WWI Digest 2336 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: German Ace's plane Question by Albatrosdv@aol.com 2) Re: German Ace's plane Question by Albatrosdv@aol.com 3) Re: Berthold's Pfalz D.IIIa was: German Ace's plane Question by Albatrosdv@aol.com 4) Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address by Albatrosdv@aol.com 5) Re: German Ace's plane Question by Sharon Henderson 6) Re: Worst kit by Albatrosdv@aol.com 7) Re: WW1 Battleships by Albatrosdv@aol.com 8) Rescued? Was: Worst kit by Sharon Henderson 9) Re: Thank you: German Ace by Albatrosdv@aol.com 10) Re: German Ace's plane Question by Albatrosdv@aol.com 11) Berthold JGII colors by "dfernet0" 12) Info request by "Matt Bittner" 13) Re: Worst kit by "laskodi" 14) Albatros Plural.... by Sharon Henderson 15) Re: Info request by KarrArt@aol.com 16) Albatros Build by "David Kelly" 17) Re: Worst kit by Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com 18) Re: German Green and Mauve by "Dale Beamish" 19) Re: Worst kit by John Huggins 20) Gannon's e-mail address by "DAVID BURKE" 21) Sierra Scale's Hansa Brandenberg Starstrutter Kit by "chrisjpb" 22) Re: WW1 Battleships by "Bob Pearson" 23) Re: Gannon's e-mail address by "laskodi" 24) Happy weekend by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 25) Re: Region 5 Report by "Lance Krieg" 26) Re: Sources for Albatros Serial Numbers by "Lance Krieg" 27) Re: Gannon's e-mail address by "Ray Boorman" 28) Re: WW1 Battleships by "Ray Boorman" 29) Albatros project request by geoff-smith@cwcom.net 30) Re: Happy weekend by "DAVID BURKE" 31) Re: Happy weekend by "Ray Boorman" 32) Re: unfriendly xoom... by Zulis@aol.com 33) Re: Great Alb cookup!! by "The Shannons" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:05:11 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <25.5993e39.264d93c7@aol.com> In a message dated 5/11/00 8:04:46 PM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << He was strangled with his own Blue Max by a > group of Communists > during a conflict with them on a German street after the war. >> The story of Berthold's death is now considered inaccurate, since there have never been any documents (like newspapers) to back it up. Given the kind of "civil war" that was going on then, having a Knight of the Pour le Merite strangled with his own medal by a Communist would make good propaganda, neh? Berthold's life is interesting enough without the fairy tales. He learned to fly before the war and was an active fighter pilot since early 1916; wounded several times, he would return to combat before he was fully healed. The last time, he broke his arm in a crash in 1918, and came back so soon his arm never healed properly and he flew the last few months of the war single-handed. He commanded Jasta 8, then 18, where he started the red-blue fuselage marking (it was the sleeve of a Prussian cavalryman, which he had been) and then switched his Jasta 18 with Raben's Jasta 15 when he became commander of JagdGeschwader II. The winged sword insignia shows up as early as an Albatros D.III in 1917, and is a subject of one of the profiles in the Osprey book. The new profipack Eduard Pfalz D.IIIa gives the markings for his early D.IIIa - I've just finished that and will be sending photos to Al next week. HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:10:14 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <7b.3f953cc.264d94f6@aol.com> In a message dated 5/11/00 11:14:25 PM EST, KarrArt@aol.com writes: << >> A lot of books and articles have mentioned that he had his airplanes rigged with special controls to allow for the lame arm, but I've never run across just exactly what this may have entailed. >> This is why he flew the Pfalz as much as he did - D.III/D.IIIa early/D.IIIa late - the throttle is on the stick, sort of like a motorcyle, allowing one to control the airplane and adjust the throttle with one hand. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:13:21 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Berthold's Pfalz D.IIIa was: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <75.40fb70a.264d95b1@aol.com> In a message dated 5/12/00 3:05:11 AM EST, witulski@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl writes: << Right know we are talking about it with Tom Gronczewski on private line and we both think that they were rather rounded than pointed. In Eduard Profipack they are pointed. On the picture wich Tom has in his archive looks like rounded but it is not very clear. >> He flew both the early *and* the late D.IIIa - pointed tips and rounded tips. Since they were painted the same way, and had the s/n painted out, a shot of the airplane's wing is the only way to tell which is what. Both are right, if you put the early D.IIIa as the one he had his final crash in, the late D.IIIa as the one he flew a short while before being given a D.VII. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:17:28 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address Message-ID: In a message dated 5/12/00 7:29:10 AM EST, Scottfking@aol.com writes: << http://members.xoom.com/OTprojects/index.html >> This address definitely works! Thanks, Scott!! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:11:59 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: Tom scripsit: (speaking of Berthold) >He commanded Jasta 8, then 18, where he started the red-blue >fuselage marking (it was the sleeve of a Prussian cavalryman, which >he had been) must insert comment here: There was probably another reason he chose this color scheme, as neither red nor blue is the color *normally* worn as the sleeve decoration of a Prussian cavalryman. Yellow is for dragoons and standard cavalry in a number of countries -- Prussia/Germany among them -- and black and white would have been the Stadt Kokard color for a Prussian. Red is used as piping on an Uhlan's uniform, so if he was a lancer, Berthold would have been mimicking his formal dress uniform on his bird -- a dark blue blouse with red piping. But if he was a cavalryman.... Maybe he was in a regiment with specific colors, and a permit to deviate from standard regs? Anyone know? Sharon, Picky Prussian :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:20:21 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Worst kit Message-ID: <36.5cf8f14.264d9755@aol.com> In a message dated 5/12/00 7:31:51 AM EST, mkendix@hotmail.com writes: << OK, fair enough but I think this "Award" should be restricted to kits you've built or "attempted" to build. I nominate Hit Kit's Albatras D.III (Oeffag) Series 153, Opus 24 in D minor. >> A tie between the BM Oeffag Albatros and the BM Roland C.II - because they should be better, given their parentage. I would never put a SMER kit on a worst list, you know what you're getting there. It's the one you paid enough for it should be good and isn't. Laskodi is busy proving that a retired guy with lots of time on his hands can make at least one of these look pretty good (the Albatros, I think) but even he thinks the other one is hopeless. :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:22:37 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 Battleships Message-ID: In a message dated 5/12/00 8:22:43 AM EST, lozenge1@telusplanet.net writes: << Does anyone know of sources for large scale ( perhaps 1/350 ) WW1 Ships? Dale >> Sometime this summer, ICM is releasing "Grosser Kurfurst" (I think, sorry, not a boat boy), but anyway a WW1 German dreadnought in 1/350. Supposed to be more where that comes from if it sells. HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:24:05 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Rescued? Was: Worst kit Message-ID: >OK, fair enough but I think this "Award" should be restricted to kits >you've built or "attempted" to build. What about the worst kit you've ever attempted to build, that you managed to rescue and make into something fairly decent? Anyone wanna share those tales too? My brother David rescued a truly ugly Dr.1 when we were teenagers, and made it into a thing a beauty. I think it was an Airfix 1:48, but I'm not sure. I still have to finish something recent, to even SLIGHTLY say I rescued something.... ;-) Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:30:45 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Thank you: German Ace Message-ID: <78.528e03a.264d99c5@aol.com> In a message dated 5/12/00 11:36:33 AM EST, JVT7532@aol.com writes: << I would also like to join the Albatros Build Matt, I will be doing Bertholds aircraft the Albatros D.III that you mentioned in your email. I will get the book this week then start my search for markings and colors and then check out which Eduard D.III kit will work best for me. >> The Albatros he flew is Albatros-built, so you can either get the Profipack and build with the center-radiator wing and Albatros rudder, or get the regular kit, not the OAW built Albatros. The winged sword will be the one thing you need, and you can either get it from the Pfalz profipack (though you'll likely want to do the kit there) or get it from the Aeromaster Fokker D.VII sheets or Pfalz #1 sheet, and it should fit easily. HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:32:59 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <65.42d2617.264d9a4b@aol.com> In a message dated 5/12/00 12:21:03 PM EST, wolfchen@netpolicy.com writes: << Red is used as piping on an Uhlan's uniform, so if he was a lancer, Berthold would have been mimicking his formal dress uniform on his bird >> Sorry - somebody on a horse in a uniform is a cavalryman to me. This is correct. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:34:09 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: Berthold JGII colors Message-ID: <006401bfbc38$4964da80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> When Berthold took command as Geschwaderkommandeur (whew! long word, isn't it?) he changed previous distinctions amongst staffeln: all staffeln would have prussian blue rear fuselages and different colored noses, Jasta 15 kept the red noses that used before, jasta 12 kept white, jasta 13 changed to green (Buchner was saxon) and jasta 19 kept yellow noses. When Berthold left JG2 command, the distinctions remained until the end of the war. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:58:58 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Info request Message-ID: <200005121800.OAA00013@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Since I'm going to build Schobinger's D.V of Jasta 12, I'm trying to track down some info on the ace. According to the D.V Datafile, there was an article on him in the March/April 1986 issue of the German magazine Flugzeug. Does anyone have that issue the could copy the article for me? Plus I think there was info on him in an issue of C&C(US), although I'm not certain of which issue. TIA! MEB __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:30:26 -0700 From: "laskodi" To: Subject: Re: Worst kit Message-ID: <001701bfbc40$253321a0$2f3819d0@laskodi> Actually, I would DEFINITELY put the Roland on the "worst" list as it has over 10 significant flaws (most of them incorrect molding procedure) that need correcting and there is no excuse for that poor quality control in a high end kit. Still hoping Chris Gannon sends another set of wings (3 weeks and still no answer to my e-mails! Who said he'd replace poorly molded parts?) as that's my excuse for not starting it yet! I would DEFINITELY NOT put the Albatros OEFFAG on that list! There are NO molding flaws whatsoever (yay, no infamous wing ripple), it is relatively easy to build (for a limited run kit), has loads of variants to build included, is a carbon copy of the DF scale drawing so it's very accurate (with the following exception), and the incorrect design flaws (aft tail, stabilizer, & skid fairing are way too thick) are easy to correct. In fact, sanding down the inside mating surface by 1mm each side works for the skid & tail, and guess what, he correctly molded the inside width of the stabilizer to accommodate this! Go figure! Model is completely finished, turned out great, and pics will be back next week! Took about 25 hours to complete, not too bad for a limited run kit. Bottom line, "TWO THUMBS WAY DOWN" for the Roland, "TWO THUMBS WAY UP" for the Alby. Ahhh yes, us poor retired guys do need to build models. Someone's gotta have all the fun while the wife works! -----Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Worst kit > In a message dated 5/12/00 7:31:51 AM EST, mkendix@hotmail.com writes: > > << OK, fair enough but I think this "Award" should be restricted to kits > you've > built or "attempted" to build. I nominate Hit Kit's Albatras D.III (Oeffag) > Series 153, Opus 24 in D minor. >> > > A tie between the BM Oeffag Albatros and the BM Roland C.II - because they > should be better, given their parentage. I would never put a SMER kit on a > worst list, you know what you're getting there. It's the one you paid enough > for it should be good and isn't. > > Laskodi is busy proving that a retired guy with lots of time on his hands can > make at least one of these look pretty good (the Albatros, I think) but even > he thinks the other one is hopeless. :-) > > Tom Cleaver > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:33:55 -0400 From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Albatros Plural.... Message-ID: >What was the plural of Albatros again Please ? > >Ray :-) Trouble. Deeep, deeeeeep trouble at 120 kph.... :-) S. Unrepentant Prussian :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:38:24 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Info request Message-ID: In a message dated 5/12/00 10:58:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << Since I'm going to build Schobinger's D.V of Jasta 12, I'm trying to track down some info on the ace. According to the D.V Datafile, there was an article on him in the March/April 1986 issue of the German magazine Flugzeug. Does anyone have that issue the could copy the article for me? Plus I think there was info on him in an issue of C&C(US), although I'm not certain of which issue. TIA! MEB >> Volume IV Wurttemberg in O'Connor's award series has a couple of pages. The basics- 8 kills started flight training on Oct19, 1916 after serving with a machine gun company April23-July24 1917 served with Flieger Abteilung12 four days fighter familiarization at Valenciennes after July24 then on to Jasta 12 on July29 first kill August9, an SE5a Saved vonTutschek in epic dogfight with N8 sop Triplanes August11- given credit for downing Booker flying N5482 With vT's wounding in the above fight, Schobinger was appointed jasta commander onAugust13 Led the squadron for three months until wounded November 15- out of action completely for four months then moved on to training new fighter pilots. The one photo shows in the piece shows him leaning against the tail of a D.V- the pic doesn't show much other than a dark airplane! RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:48:49 -0400 From: "David Kelly" To: Subject: Albatros Build Message-ID: Hello. I've been lurking on the WWI list for some time now and have been enjoying the conversations. It's been a busy year with little modeling. The Albatros Build has grabbed my attention and is a great excuse for fishing my modeling gear out of the moving boxes. I would like to build Fritz Jacobson's D.III with the plain varnished wood and b&w diamond fuselage band. I noticed that Charles Duckworth also is interested in building this plane. This won't cause any problems, I hope. (Charles, I have a very nice photo postcard of Jacobson and his dog standing next to this plane somewhere with a mountain backdrop. If you'd like a copy or scan, let me know.) Cordially yours, David Kelly dkelly@fcc.cc.md.us ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:01:19 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Worst kit Message-ID: I saw one recently... I think it was from Merlin. A 1/48 Roland limited run type thing. Low detail and big chunky moldings. Whew! What a stinker! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:03:54 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: German Green and Mauve Message-ID: <004f01bfbc45$6be68ce0$442eb8a1@darcy> Although I'm not an Acrylic user I believe the colors are just that: German Dark green and German purple. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 12 May, 2000 9:20 AM Subject: German Green and Mauve > Although there were past discussion about mauve, what are good Polly > Scale matches for the green and mauve found on Albatros D.V flying > surfaces? TIA! > > > MEB > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:23:41 -0500 From: John Huggins To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Worst kit Message-ID: >It also came with a very nice instruction sheet detailing all the pieces >that were NOT included! >Dale >----- Original Message ----- >From: Allan Wright >To: Multiple recipients of list >Sent: 12 May, 2000 6:43 AM >Subject: Re: Worst kit This may be old news to some of you, but I have several of the Beechnut kits somewhere in my pile of never to be built kits. When they first showing up, they did look interesting in the bag. After some comparison with a couple of the very early Rare Planes kits, it became very clear that they were just poor low pressure knock offs. It appears that all that was done was the removal of the parts from the vac sheets, than did a poor job of sanding them down, made a mold and then did the low pressure injection molding. The props, wheel halves and struts were nothing more than copies of the vac parts as they came from the sheet. In the long run, the Rare Planes kit was much easier to build, and looked much better. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:22:26 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Gannon's e-mail address Message-ID: <006901bfbc48$435d04e0$ae95aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hi Guys, Seeing as how I have 2 BM kits (Brisfit and Halberstadt) that suffer from the dreaded ripple, what is Mr. Gannon's e-mail address? I would love to add the Brisfit to my collection one day - Shane Weir's awesome scratchbuild pics are worming their way into my black little heart! DB Who is beginning to rig the Camel - we are getting short here, folks! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:49:41 -0400 From: "chrisjpb" To: "WWI Modeling" Subject: Sierra Scale's Hansa Brandenberg Starstrutter Kit Message-ID: <001901bfbc4b$376fb4e0$05aa183f@computer> Hi, I don't have much experience with vacuform kits and I would like to try a build a 1/48 Starstrutter. Anybody built this kit and care to give me some info as to difficulty and quality. TIA Sincerely, Chris B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:28:15 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 Battleships Message-ID: <200005122003.NAA10065@mail.rapidnet.net> Revell has a 1/350 German cruiser. . the Emden. there are resin kits from other companies, but these are a tad more expensive. Bob ---------- >From: "Matt Bittner" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: WW1 Battleships >Date: Fri, 12 May, 2000, 6:41 AM > > On Fri, 12 May 2000 09:25:04 -0400 (EDT), Dale Beamish wrote: > >> Does anyone know of sources for large scale ( perhaps 1/350 ) WW1 Ships? > > ICM has announced some, but they haven't been released yet. > > > MEB > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:12:04 -0700 From: "laskodi" To: Subject: Re: Gannon's e-mail address Message-ID: <000d01bfbc4e$58580e20$233819d0@laskodi> Lotsa Luck. Hope you fare better than me getting new wings! Three weeks and counting! chris@pegasusmodels.com HTH -----Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID BURKE" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:40 PM Subject: Gannon's e-mail address > Hi Guys, > > Seeing as how I have 2 BM kits (Brisfit and Halberstadt) that suffer > from the dreaded ripple, what is Mr. Gannon's e-mail address? I would love > to add the Brisfit to my collection one day - Shane Weir's awesome > scratchbuild pics are worming their way into my black little heart! > > > DB > > Who is beginning to rig the Camel - we are getting short here, folks! > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 18:06:50 -0400 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Happy weekend Message-ID: Just a note to wish everyone a good weekend. . . I've managed to wangle a week off on over time so (if the kids let me) I'm planning to play with a 72nd scale Eduard DVa - practice for the albatros bake off. I'll probably also start the Hanriot floatplane and maybe fondle the Ilya, the Tom's Modelworks 32nd scale Pflaz and the 28 scale Voss Tripehound that all arrived this week.. . .my cup runneth over (ain't life grand!) I'm switching to digest for the week but I'll probably get withdrawls and subscribe from home too.. . .you people are a tad addicitve I've found. Play nice, model lots and watch out for those fumes. DB - stock up on the beer if you're rigging that camel - it seems to agree with you ;-) Later Mark V-J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:43:22 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Region 5 Report Message-ID: Glen is kind, up to a point, whence he says: "Of course, when your building in such a *huge* scale as 1/48, it must be easy to get all those details in..." Which is why I settled on 1/48 in the first place, because there IS a chance to include the details. As I get older, though, I'm starting to think about 1/24... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:46:19 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Sources for Albatros Serial Numbers Message-ID: This has been kicked around already with Americal Gryphon being the supplier. The Jasta 5 sheet is the one that has blocks of Albatros numerals, along with the "/16" and "/17" to enable any one particular plane to be constructed. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:05:26 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Gannon's e-mail address Message-ID: <002c01bfbc55$cbd46680$5f1335d1@bconnected.net> Another option would be to phone them. Here's the number. 44 (0)1227 277569 I got my wings replaced for the Roland that way. Cost me I think about $1.50 all told. Regards Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: laskodi To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Gannon's e-mail address > Lotsa Luck. Hope you fare better than me getting new wings! Three weeks and > counting! > chris@pegasusmodels.com > HTH > -----Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DAVID BURKE" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:40 PM > Subject: Gannon's e-mail address > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > Seeing as how I have 2 BM kits (Brisfit and Halberstadt) that suffer > > from the dreaded ripple, what is Mr. Gannon's e-mail address? I would > love > > to add the Brisfit to my collection one day - Shane Weir's awesome > > scratchbuild pics are worming their way into my black little heart! > > > > > > DB > > > > Who is beginning to rig the Camel - we are getting short here, folks! > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:22:36 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: WW1 Battleships Message-ID: <004901bfbc58$32007d20$5f1335d1@bconnected.net> Dale Another source for wwi ships would be to go the Card model route. http://www.scheuer-struever.de/os-cgi-bin/pg.exe?spr=ddd http://www.expresspages.com/p/papermodels/ http://www.papermod.de/ http://www.marcle.clara.net/ Of course you might find you get hooked on another hobby Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Beamish To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 6:25 AM Subject: WW1 Battleships > Does anyone know of sources for large scale ( perhaps 1/350 ) WW1 Ships? > Dale > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:32:43 +0100 From: geoff-smith@cwcom.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Albatros project request Message-ID: <391C868B.29827.16AE952@localhost> Guys, Back in the mists of time 3 weeks ago, when I had digests going back about 4 years stored on disk, the Albatros project hadn't been born. Since then a major PC death coupled with Packard-Bell's death sentence on my backup disk has left me with no way of accessing the various posts on plywood finishes (as in watercolor pencils etc). If anyone has a copy of this most interesting and vital information or can point to the digests concerned, can they please copy it to me or post it to the project page. Many thanks, Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:27:05 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Happy weekend Message-ID: <002701bfbc59$5696d520$db85aec7@dora9sprynet.com> > >DB - stock up on the beer if you're rigging that camel - it seems to agree >with you ;-) > >Later >Mark V-J Thanks Mark, But I think that I shall take the advice of the general consensus and do it sober. I bought some fly-tying tinsel that looks a fair match for RAF wires - I just shot the model with a final coat of Future before the Decals go on, and I add the rigging, control horns, etc. I hope that it meets with general approval when it is finished. DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:46:41 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Happy weekend Message-ID: <000901bfbc5b$8f1c36e0$5f1335d1@bconnected.net> David, There are benefits to rigging after a glass of wine or 3, or a few beers. Just think you can do double flying wires in one try. Yes you too can get one wire to look like two!!. Only flaw is you must keep a stready flow of alchohol to the brain. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID BURKE > >DB - stock up on the beer if you're rigging that camel - it seems to agree > >with you ;-) > > > >Later > >Mark V-J > > > Thanks Mark, > > But I think that I shall take the advice of the general consensus and do > it sober. I bought some fly-tying tinsel that looks a fair match for RAF > wires - I just shot the model with a final coat of Future before the Decals > go on, and I add the rigging, control horns, etc. > > I hope that it meets with general approval when it is finished. > > > DB > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:49:26 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: unfriendly xoom... Message-ID: In a message dated 00-05-12 09:47:33 EDT, you write: << I have updated the link - try now. -Allan >> I have no idea what you did, boss - but it works beautifully now! Thank you! Such an impressive list of albatrossen.... wow. This is going to be fun. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:51:06 -0500 From: "The Shannons" To: Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! Message-ID: <003a01bfbc5c$2deec8a0$8e4cddcf@shark> I haven't piped up because I'm having difficulties finishing them due to various things that prevent me from working on models. I have three in the bin, two have markings spoken for by request from the family (Voss and Flashar/Hipple 'Dragon'), and I'm debating the third ( a DIII). I want to have as much variety of color and pattern as possible among the three, but I really would like to do a overall-painted without it being one of the big-three from Jasta 11 that always come up. I am leaning toward a 11 bird, though, 2958 -- the wavy red line on fuselage sides and top, red stripes flanking the fuselage crosses, and an extra cross on the top in the white band. decisions, decisions. I can try to get one of these done for July and September. Mark or Mary Shannon Shingend@ix.netcom.com The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2336 **********************