WWI Digest 2228 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Spad XIII info needed by "Matthew Bittner" 2) Roland by "Dale Beamish" 3) New lozenge question by Otisgood@aol.com 4) Re: Passchendaele Conversion was Re: Photographs by Otisgood@aol.com 5) Re: New lozenge question by KarrArt@aol.com 6) DML Fokker National Marking decals? by "Charles and Linda Duckworth" 7) MAC MODELS Pfalz D.III by Sixmilfigs@cs.com 8) member list by "David Calhoun" 9) digital camera by "David Calhoun" 10) Re: DML Fokker National Marking decals? by "laskodi" 11) Another D-VII ? by Ernest Thomas 12) Re: USAAS mounts by KarrArt@aol.com 13) Re: Oh, one more thing... by KarrArt@aol.com 14) Holey Stones by Edward and Anna Swaim 15) Re: DH-4 WAS: What's (OT) on the work bench? by nieuport 16) Re: USAAS mounts by Ernest Thomas 17) Re: Help!! by "Jim Landon" 18) Re: USAAS mounts by Al Superczynski 19) RE: blue max by "John Glaser" 20) Re: USAAS mounts by nieuport 21) Re: blue max by Ernest Thomas 22) Re: D-VII ??? by Ernest Thomas 23) Re: USAAS mounts by KarrArt@aol.com 24) Re: USAAS mounts by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: blue max by KarrArt@aol.com 26) Renault 'Dorand' AR 1/2 (was Re: USAAS mounts) by "Bob Pearson" 27) Re: D-VII ??? by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Re: D-VII ??? by Lee Mensinger 29) Re: D-VII ??? by Lee Mensinger 30) Re: D-VII ??? by Ernest Thomas 31) Re: Felixstowes (was Re: Sunbeam Aero-Engines) by "Len Smith" 32) Re: Off Topic but need help by "Len Smith" 33) Re: USAAS mounts by "Len Smith" 34) Re: Felixstowes (was Re: Sunbeam Aero-Engines) by "Bob Pearson" 35) Roland CII by "Paul E. Thompson" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:04:53 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Spad XIII info needed Message-ID: <200003300107.RAA06118@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:38:07 -0500 (EST), DAVID BURKE wrote: > I have looked at Aeroplane Books and Hannan's Runway, and neither have > Datafile #32. Any suggestions? Have you tried Roll Models? Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:27:20 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: "List" Subject: Roland Message-ID: <00ca01bf99e7$31ffb540$03000004@darcy> Eduard's 1/48 Rolland CII is available on the VAMP website. Price is $18.75. Dale ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:26:55 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: New lozenge question Message-ID: <20.3dc830a.2614156f@aol.com> My NASM Albatros book states: "There does not seem to be a definite date for this change" [to lozenge] "except for a directive dated April 12, 1917, stating that all new aircraft would be covered with printed colored fabric."..."The first mention of printed fabric was in a German order dated October 7, 1916, calling for the return of all cloth held by plane manufacturers for the necessary color printing process, or to be exchanged for the printed fabric." It seems at least the decision to switch to lozenge was made as early as October, 1916. Of course it was some time before it actually made it onto any planes. One other note about lozenge finishes, according to NASM, lozenge fabric was given a final coat of "matte lacquer obtainable from the firm of Cohn in Berlin-Neukolin." Apparently the fabric had a flat, or maybe no more than a semi-gloss appearance; however, it appears that the insignia were applied with a gloss paint. The photos in the NASM book certainly bear this out. On page 75, the BW shots show the insignia to be definitely more glossy than the fabric. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:31:06 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Passchendaele Conversion was Re: Photographs Message-ID: In a message dated 3/29/00 4:48:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, laskodi@launchnet.com writes: > ll right, all right, you sold me. > Now, how do I get one of these puppies? > I've been wanting to do a D.II for some time. > ----Bob Email John Cyg at janah@worldnet.att.net He'll send you the info. Heck, he's probably reading this right now. Otis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:18:36 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New lozenge question Message-ID: <68.22fd31c.2614218c@aol.com> In a message dated 3/29/00 6:30:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, Otisgood@aol.com writes: << My NASM Albatros book states: "There does not seem to be a definite date for this change" [to lozenge] "except for a directive dated April 12, 1917, stating that all new aircraft would be covered with printed colored fabric."..."The first mention of printed fabric was in a German order dated October 7, 1916, calling for the return of all cloth held by plane manufacturers for the necessary color printing process, or to be exchanged for the printed fabric." >> The NASM book does have Oct 7 as the date for the same letter DanSan Abbott quotes in WW I Aero. DSA then goes onto say "two days later on Oct 29, another telgram was sent" specifying night aircraft would only have crosses, and day planes would have a 5cm whire border. SSW heard from Idflieg on April 12, 1917 to stop using the red/brown paint, and got the official order to start applying lozenge on April 21, 1917. For all four letters, DSA quotes large segments, translated by William Puglisi, listed among the 45 footnotes to the article. (Jeez- when DSA gets his teeth into something, he really chomps!) RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:48:23 -0600 From: "Charles and Linda Duckworth" To: "ww1FAQ" Subject: DML Fokker National Marking decals? Message-ID: <003501bf99fa$de07f380$ea2c57d8@cnlduckwor> I've got the Fokker triplane finished up to adding the DML National markings to the top wing and fuselage. I've streaked the entire top wing and fuselage sides - is the white decal used by DML opaque enough to not let the dark green/CDL streaking show through or do I need to airbrush a patch of white paint where these decals are to be placed? Thanks, Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:41:37 EST From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: MAC MODELS Pfalz D.III Message-ID: <4d.27780aa.261426f1@cs.com> Noticed on the Rosemont site that Barry has the Mac Models Pfalz D.III kit in stock. Barry, care to offer an in box review? Is it better than the Fokker E IV? Shawn Kennedy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:44:28 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: member list Message-ID: <002501bf9a13$67299de0$d1093ccc@oemcomputer> Hello, A while ago a member list was posted, but my computer crashed and I lost it. Can anyone send me this file again? Thanks, Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:55:14 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: digital camera Message-ID: <007301bf9a14$e8079e20$d1093ccc@oemcomputer> Hello, Once again I lost the most recent e-mail about the Polaroid PDC 700. Could whoever posted the info on this camera please e-mail me off line with the same? Thanks, Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:57:36 -0800 From: "laskodi" To: Subject: Re: DML Fokker National Marking decals? Message-ID: <001501bf99fc$1689c840$333819d0@laskodi> They are border-line opaque. Depends on how dark the streaking is. I would airbrush white as a safe choice for another reason to consider. I found the white backing area to be a tad bit too large and had to trim some excess. If you mess up (like me!) and tear a little when you trim.......... -----Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles and Linda Duckworth" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 7:45 PM Subject: DML Fokker National Marking decals? > I've got the Fokker triplane finished up to adding the DML National markings > to the top wing and fuselage. I've streaked the entire top wing and > fuselage sides - is the white decal used by DML opaque enough to not let the > dark green/CDL streaking show through or do I need to airbrush a patch of > white paint where these decals are to be placed? > > Thanks, Charlie > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:17:20 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: "11111qqqqqqsd'f'dc]v" Subject: Another D-VII ? Message-ID: <38E2D54F.43833990@bellsouth.net> Real quick. Lightening holes in the seat back, ala Dr.I? E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:20:59 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: USAAS mounts Message-ID: <13.33bd18a.2614302b@aol.com> In a message dated 3/29/00 12:43:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, modeleral@up-link.net writes: << Dorand AR 1 and 2 (what the heck are these?) >> goofy looking French two seaters, with a kind of gap-toothed charisma. RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:21:04 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Oh, one more thing... Message-ID: In a message dated 3/28/00 8:21:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > YES....... I want to see the whole mess! I've seen it. Yes, you do want to see it. E. >> I have now seen it. I sit. I weep. I plot. RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:32:23 -0600 From: Edward and Anna Swaim To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Holey Stones Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20000330043223.0068a934@aristotle.net> Somebody wrote: >...the acquifer rocks called "holey Stones" an I believe another name was >"Karst Limestone"... I work with several geologists whose specialty is ground water at the Arkansas Soil and Water Conservation Commission. One is even supposed to be a Karst expert. I didn't see your first post--what are you looking for. I'll ask the geologists about it. Edward Swaim Little Rock, Arkansas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:32:10 -0500 From: nieuport To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: DH-4 WAS: What's (OT) on the work bench? Message-ID: <38E2D8CA.C6295710@home.com> I have two different plans for it - 1 in the British section and one in the American (USD-9) -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:30:02 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: USAAS mounts Message-ID: <38E2D846.BFF563BE@bellsouth.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > with a kind of gap-toothed charisma. Oh, like Lauren Hutton? vavavaVOOM! E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:29:35 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Help!! Message-ID: <20000330042935.85272.qmail@hotmail.com> Back on Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:26:55 EST KarrArt@aol.com said: <> Thanks for the kind words Robert. I've created a couple new web pages that you guys might enjoy: Tommy goes to the museum: http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/1917tommy/page37.html Air Fair page 1: http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/1917tommy/page38.html Air Fair page 2: http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/1917tommy/page39.html Jim Landon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:29:48 -0600 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: USAAS mounts Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:25:13 -0500 (EST), RK wrote: >In a message dated 3/29/00 12:43:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, >modeleral@up-link.net writes: > ><< Dorand AR 1 and 2 (what the heck are these?) >> > > goofy looking French two seaters, with a kind of gap-toothed charisma. I like it! Found a picture at http://aerospace.student.umd.edu/ntp1-060699.html but no others. Does anyone else have any pics of this a/c? Was there ever a 1/72 scale kit done in any medium? TIA, Al http://www.up-link.net/~modeleral ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:30:57 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: blue max Message-ID: <000201bf9a00$bf25db70$8d00000a@johnghome> Naw! The towel was one of the better parts of the movie. An engineering miracle. The lousy stuff? How about pulling on the charging handle to fire the spandaus? Or an all loz tripe? - JCG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of dfernet0 Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 1:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: blue max Yeech! That cockpit mock-up was lousy! One of the worst moments in the movie (along with the adhesive towel of UA). IMHO D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Harris, Mack To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 3:50 PM Subject: blue max > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=292444807 > > Interesting item. > Mack > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:40:22 -0500 From: nieuport To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: USAAS mounts Message-ID: <38E2DAB6.60B85113@home.com> drawings of AR.1 at http://members.home.net/french-ac/French_DtoH.html partway down page AR.2 was similar iirc -- Mike Fletcher ___ ., mdf@mars.ark.com |-\|^----! ; nieuport@home.com |--n--""*" http://members.home.net/nieuport/ icq=19554083 @ http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html If you don't know where you're going, you're never lost. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:49:13 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: blue max Message-ID: <38E2DCC8.3805C12@bellsouth.net> John Glaser wrote: > Naw! The towel was one of the better parts of the movie. An engineering > miracle. The lousy stuff? How about pulling on the charging handle to fire > the spandaus? How about the script, and all the lousy acting, especially from stupid George Peppard? Want to see a good movie? It's ot, but I still give it two thumbs up; 'Tank Girl'. E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:59:17 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: D-VII ??? Message-ID: <38E2DF24.A4ABE38E@bellsouth.net> Thanks Lee. The recent OTF article says the chevrons on the wing were squadron markings and were either black or white on the underside of the lower wing. Mike K. did his in black, RK quoted an article in favor of black. But in the OTF article, there's a few pictures of some of Stark's paintings, which clearly show the underside chevrons as white. I guess the question now is, what would have determined wether the chevrons were black or white? Rank? Kill record? Paint supply? E. Lee Mensinger wrote: > Ernest, you asked about the underside of Stark's plane and I have not > found a photo of the underside of the fuselage yet, but, the underside > of the horizontal stabilizer and elevators is the same as the top on the > plane in the AF Museum. I have seen a "low level", close to the ground > view, color photo that allows me to see the underside of the tail plane > on the right hand side. I am sure the other side is the same. > > I have access to photos taken by the builder of the replica and as soon > as I can I will go through more of the documentation and see if I can > find any photos of the underside of the fuselage. It may take a while > but I will also ask the builder in about a week. He is away at the > present time. > > Lee M ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:01:44 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: USAAS mounts Message-ID: <90.256084e.261439b8@aol.com> In a message dated 3/29/00 8:32:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > with a kind of gap-toothed charisma. Oh, like Lauren Hutton? vavavaVOOM! E. >> or Letterman...or Ray Davies...or me....hmmm.....maybe you're right. Yeah- Lauren Hutton. But does she have her fuselage suspended between her wings? Does she have back-stagger? RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:01:44 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: USAAS mounts Message-ID: <65.2c3186f.261439b8@aol.com> In a message dated 3/29/00 8:34:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, modeleral@up-link.net writes: << > ><< Dorand AR 1 and 2 (what the heck are these?) >> > > goofy looking French two seaters, with a kind of gap-toothed charisma. I like it! Found a picture at http://aerospace.student.umd.edu/ntp1-060699.html but no others. Does anyone else have any pics of this a/c? Was there ever a 1/72 scale kit done in any medium? TIA, Al http://www.up-link.net/~modeleral >> ALMOST put one in my Nieuport 28 diorama as a visiting aircraft, because a US unit had them just a few miles away- I forgot why I dropped the idea aside from no cockpit detail- maybe the last ones were just out of front line American service before the time period depicted. I found pretty good drawings, but no cockpit stuff- the bane of modeling! Went with a Spad V.II instead to break up the Nieuport monotony RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:01:43 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: blue max Message-ID: <78.348ac49.261439b7@aol.com> In a message dated 3/29/00 8:37:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, Jasta11@pdq.net writes: << Naw! The towel was one of the better parts of the movie. An engineering miracle. The lousy stuff? How about pulling on the charging handle to fire the spandaus? Or an all loz tripe? - JCG >> But you can condense it down to about 11 minutes of not bad aerial action (plus the UA wonder towel) RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:05:17 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Renault 'Dorand' AR 1/2 (was Re: USAAS mounts) Message-ID: <200003300506.VAA15973@mail.rapidnet.net> I may have some profiles of the AR up at my WW1 profile site in the USAS section. . it is also on my CD-SAMPLE page in among the French aircraft from Escadrille 258 .. with a green duck on it (the origins are from that colourful American expression for doing nothing. ... F**k a duck) Regards, Bob Pearson Visit my WW1 Aviation page http://members.xoom.com/Sopwith_5F1 For the CBR/RNP Profile page visit http://members.xoom.com/profileart/ Managing Editor / Internet Modeler http://www.internetmodeler.com ---------- >From: Al Superczynski >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: USAAS mounts >Date: Wed, 29 Mar, 2000, 8:37 PM > > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:25:13 -0500 (EST), RK wrote: > >>In a message dated 3/29/00 12:43:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, >>modeleral@up-link.net writes: >> >><< Dorand AR 1 and 2 (what the heck are these?) >> >> >> goofy looking French two seaters, with a kind of gap-toothed charisma. > > I like it! Found a picture at > http://aerospace.student.umd.edu/ntp1-060699.html but no others. Does > anyone else have any pics of this a/c? Was there ever a 1/72 scale > kit done in any medium? > > TIA, > Al > http://www.up-link.net/~modeleral ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:12:09 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: D-VII ??? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/29/00 9:01:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: << But in the OTF article, there's a few pictures of some of Stark's paintings, which clearly show the underside chevrons as white. I guess the question now is, what would have determined wether the chevrons were black or white? Rank? Kill record? Paint supply? E. >> I'm just too lazy to go dig out the article again, but the white stripes in Stark's paintings are chalked up to maybe artistic license in his art or some such reason. Or maybe a thing that changed over time....... RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:19:55 -0600 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: D-VII ??? Message-ID: <38E2E3FB.A347B16@wireweb.net> I have been busy as a cat on the proverbial roof and Roger Freeman builder of the Museum D-VII has been away for weeks. I am just now getting out and I get down to the field and my hands on the book that recorded the building and research on the Fokker. I am sure somewhere I will find sonmething about the underwing stuff. Maybe even a photo. Roger will remember and I will see him on the 1st of April at the gathering of the clan where we will search for new members. I'll let you know what ever and however I find out. Lee M. Ernest Thomas wrote: > Thanks Lee. The recent OTF article says the chevrons on the wing were > squadron markings and were either black or white on the underside of the > lower wing. Mike K. did his in black, RK quoted an article in favor of > black. But in the OTF article, there's a few pictures of some of Stark's > paintings, which clearly show the underside chevrons as white. I guess the > question now is, what would have determined wether the chevrons were black > or white? Rank? Kill record? Paint supply? > E. > > Lee Mensinger wrote: > > > Ernest, you asked about the underside of Stark's plane and I have not > > found a photo of the underside of the fuselage yet, but, the underside > > of the horizontal stabilizer and elevators is the same as the top on the > > plane in the AF Museum. I have seen a "low level", close to the ground > > view, color photo that allows me to see the underside of the tail plane > > on the right hand side. I am sure the other side is the same. > > > > I have access to photos taken by the builder of the replica and as soon > > as I can I will go through more of the documentation and see if I can > > find any photos of the underside of the fuselage. It may take a while > > but I will also ask the builder in about a week. He is away at the > > present time. > > > > Lee M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:36:34 -0600 From: Lee Mensinger To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, lemen@wireweb.net Subject: Re: D-VII ??? Message-ID: <38E2E7E2.BA2D27EF@wireweb.net> OTF says Chevron on the underwing area was probably black, but, may have been white. I will try to check and see how it was done on teh machine displayed at Wright Pat in the USAF Museum. Roger built it and I am sure he will remember. Lee M. KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/29/00 9:01:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, > ethomas6@bellsouth.net writes: > > << But in the OTF article, there's a few pictures of some of Stark's > paintings, which clearly show the underside chevrons as white. I guess the > question now is, what would have determined wether the chevrons were black > or white? Rank? Kill record? Paint supply? > E. > >> > > I'm just too lazy to go dig out the article again, but the white stripes in > Stark's paintings are chalked up to maybe artistic license in his art or some > such reason. Or maybe a thing that changed over time....... > RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:04:33 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: D-VII ??? Message-ID: <38E2EE6F.6CA026FD@bellsouth.net> Thanks guys. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:20:25 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Felixstowes (was Re: Sunbeam Aero-Engines) Message-ID: <001a01bf9a10$47030e00$c7857ed4@mesh> Bob wrote, > For Felixstowes check out > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Pearson or my WW1 page. The latter has a > dozen of the Felixstowes in my older watercolour series .. I have since > redone them as computer profiles and am collecting information on the > Felixstowes (along with an author of high repute) for an eventual book on > them and the Curtiss boats. ... AFAIK Rimell is also planning a volume on > these cool boats. The FMP volumes on British markings will have at least a > dozen Felixstowe and Curtiss H-16s .... Datafile 82 'Felixstowe F.2A' is due out in July this year. Are FMP back in business or has someone else taken them over? Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:20:51 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Off Topic but need help Message-ID: <001b01bf9a10$48c6b700$c7857ed4@mesh> Tom, These can't be genuine Polish names, they have too many vowels in them ! Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Tomasz Gronczewski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Off Topic but need help > Here you are: > > "Given_Name" "Family_Name" > "Street" "House_No" / "Flat_No_If_Applicable" > "Postal_Code" "Town" > "Poland" > > For example: > > Grzegorz Brzeczyszczykiewicz > ul. Zdziernoprzednia 38a/12 > PL-12-345 Zdzieszowice > Poland > > I have used simple name without typical Polish characters in order to > pronounce it easily. :-) > > HTH > > Tom > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:21:21 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: USAAS mounts Message-ID: <001d01bf9a10$49f4d6c0$c7857ed4@mesh> Al, There is a vacform AR 1 from Joystick. Available from Hannants or Aeroclub in the UK, sorry I don't know of any US stockist. Regards LEn. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Superczynski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 5:37 AM Subject: Re: USAAS mounts > On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:25:13 -0500 (EST), RK wrote: > > >In a message dated 3/29/00 12:43:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, > >modeleral@up-link.net writes: > > > ><< Dorand AR 1 and 2 (what the heck are these?) >> > > > > goofy looking French two seaters, with a kind of gap-toothed charisma. > > I like it! Found a picture at > http://aerospace.student.umd.edu/ntp1-060699.html but no others. Does > anyone else have any pics of this a/c? Was there ever a 1/72 scale > kit done in any medium? > > TIA, > Al > http://www.up-link.net/~modeleral > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:48:32 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Felixstowes (was Re: Sunbeam Aero-Engines) Message-ID: <200003300649.WAA20303@mail.rapidnet.net> DAMN!!!! I better publish my Felixstowes online soon .... oh well, at least I know I did them two years ago and not from the datafile. Bob ---------- >From: "Len Smith" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Felixstowes (was Re: Sunbeam Aero-Engines) >Date: Wed, 29 Mar, 2000, 10:26 PM > > Bob wrote, > >> For Felixstowes check out >> http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Pearson or my WW1 page. The latter has > a >> dozen of the Felixstowes in my older watercolour series .. I have since >> redone them as computer profiles and am collecting information on the >> Felixstowes (along with an author of high repute) for an eventual book on >> them and the Curtiss boats. ... AFAIK Rimell is also planning a volume on >> these cool boats. The FMP volumes on British markings will have at least a >> dozen Felixstowe and Curtiss H-16s .... > > Datafile 82 'Felixstowe F.2A' is due out in July this year. > > Are FMP back in business or has someone else taken them over? > > Regards Len. > > lensmith@clara.net > http://home.clara.net/lensmith > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:31:27 +0200 From: "Paul E. Thompson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Roland CII Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000330093127.007cdd60@pop.xs4all.nl> Hi there, FWIW there is the old Profile Publications number 163, the Roland CII (retail price 2 shillings, so I assume it's hard to come buy. I have a copy in the collection Flypast 6, which also covers the SE5, Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter, Short Seaplane 184, DH5, DH9, Hanriot HD-1, Breguet 14,Phonix scouts DI - DIV, and Gotha GI tp GV. mostly by J.M. Bruce, but the Roland and the Gotha by Peter Grosz. The collection was published in 1972, and much research has flown under the bridge since, but they're still very useful. Short on interiors though, and no cockpit shots of the Roland. I'm sure the Datafile is more comprehensive, but there are some nice colour profiles by R. Ward (6 left hand side views of DIIs and one of the prototype, plus a 5 way view of a fish-scale finished light-blue job). If anyone is interested I can scan relevant portions of any of these Profiles. Busy at the moment with the Hit Kit 1/72 Albatros DIII Oef, Xtravac of the same, the Pegasus Alb.CII, and Eduard 1/48 Alb DV. Also 95% done with the Aeroclub Sopwith kit, where I was temporarily fazed by their own plans which showed a solid top wing, supposedly on the Shuttleworth machine, and some shots in the Datafile which for some reason I couldn't get through my thick noggin were of the Hendon example. This has nice red leather which I dutifully replicated, then realised that the Shuttleworth one has black leather. And a nice big skylight in the wing. Ho hum, hack and slash, got right in the end. I hope. Paul. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2228 **********************