WWI Digest 2298 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR by Albatrosdv@aol.com 2) Peter Crow's DR-1 by Otisgood@aol.com 3) Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR by Otisgood@aol.com 4) Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR by Peter Crow 5) Re: Peter Crow's DR-1 by Peter Crow 6) Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR by Otisgood@aol.com 7) Re: Peter Crow's DR-1 by Otisgood@aol.com 8) Re: REMOVE by Lee Mensinger 9) Re: REMOVE by Lee Mensinger 10) Re: REMOVE by Otisgood@aol.com 11) Re: Swallow. by ERIC HIGHT 12) Re: What is available? by bucky@ptdprolog.net 13) WW1 Engines by Russell W Niles 14) Re: 1914,U.S. & the Zimmerman Note by DavidL1217@aol.com 15) Re: WW1 Engines by Ernest Thomas 16) Re: 1914,U.S. & the Zimmerman Note by Ernest Thomas 17) Roland CII "Accessories"? by skarver@banet.net 18) a secret mission.... by KarrArt@aol.com 19) Re: Roland CII "Accessories"? by "Limon3" 20) Re: a secret mission.... by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: Roland CII "Accessories"? by Ernest Thomas 22) Re: What is available? by "DAVID BURKE" 23) Re: a secret mission.... by "DAVID BURKE" 24) Re: WW1 Engines by Dave Watts 25) Re: Roland CII "Accessories"? by Ernest Thomas 26) Re: WW1 Engines by Ernest Thomas 27) Re: What is available? by "Len Smith" 28) Re: Roland CII "Accessories"? by Otisgood@aol.com 29) Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR by Ernest Thomas 30) Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR by Peter Crow 31) APMA site re-launch by Shane & Lorna Jenkins ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:53:12 EDT From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR Message-ID: <31.46054c3.263b7058@aol.com> In a message dated 4/28/00 5:45:55 PM EST, Otisgood@aol.com writes: << Must be nice to live where this kind of talent is appreciated and valued. >> Only when you defend it with the ferocity of a Tasmanian Devil! :-) FWIW, it's true that all my collectors are people who are "in the biz." They're the ones who make enough to do it. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:55:53 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Peter Crow's DR-1 Message-ID: <22.515d283.263b70f9@aol.com> Very nicely done. I especially like the "painted over" effect with the crosses. I bet your non-WWI buddies think you screwed up! Really, quite beautiful. Otis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:00:48 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR Message-ID: <15.3217d42.263b7220@aol.com> In a message dated 4/28/00 5:56:52 PM Central Daylight Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: > FWIW, it's true that all my collectors are people who are "in the biz." > They're the ones who make enough to do it. We have people "in the biz" here in Nashville... the music biz. Unfortunately, I'm not in the biz so I don't really have contact with many of them. Of course, Ashley Judd lives just a few miles from me, and she's in the movie biz. Dream on, Otis! OG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:01:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR Message-ID: <20000428230128.14833.qmail@web701.mail.yahoo.com> --- Otisgood@aol.com wrote: > >> Must be nice to live where this kind > of talent is appreciated and valued. > > Otis Wheres that??? :-) P.Crow __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:04:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Peter Crow's DR-1 Message-ID: <20000428230420.23483.qmail@web702.mail.yahoo.com> --- Otisgood@aol.com wrote: > Very nicely done. I especially like the "painted > over" effect with the > crosses. I bet your non-WWI buddies think you > screwed up! Really, quite > beautiful. > > Otis Wish I could take credit for a fancy paint job, but the decals came that way...a little shading around them to help blend in, but that was it.. P.Crow __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:07:57 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR Message-ID: In a message dated 4/28/00 6:06:39 PM Central Daylight Time, eatcrow2@yahoo.com writes: > Wheres that??? :-) > > P.Crow > HOOOOOOOLLYWOOD!!!! Hooray for HOOOOOLLYWOOD!!!!!! That's where. OG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:09:18 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Peter Crow's DR-1 Message-ID: <6a.247abe7.263b741e@aol.com> In a message dated 4/28/00 6:07:41 PM Central Daylight Time, eatcrow2@yahoo.com writes: > Wish I could take credit for a fancy paint job, but > the decals came that way...a little shading around > them to help blend in, but that was it.. > P.Crow Well, nice shading then! OG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:10:43 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, Paul Schwartzkopf , Subject: Re: REMOVE Message-ID: <390A2882.7978A034@wireweb.net> I made the same mistake: The address for removl goes to: wwi-request@pease1.unh.edu, No subject and the message included is: unsubscribe wwi I made that mistake (listproc) once before. You would think I would learn. Lee M. Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: > Send an e-mail to: listproc@pease1.sr.unh.edu > > In the message part of the body write: signoff wwi > > Do not add your signature or anything else in the body. > > Paul > > >>> "David Garrison" 04/28/2000 2:38:07 PM >>> > Can anyone tell me how to get my email address REMOVED from this mail > list? > > PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > david@spectrosales.com > > ---------- > From: wwi[SMTP:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 8:51 PM > To: David; Multiple recipients of list > Subject: WWI digest 2295 > > WWI Digest 2295 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:19:32 -0500 From: Lee Mensinger To: lemen@wireweb.net, wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: REMOVE Message-ID: <390A2A93.3D1B99E1@wireweb.net> See I did it again and left out the sr. wwi-request@pease1.sr.unh.edu just so every one knws I can do it right. Have a dizzy question. Who, at the present time, has the 1/28th Fokker D-VII for sale. I was looking in Squadrons latest newsletter and didn't find any. I finally have all of the corrections gathered together including the January 99 FSM article. Please reply off list as well as any other destinations. Lee M. Lee Mensinger wrote: > I made the same mistake: The address for removl goes to: > > wwi-request@pease1.unh.edu, > > No subject and the message included is: > > unsubscribe wwi > > I made that mistake (listproc) once before. You would think I would learn. > Lee M. > > Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: > > > Send an e-mail to: listproc@pease1.sr.unh.edu > > > > In the message part of the body write: signoff wwi > > > > Do not add your signature or anything else in the body. > > > > Paul > > > > >>> "David Garrison" 04/28/2000 2:38:07 PM >>> > > Can anyone tell me how to get my email address REMOVED from this mail > > list? > > > > PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > david@spectrosales.com > > > > ---------- > > From: wwi[SMTP:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 8:51 PM > > To: David; Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: WWI digest 2295 > > > > WWI Digest 2295 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:07:26 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: REMOVE Message-ID: <6b.398398e.263b8fce@aol.com> Rosemont sells them but says they are temporarily out of stock. Call Barry next week and ask him when he will get some in. http://www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby/revell1.htm You also might try something like Hobbyweb.com. If you get real desperate, contact me. I have a few stashed away and I might trade one for something cool. Otis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:45:39 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Swallow. Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000428184539.00771774@pop.amug.org> len, thanks i have that and it fits the bill. thanks again. lee, try greatmodels.com they had them on sale for 19.00usd. eric At 01:39 PM 4/28/00 -0400, you wrote: >Eric, >Windsock Volume 14 No.4 has an article, plans and loads of photos. I'm sure >someone in your neck of the woods has a copy they could loan you. > >Regards Len. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:10:00 -0400 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: What is available? Message-ID: <3903ACF8.CD2CC41F@ptdprolog.net> JVT7532@aol.com wrote: > What I want to ask about is paint colors, I have looked through the > FAQ lists on a few sites and have not found any references for WWI colors on > the different aircraft such as Linen, PC10 let alone that French five color > scheme, and then some of the German colors like the streaky Green, well I do > need some help. Is such a list available or will I have to question the list > each time I start a new ship? Matt gave you his site for French colors. For PC-10, I like Poly-Scale "PC-10" They also, in their previous incarnation, Poly-S, had a nice color called "Dark Earth" that I liked. Both of these are water based acrylics and are very easy to use. They also make a Fokker Green and Mauve that I like. For the streaky Fokker look, I like to use a wash from ModelMasters of Sable Brown Metallic. I let it set a few days in the bottle, and then use what floats to the top for the wash over CDL (clear doped linen) or Blue. For CDL I love Modern Desert Sand. In any event, feel free to ask the list before each new project just so everyone can chime in with their favorites. > Also how are the SMER kits? I like them. Can't beat the price. Accuracy may not be there, but they make up into nice models without too much work. I especially like the Nieuport. Before the Eduard kits came out, they were much more used, I think. > hth Mike Muthyour neighbor to the North in the Poconos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:10:29 -0700 From: Russell W Niles To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: WW1 Engines Message-ID: <20000428.191031.-492963.0.r_niles1@juno.com> Hi Kids I am now well into my next project, a Flashback Berg D1. I have added stringers in the cockpit from Evergreen strip, and thats about all. For the most part I followed what was already ther. It is now painted, and drybrushed, and I am almost ready to paint the engine. Which coincidentally brings me to the subject. What do some/all of you do for painting engines? Specifically the Mercedes style of German engines. On rotarys, I paint steel, then wash with dark grey or black, then dry brush with dark brown. For in-lines, what do you all do? Thanks Russ Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missiles....switching to guns. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 22:40:33 EDT From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1914,U.S. & the Zimmerman Note Message-ID: <43.40ef88b.263ba5a1@aol.com> That's how the Mexicans learned to make beer. Also, noticed how some of their music is close to oompa bands. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:43:24 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 Engines Message-ID: <390A4C4B.7E35CF49@bellsouth.net> Russell W Niles wrote: > Hi Kids HI DAD!!! > For in-lines, > what do you all do? Steel/aluminum/silver for the crank case and black for the jugs. If it's got springs, paint those a nice medium steel color(not silver). Intake mani is aluminum. The conduit for the plug wires is red. Check out; http://home.xnet.com/~tmblweed/mercedes.html to see pics of the real McCoy. I'm not sure why the bottom portion of the cylinders are white. You could paint them like that, or not, since you can't see that part of the cylinders anyway. Hth.. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:50:02 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1914,U.S. & the Zimmerman Note Message-ID: <390A4DD9.2C34813C@bellsouth.net> DavidL1217@aol.com wrote: > That's how the Mexicans learned to make beer. Also, noticed how some of > their music is close to oompa bands. Mexican Latino music has a very heavy German influence. Polkas in particular were especially influential. Comes from a large population of German settlers in south Texas. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:38:14 -0400 From: skarver@banet.net To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Roland CII "Accessories"? Message-ID: <390A5925.52BBC600@banet.net> Aside from the MGs, would the C.II have carried bombs? Recon camera? TIA, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:50:54 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: a secret mission.... Message-ID: <9d.4b7f5d2.263bb61e@aol.com> Today I saved the Magna Carta from a fate worse than death as Elke Sommer looked on and Michael York bravely fought all the Kaiser's henchmen and then............... well, ok, here's the real story... It all started with a phone call from Ray, the Cantankerous Modelbuilding Ex-TruckDriver. He says "Robert?" I say "Yep" He say's "Robert?" I say "Yes, Ray" He says "I wanna talk to Robert" I say "It IS Robert , Dammit" He says "oh", then goes on to say "Be at the Goodyear LTA terminal tomorrow before 9:30- oh and grab the kid". I'm stunned and don't say much. Anyway, Tony the Kid and myself get on down there and we end up taking a 3hr 36 minute Blimp ride- not the usual 45 minute "tourist" cruise. Out for an hour and a half to buzz around Chino, over to Fontana, back down to Long Beach and then back in. AMAZING. Smooth- no wallow- more like a rocking chair. I got about twenty minutes behind the pedals and elevator wheel. Talk about leading- very disconcerting- full rudder and the beast thinks about it for a minute, then decides it might turn just a little bit- same with elevators. And a word of advice- NEVER get in a kicking fight with a blimp pilot- it takes MUSCLES to move those huge control surfaces- no powert assist- just cables and leg power. I'm still kind of buzzing right now! Not very on-topic in a direct way, but a VERY on-topic experience. The "feel" of the ride really did cast the mind back to 1915/16/17/18- the slow forward progress, the drone, the wind whistling through nooks and crannies (not to mention the openable windows)....a marvelous day.(and it may be time to drag the half-completed scratch Zeppelin out of the closet.....) And the BTW, ol' Ray has known the pilot 30 years, and has been campaigning for a ride like this for the Kid and me for quite awhile- that's how we made it- it pays to have friends in high places I guess! RK P.S. I've fallen behind on my e-mail again, and I know I owe some of you replies off-list- and I'll get around to it! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:05:36 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Roland CII "Accessories"? Message-ID: <001801bfb190$2ced0100$bdbf113f@f4w2s5> According to the old Profile Publication, they had a wireless transmitter, and some did carry a camera behind the observer. Doesn't say anything about bombs, however. I just zipped up the 2 halves of the Eduard kit today, what a nice build this is. Do you know anything about the piping that is carried behind the ear radiators? i can't locate it in any photos that I have, should they be left off? TIA, Gabe. -----Original Message----- From: skarver@banet.net To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 8:42 PM Subject: Roland CII "Accessories"? >Aside from the MGs, would >the C.II have carried >bombs? Recon camera? >TIA, >Stef > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:27:32 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: a secret mission.... Message-ID: <390A64B3.34C371C@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > well, ok, here's the real story... That's pretty cool. But I still would like to have heard more about Elke Sommer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:36:55 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roland CII "Accessories"? Message-ID: <390A66E6.C8320B44@bellsouth.net> skarver@banet.net wrote: > Aside from the MGs, would > the C.II have carried > bombs? Recon camera? Bombs, camera, wireless set, antenna reel, Get the Datafile. Btw, thanks for the recomendation guys. E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:45:17 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: What is available? Message-ID: <001b01bfb195$f5dfedc0$7485aec7@dora9sprynet.com> -----Original Message----- From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 9:10 PM Subject: Re: What is available? > > >JVT7532@aol.com wrote: > >> What I want to ask about is paint colors, I have looked through the >> FAQ lists on a few sites and have not found any references for WWI colors on >> the different aircraft such as Linen, PC10 let alone that French five color >> scheme, and then some of the German colors like the streaky Green, well I do >> need some help. Is such a list available or will I have to question the list >> each time I start a new ship? > > Matt gave you his site for French colors. For PC-10, I like Poly-Scale >"PC-10" They also, in their previous incarnation, Poly-S, had a nice color called >"Dark Earth" that I liked. Both of these are water based acrylics and are very >easy to use. They also make a Fokker Green and Mauve that I like. For the streaky >Fokker look, I like to use a wash from ModelMasters of Sable Brown Metallic. I >let it set a few days in the bottle, and then use what floats to the top for the >wash over CDL (clear doped linen) or Blue. For CDL I love Modern Desert Sand. In >any event, feel free to ask the list before each new project just so everyone can >chime in with their favorites. > Hi Guys, My favorite CDL color is Floquil's Antique White, which is one of the Railroad colors. For the Fokker Triplanes that I did - they're in the Gallery - I streaked them with ModelMaster RLM 70 Acrylic mixed with Future. As for PC-10, I mixed a bottle of ModelMaster enamel olive drab with a bottle of the next darkest olive green, and I really like the result. As for the French colors, ModelMaster has some of them. DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:46:54 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: a secret mission.... Message-ID: <001c01bfb195$f7066c60$7485aec7@dora9sprynet.com> -----Original Message----- From: KarrArt@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, April 28, 2000 10:56 PM Subject: a secret mission.... >Today I saved the Magna Carta from a fate worse than death as Elke Sommer >looked on and Michael York bravely fought all the Kaiser's henchmen and >then............... > > >well, ok, here's the real story... >It all started with a phone call from Ray, the Cantankerous Modelbuilding >Ex-TruckDriver. >He says "Robert?" >I say "Yep" >He say's "Robert?" >I say "Yes, Ray" >He says "I wanna talk to Robert" >I say "It IS Robert , Dammit" >He says "oh", then goes on to say "Be at the Goodyear LTA terminal tomorrow >before 9:30- oh and grab the kid". >I'm stunned and don't say much. >Anyway, Tony the Kid and myself get on down there and we end up taking a 3hr >36 minute Blimp ride- not the usual 45 minute "tourist" cruise. Out for an >hour and a half to buzz around Chino, over to Fontana, back down to Long >Beach and then back in. >AMAZING. Smooth- no wallow- more like a rocking chair. I got about twenty >minutes behind the pedals and elevator wheel. Talk about leading- very >disconcerting- full rudder and the beast thinks about it for a minute, then >decides it might turn just a little bit- same with elevators. And a word of >advice- NEVER get in a kicking fight with a blimp pilot- it takes MUSCLES to >move those huge control surfaces- no powert assist- just cables and leg power. >I'm still kind of buzzing right now! COOL! DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:58:30 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 Engines Message-ID: <200004290500.AAA34775@ind.cioe.com> On Mercedes motor colors; >Steel/aluminum/silver for the crank case and black for the jugs. If it's got springs, paint those a nice medium steel color(not silver). Spot on. >Intake mani is aluminum. Actually the intake manifold is made from steel. I painted the one photographed with silver paint, more for protection, but it should most likely be natural steel color. >The conduit for the plug wires is red. Correct. The ones in the photos I made from white pvc, which I painted red with black over spray. I now have the original "Bakelite" ones on it. Actually the originals are like wrapped paper mache formed into the tube, and quite brittle and fragile. The "new" color of them is a reasonably bright "fire engine" red. Some other details missing in the photos are all of the water, air, fuel, and oil lines which I didn't have at that time. In one of the Fokker books you can see on I believe a OAW built D.VII, they color coded the different lines. I don't remember the system, but I know white was maybe air, red - fuel, blue - water, the rest slip my mind. Maybe someone else knows the "German engineering standard" for color coding of lines. Someone mentioned the Mercedes book that came out about a year ago. It gives good color details, although it contains a few minor mistakes it is an excellent reference. >I'm not sure why the bottom portion of the cylinders are white. You could paint them like that, or not, since you can't see that part of the cylinders anyway. I can't remember why I painted them white, but I seem to recall that I found white paint remnants, and went with that. I also seem to recall some motors had a red stripe around the cylinders, possibly to denote high compression rebuilt over hauled motors. I know Peter Grosz was trying to figure it out as well. Best, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:00:18 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roland CII "Accessories"? Message-ID: <390A6C61.23816BB6@bellsouth.net> Limon3 wrote: > Do you know anything about the piping that is carried > behind the ear radiators? i can't locate it in any photos that I have, > should they be left off? > TIA, Gabe The pipes come into the fuselage just in front of the the rudder cables, which are sort of like the Albatross config. Like this; _______________ |O ^ O| | X | | | | | I hope my art translates over the list. The X is the hub of the rudder bar. The ^ is a horn type of thingy on the rudder bar that the cables connect to, then run through pulleys attached to the side walls, represented here by O. So the rad pipes enter from the sides a few inches? in front of the pulleys and curve upward(verticle, perpendicular to the long. axis) to form a sort of stylish, wavy, inverted Y, which is offset to starboard. The junction of the inv.Y lines up with the starboard stirrup on the rudder bar, just to give you and idea of how much offset. Not sure where the pipes go from there. If this isn't clear, get the Datafile. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:11:23 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: WW1 Engines Message-ID: <390A6EFB.4CB15D@bellsouth.net> Gee Dave, I had no idea that was your engine. I was so happy when I came upon that in Guntersville, you just don't know. Those pics have become my standard refs for painting Mercs. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 07:05:39 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: What is available? Message-ID: <000901bfb1a1$48bd9be0$315c08c3@mesh> Brent, The two Blue Riders that Matt can't remember are the Vickers FB5 and FB9. (BTW matt can't remember them because they are British not French !) :-) Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 6:58 PM Subject: Re: What is available? > > > > Howdy Gang! > > >As far as pushers go, I can only speak for 1/72nd. You have/had > >available: Otto C.I Doppeldecker by Blue Rider; a couple of British > >jobs by Blue Rider (why can't I remember what those are?); FE2b in vac > >by a couple of companies; Voisin 3 by Flashback; Caudron G.3 by > >Roseplane; Caudron G.4 by Blue Rider; Farman F.40 by Roseplane; Farman > >F.11 by Blue Rider and HR (how I wish I could find a Blue Rider > >example...); Breguet V horribly done by Veterans 72; I'm sure I'm > >leaving a bunch out. > > Hey Matt! Those aren't all pushers! The two Caudrons are tractors :) One of > the British jobs by Blue Rider is another Farmen which can also be built as > an Italian built machine. > > I wouldn't recommend the Roseplance Caudron G.3 if you haven't tackled a > vac before. It wasn't one of their best efforts. I built mine, but I am not > real happy with it. I have the Blue Rider Farman cut out. It looks like > everything will assemble nicely with that kit. The p/e booms are a nice > touch. > > Later! > > Brent ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 09:02:38 EDT From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Roland CII "Accessories"? Message-ID: <62.2e0bff9.263c376e@aol.com> In a message dated 4/28/00 10:47:57 PM Central Daylight Time, skarver@banet.net writes: > Aside from the MGs, would > the C.II have carried > bombs? Recon camera? > TIA, > Stef I didn't know the MGs carried bombs. Maybe that's why Booker T is not with them anymore. OG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 08:54:46 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR Message-ID: <390AE9A5.8C8CE58F@bellsouth.net> Looks good Peter. What's the status on the guillotine? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 07:07:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker DR-1..... MVR Message-ID: <20000429140733.25650.qmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ernest Thomas wrote: > Looks good Peter. What's the status on the > guillotine? > E. Thanks Ernest.... In re. to the Guillotine.. weathering/shading and finish painting the "lottery winner" who gets to be the test pilot... Also up-loaded pics of the "Blue Max" Pfalz D-XII that I did about a year ago... and the "Toko" Snipe. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=374489&a=5529423 P.Crow > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:41:23 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: WW1 posts Subject: APMA site re-launch Message-ID: <390AD873.5C3A8E52@tac.com.au> Hi gang, Well, stage one of the APMA site upgrade is done & online. Check it out at: http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm Check out the "Australian Modeller" on the front page, courtesy of a list member ;->. Stage two, will see more OT content in the form of a Flanders walkaround, WW1 museum aircraft & hopefully some armours as well. Regards, Shane APMA VP http://www.tac.com.au/~sljenkins/apma.htm ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2298 **********************