WWI Digest 2193 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) by "Jim Landon" 2) Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by "Lance Krieg" 3) Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by "Matthew Bittner" 4) Re: Leather coaming question by Matthew Zivich 5) Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by "Lance Krieg" 6) Re: Leather coaming question by "Lance Krieg" 7) 120mm figures list by "dfernet0" 8) Re: New member by Otisgood@aol.com 9) Re: New member by "Matthew Bittner" 10) Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by smperry@mindspring.com 11) Fokker Dr.I site by "Matthew Bittner" 12) RE: Fokker Dr.I site by "dfernet0" 13) Re: Fokker Dr.I site by "Peter Leonard" 14) Re: Fokker Dr.I site by Dave Watts 15) Re: Starry, starry Spad: Need decals by Otisgood@aol.com 16) Re: Pegasus decals by Otisgood@aol.com 17) Merlin kits, was Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by "Peter Leonard" 18) RE: Merlin kits, was Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by "dfernet0" 19) Re: RE: Merlin kits, was Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by "Lance Krieg" 20) Re: New member by Allan Wright 21) Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by a1b73869@telus.net 22) Re: New member by "Lance Krieg" 23) Re: New member by Otisgood@aol.com 24) Re: New member by Otisgood@aol.com 25) ICM W.W.I New kits by BStett3770@aol.com 26) The Lozenge Conundrum by "Lance Krieg" 27) RE: The Lozenge Conundrum by Shane Weier 28) LAPCO 1/48 Fokker Eindekker by Shane Weier 29) Re: LAPCO 1/48 Fokker Eindekker by "Lance Krieg" 30) Re: LAPCO 1/48 Fokker Eindekker by "Peter Leonard" 31) RE: The Lozenge Conundrum by Otisgood@aol.com 32) Re: Merlin kits, was Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by "K. Hagerup" 33) RE: LAPCO 1/48 Fokker Eindekker by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 07:45:00 PST From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Cc: ammi-alme@unicalce.it, lfendy@firstsaga.com, Mark_W_Miller@Raytheon.com Message-ID: <20000314154501.44537.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi all, Stand by for a "blind" message lobbed onto the wwi list from someone who is not aware of what you guys might be talking about. Please excuse the out-of-context interruption. Allan has put up 5 new photos of my Thomas Morse S4C at http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Landon/index.html. The Tommy was on display this past weekend at the annual Rocky Mountain Air Fair, held at the same museum where "Tommy" now "lives" here in Denver. The organizer of the Air Fair wanted the Tommy in the fair, so we carried it from it's normal location in the museum to a table set up for the fair. I enjoyed visiting all the other booths and talking to a lot of super people, and got a swelled head from all the compliments on the Tommy model. A photographer from one of the newspapers even took pictures of me and the model and wrote down the info, but I don't know if it will actually be in the paper - wasn't in yesterday. The museum has now asked me to build three more large scale models for them. So much for trying my hand at small scale plastic models, although I still want to. When I went to see how my own new photos look, I discovered all the other new photos at http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/news.html. Len, your Pfalz D.IIIa is realy neat, nice job! I have no clue what a Whippet is but it looks like you're doing a real neat job on it. Mark, your Albatros C3 is incredible. I love the plywood fuselage. Is that a "brake" on the undercarriage? Looks like it. Clever. Your D7 doesn't look like " Just another OTB D7" as you put it - looks beautiful to me. I like the Nie 17 too. And I've previously told you how wonderful I think the SE5a renderings are. Alberto, your Nie triplane outdoor shots have set a new higher standard again. How in the world did you get those photos to look so life-like? I thought I was getting good at it until I saw your newest ones. I hate to exclude anyone, you guys are all so good at what you do. I love to peek at http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/news.html once in a while and see what new photos are up. As usual, I can't begin to keep up with the list, so email me at TheGreatLandoni@Hotmail.com Bye for now, Jim Landon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:54:34 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: Peter informs that Nexus Publishing: "...have agreed with Harry Woodman to go ahead with a new and revised edition of his book." and wants OT kits tossed his way. He certainly deserves reward for his role in this reprinting, and if our thanks are not enough, I'm prepared to send along the Merit Albatros D.II and Salmson 2A2. Thanks again, Peter, I'm looking forward to this book. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:59:09 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: <200003141559.JAA01155@mail2.neonramp.com> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:58:37 -0500 (EST), Lance Krieg wrote: > He certainly deserves reward for his role in this reprinting, and if our thanks are not enough, I'm prepared to send along the Merit Albatros D.II and Salmson 2A2. Do you mean the Merlin? Oh, you're so nasty! ;-) For those who don't know, I have heard it's easier building - correctly - the Glencoe Oeffag D.III's than it is these two. Lance, you're terrible...must be what happens to one from Des Moines. Matt Bittner http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:59:17 -0500 From: Matthew Zivich To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Leather coaming question Message-ID: <38CE61D5.39CBB04A@svsu.edu> Though I haven't read all of the replies to this question, has anyone suggested acceptable colors for the coaming? (I was somewhat surprised at the flesh like color of the the NASM Alb. D-Va. leather coaming.) Matthew Z. Pedro e Francisca wrote: > Matthew Bittner wrote: > > > How do people replicate the padded leather "coaming" around the > > cockpit? I'm building a model that has no represenation of this at all > > and was wondering. I tried round sprue, but since the model is resin > > I'm having a dickens of a time. > > > > Matt Bittner > > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > > Matt, > > I use the insulation from thin telephone wire, you know the type that comes > in multi-wire cables each in a different colour? > > a) I slit open the wire with a blade (I hold one end of the wire in a small > table vise and the other on one hand and then run the blade at a very > shallow angle to the surface of the wire to rip off a strip of about 1/4 of > the insulation) > > in section: > > (_) > > b) I remove the wire > > c) I gently force the insulation all around the cockpit opening, holding it > in place with CA, > > That's it. Works good for me. > > HTH > Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:09:35 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: " Merit Albatros D.II and Salmson 2A2. Do you mean the Merlin? Oh, you're so nasty!" Whoops! What was I thinking? Merlin, yes. "Lance, you're terrible...must be what happens to one from Des Moines." Yes, it's true. We try to discourage outsiders. Since I blew the Merlin/Merit prize, I'll throw in a Glencoe Albatros, but I'm keeping the decal sheet. Sorry, Lance Matt Bittner http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:15:11 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Leather coaming question Message-ID: Matthew writes about: "...acceptable colors for the coaming?" I've seen these in a lot of shades, though I believe they tend to be pretty dark. I recall that early Sopwith products sometimes used white cotton on Pup and triplane "gun-windshields". Now where did I learn that? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:57:36 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: 120mm figures list Message-ID: <004b01bf8dd6$661f2c60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Federico Kereki, an excellent WW1 figure modeler from Uruguay, sent me a comprehensive list of 120 mm OT figures. Maybe some of you are interested on this and many of the figures can be seen on the net, so I'll send it along with this post. May your wallet be strong... D. Fabricante Código Descripción Moneda Precio Website FIRING LINE ANZAC Infantryman, Gallipoli Campaign, 1915 £ 22,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_anzac1915.htm FIRING LINE British Infantryman [Sitting Pose - 1915-1917] £ 16,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_infantry_sit.htm FIRING LINE British Infantryman [Sitting Pose, with greatcoat - 1915-1917] £ 16,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_infantry_sit_gc.htm FIRING LINE British Infantryman [Standing Pose - 1915-1917] £ 16,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_infantry_stand.htm FIRING LINE British Lewis Gunner [C.1916-18] £ 19,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_infantry_lewis.htm FIRING LINE British Officer [Standing Pose, with cane] £ 16,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_britishofficer.htm FIRING LINE Dear Prudence,..., A letter From The Front £ 32,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_dearprudence.htm FIRING LINE Goodbye Blue Sky Vignette £ 39,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_goodbyebluesky.htm FIRING LINE Home for Christmas two-figure WW1 Vignette £ 44,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_christmas.htm FIRING LINE Private, Stretcher Bearer, 2Bn. Seaforth Highlanders, 1916 £ 19,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_stretcherbearer2ndSea.htm FIRING LINE Remembrance Vignette £ 39,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_remembrance.htm FIRING LINE Vickers Machine Gun Crew, with Vickers Machine Gun £ 59,90 http://www.djparkins.clara.net/fline/fl120_vickersmachinecrew.htm FORT ROYAL 12 WWI German Infantry Assault http://www.davidsangster.ndirect.co.uk/Frr/Frr12.html FORT ROYAL 14 WWI British LMG 1918 http://www.davidsangster.ndirect.co.uk/Frr/Frr14.html FORT ROYAL 20 WWI French Infantryman 1916 http://www.davidsangster.ndirect.co.uk/Frr/Frr20.html IMPERIAL GALLERY IG/A/21 British Sailor £ 25,00 http://www.hardwick85.freeserve.co.uk/Photos1.htm JAGUAR 61612 Close Call U$S 35,00 http://www.jaguarmodels.com/ppics/61612.jpg JAGUAR 61616 Over the Top U$S 45,00 http://www.jaguarmodels.com/ppics/ja61616.jpg JON SMITH MODELLBAU JS08ST German Stormtrooper 1918 £ 25,00 http://www.davidsangster.ndirect.co.uk/Js/jonpic.html JON SMITH MODELLBAU JS09DLI Officer Durham Light Infantry 1915 £ 25,00 http://www.davidsangster.ndirect.co.uk/Js/jonpic.html JON SMITH MODELLBAU JS10TF Private 4th Battalion Tank Corps 1918 £ 25,00 http://www.davidsangster.ndirect.co.uk/Js/jonpic.html JON SMITH MODELLBAU JS11MGS German LMG Gnr Western Front 1917 £ 25,00 KIRIN 21509 WWI Trench Raider U$S 36,00 KIRIN 21525 Doughboy Trench Raider, St. Mihiel U$S 36,00 http://www.michtoy.com/kirin4.html KIRIN 21529 1914 Lt. 11th Dragoon Regt. U$S 40,00 KIRIN 21541 T.E. Lawrence of Arabia U$S 40,00 http://www.michtoy.com/kirin2.html MASTERS IN MINIATURE TMW002C ANZAC at Gallipoli 50,00 http://www.bu.aust.com/milwkshop/models.htm MODEL CELLAR 12001 French Infantry Verdun 1916 U$S 34,00 http://www.modelcellar.com/MC12001.htm MODEL CELLAR 12002 German Infantry Summer 1915 U$S 34,00 http://www.modelcellar.com/MC12002.htm MODEL CELLAR 12003 Manfred Von Richthofen U$S 28,50 http://www.modelcellar.com/MC12003.htm MODEL CELLAR 12004 British Infantry Somme 1916 U$S 34,00 http://www.modelcellar.com/MC12004.htm MODEL CELLAR 12005 Eddie Rickenbacker U$S 28,50 http://www.modelcellar.com/MC12005.htm MODEL CELLAR 12006 Lt.Col. Patton Meuse 1918 U$S 28,50 http://www.modelcellar.com/MC12006.htm MODEL CELLAR 12007 Raoul Lufbery 1917 U$S 31,50 http://www.modelcellar.com/MC12007.htm MODEL CELLAR 12008 Lt.Col. Billy Bishop 1917 U$S 28,50 http://www.modelcellar.com/MC12008.htm MODEL CELLAR 12009 US Marine & German Prisoner 1918 U$S 75,00 http://www.modelcellar.com/MC12009.htm TESTORS 4971 French Assault Trooper U$S 25,00 http://phoenix-model.com/images/Testors/TES4971.jpg UNITED EMPIRE MINIATURES RG01 Teufelhund - US Marine WWI U$S 39,00 http://www.mindspring.com/~unitedempire/newpage11.htm VERLINDEN 697 The Kaiser U$S 26,00 VERLINDEN 717 French Infantry 1914 U$S 28,00 VERLINDEN 763 US Army BAR Gunner U$S 26,00 http://www.verlinden-productions.com/vp_htm_0401_0800/vp0763.htm VERLINDEN 779 German Trench Body Armour U$S 32,00 VERLINDEN 795 German Stosstrupp U$S 28,00 VERLINDEN 891 German Trench Raider U$S 32,00 http://www.verlinden-productions.com/vp_htm_0801_1200/vp0891.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:11:08 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: <6.34637aa.25ffccac@aol.com> Sorry, I forgot the introductions. My Name is Otis Goodin. I'm 44, and live in Franklin, Tennessee (a suburb of Nashville). I work as a trust administrator for Bank of America. Been building models since I was a kid. My first kit was the Aurora Alb DIII. I've put the hobby aside for years at a time, but always picked it up again. I've been building constantly for the last five years. I think I will stick with it this time. I'm currently working on the Eduard Alb DIII. I was applying the Pegasus/Blue Max five color lozenge and I had the strangest/worst decal experience I've ever had. The decals would "wrinkle up" when I applied the Solvaset, but they would never fully lay back down, so I ended up with these wrinkly decals that never fully responded no matter what I did. I finally had to scrub them off and start over. I afraid to try these again until I hear from someone who may have had the same problem. Has anyone on the list ever had this experience? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:16:30 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: <200003141716.LAA02830@mail2.neonramp.com> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:15:59 -0500 (EST), Otisgood@aol.com wrote: > Sorry, I forgot the introductions. My Name is Otis Goodin. I'm 44, and live in Franklin, Tennessee (a suburb of Nashville). I work as a trust administrator for Bank of America. Been building models since I was a kid. My first kit was the Aurora Alb DIII. I've put the hobby aside for years at a time, but always picked it up again. I've been building constantly for the last five years. I think I will stick with it this time. Nice to meet you! :-) > I'm currently working on the Eduard Alb DIII. I was applying the Pegasus/Blue Max five color lozenge and I had the strangest/worst decal experience I've ever had. The decals would "wrinkle up" when I applied the Solvaset, but they would never fully lay back down, so I ended up with these wrinkly decals that never fully responded no matter what I did. I finally had to scrub them off and start over. I afraid to try these again until I hear from someone who may have had the same problem. Has anyone on the list ever had this experience? Thanks. Although I haven't worked with Pegasus decals yet, their instruction sheets state *not* to use *any* decal solvent. I would take them on their word on that one. Matt Bittner http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:47:00 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: <002b01bf8ddd$4dce0760$eb0956d1@default> We're not worthy! :-) Any particular kits you looking for? sp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Leonard" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 8:18 AM Subject: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling > Listees, the following from Nexus Publications regarding the Gospel > according to Harry Woodman (whom The Allmighty preserve) > > > Dear Peter, > > We have agreed with Harry Woodman to go ahead with a new and revised > edition of his book. This will not be available until early in 2001. > > Bill Burkinshaw > > > no please, no applause, just throw surplus OT kits ;) > > Peter L > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:50:43 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Fokker Dr.I site Message-ID: <200003141751.LAA03516@mail2.neonramp.com> I remember there being a Fokker Dr.I site, but can't find the URL. Anybody have it? Matt Bittner http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:58:18 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Fokker Dr.I site Message-ID: <007e01bf8dde$e10dd720$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> This one? http://www.wolfpackinc.com/fokker1.htm HTH D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 2:55 PM Subject: Fokker Dr.I site > I remember there being a Fokker Dr.I site, but can't find the URL. > Anybody have it? > > > Matt Bittner > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:05:00 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker Dr.I site Message-ID: <20000314180500.99135.qmail@hotmail.com> Matt, there are two. "Fokker Dr1 Information" at http://fokkerdr1.freehosting.net/ and "the Fokker Factory" at http://www.wolfpackinc.com/fokker1.htm IMO the second is the better site, but both are listed along with more and similar links at http;//www.escadrille.mcmail.com/links-frame.html hyh Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:04:51 -0500 From: Dave Watts To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Fokker Dr.I site Message-ID: <200003141806.NAA20873@ind.cioe.com>
I remember there being a Fokker Dr.I site, but can't find the URL. Anybody have it?

  You may be thinking of this one by my buddies Mark Parnel and Langdon Badger.

http://www.wolfpackinc.com/fokker1.htm

Best,
Dave Watts
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:15:08 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Starry, starry Spad: Need decals Message-ID: <6c.21fdcb8.25ffdbac@aol.com> I have a set you can have. Tell me where to send them. Otis Goodin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:17:50 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Pegasus decals Message-ID: <5f.28b1cb7.25ffdc4e@aol.com> The instructions on these didn't mention it one way or the other, but based on my experience I suspect I shouldn't use solvent again. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:33:06 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Merlin kits, was Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: <20000314183306.32543.qmail@hotmail.com> Lance offers the Merlin Salmson 2A2 as a reward Lance, your offer is most generous, but I could not possibly deprive you of what is reputed to be the worst OT plastic kit ever made. A long time friend of mine made a very nice door stop from that kit and still uses the upper wing as a tongue scraper. I could let you have his e-mail if you wish cheers Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:37:27 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Merlin kits, was Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: <00ee01bf8de4$5910db00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Wow! Seems like this kit was seriously awful. Worst kit I ever had was some ancient airfixes, but they'll always can be redeemed... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Leonard To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 3:37 PM Subject: Merlin kits, was Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling > Lance offers the Merlin Salmson 2A2 as a reward > > > Lance, your offer is most generous, but I could not possibly deprive you of > what is reputed to be the worst OT plastic kit ever made. A long time friend > of mine made a very nice door stop from that kit and still uses the upper > wing as a tongue scraper. I could let you have his e-mail if you wish > > cheers > > Peter L > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:46:58 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: RE: Merlin kits, was Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: " the Merlin Salmson 2A2" has parts thicker than a 1:1 Dreadnought, and small blobs of plastic for detail components like guns... and wheels,,, and rudder. Even in the deepest drought of OT kits, one is inclined to shake one's head, close the box, and tackle another project. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:59:57 -0500 (EST) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: <200003141859.NAA02003@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Sorry, I forgot the introductions. My Name is Otis Goodin. I'm 44, and live in Franklin, Tennessee (a suburb of Nashville). I work as a trust administrator for Bank of America. Been building models since I was a kid. My first kit was the Aurora Alb DIII. I've put the hobby aside for years at a time, but always picked it up again. I've been building constantly for the last five years. I think I will stick with it this time. Hey Bank of America holds my mortgage - think you can get me a discount on my rate :-) Just kidding, welcome to the list Otis! -Allan Wright - list administrator =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | "Without love, life's just a long fight" - SSJ University of New Hampshire+--------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:19:53 PST From: a1b73869@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: <38ce90d9.5c17.0@telus.net> Tsk Tsk, In the spirit of St Harry, I would have thought some sheets of 10 though plastic card would have been more appropriate as recompense to Peter! Ray. ( > > Do you mean the Merlin? Oh, you're so nasty! ;-) > >For those who don't know, I have heard it's easier building - correctly >- the Glencoe Oeffag D.III's than it is these two. > >Lance, you're terrible...must be what happens to one from Des Moines. > > >Matt Bittner >http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm >http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > > > ================================================================= Internet service provided by telus.net http://www.telus.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:36:56 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: Welcome, Otis... has Nashville gotten so big it reached Franklin? I've enjoyed your battlefield a time or two... You have already know that Pegasus decals don't respond well to Solvaset, but they are more amenable to the gentler Microsol. Americal/Gryphon's fine lozenge decals are more forgiving of chemical abuse; I suppose you are aware of them as an alternative source? Good luck, Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:57:17 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: <29.26bdd5e.260001ad@aol.com> They hold my mortgage too. I did get a 1/4 point discount on mine, but that's for employees only. Still doesn't free up much cash for models! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:03:01 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New member Message-ID: I've used Americals lozenge before and they are good. I think the colors of the Pegasus upper lozenge are a little more accurate. They have more blue in them, but even so, it's still not the correct blue, at least judging by the NASM Albatros DV book. Looks more like "lapis" but I think it should be closer to cobalt. I think the Aeromaster 5 color upper is terribly inaccurate although I like their lower lozenge. The upper green is too light and the blue is too dark and gray. What do you think? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:29:17 EST From: BStett3770@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: ICM W.W.I New kits Message-ID: Hi Guys ICM 1/72 Fokker EIV & Pfalz EIV both due in tomorrow, I'll give you all my thoughts on them tomorrow. Price is right $7.25 each Keep modeling Barry Rosemont hobby www.swiftsite.com/rosemonthobby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:49:19 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: The Lozenge Conundrum Message-ID: Otis boldly opines: "Americals lozenge ... are good... Pegasus upper lozenge are a little more accurate... Aeromaster 5 color upper is terribly inaccurate although I like their lower lozenge. " Actually, given the vagaries of color printing and dyeing, and having seen some various bits and pieces of original fabric, I can live with all three of these, and Copper State's, too. To my (rather jaundiced) eye, there isn't much to pick from between 5 color sheets, though I would hardly consider myself an authority. I tend to prefer Americal because I KNOW Glen Merrill has sweated the details and is one of the aknowledged experts on the subject. But that's not to say that the others, particularly Pegasus, haven't done their homework, too. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 08:06:45 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: The Lozenge Conundrum Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1E11@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Lance comments: > I tend to prefer Americal because I KNOW Glen Merrill has > sweated the details and is one of the aknowledged experts on > the subject. But that's not to say that the others, > particularly Pegasus, haven't done their homework, too. When Silberstreif were researching to produce the replica fabric used to restore the four Halberstadt Cl.IV they used Dr Merrill as an authority to check the validity of their results. I'd imagine that the same research used to set the colour of the A/G loz helped him form his opinion of Silberstreifs replica material. Pegasus claim to have used the Silberstreif fabric as a basis for their loz decal. So I'd be surprised if there wasn't a fairly close correlation between the two sets of decals Shane (FWIW I use A/G or in a pinch Aeromaster 5 colour, and A/G 4 colour, for the same reason as Lance. I don't use Pegasus because it costs me too much, though the colours are okay by me) ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 08:33:34 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: LAPCO 1/48 Fokker Eindekker Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1E12@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Hi all, I saw an announcement of this on rec.models.scale yesterday and followed it up LAPCO == Lost Aurora Plastics Co The Eindekker is the old and unlovely Aurora model. Text on their temporary web site says: WW1 Fokker Eindekker 1/48 scale Release date March 23 Shipping March 30 Price $9.99 plus tax and shipping Kit # A-3950 Reissue of classic and also an updated kit Updated? Mmmm. ....and was it really 1/48. My memory says it's sorta oversized. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:44:06 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: LAPCO 1/48 Fokker Eindekker Message-ID: Shane, recalling the Aurora Eindecker: "..and was it really 1/48? My memory says it's sorta oversized." More like 1/40, IIRC. Now the DH 4, I wouldn't mind seeing again! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:51:23 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: LAPCO 1/48 Fokker Eindekker Message-ID: <20000314225123.65900.qmail@hotmail.com> Shane"...and was it really 1/48. My memory says it's sorta oversized." Your memory is correct, about 1/44 if I recall. I suppose if you're desperate for an eindekker in something like 1/48, and none of the alternatives are available to you, then it's a start. Not sure what else might be a possibility from the parts in the box as I've never checked it out, but at this price I suppose I might. What's the URL by the way? Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:53:48 EST From: Otisgood@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: The Lozenge Conundrum Message-ID: The AG and Pegasus decals are very similar in color. I'm basing my observations about accuracy on the NASM Albatros DVa book which indicated that a great deal of research was done to determine the accurate colors for the five color lozenge used on that restoration. The Pegasus decals come closer, IMHO, to matching that particular reference than the AG decals I have used in the past, although, there is NOT A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE, and I will happily use either one of them. In fact, I have ordered some more AG decals simply because of price and the bad experience I had with the Pegasus lozenge. To me, the Aeromaster 5 color upper emphasizes the green too much, although I think the lower looks very good. However, the lower lozenge that I have found that matches the NASM book best is, surprisingly, by Super Scale. I guess we'll never know who's "right", but I tend to like the NASM book as an objective reference simply because of the time, money and effort that went into the res! toration. ALso, there are, of course, scale differences that alter the colors somewhat. I think that was probably what Aeromaster was after; I just think they over(or under) did it. One other point about lozenge that I have never seen discussed anywhere is a curious fact about its application I noticed in the NASM book. The photos clearly show that the lozenge was applied from leading edge to trailing edge (or vice versa); however, they also indicate that the rolls were applied in opposite directions each time, sort of, north, south (or east, west depending on which way the plane was facing). All the references that I have read with any decals referring to the leading/trailing application indicate that the strips were laid side by side in the same direction. That is certainly not the case with the NASM plane. Anybody else see this? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:53:27 -0600 From: "K. Hagerup" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Merlin kits, was Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: <38CEC2E7.66F0@prodigy.net> Peter Leonard wrote: > > Lance offers the Merlin Salmson 2A2 as a reward > > Lance, your offer is most generous, but I could not possibly deprive you of > what is reputed to be the worst OT plastic kit ever made. A long time friend > of mine made a very nice door stop from that kit and still uses the upper > wing as a tongue scraper. I could let you have his e-mail if you wish I like this kit! One of the first WWI kits I built after I got back into WWI. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:04:51 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: LAPCO 1/48 Fokker Eindekker Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1E13@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Lance, > "..and was it really 1/48? My memory says it's sorta oversized." > > More like 1/40, IIRC. Now the DH 4, I wouldn't mind seeing again! > That's more or less what I said on r.m.s - that there are actually usefull moulds among the old Auroras, but this one isn't (at least to me) one of them Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2193 **********************