WWI Digest 2158 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Alberto's email by "Alberto Casirati" 2) [Fwd: news] by Pedro e Francisca 3) Re: drying box wasRe: Future query No.2 by "Peter Leonard" 4) Re: drying box wasRe: Future query No.2 by "Peter Leonard" 5) Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by "Peter Leonard" 6) RE: 1/72nd WW1 train by "dfernet0" 7) Re: Alberto's Nie.17 in FSM by "Matthew Bittner" 8) RE: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling by "dfernet0" 9) book hunting by "dfernet0" 10) RE: remember that URL? by "dfernet0" 11) RE: another Ilya by "dfernet0" 12) Re: S.E. 5 kit by Libra Models in 1/72 by "Alberto Casirati" 13) Aviatik D.I - pictures by Witold Kozakiewicz 14) 'Toil & trouble', was: Re: A Hex by skarver@banet.net 15) Re: Ed.'s Falsie Pfalz MGs by skarver@banet.net 16) Re: A Hex on Your Lozenge! Unique A-H Camo? by Scottfking@aol.com 17) Now that you mentiion it, was: Re: A Hex by skarver@banet.net 18) Re: A Hex on Your Lozenge! Unique A-H Camo? by "Peter Leonard" 19) Re: Alberto's Nie.17 in FSM by Ray Boorman 20) Re: French colours by "Allan Wright" 21) Re: Need Inter-War ID Help Off-List by Eli Geher 22) Re: drying box wasRe: Future query No.2 by "Lance Krieg" 23) Re: Need Inter-War ID Help Off-List by Eli Geher 24) Re: Aviatik D.I - pictures by "Peter Leonard" 25) Alps-less decals? by smperry@mindspring.com 26) Re: Alps-less decals? by Albatrosdv@aol.com 27) Re: MAN o' man! by "Mike Fanklin" 28) Re: "All The King's Men" by "Andy Kemp" 29) RE: A Hex on Your Lozenge! Unique A-H Camo? by Shane Weier 30) 'All the King's Men' and a battlefield tour of Verdun by "Bob Pearson" 31) 1/48 Ace Decals by "Ken Acosta" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:44:31 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: Alberto's email Message-ID: <009201bf7dd1$d2ef53c0$320106c0@acasirat> Dear Matt, I sent a message to the list with my new e-mail address a couple of weeks ago, but maybe it did not reach the server properly. My new address is mailto:ammi-alme@unicalce.it Allan will surely change the old address in my page. Thanks for your kind words about my Ni.17. I still have to get a copy of that issue of FSM, but it is very difficult to obtain one in Italy. All the best, Alberto. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 6:27 AM Subject: Alberto's email > Does anybody have Alberto's email address? I think it just > changed recently, and I don't seem to have the current one. TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:08:01 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: WW1 modeling list Subject: [Fwd: news] Message-ID: <38B39560.96A2201@mail.telepac.pt> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A9AA4A90471485CA0CF4B393 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit More news on Toko, from Earl, Gang Pedro --------------A9AA4A90471485CA0CF4B393 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from kitty.netconnect.com.au ([203.7.198.1]) by fep03-svc.mail.telepac.pt (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000223022938.NPQW27212.fep03-svc.mail.telepac.pt@kitty.netconnect.com.au> for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 02:29:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 11068 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2000 02:29:20 -0000 Received: from bal-as1-p42.netconnect.net.au (HELO LOCALNAME) (203.87.44.42) by mail.netconnect.com.au with SMTP; 23 Feb 2000 02:29:20 -0000 Message-ID: <38B4509B.29EC@netconnect.com.au> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:26:51 -0800 From: "Earl. Martell." Reply-To: nkrmodel@netconnect.com.au Organization: N.K.R. MODELS X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nkrmodel@netconnect.com.au Subject: news Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 A final (?) follow up on the Toko saga...the new company, formed from the 'ashes' is to be called 'Roden' (lucky they didn't put a 'T' at the end or we might smell a rat). All the 'future' Toko releases should come from Roden...at some stage.... A few 'back in stock' items from Eastern Express now: 1/72 (ex-Frog) Hotspur assult glider @$7 1/72 BI-1 Soviet rocket fighter @$7 1/72 M-113 @$8 More ex-Frog due from Eastern Express soon. --------------A9AA4A90471485CA0CF4B393-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:19:54 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: drying box wasRe: Future query No.2 Message-ID: <20000223081954.82113.qmail@hotmail.com> DB.."Apartment hunting again -Yippee." I have a nice three bedroom place for rent. Very reasonable and only eight hours flying time from Orlando, after that you're on your own. Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:52:43 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: drying box wasRe: Future query No.2 Message-ID: <20000223085243.14290.qmail@hotmail.com> You could try http://www.paper-paper.com/water-slip-decals.html Don't know if it prints white, but if not printing just the PC10 background and sticking it on a white base coat might work. I have done serial numbers on RFC types using rub down transfers as a mask. Rub them on to the base coat, spray, then pick them off with a piece of tape. It might be a bit labour intensive for some of the more complex scripts, and it's still dependant on the availability of the correct size and style of lettering. Every UK model magazine I read in the seventies suggested that there was a custom decal shop on every street corner in the United States. I gather this is not the case. Peter L ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bob Pearson" Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: drying box wasRe: Future query No.2 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 03:08:42 -0500 (EST) > Now I have got that off my chest can anyone suggest a way to make 1/72 > decals for one of the presentation DH5's. I am planning to build one and > need some suggestions. The one I have selected will be the "NSW Ladies > Battle Plane" so there a lot of very small letters. I have thought of > getting white railway lettering and making a decal on clear decal film, > does anyone have any other options?? Make friends with an Alps owner Bob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:10:00 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: <20000223101000.85462.qmail@hotmail.com> The latest from Bill Burkinshaw at Nexus publications is that the re-print of Harry (Alah preserve His name)Woodman's seminal work is go for launch. No date is mentioned, but who says the mailing list is just a talking shop? cheers 'n' beers I think Peter Leonard IPMS UK Lancashire & Cheshire Branch http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:28:46 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: 1/72nd WW1 train Message-ID: <005001bf7de8$c432a000$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt I'm the happy owner of two reviresco white metal kits (a car and a german truck). They are quite crude, even tough there's plenty of room for improvement. Keep in mind that these kits are made for wargaming and they must stand much more handling than a regular "static scale model". D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:05 PM Subject: 1/72nd WW1 train > I was browsing Rivieresco's (spelling is bad, probably) site > today, and noticed they have a white metal (I think) WW1 British > train in 1/72nd. US$128 gets you the whole train - engine and > three or four cars. Visit their site for more info. > > Me, I'm still holding out for the operational Brick Price one... > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:45:24 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Alberto's Nie.17 in FSM Message-ID: <200002231048.CAA14433@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:30:45 -0500 (EST), Ray Boorman wrote: > Matt, I thought you enjoyed Nieuports > perhaps its time to switch to something different lets see 1/28 PC10 Oooh > Revel Sopwith Camel > (Hurriedly running for cover from the flames to come) > > At 07:07 PM 2/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > >Well done, Alberto! Now I have to build a Nieuport . I do. I mistyped. I should have said . Ah, the wonders of emitting emotion across email. :-) Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:54:20 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling Message-ID: <00d301bf7dec$56825880$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Wonderful! Just weeks after I got my rare copy of the first edition! That's my timing... (:-) Anyway, I guess that Woodman will revise his book with up-to-date notes and better pictures! If the 25 year old book is STILL excellent, just figure how good this will be! regards D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Leonard To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 7:14 AM Subject: Zen and the Art of Plastic Modelling > The latest from Bill Burkinshaw at Nexus publications is that the re-print > of Harry (Alah preserve His name)Woodman's seminal work is go for launch. No > date is mentioned, but who says the mailing list is just a talking shop? > > cheers 'n' beers I think > > Peter Leonard > IPMS UK > Lancashire & Cheshire Branch > http://www.storks.cwc.net > http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com > PeterL@cwcom.net > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:30:51 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "WW1 modeling Mail List" Subject: book hunting Message-ID: <00e801bf7df1$70894d60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi While some guys in this list hunts big game as apartments, I have to restrain myself to hunt used books. Yesterday, I've found in a dusty local bookstore Blandford's 1973 "Airships and Ballons", very nice little book, the first of this famous series I've seen. And a rare, exotic book, printed in a lousy paper (same as newspapers, it seems) from Romania: "Primul Aviatie" that, coincidentally with someone's post from yesterday night, has a cutout drawing of a Coanda 1910 plane, amogst other rarities (did you knew of a "Vlaicu" parasol airplane?It was the first romanian indigenous design). I've heard that leo Opidycke's book about french aircraft has some really weird types, including this early jet. The Blandford book and the romanian "aviatie" book were at just $5 both. What a good shopping session! And when I arrived home, the postman has left the latest Windsock in my mailbox! D. quite content ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:33:42 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: remember that URL? Message-ID: <013801bf7df1$d6945960$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks tom! A place worth seeing, even if it isn't what I was looking for! Thank anyway. I wonder when I'll can build one of those models! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: THOMAS SOLINSKI To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 8:55 PM Subject: Re: remember that URL? > D, I don't recall the site you're seeking but the folks at > http://www.airdromeaeroplanes.com/ have a lot of little Fokkers(litterally) > enjoy > Tom S > > dfernet0 wrote: > > > hi > > Do you remember that website where they have shown pictures of the Austrian > > guy workshop who were building his own Albatros replica? And remember that > > were some pictures too about a Fokker Dr1 replica whose engine were done by > > BMW and was tested in their factory? I can't remember the URL... somebody > > remembers that or I was just dreaming about that site....? > > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:36:45 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: another Ilya Message-ID: <015c01bf7df2$44050300$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dave Zulis wrote: > Think about it. > > If true, it boggles the mind. > He must have joined a monastery and quit modeling after that. Poor chap. D. PS: BTW "chapita" means crazy in argentine slang. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:57:25 +0100 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: Subject: Re: S.E. 5 kit by Libra Models in 1/72 Message-ID: <002e01bf7df5$277805e0$320106c0@acasirat> Dear Bill, if the kit you referred to is the one in the Scaleplanes series, I cannot recommend it, as it is not to 1/72nd scale. It should represent the early SE5 variant and mouldings are not as good as those of the real Libramodels kits. It seems Scaleplanes often supplied kits not to 1/72nd scale, as their Nieuport IVG is to about 1/90th scale. All the best, Alberto. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 10:53 PM Subject: S.E. 5 kit by Libra Models in 1/72 > Can anyone give a recommendation or description of quality/scale of the 1/72 > scale S.E. 5 by Libramodels as say compared to Ertl/ Revell ? > > Thanks in Advance.......... Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:09:24 +0100 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: WWI Subject: Aviatik D.I - pictures Message-ID: <38B3CDF4.D4D72C37@bgamld.bg.am.lodz.pl> Hi On Polish modelers website you can find photos of Aviatik I scaned and send to some of you. I think that some of them were not published, but I'm not sure. http://www.modelarstwo.kk.opole.pl/galerie/seredynski/berg.html It is 101 series Aviatik from museum in Viena. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:13:55 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, Bob Pearson Subject: 'Toil & trouble', was: Re: A Hex Message-ID: <38B3CF03.6643C20B@banet.net> Wed, 23 Feb 2000 03:08, Bob Pearson wrote: > Any chance of a scan? Yes, there is. Unfortunately, the original is small and poor, and I only have a poor photocopy from the library. I think I will try and go back & do a bit better, clean it up, and then send it off. The interesting thing is that on the fuselage the lozenge runs the 'wrong' way. Shane may very well be right, about the pattern being painted on. There is a repeating very light lozenge element that, I think, does not correspond with the tonalities of any of the German fabrics. Someone more expert than I may be able to do something with the repeat length of this element, which, btw, is about the clearest thing in the (reproduced) photo! It's too bad there isn't a sort of 'alt.binaries' image bulletin board for the list, umh? Regards ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:18:52 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, Shane Weier Subject: Re: Ed.'s Falsie Pfalz MGs Message-ID: <38B3D02B.4BB602BC@banet.net> Shane Weier wrote: > > > to > > > make an accurately sized gun fit into the upper cowling > > > would need to be > > > about 1 thou thick (actually, 1/16 inch sheet metal works out at 1.3 > > > thousandths of an inch) > > > > Well, I don't understand why the canonized Eduard & company > > cannot do this! > > Yeah, it's positively remiss of them. Time for a class action I say ! Class action suit? You're much too civilized. Off with their heads, out with their..., in with their..., down with their pants! Stef ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:27:05 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: A Hex on Your Lozenge! Unique A-H Camo? Message-ID: <90.109d5ed.25e52c19@aol.com> In a message dated 2/22/00 9:58:30 PM EST, skarver@banet.net writes: << A photo reproduced in Cross & Cockade USA Vol 1, no 4, shows an Aviatik Berg apparently decked out in German lozenge on both fuselage & upper main planes. Has this usage been described in any detail elsewhere? TIA & regards, Stef >> Not having seen the photo in question, I wonder if it might be similar to the photo in the JaPo book of the Alb DIII (Oef) 153.112 of Flik 41J, page 37. This is a regular hexagonal pattern of seven colors, the caption says it is a printed linen, and was applied to the fuselage, skid fairing and rudder at least, and it looks like the bottom of the fuselage too. Can't tell about the wings though. There is a color plate of the lozenge but I don't know anything about the source. HTH Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:24:15 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, Bob Pearson Subject: Now that you mentiion it, was: Re: A Hex Message-ID: <38B3D16E.22923F0D@banet.net> Bob Pearson asked: > BTW is this just horizontal oblong hex's or is it actual German camo? If the > former I have profiled three of them .. ... all from L-C's Flik (of course) See my earlier reply to you, but sounds like you are talking about the same thing, and yes the C&C caption puts the machine in L-C's Flik (of course). Where are those profiles, Bob? Send me that CD if necessary! Thanks & regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:43:07 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: A Hex on Your Lozenge! Unique A-H Camo? Message-ID: <20000223134307.16363.qmail@hotmail.com> And the same picture is in the Profile with an accompanying colour illustration, and a caption suggesting that it is hand painted. If that's the one then, whatever it is, it's isn't the much loved German lozenge with which wec are all so familiar. Peter L ----Original Message Follows---- From: Scottfking@aol.com Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: A Hex on Your Lozenge! Unique A-H Camo? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:32:38 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 2/22/00 9:58:30 PM EST, skarver@banet.net writes: << A photo reproduced in Cross & Cockade USA Vol 1, no 4, shows an Aviatik Berg apparently decked out in German lozenge on both fuselage & upper main planes. Has this usage been described in any detail elsewhere? TIA & regards, Stef >> Not having seen the photo in question, I wonder if it might be similar to the photo in the JaPo book of the Alb DIII (Oef) 153.112 of Flik 41J, page 37. This is a regular hexagonal pattern of seven colors, the caption says it is a printed linen, and was applied to the fuselage, skid fairing and rudder at least, and it looks like the bottom of the fuselage too. Can't tell about the wings though. There is a color plate of the lozenge but I don't know anything about the source. HTH Skippy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:45:26 -0800 From: Ray Boorman To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alberto's Nie.17 in FSM Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000223064044.00a8fa70@pop.telus.net> Matt, are you sure you weren't being unconsciously honest. Never mind a few thousand dollars of therapy and many many PC10/PC12 models and you'll be back to your finely balanced ways....... ;) Ray. > At 07:07 PM 2/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Well done, Alberto! Now I have to build a Nieuport . > >I do. I mistyped. I should have said . Ah, the wonders >of emitting emotion across email. :-) > > >Matt Bittner >http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook >http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:11:44 -0500 From: "Allan Wright" To: Pedro e Francisca Cc: wwi Subject: Re: French colours Message-ID: <10002231011.ZM21227@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Pedro, Your spad walk around is on-line. Thanks for the submission and sorry for the delay. -Allan PS: http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/Images/Soares/Spad/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:40:46 -0600 From: Eli Geher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Need Inter-War ID Help Off-List Message-ID: <38B3FF7E.1C5F4EF5@hiwaay.net> This, in fact, is somewhat more in my line than WW1. There's a fair chance I could help on this one. Eli Geher Fernando Lamas wrote: > > If anyone is knowledgeable about inter-war, particularly "jar-head", > excuse me, I mean U.S. Marine Corps aircraft, could you please contact me > off-list? I am trying to help someone ID some aircraft photos and I know > very little about the inter-war period. > > Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:49:41 -0600 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: drying box wasRe: Future query No.2 Message-ID: Ray writes: "... can anyone suggest a way to make 1/72 decals for one of the presentation DH5's. " I have spent many happy hours hunched over a magnifier piecing together "Palmer Cord Aero Tyre" from railroad waterslides, one letter at a time. And you need four of them. Bless Americal for solving THAT problem! A presentation legend seems so benign... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:04:22 -0600 From: Eli Geher To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Need Inter-War ID Help Off-List Message-ID: <38B41316.825408AD@hiwaay.net> This was not supposed to go to the list. Sorry for the error. I've worked with computers since almost before digital computers existed and they still reach out and bite me now and then. Eli Eli Geher wrote: > > This, in fact, is somewhat more in my line than WW1. There's a fair chance I > could help on this one. > > Eli Geher > > very little about the inter-war period. > > > > Fernando Lamas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:28:44 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Aviatik D.I - pictures Message-ID: <20000223172844.34364.qmail@hotmail.com> Witold is keeping secrets from us chums! Not only is that a great Berg reference, but if you chop the URL down to http://www.modelarstwo.kk.opole.pl there's a fab general modeling site hidden behind it. The only OT stuff I can find is in the flying model section, but there are some fine ot efforts on there Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:43:32 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Alps-less decals? Message-ID: <002701bf7e25$8190bf60$210d56d1@default> Tom said something the other day that got me to thinking. (dangerous business there Tommy) Tom recommended an airbrushed coat of future to strengthen old decals. He mentioned letting it dry thoroughly. That was the key. What about a sprayed layer of Future on clear decal paper. Let it dry well and print whatever image you want on it. Then in very light misted coats, build up a protective layer of Future and then let it cure. Will this protect the water soluble ink jet ink? I aim to find out. I'll report whatever results. sp E-mail smperry@mindspring.com Web Site http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/wwimodeler/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:56:46 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Alps-less decals? Message-ID: <94.11415f9.25e5795e@aol.com> In a message dated 2/23/100 12:46:39 PM EST, smperry@mindspring.com writes: << Will this protect the water soluble ink jet ink? I aim to find out. I'll report whatever results. >> I can save you the time on this. Scott VanAken and I came up with that same idea for him trying it on his inkjet printer with the new decal paper. The problem is that the inkjet colors do not go on thick enough to stop being translucent when you use them as decals. If you have a white base you are applying them to, they work. Otherwise it is a waste of time, effort and resources. The inkjet inks just aren't up to the effort yet. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:26:45 -0800 From: "Mike Fanklin" To: Cc: Subject: Re: MAN o' man! Message-ID: <007501bf7e33$f46a43e0$18edfc9e@default> As it happens, I have just such a copy. What do you need? Mike Franklin Bellingham, WA "No man is so hated as he who will drive the speed limit." ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:34 PM Subject: MAN o' man! > Whose got a copy of Model > Airplanes News--ta > da--from December '50? > Wow, half a century ago. > M'gosh. > Stef > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:56:50 -0000 From: "Andy Kemp" To: Subject: Re: "All The King's Men" Message-ID: <007e01bf7e41$46c2aa80$a31fac3e@675> > Scho (Physics Teacher.) City School? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:01:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: A Hex on Your Lozenge! Unique A-H Camo? Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1D52@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Peter says: > And the same picture is in the Profile with an accompanying colour > illustration, and a caption suggesting that it is hand > painted. If that's > the one then, whatever it is, it's isn't the much loved > German lozenge with > which wec are all so familiar. > About Stefs request: > << A photo reproduced in > Cross & Cockade USA Vol > 1, no 4, shows an Aviatik > Berg apparently decked > out in German lozenge on > both fuselage & upper > main planes. > Has this usage been > described in any detail > elsewhere? > TIA & regards, > Stef > >> And Skippys comments: > Not having seen the photo in question, I wonder if it might > be similar to > the > photo in the JaPo book of the Alb DIII (Oef) 153.112 of Flik > 41J, page 37. > This is a regular hexagonal pattern of seven colors, the > caption says it is > a > printed linen, and was applied to the fuselage, skid fairing > and rudder at > least, and it looks like the bottom of the fuselage too. > Can't tell about > the wings though. There is a color plate of the lozenge but I > don't know > anything about the source. > Same pic is in the big A/H book. It just says that it was an experimental finish, but not how it was applied. FWIW it certainly isn't the German style given that the polygons are all the same size and shape, a flattened hexagon. This scheme is really curious. The A-H already had the crazy labour intensive practice of painting BIG hexes on aircraft. If it's painted, it just seems like more work for no apparent benefit painting lots of little hexes. If it's fabric, like the sworl, it seems like a lot of extra weight in fabric and dope to put onto an already strong *wood* fuselage for no obvious benefit. Truly the spirit of experiment was alive and well at that time! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:08:13 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: 'All the King's Men' and a battlefield tour of Verdun Message-ID: <200002232208.OAA18856@mail.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, For those in the BC/ Washington state areas . . . KCTS 9 in Seattle is running two OT shows tonight. ... first is a rebroadcast of the Masterpiece Theatre production of All the King's Men that was discussed last week. . this will air at 1am (just right for me as that is in the middle of my work 'day'). And there is also a show called travels in Europe which will be visiting Verdun (among others) at 7pm Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:07:52 -0600 From: "Ken Acosta" To: Subject: 1/48 Ace Decals Message-ID: I'm trying to track down 1/48 markings for WW1 pilots on both sides of the war. Aeromaster has a few, but not near enough. Who (if anyone) makes markings for the following pilots/planes? Hermann Goering / Albatros or Fokker D-VII Oswald Boelke / Anything Bruno Loerzer / Anything Ernst Udet / Fokker D-VII; Georges Guynemer / Spad VII; Albert Ball / SE5a; Mick Mannock / anything; Billy Bishop / anything; Any ace / Sopwith Pup; Any ace / Nieuport 28 Thanks- Ken ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2158 **********************