WWI Digest 2333 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Albatros assistance by Witold Kozakiewicz 2) The Midnight Rigger Strikes Again! by Albatrosdv@aol.com 3) Re: Playing Hookie and Albatrossing! by Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com 4) Albatros DV DVa Differences by "Ray Boorman" 5) RE: Silvery blue?? by Shane Weier 6) Re: Albatros DV DVa Differences by "Lance Krieg" 7) RE: Albatros DV DVa Differences by Shane Weier 8) Re: Great Alb cookup!! by "Francisca e Pedro Soares" 9) Re: Silvery blue?? by "The Shannons" 10) Re: Great Alb cookup!! by "Ray Boorman" 11) RE: Silvery blue?? by Shane Weier 12) RE: Great Alb cookup!! by Shane Weier 13) Re: Great Alb cookup!! by smperry@mindspring.com 14) Re: Great Alb cookup!! by "Limon3" 15) Re: Great Alb cookup!! by "Matthew Bittner" 16) Alb cookup by "Matthew Bittner" 17) Re: Great Alb cookup!! by "Limon3" 18) Re: Great Alb cookup!! by "Dale Beamish" 19) Re: Albatros markings offer by "Bob Pearson" 20) Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address by Zulis@aol.com 21) Harsh Words by "Dale Beamish" 22) backgrounds by "Roger L. Belanger" 23) Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address by "Dale Beamish" 24) Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address by "Ray Boorman" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:45:50 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Albatros assistance Message-ID: <3919AE5E.B375C2@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> Mark Vaughan-Jackson: > > I'm looking for info on what the > heck is out there in terms of aftermarket decals. I have one set of Propagteam decal No. 48101 for Alb D.V/Va 1/48. Markings for five different planes: 1. DVa Jasta 62 Lt. Max Nather (black fuselage with german flag green/mauve upper sides) - "In action" - This one I most probably will build 2. D.V Jasta 4 D4594/17 red and blue fuselage with white hatchet and lozenge wings 3. D.V Jasta 19 D2092/17 Jasta 19 Walter Boning, Woodden fuselage with black "B" over red and white stripe, lozenge wings 4. D.Va Jasta 46, well known "Stropp" 5. D.V Jasta 5 from last page of "In Action" (grey with green flower on white shield) Maybe it is avaiable somewhere on the other side of Great Water. HTH -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:46:31 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: The Midnight Rigger Strikes Again! Message-ID: <90.42f775b.264c6817@aol.com> Hi, all: I have just completed *re*-rigging my Aeroclub 1/48 R.E.8 - it had an accident two years ago, was rebuilt, and the rigging awaited "the right time", which turned out to be now. Anyway, I did it using the Evergreen .010x.015 trip, to simulate "raf" wires. It looks entirely convincing this way, and much better than I remember with the .008 guitar string. On the subject of raf wires, any thoughts as to whether or not the F.E.2b might have had them? If the B.E.2c did in 1915, I think it possible. The photos in the DF are inconclusive, though I am sure it would have been cable in the "birdcage" aft fuselage. Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:56:07 -0500 From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Playing Hookie and Albatrossing! Message-ID: Howdy! >Took a "mental health" day off of work today Lucky stiff! I wish I could do that someday soon. Maybe I'll take Sunday off... I just picked up the 1/72 Albatros Profipack so I can get started soon. I also saw the Mac Phalz D.III. It's much better than their Fokker kit. It looks suspiciously like the Pegasus, which bore a remarkable resemblence to the Czech Master kit. At any rate, it appears to be much less of a bear then their original effort. Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:52:11 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Albatros DV DVa Differences Message-ID: <001b01bfbb8a$c77863a0$5f1335d1@bconnected.net> Ok I know we have been down this road before but, I wasn't paying as much attention as I should. Anyway DVa's had the small support struts. ?? Some DV's had these too. The Aileron runs are different on the DV to DVa But how ?? Are there any other differences. I need to know if the Eduard DVa can be a Jasta 34 DV with small changes. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:26:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Silvery blue?? Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1FF0@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Chris, > Welcomed the Voss cowl discussion; what really puzzles me > though is the > oft-repeated silvery blue reference. What's the origin? The pre-production F.1 and maybe a few early production Dr.I had the green streak over turquoise upper surfaces rather than over CDL. Given that the aircraft was very new - it lasted merely days in service - it would have remained highly glossy, so it's not hard to see how the reflections of skylight off of a basically blue surface appeared silvery blue in the heat of combat > know it crops up > in older materials...could the green streaking have been > thinner than on > later production craft and thus showing more blue/turquoise? The photos of this aircraft don't show it as being particularly thin, though the amount of green varied pretty widely. A little off track, but Mark S. later in this thread suggests that this may be due to Fokkers well known parsimony. Maybe. But this is "well known" on the basis of the now quite discredited Weyl biography. Fokker may indeed have cut corners, but there are other explanations such as trying to produce more with less in a wartime situation where supply was limited and sometimes uncertain. I'd sure like a less biased observer to be writing *my* story. Just MHO. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:27:56 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Albatros DV DVa Differences Message-ID: Ray asks: "Anyway DVa's had the small support struts. ??" these struts were often retro-fitted to planes still in service, even D.III. Check photos of the subject plane. "The Aileron runs are different on the DV to DVa" The D.Va reverted to the same configuration as the D.III, namely through the lower wing. The D.V control runs were confined to the top wing, and featured an actuating shroud not unlike the Nieuport. To identify a D.Va, look for a pair of wires from the aileron to the lower wing; for a D.V look for a larger fitting on the aileron itself, and no inter-wing wires. "Are there any other differences[?]" Yes, mostly internal and structural. Check Shane Weier's control columns on Allan's page, for starters. "I need to know if the Eduard DVa can be a Jasta 34 DV with small changes." Yes, no problem. HTH, IIRC Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:45:56 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Albatros DV DVa Differences Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1FF1@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Ray > Ok I know we have been down this road before but, I wasn't > paying as much > attention as I should. > Anyway DVa's had the small support struts. ?? Mostly. But not all. > Some DV's had these too. Yes, especially if they lasted a while in service. The auxiliary strut is NOT an indicator of whether the aircraft is a V or Va > The Aileron runs are different on the DV to DVa Yes. > But how ?? On a D.V they run around a big wheel on the torque bar of the control column just forward of the rudder bar. Two wires run up side by side between the guns into the upper wing centre section. They travel through the TOP wing to two shrouded actuators above and below the wing aft of the interplane struts. On the D.Va the wires run out through the lower wing root. The lower wing has an extra access panel to allow the riggers to access the wires. The wire travels outboard, round a pulley and up through the lower wing to a control horn extending forward of the aileron leadin edge into a rectangular slot in the front of the cutout. The return wire attaches just forward of the aileron trailing edge, goes down into a hole just back of the other wire, around a pulley and back to the wing root. HTH :-) > Are there any other differences. An access panel for the pulleys, below the bottom end of the V struts on the D.Va. An access panel in the centre section rear to acces the upper wing control wires in the D.V > I need to know if the Eduard DVa can be a Jasta 34 DV with > small changes. > YES Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:58:01 +0100 From: "Francisca e Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! Message-ID: <008001bfbb94$df34da00$97df41c2@pc1> ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 1:22 AM Subject: RE: Great Alb cookup!! > > I can't see why it shouldn't be both a world wide list project which will > produce an internationally available web resource which will > Oh Heck!!!! I was trying to dodge because I am having some very hard times trying to find free time to model (in fact I haven't touched a model for more than a month now...) and next month I will be moving... BUT, I really wouldn't want to be left behind, and September is still a couple of months away so... RAY, Put me on the roster too. Are there any laws against doubles? I've read one of you guys was going for the green striped DV from the Osprey book... and I'd really would love to take a go at this one too... Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:04:24 -0500 From: "The Shannons" To: Subject: Re: Silvery blue?? Message-ID: <004301bfbb94$df134840$1d215dcf@shark> ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:27 PM Subject: RE: Silvery blue?? > A little off track, but Mark S. later in this thread suggests that this may > be due to Fokkers well known parsimony. Maybe. But this is "well known" on > the basis of the now quite discredited Weyl biography. Fokker may indeed > have cut corners, but there are other explanations such as trying to produce > more with less in a wartime situation where supply was limited and sometimes > uncertain. I'd sure like a less biased observer to be writing *my* story. > Just MHO. > > Shane Well, I'm basing it on the fact that Imrie shows how Fokker was taken to task on the amount of dope used in treating the wings, and mentions that the craftsmen were given a fixed amount per airframe, so that often area where they started painting got a relative lion's share and the tail end of it got the dregs. Parsimony or rationing, I don't know, but the fact that he was taken to task on it by IdFlieg is suggestive it was the former. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:20:55 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! Message-ID: <008d01bfbb97$2d2ad1e0$5f1335d1@bconnected.net> Pedro you mean Ltn Helmut Dilthey's DVa from Jasta 40s I think that Brent Theobald has it. I don't have a problem with duplicates. The only thing I would add is if there are duplicates please don't get into a comparison war over it. That could stop people publishing their models and defeat the object imho. Has anyone thought of doing Fritz Rumeys from Jasta 5. This one can be duplicated since it was painted striped. But then a bone was added. In the Osprey book they have a picture of Rumey's and Mai's Old Bones DV's together. Just an idea for someone. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Francisca e Pedro Soares > > > Oh Heck!!!! > > I was trying to dodge because I am having some very hard times trying to > find free time to model (in fact I haven't touched a model for more than a > month now...) and next month I will be moving... > > BUT, I really wouldn't want to be left behind, and September is still a > couple of months away so... > > > RAY, Put me on the roster too. > > Are there any laws against doubles? I've read one of you guys was going for > the green striped DV from the Osprey book... and I'd really would love to > take a go at this one too... > > > > Pedro > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:34:20 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Silvery blue?? Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1FF3@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Mark, > Well, I'm basing it on the fact that Imrie shows how Fokker > was taken to > task on the amount of dope used in treating the wings, and > mentions that the > craftsmen were given a fixed amount per airframe, so that > often area where > they started painting got a relative lion's share and the > tail end of it got > the dregs. > > Parsimony or rationing, I don't know, but the fact that he > was taken to task > on it by IdFlieg is suggestive it was the former. > Okay, in this case I agree with you then. It was Imrie though who discredited Weyl in my eyes, and much of the anti-Fokker cant can be traced directly or indirectly to his book. Perhaps i should be aware that there were facts as well as personal biases involved Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:37:02 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Great Alb cookup!! Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1FF4@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Ray, > Has anyone thought of doing Fritz Rumeys from Jasta 5. This one can be > duplicated since it was painted striped. But then a bone was > added. In the > Osprey book they have a picture of Rumey's and Mai's Old Bones DV's > together. > Just an idea for someone. The machines with the bones had a different armament fitted IIRC. If anyone could show me details of the new ?Siemens? guns I'd scratch a pair to do this machine myself (*later*), and maybe cast a few for general consumption Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:40:04 -0400 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! Message-ID: <000701bfbb99$da2f8140$b20956d1@default> In 1:72 Scale, I have a copy of the Renwal Aero-Skin D.V in Ludwig, Hanstein's markings. I will try to do this one just for variety before Sept. Now, anyone have any idea what the markings were really like? The markings on the Aero-Skin seem dubious at best. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:42:13 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! Message-ID: <000201bfbb9a$75b950a0$1ebf113f@f4w2s5> Hi Ray, please put me down for either Leptien's diamond DV 1/48 Eduard, or the Jasta 68 with the Dog in the Ball. Gabe. -----Original Message----- From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:52 PM Subject: Great Alb cookup!! >Gang, > >Until the web page is up here is the current list of virtual builders and >the information I have for the choices. >Please email me off list if you don't appear and want to, or the info is >wrong. Where possible I have tried to add info if I knew it. Plus Toms >answer to Sharons question is here too. >Currently I don't see any duplicates. This list is in Excell form but I >stripped it for those who might have problems with this. > >In the works an email address to send anything you want to go on the web >page >This list on the web page in table form. > >I picked up the Eduard DVa today my gosh, I opened it looked at the parts >played with them and felt like I had died and gone to heaven;) > >btw my partner in the insanity is Cam who is "das web experten" ;). > > > >Scott King Scottfking@aol.com Still to choose >Dave Zulis Zulis@aol.com Albatros DIII? Goerings Black White Jasta 27 1/48 >Cameron Riley cameron@prontomail.com 1/48 Alb Not sure yet >Dale Beamish lozenge1@telusplanet.net Bohning's "Ace of Spades and >Monnington's "Death Head" Both 1/48 scale DV's >Mark Miller albatros1212@altavista.com Virtual Albatros? Not sure about >which real model?? >Brent Theobald theobat1@airmail.net Unknown Alb Flashar's from Jasta 5 Or >Helmut Diltheys from Jasta 40s (Green white Striped Dva) >Dennis Ugulano Uggies@compuserve.com Albatros D.IV 1/72 Revell DIII Conv >"Way to go Dennis yah!!!" - Sorry Editorial comment Dennis Some Rigging >tips??? >Mike Dicianna mikedc@dnc.net Udet's Jasta 37 Black DV with diagonal striped >elevator and lozenge wings >Matt Bittner tbittners@sprintmail.com Spad XIII not sure which Jasta ;) >Markings info?? >Sharon Henderson wolfchen@netpolicy.com Kurt Wolff's infamous flying >aubergine -- the purple D III - Need serial info -According to Tom it was >D.632/17. Note that the Albatros was all purple but the wheel disks were >medium blue >Otis Good Otisgood@aol.com Hubrich's Albatros Dva - Osprey profile #42 the >wheel disks were medium blue. This is one of my potential subjects for >Dave Calhoun dcalhoun01@snet.net Another Udet Aircraft DVa Silbergrau the >Eduard kit too >Ray Boorman Ray_Boorman@telus.net Silver grey DV 1/72 Jasta 34 >Ernest Thomas ethomas6@bellsouth.net Won't tell anyone darned heretic! >Tom Cleaver Albatrosdv@aol.com OAW D.III, 1/48 from Eduard >Charles Duckworth cnlduckwor@ninenet.com DIII does Jacobson's D.2090 >Shane Weier sdw@qld.mim.com.au Albatros D.Va (1/72) built as Sigmanns starry >machine (Shane is done btw) Shane can you give some pointers for the web >page >Ken Hagerup hagerupk@prodigy.net Jasta 18 Dva 1/72 Eduard >S Perry smperry@mindspring.com D.II Toms Modelworks 1/48 AH bird Yes!!! >(sorry at it again) >Diego dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar DIII Pegasus > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:45:36 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! Message-ID: <200005112248.PAA02169@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Thu, 11 May 2000 18:47:43 -0400 (EDT), Limon3 wrote: > Hi Ray, please put me down for either Leptien's diamond DV 1/48 Eduard, or > the Jasta 68 with the Dog in the Ball. Gabe. Ok. I need to know something. How does everyone know of Leptien's bird? MEB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:46:48 -0500 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Alb cookup Message-ID: <200005112249.PAA02964@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> Just returned from looking at Ray and Cam's site, and the diversity is excellent. None have been duplicated yet, although it sounds like it will start (not a problem, just an observation). It would be great if we could have every Jasta represented, but I understand people have their preferences. ;-) MEB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:48:20 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! Message-ID: <000201bfbb9c$d67446a0$d5bf113f@f4w2s5> Hello Ray. Sorry I couldn't reply sooner, I'd like to be included doing Lt. Leptien's diamond DV in 1/48 and the J.68 with the greyhound and the ball. Thanks, Gabe. -----Original Message----- From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! >I'll throw out some idea's here. >Lets make the target date to be done for everyone who will get done, as End >of September. In that time you can make one or however many Albatros as you >like, try not to duplicate anyone else's aircraft btw. That is one reason >why I will keep the list updated of who's building what. > >For those with web pages you can you can put all the information you feel >like putting up. Send me a link and I or Cam will put a link on the main >page. >On the Albatros main page we would like to have a section or paragraph for >everyone building. What goes in that section will be that persons >responsibility. I.e. in-build photos, references, warnings etc. >Cam and I would also like to have some build-up articles, Can be targeted at >experts i.e. what to add to make The definitive Albatros, and also how to >build an Albatros if you are building for the first time. >Markings >Wood duplication >Rigging >Best method of building a jig to mount struts etc.... >Oh and a certain person might have that Virtual Albatros. > >Anyway those are some ideas, the one thing I don't want to see imho is hard >and fast rules of "you will build this way in this timeframe" etc. To me >its more fun to see what we collectively come up with. > >Ray > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: Multiple recipients of list >Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 3:41 AM >Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! > > >> Sorry, but I wasn't paying a whole bunch of attention to this thread until >I >> found the Photo of the A-H D.II. >> >> Is there some kind of time frame envisioned for completing the models? >> >> Do we keep an ongoing set of photos and a log of what we're doing? >> >> Do we post this as an ongoing process or when we're done? >> >> sp >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:58:04 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! Message-ID: <002001bfbb9c$86988ce0$b231b8a1@darcy> Matt I've been waiting to do Leptiens for awhile! Just kept shying away from all that masking! But now that I have those dreaded five color schemes done ..... Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 11 May, 2000 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Great Alb cookup!! > On Thu, 11 May 2000 18:47:43 -0400 (EDT), Limon3 wrote: > > > Hi Ray, please put me down for either Leptien's diamond DV 1/48 Eduard, or > > the Jasta 68 with the Dog in the Ball. Gabe. > > Ok. I need to know something. How does everyone know of Leptien's > bird? > > > MEB > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:00:53 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Re: Albatros markings offer Message-ID: <200005112311.QAA05575@mail.rapidnet.net> Dale writes, > sorry. . it has to be for this project. . and not for loft insulation :-) > ??? I'm not sure what this implies however for the rest of us that don't > have the issue mentioned, we'll do without. > Thanks anyway ...... > Dale ------------- Dale, My comment on the markings wasn't intended to stop you from doing it .. rather from someone else making money off my work ... I have no problem with anyone on the list making use of the markings for themselves .. or someone printing them for you for free .. but it is if someone is charging for the markings that I am against it ... I did all the work in creating the markings and don't want someone else to make the money off of them while I am struggling to cover my bills. If someome is printing them for you for free, let me know who and where to send them. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:14:21 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address Message-ID: <7f.437aa8c.264c98cd@aol.com> In a message dated 00-05-11 01:44:22 EDT, you write: << http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/OTprojects/index.html >> ok... now I am confused. When I try and go to the posted address, I get the xoom 404 Member's Page Not Found notice. No problem.... I go to Al's site and use the link.... same thing. Then, reading the posts, I hear that at least some of you have visited the site. What is going on here? This doest make sense.... DZ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:21:44 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: "List" Subject: Harsh Words Message-ID: <004201bfbb9f$f0f75b40$b231b8a1@darcy> Bob if you're listening ... I would like to apologize for my smart a**ed remarks last evening. I apologize to the list as well as this is not the place to lose ones temper. Hopefully anyone that has dealt with a settlement with the "X" will understand! Dale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:26:37 -0400 From: "Roger L. Belanger" To: "World War two list" Subject: backgrounds Message-ID: <002201bfbba0$5b46eec0$c6c14f0c@rogerbel> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFBB7E.D342B160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use a model railroad background and some of the woodland scenics = ground cover. try it out and let us see the results. as soon as I get my = wife well I will be submitting some photos.Roger B ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFBB7E.D342B160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use a model railroad background and some of the = woodland=20 scenics ground cover. try it out and let us see the results. as soon as = I get my=20 wife well I will be submitting some photos.Roger = B
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFBB7E.D342B160-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:32:22 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address Message-ID: <005e01bfbba1$2a906c60$b231b8a1@darcy> I just tried the link you sent and it worked for me. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 11 May, 2000 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address > In a message dated 00-05-11 01:44:22 EDT, you write: > > << http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/OTprojects/index.html >> > > ok... now I am confused. > > When I try and go to the posted address, I get the xoom 404 Member's Page Not > Found notice. > > No problem.... I go to Al's site and use the link.... same thing. > > Then, reading the posts, I hear that at least some of you have visited the > site. > > What is going on here? This doest make sense.... > > DZ > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:39:40 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address Message-ID: <011a01bfbba2$2d45abe0$5f1335d1@bconnected.net> Dave, its up there now, sometimes Xoom has a bit of a hickup. http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/OTprojects/index.html Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Great Albatros cook-up Web site and email address > In a message dated 00-05-11 01:44:22 EDT, you write: > > << http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/OTprojects/index.html >> > > ok... now I am confused. > > When I try and go to the posted address, I get the xoom 404 Member's Page Not > Found notice. > > No problem.... I go to Al's site and use the link.... same thing. > > Then, reading the posts, I hear that at least some of you have visited the > site. > > What is going on here? This doest make sense.... > > DZ > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2333 **********************