WWI Digest 2266

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Pensacola Big Time!
	by smperry@mindspring.com
  2) Goodbye; was, Champlin Fighter Museum
	by Shane & Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
  3) Re: 1/72 Dr.1
	by Craig Gavin <cgavin@ipa.net>
  4) Re: Back OT Please
	by Allan Wright <aew>
  5) going into digest mode for a few days
	by "Ray Boorman" <Ray_Boorman@telus.net>
  6) Tired but triumphant
	by Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
  7) Aerodrome Modeler CD
	by smperry@mindspring.com
  8) Re: Tired but triumphant
	by smperry@mindspring.com
  9) Re: 1/72 Dr.1
	by Otisgood@aol.com
 10) Jane's WWI book
	by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" <KZELNIC@entergy.com>
 11) Re: Revell 1/28 Dr.1
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
 12) Re: Revell 1/28 Dr.1
	by "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
 13) SoonerCon 2000
	by "Harris, Mack" <MackH@Health.State.OK.US>
 14) FW: SoonerCon 2000
	by "Harris, Mack" <MackH@Health.State.OK.US>
 15) Announcing the RK-Tom Prize for...
	by Albatrosdv@aol.com
 16) Re: Jane's WWI book
	by "Alberto Casirati" <ammi-alme@unicalce.it>
 17) Re: Jane's WWI book
	by Mark Miller <albatros1212@altavista.com>
 18) Re: Announcing the RK-Tom Prize for...
	by "Peter Leonard" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
 19) Re: Announcing the RK-Tom Prize for...
	by Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com
 20) Re: SoonerCon 2000
	by Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com
 21) RE: SoonerCon 2000
	by "Harris, Mack" <MackH@Health.State.OK.US>
 22) Re: 1/72 Dr.1
	by Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com
 23) Re: Goodbye; was, Champlin Fighter Museum
	by geoff-smith@cwcom.net
 24) Re: Announcing the RK-Tom Prize for...
	by Al Superczynski <modeleral@up-link.net>

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:10:38 -0400
From: smperry@mindspring.com
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Pensacola Big Time!
Message-ID: <002b01bfa86e$53f690c0$4b0d56d1@default>

Mike:
In order to make the big shindig at Wright Patterson in 2003 and not wait 3
years, the League decided to hold a seminar in San Diego in a year and a
half and then another at Dayton for the 2003 festivities.

hth
sp

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Dicianna" <mikedc@dnc.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Pensacola Big Time!


> I realize it is a little early to start dreaming but, is there any
> information on where next year's OTF actually is....Somewhere
> here on the "left" coast?    I can start making plans today to be at this
> one!   Can't wait!
>
> Is there a date and time and location listed somewhere this early in the
> game?
>
> nb: Eduard DV in dinky of MvR
> nu: Jasta 11 D.111a in Mamoth scale
>
> MikeDC
> "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer"
>
> <big snip>
> > I can't imagine making it to the next OTF(in San Somethingorother CA, I
> > believe), but I'm looking forward to meeting more listee's in Dallas
this
> > summer.
>
>


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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:16:05 +1000
From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins <sljenkins@tac.com.au>
To: WW1 posts <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Goodbye; was, Champlin Fighter Museum
Message-ID: <38FB0E95.B49C282@tac.com.au>


 James Gray <Suvoroff@aol.com> wrote:

> Mr. Cleaver said;
> "I must have been misinformed.  I was always under the impression Elephants 
> wre (sic) big-brained animals with thick skins."
> I have been a member of this list for over two years now, and it is sad to 
> unsubscribe.  However, I cannot remain on a list where I am insulted, 
> gratuitously and deliberately insulted, by loud-mouthed, bigoted S.O.B.'s 
> like Tom Cleaver.  Congratulations, Tom; another victory for small-minded 
> people everywhere.  And to everybody else; goodbye, it was nice knowing you.  
> Happy modelling.
> 
> Yours,
> James D. Gray

 Hi all,

 While I'm hesitant to comment on US political issues, on a list where I
hardly contribute anything On Topic, I found the above post from Tom
Cleaver very insulting with the resultant leaving of James Gray very
distressing.

 I can get enough of Mr Cleaver's rather insipid bashing of GOP (yes, we
Aussies do know what you mean) voters and values on RMS. And while I
could make some dispraging remark about the current US President, I
would prefer not to have put up with mine and others political comments
polluting what is one of the best modelling lists around.

 James, I will miss your comments on the list & I wish you well in your
modelling endeavours. I sincerely hope you reconsider your position on
this matter.

 I'll leave you with this pithy saying "noli illegitimi carborundum"

 Regards,

 Shane Jenkins

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:24:02 -0500
From: Craig Gavin <cgavin@ipa.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: 1/72 Dr.1
Message-ID: <B5207AA1.3CF%cgavin@ipa.net>

I'd echo Matt's comment.  The Hawkeye kit really is beautiful - great fit -
very accurate - good instruction (especially about painting).  It's easily
obtained from Roll Models or Rosemont.  Just don't let him paint it red -
might as well get an old Revell kit then. - Craig Ý

> From: "Matthew Bittner" <tbittners@sprintmail.com>
> Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:34:10 -0400 (EDT)
> To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Subject: Re: 1/72 Dr.1
> 
> On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:29:10 -0400 (EDT), DAVID BURKE wrote:
> 
>> I am asking this on behalf of a friend (no it is NOT me).  I am slowly
>> infecting him with the idea of building OT subjects, and he said that he was
>> interested in a Dr.1 in dinky-scale.  He said that Eduard was planning one
>> and would wait if that was so.  A: is it? and B: if not, then what would you
>> recommend?  I figure that he has done well in WW2 1/72, having won at the
>> Nationals - I figured he'd be a good addition, even though he has no
>> computer as of yet.
> 
> Yes, Eduard has one due immentley.  However, if your "friend" has to
> build one now, the Hawkeye Dr.I is awesome in its own right.
> 
>> Worse comes to worse, I'll tell him to whack away at the Albatros.  Does
>> the 1/72 Albatros have PE?
> 
> Yes and no.  You can buy either - a version with, or a version without
> - but I would definitely recommend the version with.  I have both, and
> now wish I would have waited for the version with.  Superb!
> 
> 
> Matt Bittner
> http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook
> http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/FrenchWW1
> 


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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:44:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Back OT Please
Message-ID: <200004171344.JAA14492@pease1.sr.unh.edu>

> Gee's fellas how's a guy supposed to learn all about these great WW I 
> aircraft with you all Jackjawin about legal Mumbo Jumbo & copyrights. Lets 
> get back to the good stuff please,  hey I'm just someone who trying to learn 
> something in an area where I know almost nothing. Thanks to all of you for 
> all your help.

Here here - it's a good thing it was the weekend or I would have
squelched this thread a long time ago.

-Allan

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:12:05 -0700
From: "Ray Boorman" <Ray_Boorman@telus.net>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: going into digest mode for a few days
Message-ID: <006201bfa876$e8dbf600$9b1335d1@bconnected.net>

Hi'yall
    I'm going off to do some more geeky rape and pillage,  out of town for
the week ;) (Just a joke really). So anyone emailing me, I'm wont be able to
reply till the weekend.

Regards Ray Boorman (Two more weeks of this and I can get back to building
models I hope)


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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:56:13 -0400
From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson <mvj@thetelegram.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Tired but triumphant
Message-ID: <l03130307b520a9251d8b@[192.168.233.66]>

Greetings all,
Well while some listers enjoyed the OTF shindig and others dabbled in some
politik-speak (boo, hiss)
St. John's Newfoundland was basking in the glow of its third annual Hobby
Show. being stuck out here on the Atlantic Rim we modelers have found that
if we want something we have to do it ourselves so when the only other
public model show bit the dust a few years back, myself and three friends
set about organizing our own.
I didn't realise how difficult it was to get anyone to judge these things.
Hence it was gratifying to see more than 120 entries on the contest table -
all excellent in terms of high-calibre modelling.
Alas there was only one OT entry - my only-just-dried Ni-17.

As one of the organizers of the show (in other words one of the walking
dead due to lack of sleep)
I was encouraged to hear some nice comments about my kit. . .the first WWI
bus I've managaed to complete in about 10 years.
Having wrestled with *%^$^%!! steel guitar wire for the rigging, it was
nice to hear some other modelers, none of them much interested in OT
before, comment that 'hmm, maybe I should give it a try."
Helping the cause was a display of an old glencoe Albatross DIII (heavily
modified and sporting the aeroclub engine and guns) and a stunning 1/32
Nieport 17 Billy Bishop aircraft masterfully made by the local IPMS pres,
on of those enviable people who make models for a living at a university
model fab shop.

Anyhoo, just wanted to update y'all on the goings on up here.
Now that the Ni 17 is finished, I'm going to tackle the ugly Smer DVa. .
.ooh, those raised panel lines (shudder).

Tired but happy
Mark V-J

P.S.

I got some closeups photos of the NI17 taken. . .anyone know how I can
share them with the webworld . . .no model related websites to speak of in
my neck of the woods.
M



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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:27:08 -0400
From: smperry@mindspring.com
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Aerodrome Modeler CD
Message-ID: <006901bfa879$03a94f80$4b0d56d1@default>

The CDs for the Aerodrome Modeler were delivered to Bob at the OTF seminar.
(By none other than Glen Merrill od A/G) Bob said he would be mailing them
on his return later this month.

The image quality is first rate and the CD is attracively packaged. Those of
you who are expecting one will not be disapointed :-)

Excellent work and a big thanks to all involved in the project!

sp
E-mail  smperry@mindspring.com
Web Site  http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/


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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:34:11 -0400
From: smperry@mindspring.com
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Tired but triumphant
Message-ID: <007901bfa87a$00027220$4b0d56d1@default>

Congratulations on a successful show!

I have a bit of web space not filled. Give me a holler off list and we can
see if we can get your pics up so the List can see them
sp



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Vaughan-Jackson" <mvj@thetelegram.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 10:29 AM
Subject: Tired but triumphant


> Greetings all,
> Well while some listers enjoyed the OTF shindig and others dabbled in some
> politik-speak (boo, hiss)
> St. John's Newfoundland was basking in the glow of its third annual Hobby
> Show. being stuck out here on the Atlantic Rim we modelers have found that
> if we want something we have to do it ourselves so when the only other
> public model show bit the dust a few years back, myself and three friends
> set about organizing our own.
> I didn't realise how difficult it was to get anyone to judge these things.
> Hence it was gratifying to see more than 120 entries on the contest
table -
> all excellent in terms of high-calibre modelling.
> Alas there was only one OT entry - my only-just-dried Ni-17.
>
> As one of the organizers of the show (in other words one of the walking
> dead due to lack of sleep)
> I was encouraged to hear some nice comments about my kit. . .the first WWI
> bus I've managaed to complete in about 10 years.
> Having wrestled with *%^$^%!! steel guitar wire for the rigging, it was
> nice to hear some other modelers, none of them much interested in OT
> before, comment that 'hmm, maybe I should give it a try."
> Helping the cause was a display of an old glencoe Albatross DIII (heavily
> modified and sporting the aeroclub engine and guns) and a stunning 1/32
> Nieport 17 Billy Bishop aircraft masterfully made by the local IPMS pres,
> on of those enviable people who make models for a living at a university
> model fab shop.
>
> Anyhoo, just wanted to update y'all on the goings on up here.
> Now that the Ni 17 is finished, I'm going to tackle the ugly Smer DVa. .
> .ooh, those raised panel lines (shudder).
>
> Tired but happy
> Mark V-J
>
> P.S.
>
> I got some closeups photos of the NI17 taken. . .anyone know how I can
> share them with the webworld . . .no model related websites to speak of in
> my neck of the woods.
> M
>
>


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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:38:15 EDT
From: Otisgood@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: 1/72 Dr.1
Message-ID: <55.4a6f7df.262c7bd7@aol.com>

In a message dated Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:26:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com> writes:

> Hey Guys,
> 
>     I am asking this on behalf of a friend (no it is NOT me).  I am slowly
> infecting him with the idea of building OT subjects, and he said that he was
> interested in a Dr.1 in dinky-scale.  He said that Eduard was planning one
> and would wait if that was so.  A: is it? and B: if not, then what would you
> recommend?  I figure that he has done well in WW2 1/72, having won at the
> Nationals - I figured he'd be a good addition, even though he has no
> computer as of yet.
> 
>     Worse comes to worse, I'll tell him to whack away at the Albatros.  Does
> the 1/72 Albatros have PE?
> 
>                                                                         DB

There is a review in the current SAMI about Hawkeye Designs' Dr1 in 1/72 that is very complimentary. Beware, the kit is resin and there are no decals so he would have to use aftermarket (no problem) but apparently the instrucitons are very user friendly and it gives a lot of info on finishes.

 Otis

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:40:41 -0500
From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" <KZELNIC@entergy.com>
To: "'WWI Modeling Digest'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Jane's WWI book
Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A249078012AB8EC@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com>

Hello All,

Saw the following listing on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=309507271

It's a reprint of a 1919 Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WWI.  How useful would
this be as a reference book?  Does anyone out there have a copy, or has
anyone seen one?

TIA,

Ken Zelnick
Amateur magician, so you can trust me

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:28:29 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Revell 1/28 Dr.1
Message-ID: <006001bfa879$dc4546a0$6889aec7@dora9sprynet.com>

THey're available, Revell of Germany has 'em.  Your kid obviously was raised
in a cultured household...

                                                                DB
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Ronayne <kitschdesign26@dingoblue.net.au>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Date: Monday, April 17, 2000 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: Revell 1/28 Dr.1


>Excellent - that was my next question. I noticed the D-VII advertised on
the
>back of the Dr.1 box, but they didn't have one in stock for me to ogle.
>
>Thanks Ernest!
>
>Cheers
>
>Andrew.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ernest Thomas" <ethomas6@bellsouth.net>
>To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
>Sent: Monday, 17 April 2000 4:31
>Subject: Re: Revell 1/28 Dr.1
>
>
>>
>>
>> Ray Boorman wrote:
>>
>> > I would buy both one for
>> > yourself to be built later, and one for your sons bedroom.
>>
>> I agree. And you could do the same with the 1/28 D-VII.
>> E.
>>
>


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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:27:08 -0500
From: "DAVID BURKE" <dora9@sprynet.com>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Revell 1/28 Dr.1
Message-ID: <005f01bfa879$db5a4a60$6889aec7@dora9sprynet.com>

YES.


DB
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Ronayne <kitschdesign26@dingoblue.net.au>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Date: Monday, April 17, 2000 12:28 AM
Subject: Revell 1/28 Dr.1


>Dumb question:
>
>My 4yo son wants an old "red" aeroplane to hang from his bedroom ceiling. A
>quick visit to the local K-mart (my nearest "real" hobby shop is over an
>hours drive away) revealed a couple of Revell 1/28 Dr.1 kits. They were
>selling for AUD$29.00 each. Is the kit worth the price?
>
>Andrew
>


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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:43:31 -0500
From: "Harris, Mack" <MackH@Health.State.OK.US>
To: "'World War I'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: SoonerCon 2000
Message-ID: <E163A98BC3D0D2119CAA0000832180C203EBD4CE@exchange6.health.state.ok.us>

Just a heads up to everyone, especially those in the central US about a good
local contest.  I'm the club treasurer and am getting a mailing ready to
everyone who attended last year and low and behold there was Brent  's name
on the list.  Brent if you come back this year I promise no tornados. (man,
I wish I could make good on that promise).  Last year's contest occurred
just days after probably the worst tornado in Oklahoma history.
But this year will be different, so come one, come all.
Thanks for allowing the shameless promotion.
Mack Harris
(ps. Hope to have my Airfix Roland CII done with thanks to Dan Hartz who
actually gave me a datafile on the whale)

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:46:50 -0500
From: "Harris, Mack" <MackH@Health.State.OK.US>
To: "'World War I'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: FW: SoonerCon 2000
Message-ID: <E163A98BC3D0D2119CAA0000832180C203EBD4CF@exchange6.health.state.ok.us>

Sorry, meant to give the URL to our club's website for more info.  ( must
have been having a mature moment)

http://www.okinfoweb.com/ipmsmetro/index.htm
<http://www.okinfoweb.com/ipmsmetro/index.htm> 

Mack
-----Original Message-----
From:	Harris, Mack 
Sent:	Monday, April 17, 2000 9:44 AM
To:	'World War I'
Subject:	SoonerCon 2000

Just a heads up to everyone, especially those in the central US about a good
local contest.  I'm the club treasurer and am getting a mailing ready to
everyone who attended last year and low and behold there was Brent  's name
on the list.  Brent if you come back this year I promise no tornados. (man,
I wish I could make good on that promise).  Last year's contest occurred
just days after probably the worst tornado in Oklahoma history.
But this year will be different, so come one, come all.
Thanks for allowing the shameless promotion.
Mack Harris
(ps. Hope to have my Airfix Roland CII done with thanks to Dan Hartz who
actually gave me a datafile on the whale)

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:54:29 EDT
From: Albatrosdv@aol.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Announcing the RK-Tom Prize for...
Message-ID: <60.23cf6c0.262c7fa5@aol.com>

Speaking of events yesterday, I said - and RK replied - as follows:

In a message dated 4/16/00 11:42:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv 
writes:

<< 
 Maybe someone ought to come up with an emoticon for "tongue in cheek" so 
those who don't "get it" can. >>

 Now whoever comes up with a universally recognisable "tongue in cheek" ought 
to get a damn prize of some sort!


And so, we announce the following competition:  invent a univeral emoticon 
for "tongue in cheek," with the socially-redeemable goal of helping the 
overly-serious to "get a grip."  :-)

Dunno what the prize is yet,  but the two of us can be pretty creative in 
that department.

So....on your mark...

Thinking caps on - get set....

Go!

Tom C

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:58:44 +0200
From: "Alberto Casirati" <ammi-alme@unicalce.it>
To: <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Jane's WWI book
Message-ID: <051501bfa87d$6dc88760$320106c0@acasirat>

Yes, I have a copy. It is a big hard-cover book and although single models
are rarely well covered in detail, there is a useful and interesting engine
section at the end. Pictures printing is not very good and I rarely made use
of it for modelling purposes.

All the best,

Alberto Casirati.

----- Original Message -----
From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" <KZELNIC@entergy.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 4:45 PM
Subject: Jane's WWI book


> Hello All,
>
> Saw the following listing on Ebay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=309507271
>
> It's a reprint of a 1919 Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WWI.  How useful
would
> this be as a reference book?  Does anyone out there have a copy, or has
> anyone seen one?
>
> TIA,
>
> Ken Zelnick
> Amateur magician, so you can trust me


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Date: 17 Apr 2000 09:31:31 -0700
From: Mark Miller <albatros1212@altavista.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Jane's WWI book
Message-ID: <20000417163131.9579.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net>

Hi
I got one as a present several years ago - 
I must agree with Alberto - there's a lot of detail here but nothing is covered completely and considering the list price is 80$ (well thats what is listed on the inside jacket) you might be better off investing elswhere. I have gotten some use out of it however and I always enjoy looking through it - some of this stuff is pretty obscure

Mark

On Mon, 17 April 2000, "Alberto Casirati" wrote:

> 
> Yes, I have a copy. It is a big hard-cover book and although single models
> are rarely well covered in detail, there is a useful and interesting engine
> section at the end. Pictures printing is not very good and I rarely made use
> of it for modelling purposes.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Alberto Casirati.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" <KZELNIC@entergy.com>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 4:45 PM
> Subject: Jane's WWI book
> 
> 
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Saw the following listing on Ebay:
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=309507271
> >
> > It's a reprint of a 1919 Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WWI.  How useful
> would
> > this be as a reference book?  Does anyone out there have a copy, or has
> > anyone seen one?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Ken Zelnick
> > Amateur magician, so you can trust me


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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:33:31 GMT
From: "Peter Leonard" <peter_leonard@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Announcing the RK-Tom Prize for...
Message-ID: <20000417163331.19356.qmail@hotmail.com>

Dunno about that Tom, but how's this for Cary Grant? (who btw was in an OT 
flick)

            :-3 Judy Judy Judy!

hth

Peter L

----Original Message Follows----
From: Albatrosdv@aol.com
Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: Announcing the RK-Tom Prize for...
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:00:08 -0400 (EDT)

Speaking of events yesterday, I said - and RK replied - as follows:

In a message dated 4/16/00 11:42:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Albatrosdv
writes:

<<
  Maybe someone ought to come up with an emoticon for "tongue in cheek" so
those who don't "get it" can. >>

  Now whoever comes up with a universally recognisable "tongue in cheek" 
ought
to get a damn prize of some sort!


And so, we announce the following competition:  invent a univeral emoticon
for "tongue in cheek," with the socially-redeemable goal of helping the
overly-serious to "get a grip."  :-)

Dunno what the prize is yet,  but the two of us can be pretty creative in
that department.

So....on your mark...

Thinking caps on - get set....

Go!

Tom C

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:12:09 -0500
From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Announcing the RK-Tom Prize for...
Message-ID: <OF8AB9D8BC.9CCABC24-ON862568C4.00584B73@stsv.seagate.com>





Greetings,

>>And so, we announce the following competition:  invent a univeral
emoticon
for "tongue in cheek," with the socially-redeemable goal of helping the
overly-serious to "get a grip."  :-)

Dunno what the prize is yet,  but the two of us can be pretty creative in
that department.<<

It seems to me that we already have enough of those :) :-) :-p :-0 etc. It
is only a matter of them being used. Then we can all use ascii codes for
fun characters or the zapf dingbat font for more funny faces.

Later

Brent





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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:00:21 -0500
From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: SoonerCon 2000
Message-ID: <OFCB7EC44B.68F0F450-ON862568C4.005BE630@stsv.seagate.com>





Howdy!

>>Brent if you come back this year I promise no tornados. (man,
I wish I could make good on that promise).  Last year's contest occurred
just days after probably the worst tornado in Oklahoma history.
But this year will be different, so come one, come all.>>

No promises as of yet but I will try to attend. I don't mind the tornado so
much, just make sure Clinton doesn't come around again for a photo op.
Whoops! Inadvertent ot political post. Nobody unsubscribe! My aplogies.

Seriously, it was a nice show. If I can attend again I will. Perhaps I can
talk my wife (domestic assistant) into a day trip.

I did have an interesting experience on the way north from Dallas that
morning. I'm stuck in a traffic jam due to all the rubber neckers looking
at the carnage wrought by the tornado (which was extremely impressive). My
car has about a dozen kits to donate to a local modeler who lost his house.
These were gathered from Dallas/Fort Worth modelers and Phil's Hobby Shop.
All around me are cars and trucks with Texas plates stuffed with extra
clothes and food for the tornado victims. But right in front of me is a
truck with Oklahoma tags and a bumper sticker which reads "BEAT THE RUSH,
START HATING TEXAS NOW!!!". I hope that guy removed his tag when he got
home for I was quite proud of my fellow Texans.

nb: Still scratching the interior for the Pegasus DH-2. I added the fuel
lines and electrical wires last night. Tonight I am adding the bracing
wires. Watch out Matt!



Later!



Brent



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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:15:16 -0500
From: "Harris, Mack" <MackH@Health.State.OK.US>
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" <wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu>
Subject: RE: SoonerCon 2000
Message-ID: <E163A98BC3D0D2119CAA0000832180C203EBD4D0@exchange6.health.state.ok.us>

Thank you very much on behalf of the modeler who's house was blown away.  A
part of his model room was spared, but that was about it.  This was a guy
with literally 100's of model kits and 100's of built models all over his
house that were gone in a moment.  But due to a lot of generous Texans, (see
some of us like you) and modelers from all over the country he was able to
build a new house and put his life back together.  I think we raised about
$1500 for him that day plus a lot of nice kits to replace his.  Modelers are
just the nicest people (especially wwi people)
Mack

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com
[mailto:Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com]
		Sent:	Monday, April 17, 2000 12:16 PM
		To:	Multiple recipients of list
		Subject:	Re: SoonerCon 2000





		Howdy!

		>>Brent if you come back this year I promise no tornados.
(man,
		I wish I could make good on that promise).  Last year's
contest occurred
		just days after probably the worst tornado in Oklahoma
history.
		But this year will be different, so come one, come all.>>

		No promises as of yet but I will try to attend. I don't mind
the tornado so
		much, just make sure Clinton doesn't come around again for a
photo op.
		Whoops! Inadvertent ot political post. Nobody unsubscribe!
My aplogies.

		Seriously, it was a nice show. If I can attend again I will.
Perhaps I can
		talk my wife (domestic assistant) into a day trip.

		I did have an interesting experience on the way north from
Dallas that
		morning. I'm stuck in a traffic jam due to all the rubber
neckers looking
		at the carnage wrought by the tornado (which was extremely
impressive). My
		car has about a dozen kits to donate to a local modeler who
lost his house.
		These were gathered from Dallas/Fort Worth modelers and
Phil's Hobby Shop.
		All around me are cars and trucks with Texas plates stuffed
with extra
		clothes and food for the tornado victims. But right in front
of me is a
		truck with Oklahoma tags and a bumper sticker which reads
"BEAT THE RUSH,
		START HATING TEXAS NOW!!!". I hope that guy removed his tag
when he got
		home for I was quite proud of my fellow Texans.

		nb: Still scratching the interior for the Pegasus DH-2. I
added the fuel
		lines and electrical wires last night. Tonight I am adding
the bracing
		wires. Watch out Matt!



		Later!



		Brent
		

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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:20:20 -0500
From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: 1/72 Dr.1
Message-ID: <OFAAAE24A6.7F64A9C8-ON862568C4.005EC377@stsv.seagate.com>




Greetings!

>>The reborn Toko (AKA Roden) has announced a Dr.1 and an F.1.

Did they mention if it was a Fokker or SSW or what? It would figure we
would get a Fokker Dr.I from Eduard and from Roden. WWI modeling must be
getting popular. When was the last time you could choose between two
manufacturers for the same injected kit? This doesn't include Eduard vs
Glenco D.III :)

Later!

Brent



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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:24:15 +0100
From: geoff-smith@cwcom.net
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Goodbye; was, Champlin Fighter Museum
Message-ID: <02eee4823171140DIAL2@cwcom.net>

Tom,

I wasn't going to reply but feel I have to. I consider I'm being 
insulted by the manner in which you choose to put your views. 

I happen to agree with your views on the restoration/preservation of 
aircraft, but deplore the way you put them. If you were to apply 
your yardsticks to the movie industry, of which you are part, then 
surely the preservation of history should be of major importance. In 
making a historical film or one which contains historical events 
relevant to the storyline, shouldn't events therefore be accurate to 
the history? As we know this is very often not the case, in many 
cases the truth is so distorted as to be almost lies.

If, therefore, you use the argument that one pillock, of a particular 
political persuasion, who chooses to preserve his plane in the 
manner he decides, is therefore typical of all those of the same 
political persuasion, then what, in the context of the film industry, 
does that make you?

This list is, for the most part, devoid of politics, religion or any other 
contentious subject and should stay that way. It's not needed, it's 
not requested and for my part, it's not welcomed.

In other words, if you can't talk intelligently, keep yer gob shut.

Regards,

Geoff

> If General Lord Suvoroff chose to be insulted it was his choice.  The post
> had nothing to do with a person like him that I was aware of from any
> posts he has made in the three years I have known of him on the internet. 
> 
> 
> It is a fact among those who restore old airplanes that when you see some
> airplane done totally godawful, and you speak to the owner about it, his
> defense of his action will invariably end with, "besides, it's mine and I
> own it."  I doubt the owner of a Picasso would justify putting mustaches
> on the painting in such a way.  Old airplanes are worthy of similar
> respect and those who think their money buys them the right to do as they
> please with anything they please - particularly when it's an airplane -
> are not now or ever going to evade my displeasure; and I can assure anyone
> who is in doubt that there are numerous rich Southern California Democrats
> who have heard from me similarly.  If the Lord General was one of those so
> be it, but I doubt it from what I knew of him.  If he chooses to join them
> that's his business.



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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:25:45 -0500
From: Al Superczynski <modeleral@up-link.net>
To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu
Subject: Re: Announcing the RK-Tom Prize for...
Message-ID: <eflmfsskbe7j8t5ct1qgfj5ee2qei510kd@4ax.com>

On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:00:14 -0400 (EDT), Tom C. wrote:

>...whoever comes up with a universally recognisable "tongue in cheek" ought 
>to get a damn prize of some sort!

     How about this one?  ;-î

Al
http://www.up-link.net/~modeleral

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