WWI Digest 2141 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Charles Schulz by "Andrew Ronayne" 2) Re: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay by KarrArt@aol.com 3) RE: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay by Shane Weier 4) One born every minute by Albatrosdv@aol.com 5) (Possible) VCR Alert by "John Glaser" 6) Re: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay by "Matthew Bittner" 7) Re: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 8) Re: One born every minute by Lyle Lamboley 9) (ot) VCR Alert by Albatrosdv@aol.com 10) Re: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 by Albatrosdv@aol.com 11) Re: (ot) VCR Alert by Lyle Lamboley 12) Re: One born every minute by KarrArt@aol.com 13) Re: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay by KarrArt@aol.com 14) Re: Was Kit Prices...... =?iso-8859-1?B?oA==?= Now DH5 by "cameron rile" 15) Albatros C.V by "Matthew Bittner" 16) Joystick Sopwith Batboat by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 17) windsock datafile on ebay by "David Calhoun" 18) Re: Was Kit Prices...... =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0?= Now DH5 by "Lee Mensinger" 19) Jasta 5 colors by "David Calhoun" 20) Re: windsock datafile on ebay by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 21) RE: Jasta 5 colors by Shane Weier 22) Re: Joystick Sopwith Batboat by peter crow 23) RE: Jasta 5 colors by ERIC HIGHT 24) Re: Jasta 5 colors by Lyle Lamboley 25) RE: Jasta 5 colors by Shane Weier 26) Jasta 65b WAS: Jasta 5 colors by Shane Weier 27) Pensacola seminar by "Bob Pearson" 28) Re: Jasta 65b WAS: Jasta 5 colors by "Bob Pearson" 29) Planet SpadXI by Sixmilfigs@cs.com 30) (ot) VCR Alert - an addendum by Albatrosdv@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:35:02 +1100 From: "Andrew Ronayne" To: Subject: Re: Charles Schulz Message-ID: <002701bf7672$92b8d800$7ccb1dcb@t9hf2> I'm bummed about his death too, though fittingly, he gave this mailing list an appropriate oath to utter...."Curse you Red Baron!" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, 14 February 2000 3:29 Subject: Re: Charles Schulz > Rats! > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:12:12 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay Message-ID: <50.18c4081.25d8944c@aol.com> In a message dated 2/13/00 12:42:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, smperry@mindspring.com writes: << Assuming this item to be genuine, look at the quality of the white paint. The earlier stuff is still there. the stuff put on in spring of 1918 has faded away with time. Looks like late war materials quality problems were showing. Makes you wonder how much this would affect after the war color research based on genuine fabric samples of late war planes? I imagine some of the pigments began deteriorating very rapidly. White sure seems to have. sp >> on the general subject of WW I paints and various types of goo slathered on airplanes, the new WW I Aero has an absolutely fascinating article about a piece of vR's triplane 425/17. What makes the piece so interesting in not the vR connection but the detailed chemical analysis by Alan Toelle. You can learn exactly what was in the paint and dope, the size in microns of the various particles- all that good science stuff. Almost Holmesian in the way he considers one idea, grabs his acids and solvents, runs some tests, and then thinks it all through. (and BTW, there's NO iron oxide in the pigment...just a neat tid-bit) RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:30:52 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CED@mimhexch.mim.com.au> SP says: > Assuming this item to be genuine, look at the quality of the > white paint. > The earlier stuff is still there. the stuff put on in spring > of 1918 has > faded away with time. > > Looks like late war materials quality problems were showing. While this may be true, I doubt it. More likely the difference between factory application in perfect conditions of the original dope viz. the field application of a *different* paint which might well have been of different quality - but paint for field application might well have been of lower quality from day one of the war. And field application may have been quickly or poorly done. And the surface the field paint was applied to may not have been prepared properly (think ingrained castor oil fumes) And the field paint may have been of a different type with a different coefficient of expansion and therefore will scale off over time. And so on...... Thinking now of my truck in my Army days. Nice green factory paint, touched up by brush with the same paint exactly as used at the rebuild unit - guess what always peeled first ? Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 19:39:02 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: One born every minute Message-ID: The following was posted on r.m.s. Sort of reminds me of the post up on Amazon.com lauding the one movie I wish I could forget ever writing. Tom C As I recall, it *was* something of a hoot. Subject: Re: Great old movies From: "Tony Whitaker" About 6 weeks ago, I saw for the first time the early 70s movie "Zeppelin". What a fantastic movie. I assume it's entirely fictional. It's about a German plan during WWI to fly a Zeppelin filled with German commandos to a castle in Scotland where the British government has stowed away most of the country's important documents. They plan to approach from Norway, attack at night with mustard gas, break in, and steal the documents. If you haven't seen this one, go get it. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:38:28 -0600 From: "John Glaser" To: "WW1 Mail List \(E-mail\)" Subject: (Possible) VCR Alert Message-ID: <001501bf7683$d2f26ec0$8d00000a@johnghome> "Guns of the Air" on the U S History channel at 8 PM EST. Sure to have some OT material. Also repeats at midnight EST. - JCG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:49:45 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Re: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay Message-ID: <200002140052.QAA06280@magpie.a001.sprintmail.com> On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:16:28 -0500 (EST), KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > on the general subject of WW I paints and various types of goo slathered on > airplanes, the new WW I Aero has an absolutely fascinating article about a > piece of vR's triplane 425/17. What makes the piece so interesting in not > the vR connection but the detailed chemical analysis by Alan Toelle. You can > learn exactly what was in the paint and dope, the size in microns of the > various particles- all that good science stuff. Almost Holmesian in the way > he considers one idea, grabs his acids and solvents, runs some tests, and > then thinks it all through. (and BTW, there's NO iron oxide in the > pigment...just a neat tid-bit) This is exactly what he did with Project Butterfly that ran in the original C&C. Unfortunately long out of print, but if you can get your hands on copies, and enjoy learning about French colors and dopes (careful out there...) this is not to be missed. Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:17:29 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 Message-ID: <200002140117.RAA16245@smtpout.telus.net> Cam's site, is great, it is on a subject that could easily get lost amongst all the other histories, the combat reports and period colour pictures give it a more human touch too. Where else are you going to see a "New South Wales Ladies Battle Plane"!!! - I wonder if I could get decals for that one hmmmmm........ http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/PointCook/afc_profiles_10102.ht m On 13 Feb 00, at 17:26, KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > Makes the ol' staggerwing look positively mouthwatering....and BTW, > whenever I visit Cam's page, I come away knowing something I didn't > know before- a great page. RK > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:49:01 -0500 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: One born every minute Message-ID: <20000213.204902.-146981.1.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 19:43:32 -0500 (EST) Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: > The following was posted on r.m.s. > > Sort of reminds me of the post up on Amazon.com lauding the one > movie I wish > I could forget ever writing. > > Tom C > > As I recall, it *was* something of a hoot. Hi Tom, When Marius Goring's character in this film appeared at the Friederichshafen Zeppelin sheds with a Uhlan helmet on, I knew we were in for quite a production. A Viking helmet would have had been just as appropriate, and would have gone far better with the corniest-of-corny plots, IMHO. :-) The one redeeming thing was the ex-Blue Max SE5a at the end... Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:52:21 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: (ot) VCR Alert Message-ID: <1e.16ae7f7.25d8b9d5@aol.com> Given the high intellectual level of this group, I am certain that there is a higher percentage of 'HOMICIDE: Life On The Streets" fans than one might find in the general population (as opposed to, say, the One-Ho-Thingie modelers who would naturally watch Don Johnson, for instance :-)). At any rate, I thought I would mention that there is a HOMICIDE movie on NBC tonight which ties together the series and gives it that final episode their Supreme Dorknesses didn't allow last year when the show was summarily cast out into the wilderness. The word here in Hollywierd is that it's very good (and believe me, there's no critics like the real critics here - we know when we've been out basting turkeys). Thought you might like to know that life on the tube isn't a total waste tonight. If those of you on the East Coast leap up and run to your sets, you'll be just in time. Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:58:45 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 Message-ID: <98.1b30af2.25d8bb55@aol.com> In a message dated 2/13/100 8:17:48 PM EST, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: << http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/PointCook/afc_profiles_10102.ht m >> I have tried this address three times and get "Xoom member page not found!" Can someone provide the correct URL so I can discover all this amazing stuff? Cheers, Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:58:51 -0500 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: (ot) VCR Alert Message-ID: <20000213.205852.-146981.3.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> I'm heading for the TV right now... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:59:47 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: One born every minute Message-ID: In a message dated 2/13/00 4:40:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, Albatrosdv@aol.com writes: << About 6 weeks ago, I saw for the first time the early 70s movie "Zeppelin". What a fantastic movie. I assume it's entirely fictional. It's about a German plan during WWI to fly a Zeppelin filled with German commandos to a castle in Scotland where the British government has stowed away most of the country's important documents. They plan to approach from Norway, attack at night with mustard gas, break in, and steal the documents. If you haven't seen this one, go get it. >> Fantastic is right- in the real sense of being a fantasy or unbelievable! The aerial scenes ARE neat.....but that plot has got to go! (but why do I find myself watching it whenever it comes on?) The great Zeppelin movie has yet to be made (although the Zep parts of Hells Angels comes pretty damn close) RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:59:45 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay Message-ID: In a message dated 2/13/00 4:53:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, tbittners@sprintmail.com writes: << This is exactly what he did with Project Butterfly that ran in the original C&C. Unfortunately long out of print, but if you can get your hands on copies, and enjoy learning about French colors and dopes (careful out there...) this is not to be missed. Matt Bittner >> Yeah- same sort of analysis...if WW I Aero would've just published cross section photos where some of the fabric was embeded in resin, a section sliced and polished, then photographed end-on. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:39:15 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Was Kit Prices...... =?iso-8859-1?B?oA==?= Now DH5 Message-ID: <015200AA642E3D115AA20005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> Tom, http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/PointCook/afc_profiles_10102.htm >I have tried this address three times and get "Xoom member page not found!" >Can someone provide the correct URL so I can discover all this amazing stuff? The "m" got popped off the end and Xoom sends you to an advert page if you dont get the URL spot on. One day Ill put the site on a proper server under a proper URL like www.australianflyingcorps.org. Incase the top one doesnt work, the start page is; http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm from there it can pretty much take you anywhere. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:41:44 -0600 From: "Matthew Bittner" To: "wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Albatros C.V Message-ID: <200002140244.SAA29596@raven.a001.sprintmail.com> Due to a request, I put a reference page for the Albatros C.V on my Sprint site. Here's the URL: http://home.sprintmail.com/~tbittners/ Matt Bittner http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 19:57:53 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Joystick Sopwith Batboat Message-ID: <200002140357.TAA12982@smtpout.telus.net> On ebay their is someone selling one of these. Now I have checked and they wont ship to Canada for some reason, so I don't think I will buy it. (By the time I pay shipping to a friend in the US and then on to me it would be to expensive I would suspect) Anyway is JoyStick still producing vacs? Does anyone have experience with the Sopwith Batboat is it worthwhile?? Does anyone else produce a BatBoat (in Resin or Vac?) TIA Ray ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:59:57 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: windsock datafile on ebay Message-ID: <000301bf784b$715465a0$c1083ccc@oemcomputer> Just saw a lot of Datafiles on ebay. Type in Windsock Datafile under search to show list. Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:59:55 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, cameron rile Subject: Re: Was Kit Prices...... =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0?= Now DH5 Message-ID: <38A77DBB.18B699A9@wireweb.net> I am not making any excuses bu I clicked the URL you posted and the first thing I got was a page saying, on the Left AFC History and a very nice 8illustration of an Airco DH5. You are having a computer problem all your very own. http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/PointCook/afc_profiles_10102.htm This is what I clicked. Lee M. cameron rile wrote: > Tom, > > http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/PointCook/afc_profiles_10102.htm > > >I have tried this address three times and get "Xoom member page not found!" > >Can someone provide the correct URL so I can discover all this amazing stuff? > > The "m" got popped off the end and Xoom sends you to an advert page if you dont > get the URL spot on. One day Ill put the site on a proper server under a proper URL > like www.australianflyingcorps.org. > > Incase the top one doesnt work, the start page is; > > http://members.xoom.com/PointCook/index.htm > > from there it can pretty much take you anywhere. > > cam > > ______________________________________________________________ > Get Your Free E-mail and Homepage at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 23:08:51 -0800 From: "David Calhoun" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Jasta 5 colors Message-ID: <000f01bf784c$af5082c0$c1083ccc@oemcomputer> Here's a question concerning the color of Jasta 5 Albatros D.V's fuselages. The Americal Gryphon book states that they were dark gray (the color on his decal sheet looks like Modelmaster Gunship gray.) The Albatros in San Diego Air Museum is a light gray. The one in Arizona is aluminum. Looking at the photo of Flasher's D.V in the NASM D.Va book, the color appears as light gray, byt the gray is darker than the lozenge on the upper wing. Ortho film? Reflected light? Anybody have an accurate FS color or PMS color (don't have Muethen book). The Eduard instructions are wrong saying this aircraft was aluminum, and the mailed gauntlet decals are black outlines only. The photo in NASM shows this clearly as a white background with black outlines. If anyone has more photos of Jasta 5 aircraft, maybe they can shed some light on this subject. Thanks, Dave Calhoun ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:17:11 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: windsock datafile on ebay Message-ID: <200002140416.UAA20848@smtpout.telus.net> Looks like someone in Ontario is bidding for all of them. I wouldn't bid against them, as we all know everything printed on OT must eventually end up in the Great White North. (just joking by the way) Ray On 13 Feb 00, at 23:06, David Calhoun wrote: > Just saw a lot of Datafiles on ebay. Type in Windsock Datafile under > search to show list. Dave Calhoun > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:31:02 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Jasta 5 colors Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CF4@mimhexch.mim.com.au> David, > The > Albatros in San Diego > Air Museum is a light gray. A replica..... > The one in Arizona is aluminum. ...another replica.... FWIW, the colour schemes are only as good as their research, which may or may not be better than ours. They are at best a long way down the credibility chain as references, unless you're building a "model of a replica" > Looking at the > photo of Flasher's D.V in the NASM D.Va book, the color > appears as light > gray, byt the gray is darker than the lozenge on the upper > wing. Ortho > film? Reflected light? Anybody have an accurate FS color or PMS color Nobody. Nobody in the world. > The Eduard instructions are wrong > saying this > aircraft was aluminum, and the mailed gauntlet decals are > black outlines only. The photo in NASM shows this clearly as a white > background with black outlines. True, the fist is (probably) black and white, not outline only. > If anyone has more photos of Jasta 5 aircraft, maybe they can > shed some light on this subject. Albatros Pubs (Windsock) have announced a "forthcoming" book on Jasta 5 (in Windsock,last year). I understand that there will be a great number of photos therein, but don't have any notion when it'll be released. Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:40:50 -0800 (PST) From: peter crow To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Joystick Sopwith Batboat Message-ID: <20000214044050.4430.qmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> I did this kit many moons ago and I thought it was a great kit IMHO... do not know if they are still producing anything... P. Crow --- Ray_Boorman@telus.net wrote: > > Anyway is JoyStick still producing vacs? Does anyone > have > experience with the Sopwith Batboat is it > worthwhile?? > Does anyone else produce a BatBoat (in Resin or > Vac?) > > TIA Ray > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:40:40 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: RE: Jasta 5 colors Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000213214040.006d7da8@pop.amug.org> dear learned group, i had a customer ask for information on the d.vii with the seven swabbies on it. pilot, jasta etc. any info would be greatly appreciated. tia eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:01:17 -0500 From: Lyle Lamboley To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jasta 5 colors Message-ID: <20000214.000118.-146981.5.lyle.lamboley@juno.com> Hi Eric, The Swabbies were from Jasta 65 and its pilot was Scheutzel. The scheme is the same as von B.-Marconnay's in NASM. The fuse was gray, the tail and nose panels were brown, and the wings were, I believe, 4-color. I hope I got it right...where the devil is my Datafile? Lyle On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:50:54 -0500 (EST) ERIC HIGHT writes: > dear learned group, > i had a customer ask for information on the d.vii with the seven > swabbies > on it. pilot, jasta etc. any info would be greatly appreciated. > tia > eric > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:13:47 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'" Subject: RE: Jasta 5 colors Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CF5@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Lyle says: > The Swabbies were from Jasta 65 and its pilot was Scheutzel. > The scheme > is the same as von B.-Marconnay's in NASM. The fuse was > gray, the tail > and nose panels were brown, and the wings were, I believe, 4-color. I > hope I got it right...where the devil is my Datafile? ...and I believe he has it right. In addition, the aircraft is mid production OAW with the little semicircular vents and upturned lift handles and has modified engine panels elsewhere. Also IMHO it has the gun decking still in production OAW finish with the mauve polygons - the polygons are visible on both photos of which I'm aware. There are at least two model renditions on the web site; one is mine, the other I'm afraid escapes my memory right now Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:22:11 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi'" Subject: Jasta 65b WAS: Jasta 5 colors Message-ID: <65C968E11318D311B0BD0060B06865CDBD1CF6@mimhexch.mim.com.au> Lyle says: > The Swabbies were from Jasta 65 and its pilot was Scheutzel. > The scheme > is the same as von B.-Marconnay's in NASM. The fuse was > gray, the tail > and nose panels were brown, and the wings were, I believe, 4-color. I > hope I got it right...where the devil is my Datafile? ..and I believe he has it right. In addition, the aircraft is mid production OAW with the little semicircular vents and upturned lift handles and has modified engine panels elsewhere. Also IMHO it has the gun decking still in production OAW finish with the mauve polygons - the polygons are visible on both photos of which I'm aware. There are at least two model renditions on the web site; one is mine, the other I'm afraid escapes my memory right now Shane ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ************************************************************** The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:26:01 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Pensacola seminar Message-ID: <200002140522.VAA06496@mail.rapidnet.net> Greetings all, This is a sorta good news/bad news post. My travelling companion to the previous gatherings doubts he can make it to the OTF seminar in April. Would anyone on the list care to share a room for the nights of April 12-15th? If so please reply offlist and we will see what sort of arrangements can be made - I still have to finalize my plans. . all that is known is the Toronto contingent will arrive on the 12th to meet any other listees around .. the OTF social is the evening of the 13th, and then the seminar itself gets underway on the 14/15. I will have all my computer profiles and most likely all the watercolour ones on display again for those wanting to see them in person. Regards, Bob Pearson bpearson@rapidnet.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:28:45 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Jasta 65b WAS: Jasta 5 colors Message-ID: <200002140525.VAA06560@mail.rapidnet.net> It is also profiled on my CD. .. not sure if it is on the website or not though Bob ---------- >From: Shane Weier >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Jasta 65b WAS: Jasta 5 colors >Date: Sun, 13 Feb, 2000, 9:24 PM > > > Lyle says: > > >> The Swabbies were from Jasta 65 and its pilot was Scheutzel. >> The scheme >> is the same as von B.-Marconnay's in NASM. The fuse was >> gray, the tail >> and nose panels were brown, and the wings were, I believe, 4-color. I >> hope I got it right...where the devil is my Datafile? > > .and I believe he has it right. In addition, the aircraft is mid > production OAW with the little semicircular vents and upturned lift handles > and has modified engine panels elsewhere. Also IMHO it has the gun decking > still in production OAW finish with the mauve polygons - the polygons are > visible on both photos of which I'm aware. > > There are at least two model renditions on the web site; one is mine, the > other I'm afraid escapes my memory right now > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > The information contained in this E-Mail is confidential > and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this E-Mail in error, any use, distribution > or copying of this E-Mail is not permitted. 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You are > requested to forward unwanted E-Mail and address any problems > to the MIM Holdings Limited Help Desk. > E-Mail: helpdesk@mim.com.au or phone: Australia 07 3833 8042. > ************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 01:56:44 EST From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Planet SpadXI Message-ID: Cruising around NKR Models site and noticed something that might be of interest to someone. Until February 20, the Planet SpadXI kit is half price. Considering the conversion to $US, that puts it around the $10 range. No way affiliated with NKR, just a happy customer hoping to help someone else out. Shawn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:16:47 EST From: Albatrosdv@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: (ot) VCR Alert - an addendum Message-ID: <43.f68700.25d905df@aol.com> Just got through watching that "Homicide" movie - I hope some of the rest of you did, too. At the risk of sounding somewhat strange (not an uncommon position for me), really good writing is like really good modeling - there's many who say they can and damn few who do, and it's bloody hard to accomplish and fun while you're doing it in a perverse sort of way/. As opposed to movies, (where I work) in TV writers *count* - they and the actors are the only ones who are always there, and if they get the time, then over time they can do some pretty good stuff. Witness "NYPD Blue" or "Law and Order," both of which can stand comparison with anything by Dickens or Trollope. "Homicide" was always special - their first three seasons, the detectives were really "real": they didn't carry guns. I always thought arming them showed the shallowness of network TV in the quest for ratings. It was great to see a script written by Jimmy Yamaguchi - you may not know his name, but you might remember he wrote the story about the guy who got pushed under the subway. I am as good a writer as I am a modeler, and it's nice to know someone like him for the same reason it's nice to know RK. Same kind of guy - very damn good, scary damn good at what they do, and they have no "secrets," it's just good work, and they inspire you when you're around them, or when you just see their work. That scene were Bayliss confessed to Pembleton... that blew me away on the writing, and then the actors filled all the little empty spaces. Mmmmm. Anyway, it's been four years since I was found guilty of being "old enough to be good at what I do" and sentenced to find Something Else to do with my life than write. However, as those of you who know me know, I'm not too likely to submit to the rules of a game where the outcome is "I lose" (remember in "Star Trek II" where Admiral Kirk says that any game that the rules say "you lose," what you do is change the rules? That's how I operate.) Anyway, the point of this disjointedness is I can't think of a bunch of people I know elsewhere who might understand that there's a connection between being a WW1 modeler and being a screenwriter (neither get any respect, for starters), and it turns out that not paying attention to the rules that say I am "too old to be any good anymore" may not be in force now - at least for a couple projects of mine that seem to be in process of being picked up - and I know for a fact I wouldn't have survived the past couple of years sane had it not been for this bunch of "nut-cases." Anyway, thanks for listening to this and my other stuff, and thanks for being there. And if you're puzzled by this, well... such is life. :-) Tom Cleaver ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2141 **********************