks OK, I may pop off the undercarriage later on. Some things worked nicely; I am pretty happy with the varnished plywood finish and corrected wing attachments, the addition of the three widgets connecting the lower wing to the fuselage makes the thing look aerodynamically plausible. I am still trimming blue decal stock for the tail surface rib tapes, and wondering about using some acrylic mauve on clear decal for the under surface tail tapes. Thanks for the moral support Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 18:57:57 -0700 From: "laskodi" To: Subject: Re: Alb Struts Message-ID: <000701bfcaa3$a720fc20$433819d0@laskodi> Fear not Patrick, as the Albatros Dr.I is definitely a tough beast to build. Unfortunately you picked perhaps the most difficult modern Eduard 1:48 kit to build. It probably would have been better to do an easier Albie such as the D.III where the strut length does not significantly impact the build. I know for I too have been humbled by the Dr.I beast as an unfinished kit sits patiently waiting to be completed (hah, fat chance!). Do not let this minor setback sway you from the true path, which is WWI aircraft modeling! ------Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick J haugh" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Alb Struts > > > DAVID BURKE wrote > > > > As you suspected, the Albatros Dr I struts are definitely wrong as > > supplied > > >in the kit: As moulded, they won't clear the lower wing, unless they are > > >reversed. If this is done, the propellor has about six scale inches of > > ground > > >clearance. > > > > > > > ..and why do you think that it wasn't pressed into service? > > > > ;-) > > > > DB > > The problem is that eduard cannot work out Pythagoras' theorem in three > dimensions, and the struts are therefore too short. They will not fit at all > if installed the right way around, as the lower wing blocks them. They will > fit in if they are fitted back to front, transposing left strut to right side > and right to left, but this leaves almost no clearance for the wheels under > the wing. > At this point I have given up any hope of the Dr I being anything more > than a component in a mobile above my son's bed, so I glued the axle > underneath the strut, and disguised the join by adding some thread at the > axle/strut join to represent the rudimentary suspension sometimes used on > W.W.I a/c and left it at that. I am now debating whether to remove the > cylindrical linking struts between the ailerons and replace them with > tapered thick sprue or airfoil. > The Dr I has been a humbling experience. I had foolishly thought that > after completing a couple of Classic airframes a/c I was ready to tackle a > multi-winged monstrosity. I have learned a lot; but my next model will be a > lot less challenging. No more than 1.5 wings! > > Patrick > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 20:58:11 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: French pages updated Message-ID: <200005310157.SAA22611@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> I just updated my French pages to list a few items that have come to my attention. Well, I knew about most of them but have been lazy. :-) I added some newly found ABT decals to the SPAD 1/72nd decal page; added the Czechmaster resin kit to the 1/72nd SPAD kit page; and added a generic "announcement" of the upcoming Pegasus SPAD 12. Also and FWIW, once I upload Al's page to the site tomorrow, all but three modeler's pages have been upgraded in a possible two ways. First and foremost I wanted to speed up the loading of the pages. Which, in some pages, meant that to speed the pages up I had to break them up to fit less images on a page. So, all pages (except for three - the St. Louis Jasta page, Hustad's page, and one of the "wargamer's" page) have been sped up, either with just some HTML tweeks, or some physical break up of the images. Next up will be an update to the layout of the "real" images; that is, those images of actual aircraft that exist on the site today. Keep your eyes open, but I may take a few days off. ;-) Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Web Site co-editor ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 20:07:22 -0700 From: "Fernando E. Lamas, M.D." To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Books on the early part of wwi information required please. Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000530200722.00ae6560@olympus.net> >Anyway if anyone has a list of good books to read that cover this period >could they email me. (Ones that are in print. please). Sorry but I might >know something about aircraft, but I have no real clue about the history of >the ground war. > >Ray > A good general history is "The First World War" by John Keegan. Once you get the "big picture" you can then fill in the details with books on specific battles. Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:14:40 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Alb Struts Message-ID: <003501bfcaaf$c560b480$7d94aec7@dora9sprynet.com> > The Dr I has been a humbling experience. I had foolishly thought that >after completing a couple of Classic airframes a/c I was ready to tackle a >multi-winged monstrosity. I have learned a lot; but my next model will be a >lot less challenging. No more than 1.5 wings! > >Patrick If you have done a couple of Classic Airframes kits, then you have NO EXCUSE! Shame on you and go cry on someone else's shoulder! ;-) DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:24:33 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Brown?, was, Re: Bohme's Eindekker Message-ID: <003601bfcaaf$c64bb0c0$7d94aec7@dora9sprynet.com> -----Original Message----- From: skarver@banet.net To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 8:37 PM Subject: Brown?, was, Re: Bohme's Eindekker > > >DAVID BURKE wrote: > >> Yeah, the DF talks about this, but more in relation to A-H Eindekkers. The >> color seems to be similar to RLM 02. > >On what basis 'seems' if black and white photos are the evidence? I merely refer to the reference to a pale grey/green color. IIRC, someone previously mentioned this as being simialr to RLM 02. >Earlier, Shane suggested 'yellow CDL.' Other than the DF profiles of Rimell, >what combination of fabric and finish would give this result. Can anyone >provide evidence for period practice that would/could account for deep yellow >fabric and periiod photos replicating the appearance of Fokker's Eindeckers? I >think the 'Yellow Hypothesis' is a stretch. > Well, I sorta do to - I think that it would be a bit browner than a bright yellow like an ecru. >On the other hand, hasn't it been suggested in the literature that Fokker made >use of unbleached linen for these aircraft? Think of finer woven burlap. I >vote for a grayish brown, perhaps deepened by a less than water clear varnish >and/or dope. > The use of yello-brownish dore is not unknown. I don't know about a 'finer woven burlap', but it has been stated that the fabric used on German A/C was definately of lower quality than French and British stuff. And I would expect as well that the dope wouldn't be 'water clear'. So I'm doing mine as a slightly-brownish CDL. >BTW, why do wings almost always seem to be much glossier than the fuselages they >are attached to? Might have something to do with crud thrown on the fuselage, or differing fabric taughtness between wings and fuselage. Me don't know... DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:51:51 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Halberstadt models Message-ID: Howdy! Eric wrote: >hows a lvg.vi and a wfk big ack 8 grab ya? those are the next two kits >after the gotha. The LVG sounds good. I dunno if I'll take you up on your Big Ack though. I already have the Vimy, FE8 and RE8 for ugly. I figure the Inglish were trying to prove the laws of aerodynamics didn't apply on their side of the channel. A practice they continued up til the second unpleasantness. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:28:30 -0400 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Halberstadt models Message-ID: <393494ED.708B6DF7@bellatlantic.net> Eric; Yes, yummy. Alvie Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com wrote: > Howdy! > > Eric wrote: > >hows a lvg.vi and a wfk big ack 8 grab ya? those are the next two kits > >after the gotha. > > The LVG sounds good. I dunno if I'll take you up on your Big Ack though. I > already have the Vimy, FE8 and RE8 for ugly. I figure the Inglish were > trying to prove the laws of aerodynamics didn't apply on their side of the > channel. A practice they continued up til the second unpleasantness. > > Later! > > Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:30:58 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Halberstadt models Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000530213058.008ce7cc@pop.amug.org> brent, i thought the dolphin was butt ugly untill i saw the "8". but to each his own and one man's meat is another man's poison. DICTA IRA applies big time!! eric ps wouldn't it not major boring if we all liked the same thing???? At 11:59 PM 5/30/00 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Howdy! > >Eric wrote: >>hows a lvg.vi and a wfk big ack 8 grab ya? those are the next two kits >>after the gotha. > >The LVG sounds good. I dunno if I'll take you up on your Big Ack though. I >already have the Vimy, FE8 and RE8 for ugly. I figure the Inglish were >trying to prove the laws of aerodynamics didn't apply on their side of the >channel. A practice they continued up til the second unpleasantness. > >Later! > >Brent > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:34:08 -0400 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alb Struts Message-ID: <39349640.C19F13B@bellatlantic.net> Whats wrong with Classic Airframes Kits? There is a perfectly good airplane to be carved out of all that plastic ;^). Alvie DAVID BURKE wrote: > > The Dr I has been a humbling experience. I had foolishly thought that > >after completing a couple of Classic airframes a/c I was ready to tackle a > >multi-winged monstrosity. I have learned a lot; but my next model will be a > >lot less challenging. No more than 1.5 wings! > > > >Patrick > > If you have done a couple of Classic Airframes kits, then you have NO > EXCUSE! Shame on you and go cry on someone else's shoulder! > > ;-) > > DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:42:17 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Halberstadt models Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000530214217.0070b624@pop.amug.org> alvie, glad to cock your hammer!!! which one is your poison? eric At 12:33 AM 5/31/00 -0400, you wrote: >Eric; > >Yes, yummy. > >Alvie > >Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com wrote: > >> Howdy! >> >> Eric wrote: >> >hows a lvg.vi and a wfk big ack 8 grab ya? those are the next two kits >> >after the gotha. >> >> The LVG sounds good. I dunno if I'll take you up on your Big Ack though. I >> already have the Vimy, FE8 and RE8 for ugly. I figure the Inglish were >> trying to prove the laws of aerodynamics didn't apply on their side of the >> channel. A practice they continued up til the second unpleasantness. >> >> Later! >> >> Brent > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 23:42:05 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Alb Struts Message-ID: <001a01bfcaba$b71381e0$9a84aec7@dora9sprynet.com> AMEN! DB -----Original Message----- From: Michael S. Alvarado To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Alb Struts >Whats wrong with Classic Airframes Kits? There is a perfectly good airplane to >be carved out of all that plastic ;^). > >Alvie > >DAVID BURKE wrote: > >> > The Dr I has been a humbling experience. I had foolishly thought that >> >after completing a couple of Classic airframes a/c I was ready to tackle a >> >multi-winged monstrosity. I have learned a lot; but my next model will be a >> >lot less challenging. No more than 1.5 wings! >> > >> >Patrick >> >> If you have done a couple of Classic Airframes kits, then you have NO >> EXCUSE! Shame on you and go cry on someone else's shoulder! >> >> ;-) >> >> DB > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 23:44:15 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Halberstadt models Message-ID: <002101bfcaba$e2841ce0$9a84aec7@dora9sprynet.com> -----Original Message----- From: ERIC HIGHT To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:49 PM Subject: Re: Halberstadt models >alvie, >glad to cock your hammer!!! which one is your poison? >eric > HEY! I don't NEED to know about your personal life!!! ;-)) DB ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:50:43 -0400 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Halberstadt models Message-ID: <39349A22.85E0B512@bellatlantic.net> All of them. I will be sending you a large order as soon as I gather some money. I want to get ahold of just about every thing in your catalogue except the Pfalz D.XII as I already have several 1/48 scale injection molded kits of that bird including one built. Alvie ERIC HIGHT wrote: > alvie, > glad to cock your hammer!!! which one is your poison? > eric > > At 12:33 AM 5/31/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Eric; > > > >Yes, yummy. > > > >Alvie > > > >Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com wrote: > > > >> Howdy! > >> > >> Eric wrote: > >> >hows a lvg.vi and a wfk big ack 8 grab ya? those are the next two kits > >> >after the gotha. > >> > >> The LVG sounds good. I dunno if I'll take you up on your Big Ack though. I > >> already have the Vimy, FE8 and RE8 for ugly. I figure the Inglish were > >> trying to prove the laws of aerodynamics didn't apply on their side of the > >> channel. A practice they continued up til the second unpleasantness. > >> > >> Later! > >> > >> Brent > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2371 **********************