WWI Digest 2151 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Your C&C index, was Re: 65 Individual etc by skarver@banet.net 2) Thanks, was Re: Refs. for Alb. C.VII by skarver@banet.net 3) Re: eduard D.III machine gun placement?? by Scottfking@aol.com 4) Re: New Salamander pictures by "Michael Kendix" 5) Re: New Salamander pictures by Dennis Ugulano 6) Re: 1/48 Avro 504 and Curtiss Jenny by bucky@ptdprolog.net 7) Re: Display cases by bucky@ptdprolog.net 8) Re: Has Anybody tried this??? by Pedro e Francisca 9) Eduard Albatros D.Va by "Michael Kendix" 10) Web Page update/DH5 by "Peter Leonard" 11) RE: Osprey books (and Eduard D.V) by "Matthew Bittner" 12) Re: New Salamander pictures by "Matthew Bittner" 13) wire wheel rims by "Michael Kendix" 14) Re: wire wheel rims by smperry@mindspring.com 15) Re: Web Page update/DH5 by Pedro e Francisca 16) Re: Web Page update/DH5 by Dennis Ugulano 17) Passchendaele 1/48 Halberstadt D.III by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 18) RE: Eduard Albatros D.Va by Shane Weier 19) Re: wire wheel rims by "Candice Uhlir" 20) RE: Osprey books (and Eduard D.V) by Shane Weier 21) Eduard Albatros D.V(a) WAS: Osprey books by Shane Weier 22) Re: Web Page update/DH5 by "Matthew Bittner" 23) Re: Web Page update/DH5 by Ray Boorman 24) Re: Osprey books by Albatrosdv@aol.com 25) Re: Web Page update/DH5 by Albatrosdv@aol.com 26) Presentation Marks by "D Charles" 27) Re: Presentation Marks by Ray Boorman 28) Re: Passchendaele 1/48 Halberstadt D.III by "Dale Beamish" 29) RE: Presentation Marks by Shane Weier 30) Eduard 1/72 Albatros ProfiPack: some minor gripes by David Solosy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 08:11:02 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Your C&C index, was Re: 65 Individual etc Message-ID: <38AFE7E5.35AF6690@banet.net> Good morning--- On the ww1 modeling list, you recently made the kind offer: > I have a Cross & Cockades (USA) Table of Contents by Volume and Number in > e-mail format that I received courtesy of Bob Pearson. It is long but > would this be something worthwhile posting to the List. Has this progressed? If posting to the list as a 'bulletin board' is not possible, is it possible to send privately? TIA & regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 08:56:52 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Thanks, was Re: Refs. for Alb. C.VII Message-ID: <38AFF2A4.3FE3C187@banet.net> Good morning, D.-- Back on the 7t, you kindly replied: > I think that I have something of this type around there, a double spread > from Model and Allied Publications. Allow me to dig into my archives (the > old shoebox again). What are you looking for, specifically? Maybe other > related types can be useful for you as well... I've settled on doing the antecedent of this model, that is to say, the C. V, as Sierra offered a vac form in the quarter scale in wich I build--thus avoiding the scratch-building that I would prefer to avoid! Anyway, the C. V, I decided, is slicker and sleeker, with its buried engine. Luckily, I have available to me the 1918 Flight coverage of a captured machine, which will help detail out the accurate but bare-bones Sierra offering. However, since it seems we can never have too much in the way of references I would take you up on the offer of the MAP plans for either of these Albatros, and whatever you think would help with the rear position. I think the pilot's office is covered sufficiently in the Flight material (and I hope to get my hands on someModel Airplane News drawings as well, tho' I suspect that they will be a little thin on interior details). (Of course, I will be happy to exchange copies of the Flight material--the 30 odd pages would probably be best sent by old-fashioned snail mail.) Regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:12:41 EST From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: eduard D.III machine gun placement?? Message-ID: In a message dated 2/19/00 10:30:21 PM EST, lee@cconnect.net writes: << I'm on the home stretch in completing my D.III. I'm having trouble positioning the machine guns . Seems that if I glue them according to the instructions, the engine is getting in the way, preventing the proper alignment of the guns. Has anyone else had this problem? Lee Rouse >> Yes, I had the same problem. I ended up filing part of the ammunition tank and the machine gun receivers to adjust. Seems like it was worse on one side, I can't recall which. IIRC I also had to bend the upper rearmost part of the engine slightly to one side. Luckily it is pretty well hidden by the upper wing. Skippy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 06:13:34 PST From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: New Salamander pictures Message-ID: <20000220141334.87507.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: Ray Boorman > >I have put up new pictures of the Salamander on my page. Plus I put up a >picture on the botom of my page just for Tom Carver and his ot penitence >stuff ;) However dont despair its still in the correct scale...... >Ray > Ray: Looks good! Keep up the excellent work. We could use more RAF/RFC 1/72 stuff. A tribute to Toko's fine products. Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:04:03 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New Salamander pictures Message-ID: <200002201004_MC2-99E4-D38A@compuserve.com> Ray, Nice Salamander and a very attractive D.VIII. I finally updated my site and added the Pegasus Albatros W-4 and the Toko Nieuport 16c. # 100 still sits sad and almost forgotten. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 2/6/00 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:26:13 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: 1/48 Avro 504 and Curtiss Jenny Message-ID: <38B00795.738B99A3@ptdprolog.net> Ken I built the 504 about 5-6 years ago. My skills were even more limited back then. Anyway, the best thing about the model is the way it looks with all the rigging! Even a poor job looks great with all those wires seeming to run every which-way. I've got one on my shelf, waiting to try it again when I feel better about doing cockpit interiors. Mike Muth nb: W-29 in 1/48 and Anatra Anasol in 1/72 Ken Acosta wrote: > All- > > I'd love to have each of these in my 1/48 collection. Is the Smer kit of the 504 and the Lindberg kit of the Jenny the only kits of these types available? > > Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:39:21 -0500 From: bucky@ptdprolog.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Display cases Message-ID: <38B00AA9.D9FACA27@ptdprolog.net> Dave and I use the same system....a basic Wal-Mart/K-Mart bookcase with glass doors. Usually costs around $50-$70. What I added to mine were 4 long pieces of glass so that I could double the available usable space. The glass shelves allow you to see to the lower level and have the effect of makng things look brighter inside. Er...make sure the glass is cut to the right size or else you'll likely suffer the BIG CRASH I had 2 years ago that sort of wiped out a lot of myearlier stuff. ;-) Mike Muth Zulis@aol.com wrote: > << I need to buy a display case for my models. Does anyone know of sources > for > these? >> > > Hi Michael, > > I guess it depends upon what you have in mind. If you are thinking of the > horizontal, department store - type case, I cant help you. However, a few > years ago, I bought four el cheapo china cabinet / bookcases from Walmart. > They are not of the quality one might want in the living room, but I keep > two of them in the guest room displaying my oldest collectable books and some > models. They have glass doors to help control the dust and the contents > can be viewed without the temptation to handle them. Guaranteed cat-proof, > too. I think they cost about $90 Canadian apiece, and could probably be > had in the US for about $50. > > Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:21:24 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Has Anybody tried this??? Message-ID: <38AFB213.57769E7E@mail.telepac.pt> Roger Belanger wrote: > the heat traveled up the wire and welded > it to the plastic wing, I proceeded to finish it in the same manner and I > like the method. Sounds like you got a new Hot tip to The List, Roger. Thanks and let me know what you have done to > overcome the thinness of the Brass etchings..Roger Belanger Roger, on my sopwith Schneider I substituted contrail struts for the wing struts but I used the kit's PE struts for the floats. After setting them in place I painted the struts 4 or 5 times with white wood glue to thicken them and it worked ok. When I had achieved a decent thickness I just painted them wood coulour and that was it. HTH Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:23:11 PST From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Eduard Albatros D.Va Message-ID: <20000220172311.73335.qmail@hotmail.com> Shane mentioned minor faults with the new Eduard D.Va. Supposing, I wanted to build it as a D.Va, as opposed to a D.V. What corrections are needed? Is the Profipack version, the same basic kit; I mean does it contain the same plastic parts on the sprue? Thanks, Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:09:44 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Web Page update/DH5 Message-ID: <20000220190944.42269.qmail@hotmail.com> I've just added a new page to my Escadrille site which may be of interest in view of recent threads concerning the DH5. The page, titled "Triple Play", covers conversions on the SMER Camel and includes some notes on my DH5. A bit sketchy but you never know, it may turn on a light bulb for someone. cheers Peter L http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com We are what we eat, some of us should stay off the nuts. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:02:42 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: RE: Osprey books (and Eduard D.V) Message-ID: <200002201942.LAA11108@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:50:28 -0500 (EST), Shane Weier wrote: > Lets hope the profiles are accurate. Do we know who has done these volumes > yet? As Bob said. However, *all* profile information was provided by Greg VanWyngarden, and I know some of the profiles were changed with comments made by him. Lance, Glen and I have seen the profiles (I think Lance has) and they are superb. I have heard the profiles and the photo's are worth the cost of the book alone. The text in both the Nieuport and Albatros books were provided by Norman Franks. While not high on my "personal likes" list, he should do a decent job anyway. Definitely better than the In Action! ;-) Please, everyone try to pick up at least one of these - and tell your friends about them - so Osprey sees there is a market out there and keeps producing them. At least they can't be as bad as the Osprey VVS book! Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:49:07 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: New Salamander pictures Message-ID: <200002201951.LAA16222@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 02:48:12 -0500 (EST), Ray Boorman wrote: > Hi all, I managed to toast my mailbox over the last few days. SWMBO wanted > her own mailbox and somehow I hit the delete key, so anyone who sent me > email its toast. Dontcha hate when that happens? > I have put up new pictures of the Salamander on my page. Plus I put up a > picture on the botom of my page just for Tom Carver and his ot penitence > stuff ;) However dont despair its still in the correct scale...... Great new pictures! Much improvement. Don't fret any. That I-16 is a lot closer to our side than any 10thingie is... ;-) Plus it's VVS, so it's near and dear to a couple of our hearts. Matt Bittner Modeling the Aircraft of the Soviet VVS 1930-1945 Web Site Co-Author http://www.oz.net/~xopowo/VVS/vvs.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:19:59 PST From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: wire wheel rims Message-ID: <20000220201959.78517.qmail@hotmail.com> Do photoetch wire wheels need a plastic rim/tyre? Should I hollow out the covered plastic wheel and use that? Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 15:42:39 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: wire wheel rims Message-ID: <000f01bf7be3$07ded560$500d56d1@default> My experience is limited to how FotoCut and Eduard do it. Both had tyre/rim pieces. Two per wheel, split on a plane through the disc. Fotocut gave me two tyre pieces for each wheel. Each flat on one side. Made of cast metal in 1/72. Eduard's were of styrene and in 1:48. On both, the hub & PE spokes were sandwiched between the two tyre halves. The seam was filled with CA and sanded to shape. Dave Vosburgh showed me some photos of very impressive home made wire wheels he had made. On these he used white plastic rings (used in crochetting and available at Michael's Craft stores). The rings were sanded flat on one side and two were used per wheel. He did the spokes as per St. Harry IIRC. I have a packet of each size and intend to use them, but haven't yet. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:48:19 +0000 From: Pedro e Francisca To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web Page update/DH5 Message-ID: <38B05313.F3070B86@mail.telepac.pt> Peter Leonard wrote: > I've just added a new page to my Escadrille site which may be of interest in > view of recent threads concerning the DH5. The page, titled "Triple Play", > covers conversions on the SMER Camel and includes some notes on my DH5. A > bit sketchy but you never know, it may turn on a light bulb for someone. > > cheers > > Peter L > http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com > > We are what we eat, some of us should stay off the nuts. Peter, Great Job. I wish I could turn out such gems out of such basic stuff. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:12:25 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Web Page update/DH5 Message-ID: <200002201612_MC2-99E8-F60B@compuserve.com> Peter, Masterful job on the DH-5. It shows just what you said. Old kits don't have to be scraped because a new one comes along. Excellent job. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://members.xoom.com/Uggies/dju.htm Page Revised 2/6/00 "Every modeller will rise to his own level of masochism" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:18:44 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Passchendaele 1/48 Halberstadt D.III Message-ID: <000701bf7be8$12ae1190$f537183f@cyrixp166> We finally have our act together on this on and I am ready to take orders. Please contact me off-line for details. Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:22:33 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Eduard Albatros D.Va Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1D23@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Michael, > Shane mentioned minor faults with the new Eduard D.Va. No I didn't. "Compromises" is what I said. > Supposing, I wanted > to build it as a D.Va, as opposed to a D.V. What corrections > are needed? For a D.Va the lower wing is correct. To make the upper wing correct, remove the ailerons (which you'd probably do anyway) and cut a slot into the trailing edge of the wing in each cutout just outboard of the V struts (IIRC, check drawings !) Insert a short rod into the leading edge of each aileron which then fits in the slot - the forward of the two actuating wires attaches to this, the aft to the aileron near the TE. > > Is the Profipack version, the same basic kit; I mean does it > contain the > same plastic parts on the sprue? Exactly the same plastic Yummy kits Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:34:34 GMT From: "Candice Uhlir" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: wire wheel rims Message-ID: <20000220213434.43949.qmail@hotmail.com> I just did my first set of wire wheels for my 504K. I used the Robert Karr trick using ruber O-rings. The foto-etch wire wheel parts fit pretty nicely. the only problem I had was bonding the photoetch to the rubber. I ended up using contact cement. Candice >From: "Michael Kendix" >Reply-To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: wire wheel rims >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 15:25:31 -0500 (EST) > >Do photoetch wire wheels need a plastic rim/tyre? Should I hollow out the >covered plastic wheel and use that? > >Michael >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:37:11 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Osprey books (and Eduard D.V) Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1D25@mimhexch.mim.com.au> I said: > > Lets hope the profiles are accurate. Do we know who has > >done these volumes yet? Matt says: > Please, everyone try to pick up at least one of these - and tell > your friends about them - so Osprey sees there is a market out > there and keeps producing them. > > At least they can't be as bad as the Osprey VVS book! > ..thats the sort of thing I was worrying about. I'm all in favour of lots and lots of new refs, especially at the sort of prices of the Ospreys and S-S In Actions, but I've seen some pretty seriosu clangers in both series and anticipate the easy access to them creating a slew of "instant expert" judges who I'd rather be accurately informed (do you know if the words "as far as we know" and "In our opinion" are used ;-) ? Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:43:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Eduard Albatros D.V(a) WAS: Osprey books Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1D26@mimhexch.mim.com.au> A Dave says: > Just picked up the Profipack edition. At $14., I think that > Pegasus has competition.... > ..except in so far as Eduard will probably release more mainstream subject. Which, incidentally, I think a good idea, since some of the mainstream kits could do with an upgrade now that decent kits are available of more esoteric subjects. FWIW I bought both (Profi and non-Profi) kits on Friday for a trifle under A$30 total - US$18.85 the pair which undercuts even the Tokos ! Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 15:57:10 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Web Page update/DH5 Message-ID: <200002202159.NAA27982@crow.a001.sprintmail.com> On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:13:45 -0500 (EST), Peter Leonard wrote: > I've just added a new page to my Escadrille site which may be of interest in > view of recent threads concerning the DH5. The page, titled "Triple Play", > covers conversions on the SMER Camel and includes some notes on my DH5. A > bit sketchy but you never know, it may turn on a light bulb for someone. Well done! I still marvel at the DH5. The design is - well - "different". :-) Probably the only British subject I am truly enamoured with. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:19:09 -0800 From: Ray Boorman To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web Page update/DH5 Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000220141719.00a703c0@pop.telus.net> My god, talk about silk purses from sows ears. No offense on the Smer Camel, but however did you get the idea to make the DH5....... Thats well impressive is the only words. Ray At 02:14 PM 2/20/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I've just added a new page to my Escadrille site which may be of interest in >view of recent threads concerning the DH5. The page, titled "Triple Play", >covers conversions on the SMER Camel and includes some notes on my DH5. A >bit sketchy but you never know, it may turn on a light bulb for someone. > >cheers > >Peter L >http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com > >We are what we eat, some of us should stay off the nuts. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:36:00 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Osprey books Message-ID: In a message dated 2/20/100 4:37:29 PM EST, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << I'm all in favour of lots and lots of new refs, especially at the sort of prices of the Ospreys and S-S In Actions, but I've seen some pretty seriosu clangers in both series and anticipate the easy access to them creating a slew of "instant expert" judges who I'd rather be accurately informed >> Tony Holmes is in the process of looking at acquiring the services of a "readability editor," who - unless I misjudge this person entirely - is capable of spotting clangers, or at least knowing someone to ask about it when in doubt. There is one thing to say about the Ospreys: Tony's father is a long-time modeler, and he created the series with "Dad" as the final checkpoint as to whether it was interesting to modelers. As to Matt's comment about the VVS book, let's remember that that other VVS *experte* who's also on this list has yet to expose his information to independent researchers for verification, something anyone involved in historical research has to do sooner or later - declarations from "on high" are fine, but I stopped believing "the pope is infallible" (no put-down to Catholic members of the list) long ago. Also, the book was published in a moment when a lot of information was starting to come out, which means some of it's marking information is bound to have been out of date. I personally think that the Ospreys are excellent material for that "golden mean" modeler - the guy who quit the hobby at 13 to chase girls, who has returned at 35 to escape his kids. He has the hand-eye coordination of an adult and the knowledge of a kid. The general histories in the books are good, and the fact they don't always choose "the usual suspects" to write about makes them interesting even to those of us who have been involved with this stuff 40 years. So far as I see, the choices in authors that have been made in the series so far includes people who are demonstrably knowledgeable in their fields - I defy anyone to have the information on Japanese aces Henry Sakaida has, and Barrett Tillman is the "gold standard" of what a knowledgeable aviation historian should be (and I would say that even if I didn't know both of them). Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:48:30 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Web Page update/DH5 Message-ID: <9b.1bc0f98.25e1f36e@aol.com> << >Peter L >http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com > >We are what we eat, some of us should stay off the nuts. >> Peter, after viewing the "triple play," all I can say is: you haven't been following your own advice! :-) I take it your workshop area has rubberized walls?? Really nice stuff!! Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:51:44 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Presentation Marks Message-ID: <000101bf7c10$49ef3e40$27b93ecb@charles> Hullo all What's the current thinking on Presentation markings on British aeroplanes? Both sides or just one? TIA. David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:36:48 -0800 From: Ray Boorman To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Presentation Marks Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000220182902.00a73710@pop.telus.net> Good question, in data file #18 Fe2b Page 3 the caption for the picture says No 6338 was also a presentation aircraft, but bore its inscription "Ceylon No 3, A nightjar from Ceylon" only on the port side. of the nacelle. The wording of the caption suggests that it was more common for them to be captioned on both sides. However I have just been through 3 data files and some other books and of course the pictures are only of one side. However on the DH-5 I am researching, inscriptions show up on different sides for various aircraft. In other words probably both sides but check the aircraft your building if possible. Ray At 09:04 PM 2/20/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Hullo all > >What's the current thinking on Presentation markings on British aeroplanes? >Both sides or just one? >TIA. >David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:12:57 -0700 From: "Dale Beamish" To: Subject: Re: Passchendaele 1/48 Halberstadt D.III Message-ID: <006901bf7c19$ab865f40$03000004@darcy> Could you please send details? DB ----- Original Message ----- From: John & Allison Cyganowski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 20 February, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: Passchendaele 1/48 Halberstadt D.III > We finally have our act together on this on and I am ready to take orders. > Please contact me off-line for details. > > Cyg. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:27:39 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Presentation Marks Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1D2B@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Ray, > However on the DH-5 I am > researching, ...you and David should *really* get together on this. I suspect he's about to start painting inscriptions on a 1:28 DH-5 Am I right David? > In other words probably both sides but check the aircraft > your building if possible. And if I may be so bold - which aircraft ? (feel free to tell me to wait until I see it at QMHE ;-) Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:18:14 +0800 From: David Solosy To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: Eduard 1/72 Albatros ProfiPack: some minor gripes Message-ID: G'day list   Just de-lurking to tell list members about my experiences so far with the new Eduard 1/72 Albatros. I've built the non-ProfiPack version as the Jentsch mount (not Jautsch as Eduard have misquoted, obviously from the Squad Signal book). Turned out all right. Wrote a review and took some photos for the Perth Military Modelling Society website, and that will appear soon. I then thought that this was a nice (well, very, very nice actually) kit and its very few shortcomings may be remedied by the ProfiPack. I particularly looked forward to lozenge decals.   Well, I have mixed feelings about the ProfiPack.(Look, I'm getting tired of typing ProfiPack, so I'll just use the initials PrP from now on). It comes with lozenge decals already printed to the shape of the wings and tailplane. Laid chordwise etc, very nice. However, the upper surface lozenge is IMHO way too bright and light. Some of the colours are a long way from acceptable. Compared to the Pegasus and Americal Griffon 5 colour sheets the Eduard sheets look a bit silly. The undersurface is acceptable, in my view. The shape and size of the lozenges themselves is pretty good.   The kit comes with some colourful schemes. While the kit is labelled a D.V, two of the schemes, including the box cover subject are D.Va's. Eduard have used the same sprue for the D.V as they have for the D.Va. One simply needs to remove the auxilliary strut on the main V struts and change aileron rigging controls and add the control shrouds to have a D.V.   Despite this being the PrP and with the beautiful Zoom etched set and all, there are still some shortcomings. For starters, there is no radiator pipe. I had to make my own for the D.Va and thought this would be provided in the PrP. It is quite an obvious feature of the Albatros.   Secondly, the rather prominent instrument bar that usually has a huge tachometer mounted on it is not provided either. Again, I have to scratch build one. From a PrP one would expect a bit more.   There's a headrest provided (er, not for me - for the model) although none of the aircraft for which markings are offered have a headrest. However, that is a thoughtful addition for those who might model birds with such a feature.   Also copped a view of the Eduard 2000 catalogue yesterday. Yum. There is some beautiful box art coming. In 1/72 there will be the Fokker F.1 (Voss - without yellow cowl - on the box art). Then there's the Dr.I with one of  MvR's on the box. Then the ProfiPak with Kempf on the box. These are all becoming a little cliche now, I think - but if it gets the punters in...).   Anyone else had a go at the Albatros yet?   Regards to one and all   David Solosy ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2151 **********************