WWI Digest 2334 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) ot E-mail/Outlook Express Problem Need help by smperry@mindspring.com 2) unfriendly xoom... by Zulis@aol.com 3) Re: Albatros DV DVa Differences by Albatrosdv@aol.com 4) Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address by Albatrosdv@aol.com 5) Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address by Albatrosdv@aol.com 6) German Ace's plane Question by JVT7532@aol.com 7) Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address by "Bob Pearson" 8) RE: German Ace's plane Question by Shane Weier 9) Re: German Ace's plane Question by smperry@mindspring.com 10) Re: German Ace's plane Question by "Dale Beamish" 11) RE: German Ace's plane Question by "Matthew Bittner" 12) Re: German Ace's plane Question by "Bob Pearson" 13) Re: unfriendly xoom... by "cameron rile" 14) Re: German Ace's plane Question by Zulis@aol.com 15) Future Magic by smperry@mindspring.com 16) Re: German Ace's plane Question by "Bob Pearson" 17) RE: German Ace's plane Question by Shane Weier 18) Re: German Ace's plane Question by Zulis@aol.com 19) Re: Region 5 Report by GRBroman@aol.com 20) Sources for Albatros Serial Numbers by "Charles and Linda Duckworth" 21) RE: Sources for Albatros Serial Numbers by Shane Weier 22) Re: Future Magic by "laskodi" 23) Re: German Ace's plane Question by KarrArt@aol.com 24) Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: Great Alb cookup!! by KarrArt@aol.com 26) Mac Pfalz D.III was Playing Hookie and Albatrossing! by David Solosy 27) Re: CSM Halberstadt CL.IV by David Solosy 28) Worst kit by "Bob Pearson" 29) Re: RAF Wires by "D Charles" 30) RE: German Ace's plane Question by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 31) Re: Berthold's Pfalz D.IIIa was: German Ace's plane Question by Witold Kozakiewicz 32) 1/72 compared and a decision at last by "dfernet0" 33) Re: Worst kit by "Brad & Merville" 34) Re: Worst kit by "Matthew Bittner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:54:29 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: ot E-mail/Outlook Express Problem Need help Message-ID: <002d01bfbba4$3fb1a2a0$b20956d1@default> I run Outlook Express. It used to show e-mails in the order received now it shows them in the order sent (time stamped by the sender's computer. With all the different time zones, the messages come in at the tail of the thread then the opening message filters in hours later. View is set to sort & display by Received, assending. If anyone can help please gbe me an OFF LIST holler at smperry@mindspring.com Please don't use Reply. TIA sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:16:24 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: unfriendly xoom... Message-ID: <64.2a0132d.264ca758@aol.com> Well, I have tried that address from my site, Al's site, copied and pasted from the email which worked for Ray, and then repeated the whole process from another email address I have. No luck at all. I think this is a British Columbia / Ontario thing..... :-) Thanks anyway, folks - I am sure the site is excellent and perhaps by the time it starts filling up with pics my problems will be resolved. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:18:55 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatros DV DVa Differences Message-ID: In a message dated 5/11/00 3:52:07 PM EST, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: << I need to know if the Eduard DVa can be a Jasta 34 DV with small changes. >> If you use the little photo-etch aileron thingies (haven't got an instruction sheet to hand at the moment) it will be a D.V HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:32:12 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address Message-ID: <43.4a65003.264cab0c@aol.com> In a message dated 5/11/00 6:16:47 PM EST, Zulis@aol.com writes: << When I try and go to the posted address, I get the xoom 404 Member's Page Not Found notice. No problem.... I go to Al's site and use the link.... same thing. Then, reading the posts, I hear that at least some of you have visited the site. >> I got the same experience. (Members page not found) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:37:45 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address Message-ID: <3b.4bd5cb0.264cac59@aol.com> In a message dated 5/11/00 6:39:20 PM EST, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: << Dave, its up there now, sometimes Xoom has a bit of a hickup. http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/OTprojects/index.html Ray >> At 1735 PDT I used this URL and it *still* came back 404. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:55:04 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <2b.58ce731.264cb068@aol.com> Today while waiting to get my hair cut at Uncle Lou's, who must be 85 now and still gives me a taffy when he's done, all for $5.25, I was reading an old magazine about German Air Aces. There was one story that caught my attention about Randolph Berthold. It seems he was a very good pilot and had quite a few kills to his name, he also survived the war and was murdered in a very strange way. He was strangled with his own Blue Max by a group of Communists during a conflict with them on a German street after the war. Does anyone know what planes he flew and the markings for them? I think I would like to do something of his if it's interesting enough. Thanks a bunch. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:59:41 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address Message-ID: <200005120103.SAA09982@mail.rapidnet.net> The one thing both of you have in common leads me to think it is a plot against stoneage AOL browsers. Bob ---------- >From: Albatrosdv@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address >Date: Thu, 11 May, 2000, 5:41 PM > > In a message dated 5/11/00 6:39:20 PM EST, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: > > << Dave, its up there now, sometimes Xoom has a bit of a hickup. > http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/OTprojects/index.html > Ray >> > > At 1735 PDT I used this URL and it *still* came back 404. > > Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:05:31 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1FF9@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Jon > Today while waiting to get my hair cut at Uncle Lou's, who > must be 85 now and > still gives me a taffy when he's done, all for $5.25, I was > reading an old > magazine about German Air Aces. There was one story that > caught my attention > about Randolph Berthold. It seems he was a very good pilot > and had quite a > few kills to his name, he also survived the war and was > murdered in a very > strange way. He was strangled with his own Blue Max by a > group of Communists > during a conflict with them on a German street after the war. > Does anyone > know what planes he flew and the markings for them? I think I > would like to > do something of his if it's interesting enough. Thanks a bunch. > A short summary of Rudolph Bertholds life. How about a red and blue Pfalz D.IIIa or Fokker D.VII with a white winged sword on each side? Both pretty well known aircraft. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:09:58 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <001501bfbbae$cb8296e0$c10156d1@default> Jon: The Smer 1/48 Fokker D.VII includes markings for Berthold's plane. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:14:42 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <003601bfbbb0$0ec20de0$7f2bb8a1@darcy> Jon If you want profiles I'll dig them out for you. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 11 May, 2000 7:00 PM Subject: German Ace's plane Question > Today while waiting to get my hair cut at Uncle Lou's, who must be 85 now and > still gives me a taffy when he's done, all for $5.25, I was reading an old > magazine about German Air Aces. There was one story that caught my attention > about Randolph Berthold. It seems he was a very good pilot and had quite a > few kills to his name, he also survived the war and was murdered in a very > strange way. He was strangled with his own Blue Max by a group of Communists > during a conflict with them on a German street after the war. Does anyone > know what planes he flew and the markings for them? I think I would like to > do something of his if it's interesting enough. Thanks a bunch. > > Best regards, > Jon > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:23:45 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <200005120126.SAA21463@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Thu, 11 May 2000 21:07:23 -0400 (EDT), Shane Weier wrote: > How about a red and blue Pfalz D.IIIa or Fokker D.VII with a white winged > sword on each side? Both pretty well known aircraft. Or the Albatros D.III that is profiled in the new Osprey Aces book, and you can join in on the list build. ;-) MEB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:31:56 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <200005120135.SAA10984@mail.rapidnet.net> Look, I'm not telling you again. ... we are not mentioning *that* book. ... :-) I did that one 10 years ago .... Whoops. . no I didn't, it was Veltjens winged arrow on an ex-works D.III ... nevermind Bob There are also two birds in flight on Albatros D.IIs at Jasta 14 as well. ---------- >From: "Matthew Bittner" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: RE: German Ace's plane Question >Date: Thu, 11 May, 2000, 6:30 PM > > On Thu, 11 May 2000 21:07:23 -0400 (EDT), Shane Weier wrote: > >> How about a red and blue Pfalz D.IIIa or Fokker D.VII with a white winged >> sword on each side? Both pretty well known aircraft. > > Or the Albatros D.III that is profiled in the new Osprey Aces book, and > you can join in on the list build. ;-) > > > MEB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:36:02 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: unfriendly xoom... Message-ID: <5A5A1747F6724D115A240005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> Dave, >Well, I have tried that address from my site, Al's site, copied and pasted >from the email which worked for Ray, and then repeated the whole process from >another email address I have. No luck at all. Xoom has 1.3 million members (or webpages) so their bandwidth can get sucked up fast, plus they get their money from spamming their members with deals for clipart, cameras etc, so expanding bandwidth and adding fast servers isnt high on their priorities. Plus because they are unlimited space, you are fighting for bandwidth a kid who ftp'ed up photoshop and his mates are all downloading it. Usually if you try a couple of times later you will get through unless AOL is doing something? We used xoom as it is simple to hide the advertising from it with a bit of Javascript and it was unlimited so anything of any size could be dumped there. Sorry that it isnt working for you :( cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:42:09 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <17.571683b.264cbb71@aol.com> In a message dated 00-05-11 20:57:27 EDT, you write: << There was one story that caught my attention about Randolph Berthold. >> Hi Jon! You have stumbled across one of my favorites ... this guy was something else. First of all, every photo I see of this guy looks like he is half-crazy, which has always seemed an appropriate characteristic for a pilot of that period. What's more - he was the ultimate "iron flyer".... He suffered heavy injuries, one of his arms was almost useless as I recall, but they couldnt keep him out of the airplane. A very tough piece of leather, this guy. And somehow, whether the story about his death by strangulation is true or not, it doesnt surprise me that he would die while arguing with rebellious soldiers. As for the modelling, that great old 1/72 Revell DVII is sold with his markings as depicted on the box art - one of my favorite kits. Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:46:37 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Future Magic Message-ID: <002b01bfbbb3$e9f438e0$c10156d1@default> I just royally spooged the wing I had just painted in the Lt Green. Chestnut, Dark Green, Pale Blue scheme DSA says is right for D.IIs. I mixed all my colors from Liquitex Acrylics and Future. Shot with an airbrush. A pound of stupidity and a dash of carelessness left me with serious touch up job. Well I was able to brush paint the touchups and that stuff dried in a perfect blend. You can't tell without a magnifying glass. The leveling powers of Future are phenomonal. sp -mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:46:50 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <200005120150.SAA11565@mail.rapidnet.net> Dave, Don't you recall the final talk of the recent seminar. . it dealt with the various freikorps and the death of Berthold. Bob ---------- >From: Zulis@aol.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question >Date: Thu, 11 May, 2000, 6:46 PM > > In a message dated 00-05-11 20:57:27 EDT, you write: > > << There was one story that caught my attention > about Randolph Berthold. >> > > Hi Jon! > > You have stumbled across one of my favorites ... this guy was something else. > First of all, every photo I see of this guy looks like he is half-crazy, > which has always seemed an appropriate characteristic for a pilot of that > period. > > What's more - he was the ultimate "iron flyer".... He suffered heavy > injuries, one of his arms was almost useless as I recall, but they couldnt > keep him out of the airplane. A very tough piece of leather, this guy. > > And somehow, whether the story about his death by strangulation is true or > not, it doesnt surprise me that he would die while arguing with rebellious > soldiers. > > As for the modelling, that great old 1/72 Revell DVII is sold with his > markings as depicted on the box art - one of my favorite kits. > > Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:55:20 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1FFB@mimhexch.mim.com.au> DZ mentions: > And somehow, whether the story about his death by > strangulation is true or > not, it doesnt surprise me that he would die while arguing > with rebellious soldiers. It is, though I thought it was communist rebels and well post war (1921??? It's in the Prussian Awards volume due to his Pour le Merite) Incidentally, my favourite Berthold story is of his crash landing has burning aircraft whilst standing on the wing root and reaching in to hold the stick. Flames from the engine blowing back had made the cockpit a little uncomfortable. Supposedly he crashed into a barn or other farm building and survived more or less in one piece. True or not, it's a great story. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:58:39 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <37.5106c83.264cbf4f@aol.com> In a message dated 00-05-11 21:48:38 EDT, you write: << Don't you recall the final talk of the recent seminar. . it dealt with the various freikorps and the death of Berthold. >> Sure I do.... I was sticking to generalities (as usual). I have heard a few versions of his death, though.... The thing that is unforgettable is that peculiar expression on his face in that photo - as if he just discovered he is sitting on a tack and doesnt want to let on.... DZ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 23:03:03 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Region 5 Report Message-ID: <60.3032989.264cce67@aol.com> In a message dated 5/9/2000 10:08:21 AM EST, lance.krieg@amerus.com writes: > The contest was well-attended and run, suffering only from a relative lack of > OT entrants. Matt B.and Glen needed to enter their stuff.. Mea culpa. I should have brought my previous OT entries for display. Of course, all of the new OT stuff didn't quite get done in time for the Regional. It was fun meeting some new faces and Lance does absolutely incredible stuff. Of course, when your building in such a *huge* scale as 1/48, it must be easy to get all those details in :). Seriously, his stuff was to 1/48 what Hustad is to 1/72. How did you train those spiders to do that rigging? Glen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:37:19 -0500 From: "Charles and Linda Duckworth" To: "ww1FAQ" Subject: Sources for Albatros Serial Numbers Message-ID: <001e01bfbbc3$720350e0$e92c57d8@cnlduckwor> Found my early Edurad DIII tonight (in the last box of kits on the very bottom). Anyone have a source for Albatros DIII serial numbers this model's decals don't even give me a start as both planes had the number painted over. I need two D.2090/16 so I can do Jacobson's aircraft ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:40:26 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Sources for Albatros Serial Numbers Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1FFF@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Charlie, > Found my early Edurad DIII tonight (in the last box of kits > on the very > bottom). Anyone have a source for Albatros DIII serial > numbers this model's > decals don't even give me a start as both planes had the > number painted > over. I need two D.2090/16 so I can do Jacobson's aircraft One or more of the A/G sheets has blocks of Albatros style numbers on them. Maybe someone would be willing to trim out the required numerals if they have them spare OR you could buy the sheet and get a load of other schemes to drool over as well! Shane > ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:47:02 -0700 From: "laskodi" To: Subject: Re: Future Magic Message-ID: <000f01bfbbc4$bc979ca0$173819d0@laskodi> I've got another testimonial! Sprayed a coat of Testor's Dullcote over a Gunze acrylic paint job. Waited overnite to dry, picked it up with a cloth glove the next morning and left divot sized fingerprints in the finish. The Dullcote melted the acrylic coat! Went to that miracle product (Future), mixed it 50-50 with Tamiya Flat Base and blasted the snot out of the model. Let it dry overnight, shot a clear coat of plain Future and you couldn't see a thing, plus the Future hardened over the melted paint so at least you could now pick up the model! A miracle! I use nothing else for gloss coating any more! -----Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 6:48 PM Subject: Future Magic > I just royally spooged the wing I had just painted in the Lt Green. > Chestnut, Dark Green, Pale Blue scheme DSA says is right for D.IIs. I mixed > all my colors from Liquitex Acrylics and Future. Shot with an airbrush. A > pound of stupidity and a dash of carelessness left me with serious touch up > job. Well I was able to brush paint the touchups and that stuff dried in a > perfect blend. You can't tell without a magnifying glass. The leveling > powers of Future are phenomonal. > > sp > -mail smperry@mindspring.com > Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 00:11:30 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: In a message dated 5/11/00 6:43:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Zulis@aol.com writes: << Berthold........... What's more - he was the ultimate "iron flyer".... He suffered heavy injuries, one of his arms was almost useless as I recall, but they couldnt keep him out of the airplane. A very tough piece of leather, this guy. >> A lot of books and articles have mentioned that he had his airplanes rigged with special controls to allow for the lame arm, but I've never run across just exactly what this may have entailed. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 00:11:31 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address Message-ID: In a message dated 5/11/00 6:02:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bpearson@rapidnet.net writes: << The one thing both of you have in common leads me to think it is a plot against stoneage AOL browsers. Bob >> No problem- AOL took me directly there! RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 00:11:32 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! Message-ID: In a message dated 5/11/00 3:35:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << The machines with the bones had a different armament fitted IIRC. If anyone could show me details of the new ?Siemens? guns I'd scratch a pair to do this machine myself (*later*), and maybe cast a few for general consumption Shane >> There was a book our maybe 25-30 years ago called something like "German Aviation Armament 1910-1945" that had a bunch of stuff about these guns. My local library used to have it- then it disappeared- the librarian said it got too tattered to repair so they threw it out. Damn..... RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:41:48 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "WW1 List (E-mail)" Subject: Mac Pfalz D.III was Playing Hookie and Albatrossing! Message-ID: <56EBF0EF4A03D4118C6F00902776597F05A23C@s26pss4.pssc.wa.gov.au> Brent Agree with you about the Mac Pfalz. Stacks up very favourably with the Datafile plans. Also very clean moulding and struts etc look quite fine. Good value I think. Does look remarkably similar to the CzechMaster one. And that's not a bad thing.   David from Perth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:48:01 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "WW1 List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: CSM Halberstadt CL.IV Message-ID: <56EBF0EF4A03D4118C6F00902776597F05A23E@s26pss4.pssc.wa.gov.au> Matt Thanks for the link to your references for the Halb. You're a true gentleman.   And, no, I won't be building a Merlin kit. I conceded to doing penance not to submitting myself to corporal punishment.   I think we should have a straw poll on worst WW1 kit of all time. My vote goes to the Merlin 1/72 Gotha. Nothing was right with it!   David from Perth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 23:11:53 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Worst kit Message-ID: <200005120615.XAA20489@mail.rapidnet.net> Meikraft Gotha .. no parts included :-( Bob ---------- >From: David Solosy > I think we should have a straw poll on worst WW1 kit of all time. My vote > goes to the Merlin 1/72 Gotha. Nothing was right with it! >   > David from Perth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:25:45 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: RAF Wires Message-ID: <000001bfbbdb$fe5cf4c0$317408d2@charls> Thanks Sandy, et al. That's close enough. I'm working in a 1916-17 time frame. ...a BE2c had new streamlined wires This was sometime shortly after July 1915. (I'm sure I'll have the exact ref in >the Rigging Notes or one of the RAE books if somebody really wants it.) , DG-M flew Shorthorns Why have I never thought to want a kit of this wonderful >contraption before? (Obviously I mean in 48th scale) >Sandy Or the other scale: 1/28 :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:56:32 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: >> Does anyone know what planes he flew and the markings for them? Jon, I know markings of at least five planes he flew: Pfalz E.IV Nr 803/15: Overall CDL with black front fuselage and black edge outlining. Crosses had no white backgrounds; Albatros D.II Nr D1717/16 with clear wood fuselage, tricolor camouflaged wings and no other specific markings; Albatros D.III with clear wood fuselage, tricolor camouflaged wings and tails and white winged sword emblem (I do not know its number yet); Pfalz D.IIIa (late) with red/blue fuselage, blue top top wing surfaces, silbergrau bottom surfaces and white winged word emblem; Fokker D.VII marked similary but with lozenge bottom surfaces and white mid section of upper wing from above. HTH Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:02:31 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Berthold's Pfalz D.IIIa was: German Ace's plane Question Message-ID: <391BBA97.37DC0192@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> Shane Weier napisał(a): > > How about a red and blue Pfalz D.IIIa or Fokker D.VII with a white winged > sword on each side? Both pretty well known aircraft. But one question about Pfalz D.IIIa. Had it pointed or rounded lower wing tips? Right know we are talking about it with Tom Gronczewski on private line and we both think that they were rather rounded than pointed. In Eduard Profipack they are pointed. On the picture wich Tom has in his archive looks like rounded but it is not very clear. And in the same magazine there is profile of this plane with rounded wing tips and all black cross on lower wing. Any suggestions? Regards. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:10:37 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" , Subject: 1/72 compared and a decision at last Message-ID: <003b01bfbbfa$527cec40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Guys: If you give me a little time, I'm working in a 1/72 kit comparison of DI, DII and DIII plastic parts: Revell, Esci and Pegasus. Besides, I finally made my mind about the Albatros I'll build: An Albatros DII from the Pegasus kit. Now, the question is: on which serial number the Albatros DII changed the "ear" radiators for the wing-mounted ones? This is an important feature and can't be overlooked and affects the paint scheme to be applied later. Can someone inform? TIA! D. PS: I'd like to do Jasta 19's Ltn. Dingel D.II (with a nice "Di" in his side), but since it's serial number 1784/16 I guess that's a late model. Someone has a picture of this machine? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 06:14:30 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: Worst kit Message-ID: <002f01bfbbfa$dd91c800$498c5ad1@The_Grenade.Workgroup> Merlin 1/72 Friedrichshafen G.III, or so the box top claims! Emphasis on "Fried". Brad -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, May 12, 2000 2:13 AM Subject: Worst kit >Meikraft Gotha .. no parts included :-( > >Bob > >---------- >>From: David Solosy > > >> I think we should have a straw poll on worst WW1 kit of all time. My vote >> goes to the Merlin 1/72 Gotha. Nothing was right with it! >> >> David from Perth > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 05:20:14 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Worst kit Message-ID: <200005121023.DAA22516@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> Worst kit...hmmm...ever see a Beechnut Fokker D.VII/E.V? And you think most Merlin kits are bad... 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