WWI Digest 2231 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Americals Cigognes by "Lance Krieg" 2) Re: New lozenge question by Otisgood@aol.com 3) Re: Candice's 504 by "Candice Uhlir" 4) Re: Aeromaster lozenge decals by Otisgood@aol.com 5) Re: Amricals Cigognes by Otisgood@aol.com 6) Re: Amricals Cigognes by "DAVID BURKE" 7) List loser :-( by Shane Weier 8) Tauro decals and Eduard Hanriots by Otisgood@aol.com 9) Re: Tauro decals and Eduard Hanriots by Albatrosdv@aol.com 10) Re: Tauro decals and Eduard Hanriots by Sixmilfigs@cs.com 11) Ebay Photo (copy) by "Mike Dicianna" 12) More Ebay Pictures to comment about by "Mike Dicianna" 13) Observation balloons...... by JosMorn@aol.com 14) Re: Ebay Photo (copy) by "Bob Pearson" 15) Re: Observation balloons...... by Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com 16) Re: Observation balloons...... by Robert M Farrar III 17) Re: Tauro decals and Eduard Hanriots by "Matthew Bittner" 18) Re: Tauro decals and Eduard Hanriots by Sixmilfigs@cs.com 19) Re: l'oiseau blanc by Goebel Family 20) Decals for S-16 in 1/48th scale by "Michael Kendix" 21) Re: Candice's 504 by bucky@ptdprolog.net 22) Re: CDL-less in St. John's by bucky@ptdprolog.net 23) Re: New lozenge question by KarrArt@aol.com 24) Re: More Ebay Pictures to comment about by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: Another D-VII ? by Ernest Thomas 26) Re: Another D-VII ? by "Matthew Bittner" 27) Re: Another D-VII ? by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Re: Another D-VII ? by KarrArt@aol.com 29) Re: Observation balloons...... by BStett3770@aol.com 30) drunken rib tapes wasRe: Americals Cigognes by KarrArt@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:02:40 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Americals Cigognes Message-ID: The real treat on the 56 Squadron decals are those "Palmer Cord Aero Tyre" decals, which alone will save me about 4 hours per build. And speaking of decals and building WWI, I have noticed that I actually spend about as much time decalling as I do painting... and I'm talking about non-lozenge planes. I use decal for rib tapes, and that really slows things down. Damned tedious it is, too. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:03:16 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New lozenge question Message-ID: <15.252d3aa.26152924@aol.com> In a message dated Thu, 30 Mar 2000 4:54:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Lance Krieg" writes: << Hey, thanks to all who chimed in on this issue. It looks like some firms were using the lozenge on orders as early as April 1917. Clearly, Fokker waited for months before they began to do the same. Where do I send the prize? Lance Based on detail and "authoritativeness" I vote for Robert Karr. I'd like to see what he can do with that Breguet 14 anyway. Otis >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:05:44 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Candice's 504 Message-ID: <20000330220544.32696.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi, Im glad you enjoyed my 504. I wouldn't of been able to do anything like that without the help from all you guys on the list. Candice >From: Pedro e Francisca >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Candice's 504 >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:34:31 -0500 (EST) > >Candice, > >Just saw your Avro on MM. > >Absolutely exquisite. > >Congratulations on another super model. > > >Pedro > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:16:23 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Aeromaster lozenge decals Message-ID: In a message dated Thu, 30 Mar 2000 4:54:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, "laskodi" writes: << Each kit varies, but right now I don't have the patience to spend much more than 20 hours or so per kit. I also have kids which makes it pretty dangerous to keep anything around for more than a few weeks! I don't do much mods yet (unlike most of the people from this list) since I am new and don't know how to really change/fix things like most members of the list. But I am learning fast thanks to the great people here. I also "steal" a lot of ideas from here. And yes, about every other kit I have a disaster that I have to fix, but when I fix it, it usually isn't near as bad as I thought and I can usually hide it with pastels or something else. For example my AlbD3 on MM was completed real fast, in about 15 hours, but that was a "dream" build with no real challenges. ----Bob I'm kinda like you. Not a lot of patience. I couldn't work on the same kit for two years like some of these guys. Of course, most of them have several going at once, but I have enough trouble focusing on one at a time as it is. Yeah, those Eduard Albatri are something else. For a real quickie, you ought to try one of their Pfalz DIII's. Basically all silbergrau. Very simple cockpits and rigging. The new DIIIa Profipack looks to be a real gem. It includes the lozenge which, although not perfect, is basically all in one piece which helps to make up for it. I would get me some AeroM rib tapes though, or, just say dicta ira and skip 'em altogether. "So many models, so little time." Otis Otis ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Aeromaster lozenge decals > In a message dated Thu, 30 Mar 2000 3:56:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, "laskodi" writes: > > << Thanks Otis, you are far too kind in your appraisal of my stuff. > Actually, I'm a relative newbie to modeling and hope to some day be as good > as most of the people on this list! > And I definitely agree with your assessment that the more lozenge from > diffferent manufacturers the better! > ----Bob > > Well you're already better than this member and I've been building models off and on (admittedly more off than on) for 35 years. In fact, I get pretty frustrated because it seems 9 times out of 10 I'll be on the way to making a good model and something will happen to muck it up. Usually it's because I'm trying a new technique and I never get it right the first time. How long does it take you to complete one of your models, on average? Looking forward to your next project. > > Otis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: Aeromaster lozenge decals > > > > I don't know about bonus points but it will put you in my letter to Gaston > first. Thanks. > > By the way, I really like the stuff you've done on Modelling Madness. Very > nice work. In fact, intimidating. In fact, why don't you quit and go back > where you came! Just kidding. > > > > Otis > > In a message dated Thu, 30 Mar 2000 1:28:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, > "laskodi" writes: > > > > << Me-me-me-me-me > > Bob Laskodi > > 292 Briggs CT > > San Jose CA 95139 > > Does bring first give me bonus points!!! > > At any rate, I welcome their entry back into the lozenge fold. This stuff > is > > hard to get and I'm almost out! > > -----Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:44 AM > > Subject: Aeromaster lozenge decals > > > > > > > I just heard from Gaston at Aeromaster and he said they are working on > new > > lozenge decals, but want to be sure they get the colors just right. He has > > asked for the names and addresses of a few of our group who would be > willing > > to serve as consultants to review test samples for accuracy. I, of course, > > have offered my services, but I know some of you out there have strong > > feelings about how lozenge ought to look so if you will provide me your > > address I will send a list of 3-5 names to Gaston. This is a great > > opportunity for input and we can get some really high quality, reasonably > > priced lozenge. Now, to be fair, our own list member Eric Hight produces > > some very nice lozenge as well, and we all know that Americals is good, > too. > > However,the thing I like most about Aeromaster lozenge is their rib tapes > so > > it would be great to be able to get it all in one package. Actually, IMHO > > the world can never have enough lozenge decals so I think there will be > > plenty of business to go around. > > > > > > Otis > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:22:40 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Amricals Cigognes Message-ID: <25.3b32b0e.26152db0@aol.com> In a message dated Thu, 30 Mar 2000 4:56:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, Shane Weier writes: << Hi all, Just received a package from Americal Gryphon containing the Jasta 19, 56RFC and MS/N/SPA 3 decals. They're all terrific, best printed sets I think I've ever had from Americals. In particular though, the Cigognes are magnificent. They've been out quite some time, and unlike Matt I'm not that much of a fan of silver Nieuports, but I regret not having bought them earlier. NOT that I intend building 19 MS and Nieuport aircraft in 1/48, but I'll have to build at least one now Shane Maybe you can put the rest on your car, or whatever you guys ride around in out in the Outback.(or is it In Thru the Outdoor?) Otis PS What's a Cigogne? A cigar dippied in Cognac? ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:31:27 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Amricals Cigognes Message-ID: <008701bf9a97$f1277f60$4993aec7@dora9sprynet.com> A/G is GOOD stuff! DB -----Original Message----- From: Otisgood@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 4:24 PM Subject: Re: Amricals Cigognes >In a message dated Thu, 30 Mar 2000 4:56:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, Shane Weier writes: > ><< Hi all, > >Just received a package from Americal Gryphon containing the Jasta 19, 56RFC >and MS/N/SPA 3 decals. > >They're all terrific, best printed sets I think I've ever had from >Americals. In particular though, the Cigognes are magnificent. They've been >out quite some time, and unlike Matt I'm not that much of a fan of silver >Nieuports, but I regret not having bought them earlier. > > NOT that I intend building 19 MS and Nieuport aircraft in 1/48, but I'll >have to build at least one now > >Shane > >Maybe you can put the rest on your car, or whatever you guys ride around in out in the Outback.(or is it In Thru the Outdoor?) > >Otis > >PS What's a Cigogne? A cigar dippied in Cognac? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >************************************************************** >The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential >and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution >or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are >requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems >to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. >E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. >************************************************************** > >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:57:38 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: List loser :-( Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1EC0@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Hi all, The bleeding geniuses (genii?) looking after our mail system decided to change my email address without telling me. Consequently I've lost all the list mail over the last 16 hours. Sob, whimper. At least my one outgoing post re: Americals seems to have got to the list going by DB's response to Otis' comment. A/G *is* good stuff. I think I should buy more. I'll just cover my ute in excess Storks and ride on down to the Post Office ...... Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:37:26 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Tauro decals and Eduard Hanriots Message-ID: <6c.28877c8.2614c0a6@aol.com> Where can you get the Tauro wood grain decals? Also, has anyone who has completed an Eduard Hanriot noticed that the instructions are wrong about the wing struts? The front and rear interplane struts of Hanriots were distinctively different in shape, and although the Eduard kit pretty accurately captures the difference, unfortunately the instructions direct the modeler to put the rear struts on one side and the front struts on the other. I've noticed in a couple of reveiws of the Hanriot kits that the reviewer mentions some difficulty with getting the wings to fit correctly, but no one has mentioned this as the cause of the problem. Fortunately, I had an old Profile of the Hanriot and was able to pick this up before assembling the kit. My wings went on with no problem. In fact, all you have to do is attach the wing to the cabane struts first, and then you can easily insert the interplane struts. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:05:33 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tauro decals and Eduard Hanriots Message-ID: <36.3e7a9bd.261537bd@aol.com> In a message dated 3/30/100 6:03:12 PM EST, Otisgood@aol.com writes: << Where can you get the Tauro wood grain decals? >> Squadron has them listed in their Y2K catalogue. HTH Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:24:47 EST From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tauro decals and Eduard Hanriots Message-ID: <9e.2aff3b1.26153c3f@cs.com> In a message dated 3/30/00 6:03:21 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Otisgood@aol.com writes: << Where can you get the Tauro wood grain decals? >> Got mine from Squadron too, but I don't like them. They just don't look right. Plan on using them like blank decal film to cut up, use for ribs, and paint over. Regarding Aeromaster, could you forward a request (plea) that they look into producing OT 1/72 decals again. With the wave of new kits it seems economically viable to me. I know that AG makes an extensive line, but isn't more better? Shawn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:45:40 -0800 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: "WWI List Posting" Subject: Ebay Photo (copy) Message-ID: <00f601bf9aa2$0f2f49c0$3a7f3ace@pavilion> Interesting photo on Ebay....another set of copies by a guy we have had a discussion about recently. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=296348850 His description says it is Billik's Jasta 12 aircraft. Have not seen this one in any of the publications I have... Colors? MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:00:20 -0800 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: "WWI List Posting" Subject: More Ebay Pictures to comment about Message-ID: <010201bf9aa4$1b3a8fc0$3a7f3ace@pavilion> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=296363584 Nice detail shot of Albatros D.II goodies, radiators....note the little builder's ? plates below the cockpit. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=296377201 And this one would be of interest if it could be authenticated. I notice the treatment of the fuselage cross...crude painting of white surround? It does show the Albatros logo on the rudder like I have seen in other references.... MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:03:35 EST From: JosMorn@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Observation balloons...... Message-ID: <35.32e8c9a.26154557@aol.com> My friends....... A friend just today gave me a copy of her grandfather's diary which he had kept during his service as part of an observation balloon crew. He kept some good details, and now I feel inspired to add a balloon or two to my collection. Are there any such models out there? Jos. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:02:41 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Ebay Photo (copy) Message-ID: <200003310003.QAA22965@mail.rapidnet.net> Black fuselage . this is a fairly well-known a/c of Billik's. . it is profile 12-2 in my German series. I did it in October of 1989, before I started writing down my references, but IIRC it is in WINGS Dec'74 issue Bob ---------- >From: "Mike Dicianna" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Ebay Photo (copy) >Date: Thu, 30 Mar, 2000, 3:47 PM > > Interesting photo on Ebay....another set of copies by a guy we have had a > discussion about recently. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=296348850 > > His description says it is Billik's Jasta 12 aircraft. Have > not seen this one in any of the publications I have... > > Colors? > > MikeDC > "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:09:52 -0600 From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Observation balloons...... Message-ID: Howdy! >> Are there any such models out there? Yes there are. Barry at Rosemont Hobbies can help you out. Heck, he'll probably respond to your message. Brent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:15:20 -0600 From: Robert M Farrar III To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Observation balloons...... Message-ID: <38E3EE18.AFD899AE@airmail.net> Hi Jos, Try Rosemont Hobby Shop http://www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby/ GREAT company to deal with too! Bob JosMorn@aol.com wrote: > > My friends....... > > A friend just today gave me a copy of her grandfather's diary which he had > kept during his service as part of an observation balloon crew. He kept some > good details, and now I feel inspired to add a balloon or two to my > collection. Are there any such models out there? > > Jos. -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:01:14 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Tauro decals and Eduard Hanriots Message-ID: <200003310103.RAA03225@crow.a001.sprintmail.com> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:30:27 -0500 (EST), Sixmilfigs@cs.com wrote: > Regarding Aeromaster, could you forward a request (plea) that they look into > producing OT 1/72 decals again. With the wave of new kits it seems > economically viable to me. I know that AG makes an extensive line, but isn't > more better? Don't forget about Rosemont's!!!!!! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:07:02 EST From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Tauro decals and Eduard Hanriots Message-ID: <2f.348f1e8.26155436@cs.com> In a message dated 3/30/00 8:05:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << Don't forget about Rosemont's!!!!!! >> I did forget about them, but there is a sheet awaiting the appropriate plane in the pile. Very nice stuff indeed. Shawn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:10:55 -0800 From: Goebel Family To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: l'oiseau blanc Message-ID: <38E3FB1F.108FE71C@gte.net> Mark Vaughan-Jackson wrote: > Just had an idle thought. > It's a tad off topic but does anyone know where I can get my hands on some > references on L'Oiseau Blanc. The book Atlantic Wings by Kenneth McDonough has a nice 4 view color profile as well as a nice cutaway of the front end of the plane. > Also is there a kit of said bird? > > I'm not aware of any kit of the Levasseur PL-8 in any scale. Craig Goebel > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:35:16 PST From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Decals for S-16 in 1/48th scale Message-ID: <20000331013516.49513.qmail@hotmail.com> I received an email from Benjamin below asking about various things. I think I've answered his "What is CDL question" (not shown, but he's having difficulty finding decals in 1/48th scale for his S-16. I told him about Americals but I wonder if there are alternatives given that Americals are difficult to buy from if you live in Switzerland. Michael >From: "Benjamin Beglinger" > > > >Hello Michael > > > >Today I received the Sikorsky S-16 kit from MasterClub (1/48). > >Unfortunately there are absolutely no paint instructions on the > >construction sheet. And there are no decals either. Well, I guess > >I >can paint the signs by hand,... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:01:46 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Candice's 504 Message-ID: <38E4070A.E141E4A5@ptdprolog.net> Let me add my congrats to Pedro's. I copied the article for when I try and do mine. Mike Muth Pedro e Francisca wrote: > Candice, > > Just saw your Avro on MM. > > Absolutely exquisite. > > Congratulations on another super model. > > Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:03:19 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: CDL-less in St. John's Message-ID: <38E40767.AD7EA177@ptdprolog.net> I agree with Paul. It's my favorite choice. I tried using Polly-Scale/S CDL and it had a funny green tint. Next Time I'm going to try their french beige. Mike Muth Paul Schwartzkopf wrote: > Mark, > > I like the Testors Modern Desert Sand for CDL. It comes in a spray can, so if you want to airbrush it, spray it into a container first. > > Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:08:17 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New lozenge question Message-ID: <32.30a3da3.26156291@aol.com> In a message dated 3/30/00 2:05:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, Otisgood@aol.com writes: << << Hey, thanks to all who chimed in on this issue. It looks like some firms were using the lozenge on orders as early as April 1917. Clearly, Fokker waited for months before they began to do the same. Where do I send the prize? Lance Based on detail and "authoritativeness" I vote for Robert Karr. I'd like to see what he can do with that Breguet 14 anyway. Otis >> Aw shucks- I just had the D.S.Abbott-WW I Aero article spread out before me! (and a dandy article it is....I forgot about the List for a part of yesterday because I got absorbed in reading the whole piece, and not just scanning through the lozenge bits) RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:08:16 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: More Ebay Pictures to comment about Message-ID: <73.2146a33.26156290@aol.com> In a message dated 3/30/00 3:58:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, mikedc@dnc.net writes: << http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=296377201 And this one would be of interest if it could be authenticated. I notice the treatment of the fuselage cross...crude painting of white surround? It does show the Albatros logo on the rudder like I have seen in other references.... MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" >> This picture with the crudely retouched cross has popped up in a lot of "general" av-history books. Whether it's really MvR, I don't know! RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:53:03 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another D-VII ? Message-ID: <38E4130E.DABE3D4D@bellsouth.net> Lance Krieg wrote: > But I never noticed lightening holes in a Dr.I seat, either... and there are good pictures of MvR's seat. I could be wrong. I'm basing my assumtion on the Dr.I cut-away in the T-L Knights of the Air book, as well as a replica I saw in Alabamy some years back. I think I've got pictures on Alan's site. I know I've got pictures, but I'm not sure if I got pictures of the holy seat back on there. Any other opinions? Please? Before I drill? E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:21:10 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Another D-VII ? Message-ID: <200003310323.TAA07078@crow.a001.sprintmail.com> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:57:36 -0500 (EST), Ernest Thomas wrote: > I could be wrong. I'm basing my assumtion on the Dr.I cut-away in the T-L Knights of the Air book, as well as > a replica I saw in Alabamy some years back. I think I've got pictures on Alan's site. I know I've got > pictures, but I'm not sure if I got pictures of the holy seat back on there. > Any other opinions? Please? Before I drill? Don't drill!! According to the Anthology cut-a-way, the seat was solid. However, since it was covered in leather, it wouldn't matter anyway. So, in this instance, put away that drill! :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:24:16 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another D-VII ? Message-ID: <65.2ca652a.26157460@aol.com> In a message dated 3/30/00 6:55:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << I could be wrong. I'm basing my assumtion on the Dr.I cut-away in the T-L Knights of the Air book, as well as a replica I saw in Alabamy some years back. I think I've got pictures on Alan's site. I know I've got pictures, but I'm not sure if I got pictures of the holy seat back on there. Any other opinions? Please? Before I drill? E. >> STOP! Don't drill! No holes in Fokker seats No holes in Fokker seat. This is not a drill. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:24:50 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Another D-VII ? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/30/00 6:55:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << I could be wrong. I'm basing my assumtion on the Dr.I cut-away in the T-L Knights of the Air book, as well as a replica I saw in Alabamy some years back. I think I've got pictures on Alan's site. I know I've got pictures, but I'm not sure if I got pictures of the holy seat back on there. Any other opinions? Please? Before I drill? E. >> oh yeah- plus- don't believe everything you see in the T/L book. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:34:28 EST From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Observation balloons...... Message-ID: <57.3b5f85a.261576c4@aol.com> Hi Jos Visit my web page at : www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby We make both the German & French Observation Balloons in 1/72 scale. Click onto our W.W.I Stuff page and then click onto Roseplane for information & photos. Keep Modeling Barry Rosemont Hobby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:08:08 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: drunken rib tapes wasRe: Americals Cigognes Message-ID: In a message dated 3/30/00 2:05:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, lance.krieg@amerus.com writes: << I use decal for rib tapes, and that really slows things down. Damned tedious it is, too. Lance >> For no particular reason other than rib tapes are in my brain, I thought I'd mention something I observed about....rib tapes. Last weekend at an airshow, I started sighting down the chord line on all the ragwings I could see- Aeroncas, Cups, etc. Not one single rib on any airplane had a straight tape. In some cases, the tape completely veered off and almost missed covering the "stitching" and knotting altogether. Maybe not worth attempting to duplicate in the smaller scales, but if a tape decal goes just a tiny bit little squirrelly, I'm not going to worry about it. RK ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2231 **********************