WWI Digest 2324 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: The great Albatros build with a spad! by "Dale Beamish" 2) TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea by Ernest Thomas 3) Re: Albatros Build by "Dale Beamish" 4) Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea by "Dale Beamish" 5) Alb Schemes by "Dale Beamish" 6) Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea by Lee Mensinger 7) Re: Online Model Build idea by Otisgood@aol.com 8) Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea by Ernest Thomas 9) I need encouragement by "DAVID BURKE" 10) Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea by Ernest Thomas 11) Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea by "Dale Beamish" 12) Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea by "Dale Beamish" 13) Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea by "Dale Beamish" 14) Re: I need encouragement by Otisgood@aol.com 15) Re: I need encouragement by "Dale Beamish" 16) Re: Online Model Build idea by "Mike Dicianna" 17) Re: I need encouragement by "Ray Boorman" 18) Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea by "DAVID BURKE" 19) BPMD Was Re: I need encouragement by "DAVID BURKE" 20) Re: I need encouragement by "DAVID BURKE" 21) RE: Albatros Question not related to group build by Shane Weier 22) Voss' Dr.1 by "DAVID BURKE" 23) Re: I need encouragement by KarrArt@aol.com 24) Re: Online Model Build idea by KarrArt@aol.com 25) ODD Planes!! Help by JVT7532@aol.com 26) Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea by Albatrosdv@aol.com 27) Re: Alb Schemes by Albatrosdv@aol.com 28) Re: I need encouragement by Albatrosdv@aol.com 29) Re: Online Model Build idea - Albatros by "Charles and Linda Duckworth" 30) Re: I need encouragement by Mark Miller 31) Re: ODD Planes!! Help by Dennis Ugulano 32) Re: Alb Schemes by "Dale Beamish" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:59:54 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: The great Albatros build with a spad! Message-ID: <015f01bfb962$c1adf540$4e2eb8a1@darcy> I would like to see it done as a "How To" layout. Section for different stages. Engine, rigging, wood, etc. And then perhaps a final chapter on the schemes. Would be a great way to attract new builders! Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 08 May, 2000 8:58 PM Subject: The great Albatros build with a spad! > I forgot on my previous post, any suggestions/ideas/help on what you want to > see, would be darned welcome! > > Ray nl www.sonicnet.com where else can I listen to Beethovan followed by > Kate Bush, then the Stranglers Yep I know I am confused where music is > concerned! > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 22:11:36 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <391781E7.C03DCDDF@bellsouth.net> Well, thanks to Dale, I know which D-V I'm gonna build. But I've got a lot-o-models on the bench and in queue that need to be dealt with. So I have no choice but to un-sub so I can get it all done. (and it would help if someone could remind me how) It's not good bye, it's just good night. Y'all play nice, and Tom, you behave yourself! E. we'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when............ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:07:59 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Albatros Build Message-ID: <017501bfb963$eca4fe00$4e2eb8a1@darcy> Silver-Gray is the one. Best to check with the profile guru first though! Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 08 May, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Re: Albatros Build > I took down my Hit-Kit Oeffags, of course I looked at the flash and just as > quickly put them back ;(. > Instead I am going to build the correct scale Eduard, now if only I had a > clue which one to model. Does anyone know whether the colours for Jasta 34b > in the Albatros Aces book are accurate?? Silver grey fuselages?? > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:18:15 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <018b01bfb965$38614f00$4e2eb8a1@darcy> O.K. E. which one? Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 08 May, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea > Well, thanks to Dale, I know which D-V I'm gonna build. But I've got a > lot-o-models on the bench and in queue that need to be dealt with. So I have no > choice but to un-sub so I can get it all done. (and it would help if someone > could remind me how) It's not good bye, it's just good night. Y'all play nice, > and Tom, you behave yourself! > E. > we'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when............ > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:23:45 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: "List" Subject: Alb Schemes Message-ID: <01a101bfb965$fd999700$4e2eb8a1@darcy> Don't forget that there are a lot of schemes by our own guru Mr. Pearson! He did the schemes mentioned so far a long time ago! Check out his sites! Dale ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 22:31:49 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <391786A5.CBB23003@wireweb.net> Ernest if you are serious it is wwi-request@pease1.sr.unh.edu and the message portion is: unsubscribe wwi You play nice also. There's a lot of good people out there. Lee M. Ernest Thomas wrote: > Well, thanks to Dale, I know which D-V I'm gonna build. But I've got a > lot-o-models on the bench and in queue that need to be dealt with. So I have no > choice but to un-sub so I can get it all done. (and it would help if someone > could remind me how) It's not good bye, it's just good night. Y'all play nice, > and Tom, you behave yourself! > E. > we'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when............ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:35:17 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <98.4c9c094.2648e175@aol.com> In a message dated 5/8/00 8:49:04 PM Central Daylight Time, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: > I guess that means you all need to email me with your models as in scale > type and proposed markings. Dont worry if you dont have them worked out yet. > Thats part of the game to co-operate to get the information you need. > Put me on the list. Will decide which DV to build in a few days. Leaning toward Hubrich's if I can find a Chicken decal. If not, maybe Bonings or Walthausen's or Neckel's or....or.....or........who knows? 1/48th, of course. Otis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 22:42:08 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <3917890F.4BB6AEC2@bellsouth.net> Dale Beamish wrote: > O.K. E. which one? Tell me how to un-sub first. And I will be turning the pc on once or twice a week if anyone wants to get me, so don't expect an immediate reply. And Peter, I'd like to hear from you about that job on the family estate. But I'll need to know what gilleys and plus fours are before I can commit to anything. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:35:29 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: I need encouragement Message-ID: <006101bfb967$a3c797c0$a485aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Gang, I need cheerleading. I am SICK, TIRED and FED UP trying to align the struts on this Godawful Camel. Dirty, stinking rotten waste of my life it has been and I think that I'll just smash the bugger with a table. I built a jig, I added brass pins, I even tried tacking the cabanes in place, terrible alignment and the thing collapses. This is the low point of the job. And I am out of beer. Rats DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 22:47:59 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <39178A6F.E73F3CAB@bellsouth.net> Lee Mensinger wrote: > Ernest if you are serious it is (snip) Thanks Lee. Now I don't have to tell Dale what I'm building. :) > You play nice also. There's a lot of good people out there. And I intend to f--- with every single one of em! ;-o E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:49:50 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <01e701bfb969$a2575400$4e2eb8a1@darcy> E. Send a message to the list as: wwi-request@pease1.sr.unh.edu with this message in the body . unsubscribe wwi don't forget it is with an i and not a 1. Now which one buddy! Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 08 May, 2000 9:48 PM Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea > > > Dale Beamish wrote: > > > O.K. E. which one? > > Tell me how to un-sub first. > > And I will be turning the pc on once or twice a week if anyone wants to get > me, so don't expect an immediate reply. And Peter, I'd like to hear from you > about that job on the family estate. But I'll need to know what gilleys and > plus fours are before I can commit to anything. > E. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:51:24 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <01eb01bfb969$da39f800$4e2eb8a1@darcy> And Peter, I'd like to hear from you > about that job on the family estate. But I'll need to know what gilleys and > plus fours are before I can commit to anything. > E. I'd steer clear of that one E. Sounds NASTY. Dale ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:57:18 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <022b01bfb96a$ad0f5b80$4e2eb8a1@darcy> > Lee Mensinger wrote: > > > Ernest if you are serious it is (snip) > > Thanks Lee. Now I don't have to tell Dale what I'm building. :) He's NASTY right to the end! He deserves that all fours job! Dale ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:59:36 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I need encouragement Message-ID: <78.4fb36d2.2648e728@aol.com> In a message dated 5/8/00 10:48:20 PM Central Daylight Time, dora9@sprynet.com writes: > I need cheerleading. I am SICK, TIRED and FED UP trying to align the > struts on this Godawful Camel. Dirty, stinking rotten waste of my life it > has been and I think that I'll just smash the bugger with a table. > > I built a jig, I added brass pins, I even tried tacking the cabanes in > place, terrible alignment and the thing collapses. > > This is the low point of the job. And I am out of beer. > Then you need to walk away from it for awhile. Clear your head. Quit thinking about it so hard. Then, when you least expect it, a new idea for solving this problem will pop into your head and you'll have the answer. Go fishing. Otis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:01:27 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: I need encouragement Message-ID: <023501bfb96b$41c17560$4e2eb8a1@darcy> David Is this the one with the fantastic wicker seat? With the magnificent interior? The one that'll clean up at any contest it shows up at? Send it to me! Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID BURKE To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 08 May, 2000 9:52 PM Subject: I need encouragement > Hey Gang, > > I need cheerleading. I am SICK, TIRED and FED UP trying to align the > struts on this Godawful Camel. Dirty, stinking rotten waste of my life it > has been and I think that I'll just smash the bugger with a table. > > I built a jig, I added brass pins, I even tried tacking the cabanes in > place, terrible alignment and the thing collapses. > > This is the low point of the job. And I am out of beer. > > > Rats > > > DB > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:13:30 -0700 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: Subject: Re: Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <002e01bfb96c$f02c39e0$547f3ace@pavilion> I also have info on an all Silbergrau (?) DV flown by Udet prior to the Black one. Marked mainly the same way, only with black chevron on the nose and a black "LO" I believe some early DV aircraft were painted at the factory with the same protective Silbergrau that the Pfalz aircraft were done in. Or maybe in the field? I still plan on doing his black aircraft as I love lozenge and the Silver one had painted wings (I think....have to look at the Dan San Abbot info I have on this one.) MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Online Model Build idea > In a message dated 5/8/00 9:21:38 PM EST, dcalhoun01@snet.net writes: > > << now that I have the Osprey book, I want to do Udet's black DVa - All black, > and not flown by Goring! > Dave Calhoun >> > > All black except for the lozenge wings and tail, Dave. :-) > > Tom C > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:22:47 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: I need encouragement Message-ID: <010f01bfb96e$3b06b660$9b1335d1@bconnected.net> David, Not sure if this will help. Some people swear by putting the cabanes in first. I have never got that to work. Too fiddly and not enough room to get the jig in place. The following should work for a single bay aircraft. I build a loose jig out of lego, strips of paper and balsa, then rest the wing on top, this is outside of the bay if you are using lego, doesn't matter if you aren't, just make sure you can slide the paper and wood shims out. Then I put thin strips of paper over the top wing and tape them down loosely to the work surface or Lego board in my case. Then I put in the struts tighten the paper strips up a bit make sure its going to work, I.e. wing is lined up no outsized struts etc. Then loosen the paper a bit and pop one strut out at a time. Apply small amount of CA (Gap filling) pop the strut back in usually darn well holding my breath. If I am feeling real brave I zap the join with kicker then leave it for 10 mins. if not I leave it an hour before moving on to the next strut. Once All struts are in and dry, I pop the cabanes in one at a time again being as careful as I can. The key here is the Cabanes must be the right length since they should be a snug fit poping in or out. Not wedged in hard or dropping out. if they aren't (Usually all toko Cabanes fail here) I modify them or scratch build them till they are If at any time you start getting impatient, want to kill small cuddly animals etc. Walk away and come back the next day! Or as the English would say have a cup of tea! HtH's wouldn't want to see a camel bite the big one. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: DAVID BURKE Subject: I need encouragement ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:20:34 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <001201bfb96d$ed1df300$8c85aec7@dora9sprynet.com> -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:52 PM Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea > > >Lee Mensinger wrote: > >> Ernest if you are serious it is (snip) > >Thanks Lee. Now I don't have to tell Dale what I'm building. :) > >> You play nice also. There's a lot of good people out there. > >And I intend to f--- with every single one of em! ;-o >E. > > THAT'S MY BOY!!! DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:22:54 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: BPMD Was Re: I need encouragement Message-ID: <002101bfb96e$42a95d00$8c85aec7@dora9sprynet.com> -----Original Message----- From: Otisgood@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: Re: I need encouragement >In a message dated 5/8/00 10:48:20 PM Central Daylight Time, >dora9@sprynet.com writes: > >> I need cheerleading. I am SICK, TIRED and FED UP trying to align the >> struts on this Godawful Camel. Dirty, stinking rotten waste of my life it >> has been and I think that I'll just smash the bugger with a table. >> >> I built a jig, I added brass pins, I even tried tacking the cabanes in >> place, terrible alignment and the thing collapses. >> >> This is the low point of the job. And I am out of beer. >> >Then you need to walk away from it for awhile. Clear your head. Quit thinking >about it so hard. Then, when you least expect it, a new idea for solving this >problem will pop into your head and you'll have the answer. Go fishing. > >Otis ...And of course, after CAREFULLY measuring the jig, I found that one side was about 1/8 inch higher than the other. Now it's going along better. I am suffering from BPMD: Bi-Polar Modelling Disorder. Hell, I even started thinking about building a JET. DB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 23:24:44 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: I need encouragement Message-ID: <002601bfb96e$81bf4400$8c85aec7@dora9sprynet.com> -----Original Message----- From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:23 PM Subject: Re: I need encouragement >David, > Not sure if this will help. Some people swear by putting the cabanes in >first. I have never got that to work. Too fiddly and not enough room to get >the jig in place. >The following should work for a single bay aircraft. > >I build a loose jig out of lego, strips of paper and balsa, then rest the >wing on top, this is outside of the bay if you are using lego, doesn't >matter if you aren't, just make sure you can slide the paper and wood shims >out. >Then I put thin strips of paper over the top wing and tape them down loosely >to the work surface or Lego board in my case. >Then I put in the struts tighten the paper strips up a bit make sure its >going to work, I.e. wing is lined up no outsized struts etc. >Then loosen the paper a bit and pop one strut out at a time. >Apply small amount of CA (Gap filling) pop the strut back in usually darn >well holding my breath. >If I am feeling real brave I zap the join with kicker then leave it for 10 >mins. if not I leave it an hour before moving on to the next strut. >Once All struts are in and dry, I pop the cabanes in one at a time again >being as careful as I can. The key here is the Cabanes must be the right >length since they should be a snug fit poping in or out. Not wedged in hard >or dropping out. if they aren't (Usually all toko Cabanes fail here) >I modify them or scratch build them till they are > >If at any time you start getting impatient, want to kill small cuddly >animals etc. Walk away and come back the next day! >Or as the English would say have a cup of tea! > >HtH's wouldn't want to see a camel bite the big one. > >Ray >----- Original Message ----- >From: DAVID BURKE >Subject: I need encouragement > Thanks a bunch, Ray. After looking at my flawed jig, I figure that it was human error - the kind usually committed by babboons. DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:23:55 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Albatros Question not related to group build Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1FC6@mimhexch.mim.com.au> SP, > What is the current accepted thought on the color of the blue > used under the > wings of early Albatri? > > Powder blue, like the high altitude Rumplers or a bluer sky blue? I use the bluer of the WW2 Luftwaffe underside colours - or something mixed to look like it - because it matches the colour I've seen on restored machines *and* because it may be a case of the same colour surviving between wars (like the OAW grey / RLM02 conjecture) BUT.... I have no better scientific or historical reason than that, so YMMV Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 01:38:40 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I need encouragement Message-ID: <25.56b22f4.2648fe60@aol.com> In a message dated 5/8/00 8:48:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dora9@sprynet.com writes: << Hey Gang, I need cheerleading. >> ok......gimme a "C' gimme an 'A'........gimme a ....oh never mind- just do the #@%^&^ modle right and take pictures or we're all gonna find you and do nasty things to the webbing between your thumb and finger involving a very large mosquito, tweezers and tabasco. RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 01:44:00 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <3a.4daea90.2648ffa0@aol.com> In a message dated 5/8/00 5:49:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Remember that Ray Rimell has announced an upcoming Jasta 5 Special. I suggest that this will be a spectacular book and worth every cent if you like fancy markings. >> it's better have that cow/steer/bull! RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 01:55:35 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: ODD Planes!! Help Message-ID: <36.5a30b9d.26490257@aol.com> Greetings to all, I was wondering if anyone has had the opportunity to checkout Roseplanes, Siemen Schuckert DDR.1? I am very interested in this kit but wonder about the vacuformed wings? Having never built a vacuform kit before, although I do own a few, I am wondering just how hard this one would be? I have built resin kits before but never got around to doing my vacuforms as they just seemed to be too much work. Since this is only the wings would this be a good place to start? I want the kit anyway and will buy it, but I would like to know what this kit is like and how hard it would be for someone with no experience on vacuforms to build. Thanks for all your help, also any good ideas for colors and decals for the aircraft are gratefully excepted. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 02:31:03 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: TTFN! was; Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <54.39acef6.26490aa7@aol.com> In a message dated 5/8/00 10:14:47 PM EST, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << Y'all play nice, and Tom, you behave yourself! >> Yassuh, your Heretick-ness! Hey - I bet you can't stay away that long. You just have to admit you'll never get them all done. :-) Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 02:34:37 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alb Schemes Message-ID: Pardon me for sound not entirely connected, but is this Albatros D.Vs, or Albatri? i.e., any kind of Albatros? I say this with an OAW Albatros sitting here for the longest time, I think I have run across a scheme in the Osprey book, so I could include it with the Veltjens D.V LMK Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 02:41:46 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I need encouragement Message-ID: In a message dated 5/8/00 10:48:20 PM EST, dora9@sprynet.com writes: << This is the low point of the job. And I am out of beer. >> Do not take this as any sort of moral judgement, but every time I get biplane wings to get togther right, I can only do it sober. Otherwise it looks like it's flying in 10 directions. :-) Tom C ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 06:36:20 -0500 From: "Charles and Linda Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: Online Model Build idea - Albatros Message-ID: <007801bfb9aa$ce3f5860$5d2c57d8@cnlduckwor> You're looking at plate 25 Jacobs' machine; I'm looking at pages 58 and 59 and plate 32 'Jacobson' machine - still like to know if the radiator was centered. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Online Model Build idea - Albatros >On Mon, 8 May 2000 21:20:46 -0400 (EDT), Charles and Linda Duckworth >wrote: > >> I have an Eduard DIII (early-centered radiator) and DV tucked away in the >> basement. Would like to do an early DIII does Jacobson's D.2090 (Osprey >> profile 32) have the off set radiator or centered or Wusthoff's with the >> black stripe around the fuselage (Osprey profile 9)? > >The Jacobs machine in the Osprey book was a *D.II*. Osprey mislabled >it as a D.III. Not much is know about Jacobs' D.III, although he did >fly one for a short time. > > >MEB > > ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 2000 04:41:56 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I need encouragement Message-ID: <20000509114156.7728.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Mon, 08 May 2000, Otisgood@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 5/8/00 10:48:20 PM Central Daylight Time, > dora9@sprynet.com writes: > > > I need cheerleading. I am SICK, TIRED and FED UP trying to align the > > struts on this Godawful Camel. Dirty, stinking rotten waste of my life it > > has been and I think that I'll just smash the bugger with a table. > > > > I built a jig, I added brass pins, I even tried tacking the cabanes in > > place, terrible alignment and the thing collapses. > > > > This is the low point of the job. And I am out of beer. > > > Then you need to walk away from it for awhile. Clear your head. Quit thinking > about it so hard. Then, when you least expect it, a new idea for solving this > problem will pop into your head and you'll have the answer. Go fishing. > > Otis excelent advice But most importantly - go to sleep. I find the vast majority of my screw-ups happen after 11:00. I swear my brain functions at about 1/2 capacity when it gets late. I've gotten to a point where I save "mindless work" for later in the evening and try to tackle anything difficult early - when I'm still awake. Whatch out tho - there's truth to that old saying "never stop on a hill" I've got some 1/2 finished projects from colledge days which I still just don't have the heart to face. Mark Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:07:27 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: ODD Planes!! Help Message-ID: <200005090807_MC2-A451-9F9C@compuserve.com> Jon, >> I would like to know what this kit is like and how hard it would be for someone with no experience on vacuforms to build. << The SS DDR-1 was my first and only scratchbuild kit. Mainly because the fuselage was not very difficult to build. The wings are the easy part. Using Roseplane vac wing sheet, find the correct width for the wings. Cut them to size, sand and shape. These are a great item to have in your parts box. Next mark the rib and control surface locations. Cut out the control surfaces if you desire. I then glued thin round stock (.010) at the rib locations. I used Weld-on 3 ( a liquid glue). After the glue has dried about a day, sand off most of the round stock and the results is a very convincing looking rib. For undersurfaces of the wing, I just make a single cut with a scribing tool. You can see the results on my web site. I have resisted the charms of the Roseplane model but it may get me. That is a model I never thought would be kitted in any form or shape. It is a very impressive looking kit and my thanks to Barry for taking the plunge. Any questions, let me know. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 2/6/00 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 06:09:56 -0600 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Alb Schemes Message-ID: <000b01bfb9af$7fa68ca0$b02bb8a1@darcy> If I have a vote I would say any version. Austrian or German Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 09 May, 2000 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Alb Schemes > Pardon me for sound not entirely connected, but is this Albatros D.Vs, or > Albatri? i.e., any kind of Albatros? I say this with an OAW Albatros > sitting here for the longest time, I think I have run across a scheme in the > Osprey book, so I could include it with the Veltjens D.V > > LMK > > Tom Cleaver > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2324 **********************