WWI Digest 2140 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Stainless Steel Wire by "Michael Kendix" 2) Re: Cyg Will Be in the D.C. Area by "Michael S. Alvarado" 3) Re: Stainless Steel Wire by "Michael S. Alvarado" 4) Halb. Update by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 5) barely ot: Insignia Russian Civil War isse by skarver@banet.net 6) Re: Stainless Steel Wire by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 7) Re: I'm back did I miss anything??? DFW colours maybe ;) by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 8) Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 by KarrArt@aol.com 9) Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 by KarrArt@aol.com 11) Dakoplast 1/72 Sikorski SXVI on Ebay by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 12) Moving/interim e-mail address by mgoodwin@ricochet.net 13) Re: Resin help by Joey Valenciano 14) Re: Moving/interim e-mail address by KarrArt@aol.com 15) Re: Resin help by Joey Valenciano 16) Trent Tridmore's wwi pages (Nice pictures) by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 17) Re: Trent Tridmore's wwi pages (Nice pictures) by Ray_Boorman@telus.net 18) Re: Trent Tridmore's wwi pages (Nice pictures) by Ernest Thomas 19) RIP Charlie Brown by "Bob Pearson" 20) Re: RIP Charlie Brown by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: Charles Schulz by Zulis@aol.com 22) Re: Charles Schulz by smperry@mindspring.com 23) back from the show by "Peter Leonard" 24) Re: RIP Charlie Brown by "DAVID BURKE" 25) Re: Charles Schulz by "DAVID BURKE" 26) Re: Charles Schulz by "DAVID BURKE" 27) Charles Schulz by "Lee Mensinger" 28) Rumpler "Cross" on ebay by Zulis@aol.com 29) Re: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay by "Peter Leonard" 30) Re: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay by smperry@mindspring.com 31) Re: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 by KarrArt@aol.com 32) Re: Farman HF30 and Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter by KarrArt@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 15:25:04 PST From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Wire Message-ID: <20000212232504.2124.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: "Courtney Allen" > >I recently my "Small Parts" catalog and trying to figure out which wire to >order for rigging. It looks to me that its either Stainless Steel Type >304V >(.0005") or the Stainless Steel Type 304V ANNEALED (.0005"). The annealed >is on a 25' spool and the regular comes in 30" and 60" straight lengths. I >have no experience with using SS Wire for rigging and would like to take a >try. > >Courtney > Courtney: I use the 30" straight .005" diameter. No straightening, just cutting. I used it for my Ilya Mourmetz and Farman F-40bis. Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:14:19 -0500 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Cyg Will Be in the D.C. Area Message-ID: <38A5E94B.67BEA2E@bellatlantic.net> John; I would love to get together. I'm free any day but Tuesday is best for my wife. Call me when you get into McLean (I used to live in the slum in McLean) my home phone is (703) 450-6136. Weekdays I'm usually home by 7:30 or just leave a message. Alvie John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > Greetings to the Washington D.C. contingent of the list. I will be in > McLean, Va for a conference from Sunday, 2/13 until Wed. 2/16. Would you > like to get together? Sharon, Alvie? > > Regards, > Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:29:15 -0500 From: "Michael S. Alvarado" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Wire Message-ID: <38A5ECCA.F8F95088@bellatlantic.net> Courtney, I would go with the unannealed wire. Annealed wire kinks very easily. I used to use .008" dia stainless steel wire. When my supply ran out, I switched to .006" dia brass wire from Detail Associates (Available at model railroad shops or the Walthers Catalogue. Courtney Allen wrote: > OK Group > > I recently my "Small Parts" catalog and trying to figure out which wire to > order for rigging. It looks to me that its either Stainless Steel Type 304V > (.0005") or the Stainless Steel Type 304V ANNEALED (.0005"). The annealed > is on a 25' spool and the regular comes in 30" and 60" straight lengths. I > have no experience with using SS Wire for rigging and would like to take a > try. > > Courtney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:47:55 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Halb. Update Message-ID: <001401bf75b3$962d2500$b938183f@cyrixp166> I have received my metal proofs and they are good. Decals look good as well. I need to do the costing now. I think that by next weekend I will be able to accept orders. Passchendaele 1/48 Halberstadt D.III features: Injection Quality Polyurethane castings of: Fuselage (hollow -2) Turtle deck (1) Wings (4) Tail feathers (3) Engine halves (Argus -120) Wolff Prop Exhaust Spreader bar Chin fairing Nose bowl Wheels Cast Pewter Parts Cabanes Interplane struts main gear tail skid Spandau kit Photo-etch by special arrangement with Eduard Decals (ALPS) 1 full color 3 view profile for von Keudel, by Dan-San Abbott. Many apologies for the long delay, but I promise the wait will be well worth it. Regards, John Cyg. Passchendaele NU: Halb. D.II & D.V ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 20:21:40 -0500 From: skarver@banet.net To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: barely ot: Insignia Russian Civil War isse Message-ID: <38A60723.A6E127E8@banet.net> Last fall a kind ww1 list-er offered to provide info from the above-referenced publication. Naturally, I lost the e-mail. Please contact me again. TIA & regards, Stef ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:57:05 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Wire Message-ID: <200002130156.RAA02600@smtpout.telus.net> Courtney, I use Detail Associates brass wire as well, its available in both .006 and .008. This wire is available at most Model Railroad stores along with lots of other goodies and is reasonably priced. You have to factor this in if you are buying other wire by mail order btw. On 12 Feb 00, at 18:46, Michael S. Alvarado wrote: > Courtney, > > I would go with the unannealed wire. Annealed wire kinks very easily. > I used to use .008" dia stainless steel wire. When my supply ran > out, I switched to .006" dia brass wire from Detail Associates > (Available at model railroad shops or the Walthers Catalogue. > > Courtney Allen wrote: > > > OK Group > > > > I recently my "Small Parts" catalog and trying to figure out which > > wire to order for rigging. It looks to me that its either Stainless > > Steel Type 304V (.0005") or the Stainless Steel Type 304V ANNEALED > > (.0005"). The annealed is on a 25' spool and the regular comes in > > 30" and 60" straight lengths. I have no experience with using SS > > Wire for rigging and would like to take a try. > > > > Courtney > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:05:20 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: I'm back did I miss anything??? DFW colours maybe ;) Message-ID: <200002130205.SAA04974@smtpout.telus.net> Matt, Thanks for the info, the thing that keeps me wondering is the aircraft in the pictures don't look mottled. I am really wondering if there were a few lightly sprayed coats of various greens and mauve and this gave an uneven dirty green look. I am getting set up with an old test model to try this theory out. Since this aircrafts colours are so vague I figure Dicta Ira rules big time, that will be my excuse anyway ;) Ray On 12 Feb 00, at 11:26, Matthew Bittner wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:56:33 -0500 (EST), Ray_Boorman@telus.net > wrote: > > > So in my absence did anyone have a solution to Aviatik dirty > > mottled green for my Aviatik built DFW (oh well I can hope) > > I've checked three sources, the Datafile, OtF 2/3 and Windsock > 7/3. Unfortunately all are vague on the Aviatik mottled colors. > According to the Datafile: > > "The 'uniform dirty green colour' is an understandably > generalised description. A lot of the Aviatik-built DFW C.Vs seem to > have a mottled finish, with sprayed-on mottling of a second or third > colour over a basic finish. Judging from the description of 287/18 > above, perhaps this was a basic overall light green finish, with > mottling of dark green and mauve? Later, 1918-built Aviatik C.Vs had > 'lozenge' fabric covering too." > > Very vague, unfortunately. > > > Matt Bittner > http://www.geocities.com/~ipmsfortcrook > http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/misc/ww1fr.htm > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:12:45 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 Message-ID: <7b.1684459.25d77b2d@aol.com> In a message dated 2/11/00 10:17:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Good God man ! What monstrous cojones you have! Asking my wife to provide a $70 kit for Christmas would require admitting the actual cost of such things and *that* would be more threatening to my modelling career than the sudden bankruptcy of *all* model manufacturing companies. shudder...... Shane >> The models ARE iffier to wheedle than books..... One year the wife presented me with a big box full of Cross and Cockades....best model was an Aurora Gotha that she'd spotted at a collector's show and somehow managed to snag without me knowing, and she held it back till Christmas. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:12:46 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 Message-ID: <9b.167c73e.25d77b2e@aol.com> In a message dated 2/11/00 5:33:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, lyle.lamboley@juno.com writes: << And then after an hour of scrambling around on the floor with a flashlight, you actually find all of the parts that went in every direction. LL >> Sometimes it takes years for the particles to work themselves to the surface again. An off-topic J--88 had its rudder pedals flung across the room several years ago, and only recently did one of them turn up! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 22:12:45 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: two brains wasRe: Master Club 1/48 Sikorsky S-16 Message-ID: In a message dated 2/11/00 10:05:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << Oooh, him too. My Biff *was* going to have scratchbuilt wheels..... Shane >> The 0/400 finally cured my useless "purist"tendencies. The Mr.Profit side of my brain is always figuring that my time is worth more in the long run than an extra few dollars. I don't know what formulas he's using to arrive at his conclusions though. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:01:48 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Dakoplast 1/72 Sikorski SXVI on Ebay Message-ID: <200002130501.VAA23654@smtpout.telus.net> In case anyone is looking for this model theirs one on Ebay now for $9 or so. Better hurray though its got one hour to go. btw this isn't mine i just noticed it was all http://cgi.ebay.com/aw- cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=257678133 Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:14:12 -0800 From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Moving/interim e-mail address Message-ID: <38A6E664.74B5@ricochet.net> I'm finally escaping the wretched throngs and hideously inflated real estate values of the Bay Area for dull and dry (which suits me fine) but sunny (an understatement) and empty Riverside County. One of the only things I'll miss are the mega-shops. In between machines, I can be reached at michellegoodwin@yahoo.com. R. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:22:44 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Resin help Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000213142244.0138e810@philonline.com> > I tried Joey's box method and found it to be very successful on the 1:28 >Spad wings. The method I contributed, and which Steven used is quite successful. >I imagine 1:72 resin ones would heat way quicker. It's the evenness of the >heating that does the trick. right, slow heating from a hair drier will ensure that the heat reaches the core of the material. >With the big styrene slab, it soon got hot enough to relax and lay flat. I >then took it and taped it to the top of my glass display case till it cooled >completely. When I unwarp parts (in 1/48, usually slightly bowed wings), I don't wait long enough for the part to be hot/soft enough to lay flat from it's own weight. I wait for the part to be soft enough to sort of keep its shape when I flex out the warp. >I used a box made of heavy duty cardboard. About 8 x 12 x 3. I cut a hole >for D.VII's hair dryer nozzle in one of the 8 x 3 sides and an exit hole >kittycorner on the other 8 x 3 side. I went so far as to fold baffles out of >3x5 cards and tape them inside to break up any straight airflow. > >The box needs to be perfectly flat on the inside bottom. Cut out a single >piece od cardboard the correct size and lay it in there if the botton isn't >flat. > >I have a lid on top (the 8 x 12 side) and I frequently open it to peer at >the piece while it heats. Caution rulz here. > >Now, will resin relax and lay flat when heated like styrene? Will it retain >a new shape when cooled? I haven't a clue. I'm fixin to re-do the lower >Spad wing bevause there is still a little bow in it. I have a warped resin >fuselage piece. (Thick wall1/48 scale) that I will experiment on and see if >it works. I'll let you know how it did later on this evening. > >sp > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 01:20:37 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Moving/interim e-mail address Message-ID: In a message dated 2/12/00 9:21:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, mgoodwin@ricochet.net writes: << empty Riverside County. >> Hey-it's a BIG county! Plus, you mught be near to Chino and the March Air Force Museum......and that world reknown tourist mecca - Blythe! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:23:45 +0800 From: Joey Valenciano To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Resin help Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000213142345.0138a710@philonline.com> Hi Matt, >Does anybody have "Joey's drawings" for his "box"? What about >using hot water? I can I keep the wings straight and not worry >about ruining the wonderful "thinness"? The unwarping box I use is an old DML Spad box, a good enough size for most 1/48 wings. I cut three vent holes about 2x3cm on one end (of both box halves) and on the other end, a hole that will accomodate the hair dryer nozzle snugly. Put the part in and switch on the hair drier on the low setting (if you have a choice). Monitor heating rate by feeling the top of the box and checking the second hand of a clock. If you're working on a thin part and are afraid that the part might get too hot too fast, you can open up the vent side of the box in such a way as to have six vent hole instead of 3. What you want to aim for is to soften the plastic via INDIRECT heat from the hair dryer. Ideally, your wing isn't supposed to get a direct blast of hot air from the hair dryer. If it did, then heat distribution on the part would not be even, the area being hit by the air blast heating faster than the rest. You want the wing to be heated by the hot air circulating in the box, that way heat distribution is more even, the part heats up slower so the heat has a chance to reach the core of the plastic. Since the wing is only receiving indirect heat, it doesn't really matter how to position the wing in the box, but since your airflow enters from one end and exits the other, I would imagine that it would be a good idea to position the wing's span along this air flow. __________________________________________________ | | airflow | | >>>>>| >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> | >>>>> | _______________________________________ | |____|_______________________________________|_____| |<-----------span of wing ------------>| You ask if the wing might be "Supported somehow to promote better air flow and heat transfer?". I haven't tried this but I don't think it is necessary. The heat buildup is slow enough to allow the wing to heat evenly. Also, suspending the wing somehow, you might make the mistake of leaving it in the heat too long so as to allow it to sag when it softens too much. Lay the wing on the floor of the box, that'll be fine. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:23:14 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Trent Tridmore's wwi pages (Nice pictures) Message-ID: <200002130722.XAA00147@smtpout.telus.net> I dont know if you all have seen these, but I found them surfing the net. Very good photographs http://home.xnet.com/~tmblweed/WWI.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:29:20 -0800 From: Ray_Boorman@telus.net To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Trent Tridmore's wwi pages (Nice pictures) Message-ID: <200002130729.XAA01243@smtpout.telus.net> I didn't notice at first but a certain person by the name of Ernest has a hand in the photo's on this site ;) Ray > http://home.xnet.com/~tmblweed/WWI.html > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 1980 01:35:45 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Trent Tridmore's wwi pages (Nice pictures) Message-ID: <12DEE2D0.5AF317B4@bellsouth.net> Ray_Boorman@telus.net wrote: > I dont know if you all have seen these, but I found them surfing the > net. Very good photographs Been there, done that. And thanks, since I can take credit for some of those pics. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 06:03:12 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: RIP Charlie Brown Message-ID: <200002131409.GAA25842@mail.rapidnet.net> Charles Schulz died last night. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 1980 09:03:47 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: RIP Charlie Brown Message-ID: <12D36E53.7BD3A143@bellsouth.net> Bob Pearson wrote: > Charles Schulz died last night. :-( ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:42:34 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Charles Schulz Message-ID: <94.a86d7f.25d82aea@aol.com> Bob Pearson wrote: << Charles Schulz died last night. >> That is so sad, and more than a little unsettling. His last "Peanuts" runs today. He announced his retirement over a month ago, but I never imagined he had so little time left. Peanuts has been around since roughly when I was born - a rare thing - a cartoon that was a favorite of my generation AND my parents generation. I was getting used to the idea that this month the strip was going to fade away, but the passing of Schulz makes it feel more like it was yanked away. I am totally bummed out.... DZ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:24:20 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Charles Schulz Message-ID: <002a01bf763e$c85f4540$400d56d1@default> Rats! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:11:48 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: back from the show Message-ID: <20000213171148.406.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello chums, here I am back from what is billed as the first UK model show of the year, the millennium I suppose we should say, the West Yorkshire IPMS show in Huddersfield. I get lost making local journeys I've made a thousand times before, but once a year I find my way uneringly to the Annita Lonsborough sports centre. In a past life I must have been a Caribou and this my annual migration. Caught site of the DVII Anthology part two and was not greatly impressed. There are a few photos we haven't seen before and likwise colour schemes, but nothing which grabbed me by the curleys. Others may think differently. Bought a Gavia DII from listee Jon Sharp at Aces High. The phrase most often used in these parts when describing this kit is "early Eduard", personally I think it is better than that. Certainly it is much more buildable than the Eduad EIII or HB DI. The comment others have made regarding the fuselage stringer are spot on, though it won't take much to correct it, but does anyon agree that the centre section is wrong? The characteristic "shovel" section isn't there. Also got a bagged Aurora Gotha from the same source for £15:00 ($22?). It's a builder and I'm pleased to have it. John Adams seemed in good sorts and a great day out was had by all. A good start to the modeling year. Peter http://www.storks.cwc.net http://www.escadrille.mcmail.com PeterL@cwcom.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:50:13 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: RIP Charlie Brown Message-ID: <008601bf764c$3be1a960$3987aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Oh no.... -----Original Message----- From: Bob Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, February 13, 2000 8:08 AM Subject: RIP Charlie Brown >Charles Schulz died last night. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:00:35 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Charles Schulz Message-ID: <008701bf764c$3cb2b500$3987aec7@dora9sprynet.com> You know how sometimes it feels that there are certain immutable pillars that hold up your memory and your perception of life? It feels like somebody just took a sledgehammer and knocked one of 'em out. It sucks to be human today. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:07:41 -0600 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Charles Schulz Message-ID: <000601bf764d$3f7ed7e0$3987aec7@dora9sprynet.com> Tom Landry, Coach of the Dallas Cowboys died too. I say to Hell with all of this! Death is depleting too many of America's greatest heroes! I say we declare war on death as soon as possible! Sparky Schultz, Tom Landry, my God, no wonder the USA is turning into such a damnable slum with nobody to look up to anymore! Add Joe DiMaggio from last year, and well, the sky is just all that more gray today. Death can have disco - give us back our heroes. DB - sounding off on the subject again, but it's my first cup of the morning, and now I'm gonna pour some whiskey in it. And I'm gonna lower the flag to half-mast too - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:32:19 -0600 From: "Lee Mensinger" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu, "Lee Mensinger" Subject: Charles Schulz Message-ID: <38A6F8B3.9D3B022A@wireweb.net> So much saddness for a friend I never met. May he experience his greatest reward forever. No one could deserve it more for giving so much to so many. I hope he will never be forgotten by us mere mortals. Lee M. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:43:35 EST From: Zulis@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay Message-ID: For those who like to check these things out, there is a Cross Insignia cut from a Rumpler for sale on ebay. Photo shows the faint outline of the earlier version of the cross painted over. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=258016637 Enjoy, Dave Z ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 20:19:59 GMT From: "Peter Leonard" To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay Message-ID: <20000213201959.55095.qmail@hotmail.com> At least this one looks genuine, unlike the one that cleared $300 recently Peter L ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:42:10 -0500 From: smperry@mindspring.com To: Subject: Re: Rumpler "Cross" on ebay Message-ID: <001d01bf7662$ce057540$ad0556d1@default> Assuming this item to be genuine, look at the quality of the white paint. The earlier stuff is still there. the stuff put on in spring of 1918 has faded away with time. Looks like late war materials quality problems were showing. Makes you wonder how much this would affect after the war color research based on genuine fabric samples of late war planes? I imagine some of the pigments began deteriorating very rapidly. White sure seems to have. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:21:51 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Was Kit Prices...... Now DH5 Message-ID: <20.20aa58d.25d8887f@aol.com> In a message dated 2/11/00 11:04:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: << One last post on the DH5 anyone who is thinking of building one of these should go look at the profiles on Cam's AFC pages. >> Makes the ol' staggerwing look positively mouthwatering....and BTW, whenever I visit Cam's page, I come away knowing something I didn't know before- a great page. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:21:52 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: Re: Farman HF30 and Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter Message-ID: <77.1829e27.25d88880@aol.com> In a message dated 2/11/00 7:35:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, klumppio@frame.hut.fi writes: << And about the Keskinen et al FinnAF camo and markings book. It is considered here somewhat limbo. The authors could have made a vastly superior book if they just wanted. Now it seems they put whatever happened to laying on desk into the book. If one is going to make FinnAF Morane 406 or Fiat G.50 I suggest checking French references too for the former and for the latter type do remeber there was life before "Tavola 10". Kari >> What made the book so attractive here in the US was that it gathered a lot of material together in one place, as a kind of a one-stop jumping-off cliff for further study, and at a good price. It DOES need to be augmented with other sources, though. RK ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 2140 **********************