WWI Digest 2207 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: SPAD 12 info by "David Calhoun" 2) Re: Find the hole by "David Calhoun" 3) Re: DML Fokker DrI by "Charles and Linda Duckworth" 4) Rickenbacker's Rumpler by "David Calhoun" 5) Re: OTF seminar and list badge by DavidL1217@aol.com 6) Re: General Modelling Question by "Roger Belanger" 7) Re: Re:Photoetching by "Roger Belanger" 8) RE: OT rare pictures by "John Glaser" 9) Re: Etched brass results by "Limon3" 10) ebay photo of Albatros D.V by Dave Watts 11) ebay Albatros photos continued by Dave Watts 12) List Buttons by Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com 13) Re: ebay photo of Albatros D.V by Zulis@aol.com 14) Re: List Buttons by "Bob Pearson" 15) Re: ebay photo of Albatros D.V by Fernando Lamas 16) Re: ebay photo of Albatros D.V by "Bob Pearson" 17) 1/28 Camel questions by "DAVID BURKE" 18) Re: The Spirit Is Upon Me... - was : Weekend o' fun! by KarrArt@aol.com 19) Re: OT rare pictures by KarrArt@aol.com 20) RE: 1/28 Camel questions by Shane Weier 21) RE: ebay photo of Albatros D.V by "dfernet0" 22) Re: Re:Photoetching by "D Charles" 23) Re: Fast Metal to Metal Adhesive by "D Charles" 24) Re: ebay photo of Albatros D.V by "Matthew Bittner" 25) RE: ebay photo of Albatros D.V by "dfernet0" 26) Sigmans Albatros D.Va (the star-spangled one) by Shane Weier 27) Re: Sigmans Albatros D.Va (the star-spangled one) by "Dale Beamish" 28) Re: 1/28 Camel questions by "Charles and Linda Duckworth" 29) Re: DML Fokker DrI by "Lance Krieg" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:38:53 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: SPAD 12 info Message-ID: <002301bf92f7$bf973b40$86e23ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Matt, when my computer crashed i forgot to reset it to plain text. Hopefully the copy I sent is in plain text - let me know if it is not. Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Zivich To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, March 20, 2000 11:49 AM Subject: Re: SPAD 12 info >Dave, >My computer (Netscape) can't decipher your last message. Is there some other >way you can send it? >Matt Z. > >David Calhoun wrote: > >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >> >> ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BF91A8.E6DC6540 >> Content-Type: text/plain; >> charset="iso-8859-1" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> Hi all,=20 >> Seems that no one can find any drawings or photos of the SPAD 12 = >> interior. I have a list of backissues of WW 1 Aero magazine that has a = >> few items of interest, but I don't have any of the issues. If anyone = >> has these, can they check the listed items and make copies or scans for = >> me? >> #88 feb 82 has 37mm cannon in Hispano-Suiza K >> #145 Aug 94 Engines (cannon thru propellers) >> #133 Aug 91 Cockpit index of all items since #33 (does it have any for = >> SPAD 12?) >> Also of interest to me is #104 Apr 85 with Nungesser's Nieuport 17 and = >> Fonck's Spads. >> Thanks all, >> Dave Calhoun >> >> ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BF91A8.E6DC6540 >> Content-Type: text/html; >> charset="iso-8859-1" >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >> >> >> >> >> > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> >> >> >> >>

Hi all,

Seems that no one can find any = >> drawings or=20 >> photos of the SPAD 12 interior. I have a list of backissues of WW = >> 1 Aero=20 >> magazine that has a few items of interest, but I don't have any of the=20 >> issues. If anyone has these, can they check the listed items and = >> make=20 >> copies or scans for me?

#88 feb 82 has 37mm cannon in = >> Hispano-Suiza=20 >> K

#145 Aug 94 Engines (cannon thru=20 >> propellers)

#133 Aug 91 Cockpit index of all = >> items since #33=20 >> (does it have any for SPAD 12?)

Also of interest to me is #104 Apr = >> 85 with=20 >> Nungesser's Nieuport 17 and Fonck's Spads.

Thanks all,

Dave = >> Calhoun

>> >> ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BF91A8.E6DC6540-- > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:41:12 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: Find the hole Message-ID: <002c01bf92f8$11f6e0c0$86e23ccc@oemcomputer> Hi Mack, If you use lots of Micro sil on the decals, it will suck them into the holes (enough to give you the location) usually small dimple, which can be punched with a pin, and a little more Microsol will draw the decal into the hole. Dave Calhoun -----Original Message----- From: Harris, Mack To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, March 20, 2000 12:05 PM Subject: Find the hole >I am currently building DML's Fokker DVIII. I'm planning on using the >supplied lozenge decals for the fuselage. While I was drilling the holes >for the rudder and elevator cables I begin to think (a dangerous proposition >in itself) "once I cover these holes with decal how will I find them again? >Maybe this is something I shouldn't worry about as when it happens it will >be obvious where the holes are but maybe not. >Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >Mack > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:53:22 -0600 From: "Charles and Linda Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: DML Fokker DrI Message-ID: <002101bf92e0$a4053ec0$272c57d8@cnlduckwor> >If you into such things, the oil pulsator, spark arrest, and emergency engine stop lever can be added to the interior. > >None of these additions is as onerous as fixing those strange rib trenches under the wings. Lance What started off as a simple build has turned into a bigger deal.........I've scratch built the steel tube interior this weekend and filled in the wing trenches with Dr. Micro putty, so where does one find where all the above data on the cockpit? I have the WS Special is there other sources around I should be using as well? Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:49:04 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Rickenbacker's Rumpler Message-ID: <008601bf92f9$2bd737a0$86e23ccc@oemcomputer> In "Fighting the Flying Circus" Rickenbacker mentions seeing a Rumpler with a rising sun painted on the fuselage. Does anyone have any ideas about this aircraft? Any photos, drawings or other info would be appriciated. Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:53:21 EST From: DavidL1217@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OTF seminar and list badge Message-ID: <50.2f14774.26083e21@aol.com> See you in Pensacola, Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:53:14 -0500 From: "Roger Belanger" To: Subject: Re: General Modelling Question Message-ID: <011501bf92e1$95f93f60$a8a24d0c@rogerb1> I have used Pastels extensively in modeling, if your color does not come out dark enough you will have to use a little darker shade. I scrape the pastel with a Exacto blade to make a powder of it, use a nylon brush when I apply it. If you use a spray fixative you will have to apply it heavier as the fixative will tend to absorb it and tone it down, I did not use a fixative as my models will not be handled very much after I apply the chalks. There are two different kinds of Pastel chalk, one is like regular chalk and the other is Oil Pastel and is a little different, you can experiment with them to see which you like the best, If I can be any help to you write me at my address........Roger B ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 5:41 AM Subject: General Modelling Question > So, those amongst you who use pastels as a weathering medium; how do you get > the pastels to stick to your models? I have had no problem with getting > black (for engine exhaust) and other dark colors to lay on strong enough to > be visible, but I just can't seem to get enough of the lighter shades to stay > on to make a visible impression. I matt the model down good prior to > application, so the surface should be right. > > Yours, > James D. Gray > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:57:46 -0500 From: "Roger Belanger" To: Subject: Re: Re:Photoetching Message-ID: <011801bf92e1$9cc953c0$a8a24d0c@rogerb1> take it to a copier or scan and reduce it to the size that you want....Roger B ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Re:Photoetching > > > > > Howdy, > > >Draw a tree on the brass, then cut out patterns for control horns seat > >belts., inst. rings from tape. Masking, incisible 3M, and label maker > (dial > >a letter) tape all work. > > Isn't there a way to shrink your pattern down with a copier or something? > It would be nice to make the pattern 2X then reduce it with the copier. Can > Kinko's print the pattern directly on the brass for you? > > Just idle wonderings... > > Brent > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:43:47 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: OT rare pictures Message-ID: <000001bf92e7$aca10e40$8d00000a@johnghome> Hey RK! How about these for some figure sculptures? Particularly the second one! - JG -----Original Message----- From: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu [mailto:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu]On Behalf Of dfernet0 Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 1:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: OT rare pictures This is for the zeppelin modelers on the list: http://www.greatwar.com/ARCHIVES/us007bs_German_Airship_crew.JPG And this one for the figure modelers -in any scale!- http://www.greatwar.com/ARCHIVES/us006as_German_120IR.JPG D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:59:28 -0800 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: Etched brass results Message-ID: <002101bf93b3$05fda040$8f4e1c3f@f4w2s5> Hi Peter. Just send all your photoetch to Modesto, CA in August. With our 100+ temps, it'll sizzle in no time. Regards, Gabe. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Leonard To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, March 20, 2000 7:16 AM Subject: Re: Etched brass results >SP..."It isn't until you use actual photo resist and develop that > before etching that you can work several times the size and > reduce it. That's the next step." > >And for that you'll need a UV light source amongst other things. I've used a >sun bed, but those of you in warmer climes can even use sunlight, it just >takes a little longer. For negatives OHP slides are perfectly acceptable, >and the computer technology we all enjoy here helps a lot. The ability to >invert an image from positive to negative and to resize almost at will are >very useful. > >Personally I have only ever had limited success with etch, but some of the >no fuss no nonsense methods discussed earlier in this thread may persuade me >to have another go. > >cheers > >Peter L > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:05:42 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Subject: ebay photo of Albatros D.V Message-ID: <200003210406.XAA03383@ind.cioe.com> Hi all, Check out these two never published? original, (printed in 1918), prints of a Albatros D.V with skull and cross bones on the sides. Any one identify this one? Best, Dave Watts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:08:02 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: Subject: ebay Albatros photos continued Message-ID: <200003210408.XAA03434@ind.cioe.com> Sorry, I forgot to mention the address. I'm slipping! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281632895 Best, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:06:57 -0600 From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: List Buttons Message-ID: Hey! Has anyone tried printing these out yet? I think Bob sent me the 1/24th scale one because it's about the size of my hand. (I wonder if I can print it on a t-shirt...) Anyhow, does anyone have an idea about how to get a button made? Do copy shops do this? Later! Brent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:09:41 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ebay photo of Albatros D.V Message-ID: <4f.1d64b36.26085005@aol.com> In a message dated 00-03-20 23:08:09 EST, you write: << Hi all, Check out these two never published? original, (printed in 1918), prints of a Albatros D.V with skull and cross bones on the sides. Any one identify this one? Best, Dave Watts >> Umm, Dave - you forgot to attach the urls..... DZ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:14:46 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: List Buttons Message-ID: <200003210415.UAA05783@mail.rapidnet.net> I sent you the button at 100% and 360dpi .. when you print it out it should be normal size Bob ---------- >From: Brent_A_Theobald@notes.seagate.com >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: List Buttons >Date: Mon, 20 Mar, 2000, 8:13 PM > > Hey! > > Has anyone tried printing these out yet? I think Bob sent me the 1/24th > scale one because it's about the size of my hand. (I wonder if I can print > it on a t-shirt...) Anyhow, does anyone have an idea about how to get a > button made? Do copy shops do this? > > Later! > > Brent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:57:31 -0800 From: Fernando Lamas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ebay photo of Albatros D.V Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000320205731.008c4a50@olympus.net> At 11:11 PM 3/20/00 -0500, you wrote: >Hi all, > > Check out these two never published? original, (printed in 1918), prints >of a Albatros D.V with skull and cross bones on the sides. Any one >identify this one? > >Best, >Dave Watts I have a jpeg of this same aircraft with the crosses painted over with roundels. (I am sending it to you....and anyone else who wants it...off-list.) The jpegs are from the collection of one of my European collector Internet friends. He has since sold them. For what it's worth, he stated that they were from an "Allied testing aerodrome". If it's a "G" aircraft, which "G" is it? I have never seen them published. However, since the other photos on the album page on eBay feature a wide range of subjects, I would guess they came in a souvenier photo package sold to Doughboys. Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:08:14 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: ebay photo of Albatros D.V Message-ID: <200003210508.VAA07809@mail.rapidnet.net> A photo of it with roundels is in WINGS Dec'74, page 47 Bob ---------- >From: Fernando Lamas >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: ebay photo of Albatros D.V >Date: Mon, 20 Mar, 2000, 9:04 PM > > At 11:11 PM 3/20/00 -0500, you wrote: >>Hi all, >> >> Check out these two never published? original, (printed in 1918), prints >>of a Albatros D.V with skull and cross bones on the sides. Any one >>identify this one? >> >>Best, >>Dave Watts > > I have a jpeg of this same aircraft with the crosses painted over with > roundels. (I am sending it to you....and anyone else who wants > it...off-list.) The jpegs are from the collection of one of my European > collector Internet friends. He has since sold them. For what it's worth, > he stated that they were from an "Allied testing aerodrome". > > If it's a "G" aircraft, which "G" is it? > > I have never seen them published. However, since the other photos on the > album page on eBay feature a wide range of subjects, I would guess they > came in a souvenier photo package sold to Doughboys. > > Fernando Lamas > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 23:36:49 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: 1/28 Camel questions Message-ID: <002801bf92f7$760241a0$9a84aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Hey Folks, I am somehow blazing thru scratching the cockpit of this 1/28 Sopwith Camel, and have a question about the seatbelts - I assume simply lap belts. Are they similar to a Sutton type harness, or are they different? Also, what color would interior structural metal fittings like these gusset plates on the frame be? I am assuming a battleship grey or similar, but does anyone have the full dope on it? The framing and main fuel tank are done, and I should get thru the auxiliary tank and joystick mounting tonight. Maybe even start the seat too. DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:48:47 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: The Spirit Is Upon Me... - was : Weekend o' fun! Message-ID: <6a.13dacca.2608673f@aol.com> In a message dated 3/20/00 6:36:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, dora9@sprynet.com writes: << Well, gotta go put the bracing wires between the gusset plates on the fuselage frame.... THE SPIRIT IS UPON ME!!! My last completed kit was a (beautiful) 1-oh-thingie and my soul needs to be HEALED!! Hallelujah! Bracing wires!! DB >> 'at's the spirit! (maybe try a hand carved prop?) RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:48:46 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: OT rare pictures Message-ID: <84.2d1ab7f.2608673e@aol.com> In a message dated 3/20/00 7:50:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, Jasta11@pdq.net writes: << Hey RK! How about these for some figure sculptures? Particularly the second one! - JG >> I'm still trying to see the darn things! Every time I've tried I get the ol' "Connection Timed out" message after about a second and a half. RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:52:54 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: 1/28 Camel questions Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1E50@mimhexch.mim.com.au> DB, > I am somehow blazing thru scratching the cockpit of this > 1/28 Sopwith > Camel, and have a question about the seatbelts - I assume > simply lap belts. > Are they similar to a Sutton type harness, or are they > different? It may vary, but the ones I've seen are bloody great wide waist only belts (about 8" wide) > what color would interior structural metal fittings like > these gusset plates > on the frame be? I am assuming a battleship grey or similar, but does > anyone have the full dope on it? Japanned - that is, black, though that may vary ...or I may be right off base from relying on memory again Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:17:27 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: ebay photo of Albatros D.V Message-ID: <005b01bf931e$a9c19000$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dave A colour profile of this airplane is in the #2 issue of Wing Masters magazine, from France, in an article written by ex-list member (are you still lurking after that dark season of french-bashing on the list?) Yves Bouffetaut "The German air service in WW1". I guess that he has a WW1 website around too, but it's in french. besides, IIRC, a picture of this airplane is in the now reissued "Albatros fighters in action" from Squadron. However, I've never seen these Ebay pictures before. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Watts To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 1:11 AM Subject: ebay photo of Albatros D.V > Hi all, > > Check out these two never published? original, (printed in 1918), prints > of a Albatros D.V with skull and cross bones on the sides. Any one > identify this one? > > Best, > Dave Watts > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:26:25 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: Re:Photoetching Message-ID: <03c901bf9320$f0d09020$da2ad7d2@charles> > Isn't there a way to shrink your pattern down with a copier or something? > It would be nice to make the pattern 2X then reduce it with the copier. Can > Kinko's print the pattern directly on the brass for you? I drew up what I wanted in 4X size, front and back, then had a technical photo shop make quarter size negatives which I then used in photo resist etching. Having now read the list comments this was not the way to start: working directly onto the board sounds much better. Anyway, whilst the results were acceptable, the effort and cost put me off repeating the process. David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:32:51 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: Fast Metal to Metal Adhesive Message-ID: <03ca01bf9320$f22f83e0$da2ad7d2@charles> > White glue..... holds good enough to where you can hit > with the CA... use it all the time.. > > P. Crow And if you put a spot of white glue on each piece, wait for a minute, then put the two pieces together it will grip instantly. David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:04:59 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: ebay photo of Albatros D.V Message-ID: <200003211107.DAA10604@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:15:12 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > A photo of it with roundels is in WINGS Dec'74, page 47 Any speculation about color? To me I'm thinking light blue, but... Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:18:39 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: ebay photo of Albatros D.V Message-ID: <004901bf9327$35623760$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> As for the french profile illustration it was clear doped fuselage, b&w skull and bones and green cowl panels, but who knows... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 8:12 AM Subject: Re: ebay photo of Albatros D.V > On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:15:12 -0500 (EST), Bob Pearson wrote: > > > A photo of it with roundels is in WINGS Dec'74, page 47 > > Any speculation about color? To me I'm thinking light blue, but... > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:24:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Sigmans Albatros D.Va (the star-spangled one) Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1E52@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Hi all, Zooming along on the Eduard kit and I've come up with a question. Eduard depicts the aircraft with transitional balkenkreuze - fat crosses, enclosed ends, broad whie surrounds. The photos I've seen of this machine (in the original D.V datafile ) don't show the top or bottom of the wings, so I'm uncertain how they determined what sort of crosses. Are there any other known pictures of this machine? Any which show either wing top or bottom? And if they do exist, where can I get to see them? Also, RLR depicts the machine with blue edge tape on the tailplane. I had more or less decided from the available pics that the upper surfaces of the lower wing *might* have blue tapes, but the lower surface of the upper might have either for all I can tell. Another pic showing the wings would be highly usefull! Anyone? Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:02:17 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Sigmans Albatros D.Va (the star-spangled one) Message-ID: <003801bf9335$e5910720$03000004@darcy> Shane I don't have a picture of Sigman's wings however I do have a picture of Kallmunzer's presumably at the same time. It does show the transitional balkenkreuze - fat crosses. It shows lighter rib tapes as well. Let me know off list if you'd like a scan? Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 21 March, 2000 5:27 AM Subject: Sigmans Albatros D.Va (the star-spangled one) > Hi all, > > Zooming along on the Eduard kit and I've come up with a question. > > Eduard depicts the aircraft with transitional balkenkreuze - fat crosses, > enclosed ends, broad whie surrounds. > > The photos I've seen of this machine (in the original D.V datafile ) don't > show the top or bottom of the wings, so I'm uncertain how they determined > what sort of crosses. > > Are there any other known pictures of this machine? Any which show either > wing top or bottom? And if they do exist, where can I get to see them? > > Also, RLR depicts the machine with blue edge tape on the tailplane. I had > more or less decided from the available pics that the upper surfaces of the > lower wing *might* have blue tapes, but the lower surface of the upper might > have either for all I can tell. Another pic showing the wings would be > highly usefull! > > Anyone? > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. > E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:26:10 -0600 From: "Charles and Linda Duckworth" To: Subject: Re: 1/28 Camel questions Message-ID: <004201bf9339$fcea5da0$692c57d8@cnlduckwor> David, when you're finished can you list the changes you made to the kit, I know at least 20 of us would like to tackle the same project. Charlie > I am somehow blazing thru scratching the cockpit of this 1/28 Sopwith >Camel, and have a question about the seatbelts - I assume simply lap belts. >Are they similar to a Sutton type harness, or are they different? Also, >what color would interior structural metal fittings like these gusset plates >on the frame be? I am assuming a battleship grey or similar, but does >anyone have the full dope on it? The framing and main fuel tank are done, >and I should get thru the auxiliary tank and joystick mounting tonight. >Maybe even start the seat too. > > >DB > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 08:50:26 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: DML Fokker DrI Message-ID: Charlie asks: "... so where does one find where all the above data on the cockpit? I have the WS Special is there other sources around I should be using as well?" Yeah., there are a couple of reasonable pictures in WWI Aero, IIRC. I'll dig up the issues tonight and let you know where to look... Lance ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2207 **********************