WWI Digest 2315 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Pegasus BE2e by Dennis Ugulano 2) Re: WWI digest 2313 by JVT7532@aol.com 3) Re: Dufaux Photos by bucky@ptdprolog.net 4) Mercedes Engine - Albatross DVa by "Thomas Zaccone" 5) Re: Dufaux Photos by Mark Miller 6) Re: Mercedes Engine - Albatross DVa by Ernest Thomas 7) Re: Mercedes Engine - Albatross DVa by Mark Miller 8) Re: WWI digest 2313 by "Ray Boorman" 9) Re: Pegasus BE2e by "Ray Boorman" 10) Slow list so new thread..... Commonwealth tactics? by "Ray Boorman" 11) Re: WWI digest 2313 by ERIC HIGHT 12) Picking Roland a nit--ammo box? by skarver@banet.net 13) Truly Insane EBay price by "Ray Boorman" 14) Re: Glencoe blues, was, WS coverage, was, Re: Glencoe Albatros by KarrArt@aol.com 15) Re: new art on RK's site by KarrArt@aol.com 16) Re: Glencoe blues, was, WS coverage, was, Re: Glencoe Albatros by KarrArt@aol.com 17) Re: Truly Insane EBay price by Brent & Tina Theobald 18) Re: Truly Insane EBay price by "DAVID BURKE" 19) Re: Truly Insane EBay price by "Ray Boorman" 20) Online Model Build idea by "Ray Boorman" 21) Re: new art on RK's site by Zulis@aol.com 22) Re: Glencoe blues, was, WS coverage, was, Re: Glencoe Albatros by "laskodi" 23) Re: Windsock Datafile for SE5 by "David Calhoun" 24) Did the virus get anyone? by Shane Weier 25) Re: Windsock Datafile for SE5 by Mark Miller 26) Re: Slow list so new thread..... Commonwealth tactics? by Albatrosdv@aol.com 27) Re: new art on RK's site by Albatrosdv@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 11:44:02 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Pegasus BE2e Message-ID: <200005061144_MC2-A3F5-F960@compuserve.com> Richard, >> The Miekraft sits on the shelf looking as ugly as ever. << The Miekraft kit took more clean up than a scratchbuilt. I'm proud of you for completing it. I have several that have never seen the light of day. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 2/6/00 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 11:51:30 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI digest 2313 Message-ID: <98.4ad9edc.26459982@aol.com> Greetings to all. I have some questions and I'm sure the group can help me. My daughter came home last night and presented me with a Heller, Roland C.II. It looks to be a fair kit and was wondering about some replacement parts such as the guns to start with, I checked Aeroclub and they have many types of guns but not knowing which guns are on the aircraft leaves me in the air. And having absolutely no reference material on this plane I was wondering who has built it before and what aftermarket parts are needed to make it presentable. I will be buying the Eduard kit once they release the Profile pack and hopefully have saved enough to get the Datafiles to, but that has to wait since I bought eight of them this month. Thanks for all your help. Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 12:03:51 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dufaux Photos Message-ID: <390DAAE7.5E5AE6A6@ptdprolog.net> Mark Miller wrote: > What a bizzare little plane. I don't remeber noticing it before Bizarre is too gentle a word for that contraption! Nice work sp, as usual. I also like the warm yellow color you used. - very cooland congrats on finishing something. I haven't touched a piece of plastic in three weeks. I think it's time for a surge. I guess I could start by turning off this infernal machine. Ah yes, it is that time of the year again. Soft started for the two YMCA girls softball team I coach. I find that takes away from plastic time....4 nights a week of fun outdoors. Weekends end up being modeling time...except this weekend when I have to help my daughter build a "working catapult" for school. Told me about it yesterday, due on Monday....Grumble..... Mike Muth nb: Nieuport 24 bis in 1/48 and Jacobs' Triplane in 1/48 nu: off-topic Mustang for a friend Muth & Zulick softball record so far: 2 wins 0 losses ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 12:00:55 -0400 From: "Thomas Zaccone" To: Subject: Mercedes Engine - Albatross DVa Message-ID: <003301bfb774$4388ee80$501c4f0c@default> Hi, I'e been a lurker on this list for some time now, and have learned a great deal from your posts. I used to build plastic models in my younger days, and have recently started again. I have developed an primary interest in WWI planes and ships. I just bought a an Albatros DVa kit by Model Airways and was wondering where I might find some detailed information on the in-line Mercedes engine ( 180 hp 6 cylinder) which powered this plane. The kit comes with a highly detailed set of parts for this engine and I want to know if I have to make any alterations to it, and what color to paint the parts. Thanks, Tom Zaccone ------------------------------ Date: 6 May 2000 09:28:00 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Dufaux Photos Message-ID: <20000506162800.18951.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Sat, 06 May 2000, bucky@ptdprolog.net wrote: > > > > Mark Miller wrote: > > > What a bizzare little plane. I don't remeber noticing it before > > Bizarre is too gentle a word for that contraption! Nice work sp, as usual. I also like the warm yellow color you used. - very cooland congrats on finishing something. I haven't > touched a piece of plastic in three weeks. I think it's time for a surge. I guess I could start by turning off this infernal machine. > Ah yes, it is that time of the year again. Soft started for the two YMCA girls softball team I coach. I find that takes away from plastic time....4 nights a week of fun outdoors. > Weekends end up being modeling time...except this weekend when I have to help my daughter build a "working catapult" for school. Told me about it yesterday, due on > Monday....Grumble..... > Mike Muth > nb: Nieuport 24 bis in 1/48 and Jacobs' Triplane in 1/48 > nu: off-topic Mustang for a friend > > Muth & Zulick softball record so far: 2 wins 0 losses Yea my life sounds similar T ball game for the 5yr old this afternoon. And the only model I've done has been to help a friends kid make a Hubble Space Telescope model for school. Little did I know the stupid solar panels mounts got broken in the box. What a pain - now I got to drill em out and put in brass pins. And I know the darn thing won't last 5 minutes in a classroom full of 3rd graders. More work than I bargained for. On the up side the Kid realy likes models and is pretty good at it - nice to see. And it is sudenly summer here 85 degrees and sunny. Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 11:32:10 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Mercedes Engine - Albatross DVa Message-ID: <39144909.D83BE170@bellsouth.net> Thomas Zaccone wrote: > I'e been a lurker on this list for some time now Welcome to the bright lights. > I just bought a an Albatros DVa kit by Model Airways and was wondering where > I might find some detailed information on the in-line Mercedes engine ( 180 > hp 6 cylinder) which powered this plane. Here ya go......;http://home.xnet.com/~tmblweed/mercedes.html Bon apetit` E. ------------------------------ Date: 6 May 2000 09:40:56 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Mercedes Engine - Albatross DVa Message-ID: <20000506164056.24581.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Sat, 06 May 2000, "Thomas Zaccone" wrote: > > Hi, > > I'e been a lurker on this list for some time now, and have learned a great > deal from your posts. I used to build plastic models in my younger days, > and have recently started again. I have developed an primary interest in > WWI planes and ships. > > I just bought a an Albatros DVa kit by Model Airways and was wondering where > I might find some detailed information on the in-line Mercedes engine ( 180 > hp 6 cylinder) which powered this plane. The kit comes with a highly > detailed set of parts for this engine and I want to know if I have to make > any alterations to it, and what color to paint the parts. > > > Thanks, > > > Tom Zaccone Whoa Boy did you come to the right place! There's a still active thread on the relative accuracy of the Mercedes engins provided in various kits And there was another about paint choices for inline egines within the last couple of days. Check back through the archives and you should be able to find a lot of info Also Allan's site has links to several sites with some pretty good pictures Mark _______________________________________________________________________ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 09:45:31 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: WWI digest 2313 Message-ID: <004101bfb77a$7e1bafa0$9b1335d1@bconnected.net> Jon, The Roland was usually equipped with a Parrabellum for the observer and Spandau LMG for the pilot. However you could model it with hooped rollover cage and no spandau. This would be an early CII Or add to that some observers would use captured lewis guns instead of the Parrabellum. The lewis was lighter and some observers preferred them if they could get them.. I would order the Aeroclub guns, you can also order the fotocut Etched Spandau barrels. If you go hog wild get a Mercedes and pilot seat whilst you at it. You can scratchbuild or add to the kit engine blank what you will be able to see of the mercedes engine. The cockpit can be added too to your level of masochism in the same way btw. The Airfix now heller model is one of Airfix's best btw Regards Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 8:56 AM Subject: Re: WWI digest 2313 > Greetings to all. > I have some questions and I'm sure the group can help me. My daughter came > home last night and presented me with a Heller, Roland C.II. It looks to be a > fair kit and was wondering about some replacement parts such as the guns to > start with, I checked Aeroclub and they have many types of guns but not > knowing which guns are on the aircraft leaves me in the air. And having > absolutely no reference material on this plane I was wondering who has built > it before and what aftermarket parts are needed to make it presentable. I > will be buying the Eduard kit once they release the Profile pack and > hopefully have saved enough to get the Datafiles to, but that has to wait > since I bought eight of them this month. Thanks for all your help. > > Best regards, > Jon > Jon V. Theisen > 7532 Lawndale Ave. > Phila., PA 19111-2706 > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 09:58:54 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Pegasus BE2e Message-ID: <005101bfb77c$5cdedb80$9b1335d1@bconnected.net> Pfft ;) I suppose now I am just going to have to be patient eh! Ray >From: Dennis Ugulano > No can do. 100 is still under wraps. I don't want to spoil the > surprise. I want 100 to be a model that I will remember. # 50 was a > scratchbuild and I can't forget that one. # 100 will stand out. I > promise. I hope to have it done in June. It has been a long time since I > completed anything. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 10:20:31 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Slow list so new thread..... Commonwealth tactics? Message-ID: <006601bfb77f$61e217c0$9b1335d1@bconnected.net> Last night I was reading a borrowed Over The front from 1999. Anyway in the letters section there seemed to be almost a war going on about Commonwealth Airforces overclaiming. I don't want to get into that cauldron as it were but the gist of the letters was that the Commonwealth forces were practicing almost Somme like throw their pilots at the enemy to weaken them. From this the Germans were always on the defensive and fought mostly over there own lines. Because of the losses encountered by the Commonwealth forces, official circles encouraged overclaiming to boost moral. My question here is would the above be simplified but correct or was there another reason for the sending of Commonwealth airpower continually over German held land. I mean reconnaissance was carried out by both sides so this can't be the reason. Also what about the French and Belgium Airpower. Did they use the same tactics or were they different? Regards Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 10:17:00 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WWI digest 2313 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000506101700.0069fe64@pop.amug.org> jon, you may want to check www.amug.org/~copperst/ for detail parts. the 1/48th scale details are on sale for 20% off and an addtional 10% off for dicta ira. reminder that all the pe frets from the kits are also available seperately. hope this helps. eric At 11:55 AM 5/6/00 -0400, you wrote: >Greetings to all. >I have some questions and I'm sure the group can help me. My daughter came >home last night and presented me with a Heller, Roland C.II. It looks to be a >fair kit and was wondering about some replacement parts such as the guns to >start with, I checked Aeroclub and they have many types of guns but not >knowing which guns are on the aircraft leaves me in the air. And having >absolutely no reference material on this plane I was wondering who has built >it before and what aftermarket parts are needed to make it presentable. I >will be buying the Eduard kit once they release the Profile pack and >hopefully have saved enough to get the Datafiles to, but that has to wait >since I bought eight of them this month. Thanks for all your help. > > Best regards, > Jon >Jon V. Theisen >7532 Lawndale Ave. >Phila., PA 19111-2706 > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 13:21:45 -0400 From: skarver@banet.net To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Picking Roland a nit--ammo box? Message-ID: <391454A8.C61082C@banet.net> Anyone seen one lately? That's about it. Stef ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 10:27:44 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Truly Insane EBay price Message-ID: <006c01bfb780$64205280$9b1335d1@bconnected.net> I might like and want a Meikraft Caproni, but wow this is insane to my way of thinking. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321934311 Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 13:30:34 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Glencoe blues, was, WS coverage, was, Re: Glencoe Albatros Message-ID: In a message dated 5/6/00 5:48:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Otisgood@aol.com writes: << I have compared the Eduard D-III contours to a scale drawing in Datafile and to me it looks almost right on. I laid a fuselage half on top of the drawing and it matched almost exactly. What am I missing? >> I think in this case the Datafile D.III drawings are a little off. Looking at photos and other drawings (Waugh's D.II?), the Datafile D.II fuselage profile actually comes closer to being correct. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 13:30:33 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: new art on RK's site Message-ID: <77.3bb968a.2645b0b9@aol.com> In a message dated 5/6/00 6:17:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, albatros1212@altavista.com writes: << Every time I look at the plans for the Bessonneau Hanger in aircraft archive v3 I think of how cool it would be to build it in 1/48 scale. Don't know where I would put it though - the thing would be huge. Photos of it look pretty strange - like it's covered whith a patchwork quilt. A perfect candidate for a little aesthetic historical modification (uh oh). Anybody seen any period shots of the insides of one of these. I 'd like to know genericaly how they're laid out. Mark >> I took a couple of lousy photos of that hanger before I covered it- just not good enough to show around, which is a shame because I built up the trusses in the same manner as the real ones. The thing is rather large- it needs a photo taken with a finger or something in the shot to demonstrate the true size. Period interior shots were rare- I only found a few dim ones, including one taken at Christmas that showed a HUGE decorated tree inside. Text descriptions provided a few clues about what was crammed in there- things like spare wings tied to the overhead structure, and Rickenbacker mentions a Victrola that lived just inside the front curtain....but none of this beats a good clear photo! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 13:30:36 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Glencoe blues, was, WS coverage, was, Re: Glencoe Albatros Message-ID: <96.4725092.2645b0bc@aol.com> In a message dated 5/6/00 6:58:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, laskodi@launchnet.com writes: << I agree completely Otis. While I have noticed many of the same things as RK, none of the discrepancies were gretaer than my "fix-it" point, which is 1 mm. So as far as I'm concerned if it's within 1mm, that's very good in my book! YMMV! FWIW -----Bob >> I kind of agree, its just that shapes and contours can be tricky. If, say, wingspan is 1mm too long or short (depending on scale of course!), it may not be a big deal, but if a wheel is 1mm out of round or 1mm flat along the edge somewhere, it would really be noticable....and sometimes the irregularities are cumulative- 1mm out here throws something else by 2mm which throws another thing off by 3mm and so on. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 12:58:41 -0500 From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Truly Insane EBay price Message-ID: <39145D51.CE4E40F0@airmail.net> Howdy! And to think I paid $64 about two weeks ago. I felt that was pretty steep, but it's the only game in town. What do you do? I have considered going back and seeing if the other two are still there and putting them up on Ebay myself. That way I could earn some money back to pay for own copy. Later! Brent PS: There's lots of good Czech Master stuff on Ebay right now. Do we have a list members pact not to bid against each other? :) Ray Boorman wrote: > I might like and want a Meikraft Caproni, but wow this is insane to my way > of thinking. > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321934311 > > Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 13:10:44 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Truly Insane EBay price Message-ID: <001901bfb786$66b1eb20$6386aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Is that a plane or just a model? DB -----Original Message----- From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, May 06, 2000 12:29 PM Subject: Truly Insane EBay price >I might like and want a Meikraft Caproni, but wow this is insane to my way >of thinking. >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321934311 > >Ray > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 11:21:34 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Truly Insane EBay price Message-ID: <000701bfb787$e8f68040$9b1335d1@bconnected.net> I have an Airmodel Resin copy of the Czechmasters that's for sale on ebay by the same person. Sheesh I didn't realize I had gold dust. Nice model but I paid $10 cdn so far the one on ebay is up to $20. It hasn't even hit its reserve yet either! Ray. (I don't think I want to bid on most of these the prices are way insane) ----- Original Message ----- From: Brent & Tina Theobald To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 11:03 AM Subject: Re: Truly Insane EBay price > Howdy! > > And to think I paid $64 about two weeks ago. I felt that was pretty steep, but > it's the only game in town. What do you do? I have considered going back and > seeing if the other two are still there and putting them up on Ebay myself. > That way I could earn some money back to pay for own copy. > > Later! > > Brent > > PS: There's lots of good Czech Master stuff on Ebay right now. Do we have a > list members pact not to bid against each other? :) > > Ray Boorman wrote: > > > I might like and want a Meikraft Caproni, but wow this is insane to my way > > of thinking. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321934311 > > > > Ray > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 12:45:19 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Online Model Build idea Message-ID: <000701bfb793$9c9a59e0$9b1335d1@bconnected.net> I cut and pasted the following email from Shane the Youngers ship building list. However it would seem to be something we could do on this list too. btw I am sure I have seen Chris post to this list to. We might have to have at least two scales though. Anyone game?? << Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:25:45 -0700 From: Christopher Crofoot Subject: Re: On Line kit build? Hi all, I have an idea that I thought I might throw out... I also subscribe to a space modelers newsgroup and last year they collectively decided to have a SMOKIN (Space Modelers Online Kit Build) Okay I can't remember the Damn acronym. But I think it would be a kind of cool idea if we as a group did something similar. They used the inexpensive and readily available Apollo-Soyuz Test Project. All of the references, pics, line drawings etc were posted to a site so that all the builders had access to it. The group then used the net for discussion, dissemination of ideas etc. The whole idea was to swamp the nationals with a single kit in there category just for the exposure. I know that there was a similar idea with fletcher class destroyers here. But I thought it might be able to take the build a step further....using it as a tutorial, reference and detailing section for the SMML board. It would be aimed at the beginner all the way to national winner level depending on how much detail one wanted to include. Additionally, since so many people were involved a dealer decided to give a discount on a particular item to detail the kit further. Perhaps some in the industry would decide to do the same. Is there any interest in such a build? Would the SMML site hold the relevant details, pics etc? And finally just to wet appetites.... Which kit to build? The fletcher is the obvious answer but perhaps a RN frigate or IJN Lt cruiser. My idea would be a Modern US O.H. Perry FFG. The kits available, GMM has inexpensive detail parts as does WEM, and there are a lot of variants possible... What does everybody think? Chris >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 16:21:58 EDT From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: new art on RK's site Message-ID: <78.4e5390e.2645d8e6@aol.com> In a message dated 00-05-06 13:36:21 EDT, you write: << The thing is rather large- it needs a photo taken with a finger or something in the shot to demonstrate the true size. >> Of course, this is precisely the reason why you will see my finger in frame in most of my photographs..... of anything......cars...... Niagara Falls..... family gatherings..... yeah...that's the ticket... for scale....... DZ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 13:39:20 -0700 From: "laskodi" To: Subject: Re: Glencoe blues, was, WS coverage, was, Re: Glencoe Albatros Message-ID: <003501bfb79b$288b60a0$353819d0@laskodi> I agree completely, RK. Since I do not have an artist's eye like you do (and never will either!) and am an engineer, I rely solely on measurements (hard data, boy you can tell I'm an engineer!) when I do my modeling. But yes, 1mm here, 1mm there can add up and make a difference. It's just that I don't go there because IMHO it's not worth the time investment. I just love the Eduard Albies and didn't want people to think the profile was totally hosed and not buy them! ----Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 10:36 AM Subject: Re: Glencoe blues, was, WS coverage, was, Re: Glencoe Albatros > In a message dated 5/6/00 6:58:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > laskodi@launchnet.com writes: > > << I agree completely Otis. While I have noticed many of the same things as > RK, > none of the discrepancies were gretaer than my "fix-it" point, which is 1 > mm. So as far as I'm concerned if it's within 1mm, that's very good in my > book! YMMV! > FWIW > -----Bob >> > > I kind of agree, its just that shapes and contours can be tricky. If, say, > wingspan is 1mm too long or short (depending on scale of course!), it may not > be a big deal, but if a wheel is 1mm out of round or 1mm flat along the edge > somewhere, it would really be noticable....and sometimes the irregularities > are cumulative- 1mm out here throws something else by 2mm which throws > another thing off by 3mm and so on. > RK > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 17:14:03 -0700 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Windsock Datafile for SE5 Message-ID: <005601bfb7b9$28636aa0$6c0c3ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Mark, I just looked through the Windsock RAF SE5a special, and I think it has what you are looking for - the detail photos in the back include a bunch of wires going under the seat, the adjustable tailplane wheel, and if you look closely you can see some pulleys. Also color photos of interior & plenty of photos of strut attachment points & early style radiator photo. I'm not sure what you mean by CAD file. Thanks, Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: Mark Miller To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, May 06, 2000 5:50 AM Subject: Re: Windsock Datafile for SE5 >On Fri, 05 May 2000, "David Calhoun" wrote: > >> >> Hi Bob, >> This datafile only covers the SE5's, for SE5a's you should get the Datafile >> Special, which is better than Datafile #10 . Even has color photo of a >> SE5a. >> Dave Calhoun >> -----Original Message----- > >I'm currently in the middle of two projrcts involving Se5/Se5a. > >The Linburg kit which is a late production Se5. direct drive Hispano-sussa >and the CAD file which has a geared Hispano sussa. >I based both of theses projects on: >Windsock datafile #10 >Aircraft Archive V2 >copy of Hasegawa plans >Squadron Se5a in action >Wylam drawings > >Still have questions on: >wing superstructure/fittings - for CAD >radiator instalation for both engins - for CAD and kit >cabling/pulleys under seat for CAD > >I was thinking of getting one of the two newer data files and was wondering if one or the other has the data I'm looking for. Budgets being what they are it would be good if I only needed to get one of them. > >Then again it might just break my heart being the Linburg kit is far to close to being done to go back and correct anything now. > >Mark > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > >Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! >http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go > >_______________________________________________________________________ > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 07:41:52 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Did the virus get anyone? Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1FAC@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Hi all, It was so quiet yesterday that I started to wonder whether everyone got zapped or was carefully sitting on their hands to prevent infection. You didn't need to open the virus to get in trouble BTW. The geniuses who look after our firewalling cut us off from the internet for 12 hours while they installed scanning software and checked our 5000 PC's for problems (NONE !) then switched us back on only to discover that they hadn't set things up properly and a half day of mail which *should* have been buffered and able to flood in when the gate opened - was *not* and everyone lost a bunch of incoming mail Thanks to the archive I can find out what you've all been saying, but if anyone emailed me off list yesterday it's probably gone to the great big bit bucket. Sorry ! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. E-Mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 6 May 2000 15:06:26 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Windsock Datafile for SE5 Message-ID: <20000506220626.16960.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Sat, 06 May 2000, "David Calhoun" wrote: > > Hi Mark, > I just looked through the Windsock RAF SE5a special, and I think it has what > you are looking for - the detail photos in the back include a bunch of wires > going under the seat, the adjustable tailplane wheel, and if you look > closely you can see some pulleys. Also color photos of interior & plenty of > photos of strut attachment points & early style radiator photo. I'm not > sure what you mean by CAD file. > Thanks, > Dave Calhoun > > -----Original Message----- Hi David Thanks for the info, sounds like the Special is the way to go for me. As far as CAD goes - I believe the acronim stands for Computer Aided Design although I think I remeber someone saying Computer Aided Drafting. But it genericaly refers to any 3D Computer model. The Images at the bottom of my page on Allen's site were generated from this type of model. And actualy you can see for yourself what's missing - I'd realy like to finish that file Thanks again Mark http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Miller/index.html _______________________________________________________________________ Why pay when you don't have to? Get AltaVista Free Internet Access now! http://jump.altavista.com/freeaccess4.go _______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 18:07:16 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Slow list so new thread..... Commonwealth tactics? Message-ID: In a message dated 5/6/00 12:20:02 PM EST, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: << My question here is would the above be simplified but correct or was there another reason for the sending of Commonwealth airpower continually over German held land. I mean reconnaissance was carried out by both sides so this can't be the reason. >> Trenchard, head of the RFC, believed in the offensive, which meant going over the enemy's lines. You don't achieve strategic air supremacy sitting on your side of the lines. Like in WW2 - the Luftwaffe could have defeated the 8th AF over Germany in daylight raids and it would not have impacted the ultimate outcome of the war other than to extend it. When you are reacting to the other guy (basically what the Germans were doing), you are not setting the terms and conditions of battle. The leadership of the German air force never had a clear understanding of the real use of airpower, which Trenchard did have. (Further proof that, if you have to fight a war, fighting Germans is the best way - they always thing they're so smart when they aren't.) Basically, the Germans are good on tactics and technology, but their strategy is usually make-it-up-as-you-go-along; the two best examples of this are WW1 and WW2. And they get points for painting their airplanes prettier. Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 18:11:52 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: new art on RK's site Message-ID: <25.5528cf6.2645f2a8@aol.com> In a message dated 5/6/00 12:33:56 PM EST, KarrArt@aol.com writes: << Period interior shots were rare- I only found a few dim ones, including one taken at Christmas that showed a HUGE decorated tree inside. Text descriptions provided a few clues about what was crammed in there- things like spare wings tied to the overhead structure, and Rickenbacker mentions a Victrola that lived just inside the front curtain....but none of this beats a good clear photo! RK >> I am *still* a believer that you should have made half that roof out of clear plastic so we who look at the thing could see all that. There is *no way* to see in that hangar, even when the cover is off the diorama! :-) Tom C ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2315 **********************