WWI Digest 2359 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: New Agama paints by Witold Kozakiewicz 2) Re: New Agama paints by "Dale Beamish" 3) Re: WWI digest 2358 by JVT7532@aol.com 4) Re: New Agama paints by Zulis@aol.com 5) Vimy article by "dfernet0" 6) Re: New Agama paints by "Dale Beamish" 7) Re: New Agama paints by "laskodi" 8) New acrylics, was Re: New Agama paints by "Matt Bittner" 9) More new paints. by "Len Smith" 10) Re: New Agama paints by Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com 11) New image by "Matt Bittner" 12) Re: New acrylics, was Re: New Agama paints by Albatrosdv@aol.com 13) Re: New acrylics, was Re: New Agama paints by "Matt Bittner" 14) New image problem by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 15) Re: New acrylics, was Re: New Agama paints by "Paul G." 16) Re: New acrylics, was Re: New Agama paints by Albatrosdv@aol.com 17) Re: New image problem by "Matt Bittner" 18) Re: Vimy article by "DAVID BURKE" 19) JMGT Spad Question by "Ken Acosta" 20) Re: JMGT Spad Question by Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com 21) Albatros D.III/D.V Camo Schemes by Ivan Subrt 22) Re: JMGT Spad Question by "Lance Krieg" 23) Re: JMGT Spad Question by "Ken Acosta" 24) Re: Datafiles by "Sandy Adam" 25) Re: JMGT Spad Question by "Candice Uhlir" 26) Re: Vimy article by "Candice Uhlir" 27) Re: JMGT Spad Question by "Dale Beamish" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:44:20 +0200 (CETDST) From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: I used Agama for some ot projects (WWS WWII). They are good but must dry longer than Humbrol or ModelMaster enamels and gives very deep matt finish, lot of gloss paint before aplying decals. Witold Kozakiewicz On Tue, 23 May 2000 Lubos.Vinar@ahold.cz wrote: > > > Hi, all > > Agama, the Czech producer of paints and modeling tools, release new set of > paints for WWI airplanes. > > Paints are enamel, accuracy of colours shade is good for me. All paints are > available on the VAMP site. > > German: > Dark green > Red brown > Light green > Mauve > Light blue > Turquoise > Olive - Fokker green > > French: > Beige > Chestnut brown > Dark green > Light green > > R. F. C.: > PC-10 > PC-12 > Clear dopped linen > NIVO > > > Best regards > > Lubos > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:41:49 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: <00f701bfc4cd$6aefbf60$5937b8a1@darcy> Witold Can you use the standard thinners, Modelmaster for example? Any extra straining required? Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 23 May, 2000 9:41 AM Subject: Re: New Agama paints > I used Agama for some ot projects (WWS WWII). They are good but must dry > longer than Humbrol or ModelMaster enamels and gives very deep matt > finish, lot of gloss paint before aplying decals. > > Witold Kozakiewicz > > On Tue, 23 May 2000 Lubos.Vinar@ahold.cz wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, all > > > > Agama, the Czech producer of paints and modeling tools, release new set of > > paints for WWI airplanes. > > > > Paints are enamel, accuracy of colours shade is good for me. All paints are > > available on the VAMP site. > > > > German: > > Dark green > > Red brown > > Light green > > Mauve > > Light blue > > Turquoise > > Olive - Fokker green > > > > French: > > Beige > > Chestnut brown > > Dark green > > Light green > > > > R. F. C.: > > PC-10 > > PC-12 > > Clear dopped linen > > NIVO > > > > > > Best regards > > > > Lubos > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:17:18 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI digest 2358 Message-ID: Now this sounds like a great idea, I must have 150 jars of paint and almost none work for WWI straight from the bottle. Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 << > How about shooting a "package deal" type price off to us > all for the full range of these paints. I would be willing > to try a batch to check them out.... > > > MikeDC > "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 12:41 AM > Subject: New Agama paints > > > > > > > > Hi, all > > > > Agama, the Czech producer of paints and modeling tools, release new set of > > paints for WWI airplanes. > > > > Paints are enamel, accuracy of colours shade is good for me. All paints > are > > available on the VAMP site. > > > > German: > > Dark green > > Red brown > > Light green > > Mauve > > Light blue > > Turquoise > > Olive - Fokker green > > > > French: > > Beige > > Chestnut brown > > Dark green > > Light green > > > > R. F. C.: > > PC-10 > > PC-12 > > Clear dopped linen > > NIVO > > >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:38:00 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: <5f.59469aa.265c0de8@aol.com> Greetings! I have purchased many books, kits, etc through the mail. I had avoided items such as thinners, blacken-it, paints, etc because I believe there may be a problem with sending such materials by post. Does anyone know anything more about this? If there is a problem, would this be different for each country, or are there international standards about what we can and cannot send? Thanks, Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:47:37 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: Vimy article Message-ID: <002901bfc4d6$9a493e40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> I don't know if it has been mentioned here in the list before, but the May issue of the National Geographic magazine has an article of the Vimy flight to Cape town. The first article about the reenactment of the flight to Australia had more useful pictures for modelling, but at least this shows another paint scheme of the machine. BTW, I visited the Vimy website and saw that they sell a Vimy model (http://vidar.mmebs.co.uk/vimy/ ) in 1/72nd scale at £16.99, wich seems pricey to me. Is that the usual price for Vimy kits? I guess that this must be the NOVO release. Regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:54:46 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: <001e01bfc4d7$bb7ff080$512cb8a1@darcy> I know Canada was refusing the Floquil brands for awhile because there was no French on the label. I don't know if this is still the case for Canada or not. I'm sure this sort of material would have to claimed through customs. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 23 May, 2000 10:44 AM Subject: Re: New Agama paints > > Greetings! > > I have purchased many books, kits, etc through the mail. I had avoided > items such as thinners, blacken-it, paints, etc because I believe there may > be a problem with sending such materials by post. Does anyone know > anything more about this? If there is a problem, would this be different > for each country, or are there international standards about what we can and > cannot send? > > Thanks, > > Dave Z > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:05:52 -0700 From: "laskodi" To: Subject: Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: <000e01bfc4d9$27752840$1c3819d0@laskodi> My experiences with paint and shipping have been consistently inconsistent! Since most enamels are technically flammable, they are not supposed to be shipped via air as freight as the carrier will refuse them if they know they are present. That being said, I have had enamel paints in cans (Xtracolour) successfully shipped via air! I have also had them rejected! Aerosol cans are a definite no-no. I have never had any success with aerosols of any kind. In fact in one instance, a gate person heard that distinctive aerosol can rattle in some carry-on I had and would not let me board until I threw it away! I have never tried shipping acrylic paints. Bottom line, if it's enamel and the carrier knows it's there they probably will not ship. However, most carriers do not open packages so it can be done! HTH -----Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 9:43 AM Subject: Re: New Agama paints > > Greetings! > > I have purchased many books, kits, etc through the mail. I had avoided > items such as thinners, blacken-it, paints, etc because I believe there may > be a problem with sending such materials by post. Does anyone know > anything more about this? If there is a problem, would this be different > for each country, or are there international standards about what we can and > cannot send? > > Thanks, > > Dave Z > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:55:00 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: New acrylics, was Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: <200005231711.NAA10742@pease1.sr.unh.edu> For those acrylic users, don't forget about the new MisterKit colors. So far they only have released German and British colors, but a little birdie told me they may release some French colors. I hope to have some soon so I can give a report. There's a shop in CA (which I can't remember now) that purports they'll import them, but they have none in stock yet (TC can help out here?). Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/FrenchWW1 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:29:26 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: More new paints. Message-ID: <005601bfc4dc$8ea217a0$025c08c3@mesh> Greetings, Windsock 16/3 arrived this morning. Contents include Toko Bebe article and photos by Alberto Caserati (ohmigawd !) and review of new Mister Kit acrylic paints from Italy, developed by Alberto and Roberto Anderwill. Set of ten WW1 German colours:- Albatros Red/Brown: Albatros Mauve: Albatros Pale Blue: Albatros Pale Green: Albatros Green: Fokker Olive Green: Fokker Turquoise: Light Grey: German Sky Blue: Clear Doped Linen. All obtainable from Aeroclub over here, as they are acrylic should be no problem with post, price given as £1.70 per bottle plus p & p. British set already available, planned French and Italian series. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:07:57 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: Howdy! >Does anyone know anything more about this? If there is a problem, would this be different >for each country, or are there international standards about what we can and >cannot send? I've asked this question of my friends at Squadron and at Roll Models. Both answered that they mail bottles of flamable glue and paint all the time. No problem. I imagine Hannants would say much the same thing. I don't think Roll Models carries aerosols though... YMMV Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:20:47 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: New image Message-ID: <200005231833.OAA11183@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Although I'm still trying to reformat image pages, I have uploaded Tom Cleaver's latest, an Hanriot HD.2. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Co-Editor :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 14:40:11 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New acrylics, was Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: <15.42fadb3.265c2a8b@aol.com> In a message dated 5/23/00 12:10:14 PM EST, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << I hope to have some soon so I can give a report. There's a shop in CA (which I can't remember now) that purports they'll import them, but they have none in stock yet (TC can help out here?) >> LMK the shop name and city and I will check. Wouldn't be Burbank House of Hobbies, would it? They have a website (www.houseofhobbies.com), and Glenn is pretty adventurous about getting paints. Tell me more ((off-list) about these paints and I can talk to him about getting them List Members in North America would have no trouble ordering on the net and they ship anywhere. TC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:46:00 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New acrylics, was Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: <200005231859.OAA11301@pease1.sr.unh.edu> On Tue, 23 May 2000 14:44:36 -0400 (EDT), Albatrosdv@aol.com wrote: > LMK the shop name and city and I will check. Wouldn't be Burbank House of > Hobbies, would it? They have a website (www.houseofhobbies.com), and Glenn > is pretty adventurous about getting paints. Tell me more ((off-list) about > these paints and I can talk to him about getting them List Members in North > America would have no trouble ordering on the net and they ship anywhere. I thought of you first because there's a link to them from Modeling Madness. Man, I wish I could remember the name... Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:42:30 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New image problem Message-ID: Matt, tried the link for Tom's Hanriot, no dice. Can see the thumb nail but not the bigger picture. problem your end or mine?? Mark V-J ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:10:53 -0400 From: "Paul G." To: Subject: Re: New acrylics, was Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: <007501bfc4ea$9e719b20$b7dd9bce@oemcomputer> > I hope to have some soon so I can give a report. There's a shop in CA > (which I can't remember now) that purports they'll import them, but > they have none in stock yet (TC can help out here?). Pacific Coast Models, Inc of Santa Rosa, CA http://www.pacmodels.com/ claim to be the sole/exclusive importer for MisterKit products in North America. I just e-mailed them asking if they would also carry the WW1 colors as they apparently only stock WW2 Italian related goodies. Maybe if they say no and we deluge them with requests to carry OT paints they might reconsider. Paul G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:13:40 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New acrylics, was Re: New Agama paints Message-ID: In a message dated 5/23/00 1:57:49 PM EST, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << I thought of you first because there's a link to them from Modeling Madness. Man, I wish I could remember the name... >> Likely Pacific Coast Hobbies, listed as importers of fine Italian modeling products. TC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 14:52:16 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New image problem Message-ID: <200005232000.QAA11634@pease1.sr.unh.edu> On Tue, 23 May 2000 15:12:15 -0400 (EDT), Mark Vaughan-Jackson wrote: > tried the link for Tom's Hanriot, no dice. Can see the thumb nail but not > the bigger picture. problem your end or mine?? Computers. Gads... Fixed now; try it and LMK. Matt Bittner WW1 Modeling Site Co-Editor :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:51:22 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Vimy article Message-ID: <001401bfc4f8$a8f00920$0699aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Yup, I have that one. G-EAOU : 'God 'elp All Of Us!! DB -----Original Message----- From: dfernet0 To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:55 AM Subject: Vimy article >I don't know if it has been mentioned here in the list before, but the May >issue of the National Geographic magazine has an article of the Vimy flight >to Cape town. The first article about the reenactment of the flight to >Australia had more useful pictures for modelling, but at least this shows >another paint scheme of the machine. >BTW, I visited the Vimy website and saw that they sell a Vimy model >(http://vidar.mmebs.co.uk/vimy/ >) in 1/72nd scale at £16.99, wich seems pricey to me. Is that the usual >price for Vimy kits? I guess that this must be the NOVO release. >Regards >D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:12:12 -0500 From: "Ken Acosta" To: Subject: JMGT Spad Question Message-ID: This here's a head-scratcher. I picked this kit up a couple of months ago from SMO but only recently took the time to look through it carefully. When I looked at the resin parts, I couldn't help noticing that the wings had a different color and texture than the other resin pieces. Then I realized, they're already painted! Here's my question: Did JMGT paint the wings assuming everyone would use the kit decals, or did I get a returned kit? I can't imagine a manufacturer, especially limited-run, committing the time and resources to pre-paint kit parts. Then also, the wings hadn't been prepped at all prior to painting, i.e., flashy edges, pour gates, etc. (No serious modeler would skip this step and only a serious modeler would shell out the bucks for this kit.) And to top it off, the paint is perpetually tacky. Most paints are more dry after an hour than this is after some months. I've heard great things about this kit but I can't help wondering if I got one that slipped through QC unnoticed. The rest of the kit seems fine. Any experiences from the list? TIA Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:28:51 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: JMGT Spad Question Message-ID: That is wierd. I'd give them a call. I have one kit from JGMT (formally Socrate) and it doesn't have any "prepainted" surfaces. I have fondled the SPAD, but I think I would have noticed tacky, prepainted wings. Very strange. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:41:43 +0200 From: Ivan Subrt To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Albatros D.III/D.V Camo Schemes Message-ID: <01BFC510.CCC3DD00@plzena-101.vol.cz> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BFC510.CCD4A5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some time ago a list member mentioned an article in Czech HPM magazine = bringing some new views in 3 vs. 2 colour schemes on D.III/D.V machines. Following is my humble trial to translate the incriminated part as = exactly as I am able:=20 "'Terrain' three-colour camouflage scheme was used by Albatros Werke on = the D.III version as well as on D.II. On April 12, 1917, Idflieg = released a directive red-brown camouflage shades (i.e. Rust Brown in the = case of Albatros Werke) to be substituted with Lila (Mauve). Until = recently it was thought that Lila colour was light in shade and that = camouflage scheme of the first production batch of D.III (OAW) machines = and a part of Johannisthal produced D.Vs consisted of two shades only - = light Lila and Dark Olive Green. More recent results of historical = research seem to support the hypothesis that dark red-brown colour was = substituted with another dark shade (Dark Lila) and two green shades = (Dark Olive Green and Pale Green) were left unchanged! Reason why the = colour scheme of D.III (OAW) machines consisted only of two shades seems = to be now the omission of dark red-brown shade, which often led to = mistaken identification as allied aircraft. The new dark colour wasn't = available immediately and D.III (OAW) machines were finished in two = present shades of green! It is possible that in the case of D.V machines = the scheme consisted of three colours including the new Lila shade..." Remember that this paragraph is only a part of longer article dealing = primarily with Albatros D.II camo schemes and that the author does NOT = claim his information to originate from some new, independent research. = Main references given are: Aero WWI No. 150 Windsock Datafile No. 11 Albatros Fighters, Windsock Special Maybe some list member in possession of these sources can shed more = light on this interesting problem.=20 Main question (related to my plan to build von Althaus' D.V machine) = remains: does Alb. Lila (Mauve) photograph on orthochromatic material LIGHTER = than Dark Olive Green due to it's general lightness or DARKER due to = it's position near the red end of colour spectrum? Any consensus on = this? Cheers! Ivan Subrt http://www.czechia.com/silverbird "The air is our sea." 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I've seen several different shade of resin used in one kit, but this is new. Is it perhaps an especially tenacious mold-release agent? Does it wash off? My JGMT kits are one color, and unpainted. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:07:07 -0500 From: "Ken Acosta" To: , Subject: Re: JMGT Spad Question Message-ID: I'll try washing it tonight, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm glad I saved the receipt. Ken >>> lance.krieg@amerus.com 05/23/00 05:02PM >>> Ken seems to have acquired a pre-finished kit... I've seen several different shade of resin used in one kit, but this is new. Is it perhaps an especially tenacious mold-release agent? Does it wash off? My JGMT kits are one color, and unpainted. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:23:02 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WW1 Group" Subject: Re: Datafiles Message-ID: <001301bfc505$7a7a3180$11e8b094@sandyada> Add to this #81 Albatros C.V - just got mine this morning along with latest Windsock - nice Bebe, Alberto! Sandy #80, Strutter part 2 #79, Rumpler C.I #78, Caproni Ca.3 #77, Albatros C.VII #76, Martinsyde Buzzard #75, Ago C.I #74, RAF FE8 #73, FF 33E ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:50:11 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: JMGT Spad Question Message-ID: <20000523225011.63949.qmail@hotmail.com> On a similiar note...I picked up the DML Fokker D7 kit a few months back..shrink wrapped and all at my hobby shop. When I opened it up to look at it there was a complete but partially assembled DML fokker DR1 included......I still can't figure that one out. Candice >From: "Ken Acosta" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: JMGT Spad Question >Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:13:20 -0400 (EDT) > >I'll try washing it tonight, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm glad I >saved the receipt. >Ken > > >>> lance.krieg@amerus.com 05/23/00 05:02PM >>> >Ken seems to have acquired a pre-finished kit... > >I've seen several different shade of resin used in one kit, but this is >new. Is it perhaps an especially tenacious mold-release agent? Does it >wash off? > >My JGMT kits are one color, and unpainted. > >Lance > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:52:37 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Vimy article Message-ID: <20000523225237.81614.qmail@hotmail.com> Just for info on the Vimy, the May 2000 issue of EAA Sport Aviation has an article on the rebuilt VIMY "The world's largest homebuilt" Candice >From: "DAVID BURKE" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Vimy article >Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:04:01 -0400 (EDT) > >Yup, I have that one. G-EAOU : 'God 'elp All Of Us!! > > DB >-----Original Message----- >From: dfernet0 >To: Multiple recipients of list >Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:55 AM >Subject: Vimy article > > > >I don't know if it has been mentioned here in the list before, but the >May > >issue of the National Geographic magazine has an article of the Vimy >flight > >to Cape town. The first article about the reenactment of the flight to > >Australia had more useful pictures for modelling, but at least this shows > >another paint scheme of the machine. > >BTW, I visited the Vimy website and saw that they sell a Vimy model > >(http://vidar.mmebs.co.uk/vimy/ > >) in 1/72nd scale at £16.99, wich seems pricey to me. Is that the usual > >price for Vimy kits? I guess that this must be the NOVO release. > >Regards > >D. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:08:39 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: JMGT Spad Question Message-ID: <004001bfc50b$f5d2ac80$d831b8a1@darcy> I had the same thing happen to me, however all I received in the box was a bunch of the trees. No parts. It had always puzzled me as this was shrink wrapped as well. Then years later I was having a poster shrink wrapped for my son. The shop admitted they had someone come in and ask them to do just this. Under a pretense of a joke apparently. Probably not the one I received however they are out there. Sales receipt and I guess they're in business for refunds! I still believe this is the day the boys learned some of their more colorful language. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Candice Uhlir To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 23 May, 2000 4:55 PM Subject: Re: JMGT Spad Question > On a similiar note...I picked up the DML Fokker D7 kit a few months > back..shrink wrapped and all at my hobby shop. When I opened it up to look > at it there was a complete but partially assembled DML fokker DR1 > included......I still can't figure that one out. > > Candice > > > >From: "Ken Acosta" > >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: Re: JMGT Spad Question > >Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:13:20 -0400 (EDT) > > > >I'll try washing it tonight, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm glad I > >saved the receipt. > >Ken > > > > >>> lance.krieg@amerus.com 05/23/00 05:02PM >>> > >Ken seems to have acquired a pre-finished kit... > > > >I've seen several different shade of resin used in one kit, but this is > >new. Is it perhaps an especially tenacious mold-release agent? Does it > >wash off? > > > >My JGMT kits are one color, and unpainted. > > > >Lance > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2359 **********************